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This is real. This is a robbery.
Step away from your cages.
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[man 1] He was the most prolific
bank robber in the Pacific Northwest.
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[woman 1] He keeps changing his disguises.
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{\an8}He seems like he's in a movie,
robbing bank after bank.
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{\an8}[man 2] Three or four banks,
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one right after the other
in the same evening.
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[woman 2] In the FBI,
we like to give nicknames to bank robbers.
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His moniker was "Hollywood."
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{\an8}Pretty fitting,
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{\an8}especially when we learned
that he really was inspired
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by Bodhi in Point Break.
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Why be a servant to the law
when you can be its master?
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{\an8}You wanna open the vault,
or do you want me to do it?
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{\an8}[woman 2] He'd been successful
for four years.
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{\an8}That's why he became
our number one priority.
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{\an8}He was not a stupid bank robber.
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[man 3] Hollywood was probably
one of the most dangerous people
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that I went up against,
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because he was a true professional.
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{\an8}[man 2] He wanted
to decimate the city of Seattle,
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{\an8}and it was not only doable,
it was winnable.
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They knew that this man
got millions over the years.
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They knew that he humiliated them.
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{\an8}[man 1] When he walked
into the Lake City branch to rob us,
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{\an8}he walked right past his wanted poster.
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{\an8}Don't panic. This is a robbery.
Step away from your counter.
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[reporter 1] What happened here
reads straight from a movie script.
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[reporter 2] He wears heavy makeup, a wig...
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[reporter 3] His co-star
is this 9 mm. handgun.
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{\an8}[reporter 4] The most prolific bank robber
in the country.
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{\an8}He's number one
on the FBI's Most Wanted List.
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[man 4] They could not figure out
who this guy was,
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and where he was gonna hit next.
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[man 5] Was this guy some kind of a ghost?
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How does he just slip away like that?
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[rock music intensifies]
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[music fades]
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[suspenseful music playing]
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{\an8}Hollywood was a unique case
for us in Seattle.
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We knew from evidence
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that he was familiar
with security practices.
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He knew how long he had
before he had to get out of there.
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He was a smart bank robber.
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He became our number one priority
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after I became
the supervisor of our task force.
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[intriguing music playing]
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Shawn Johnson was the FBI agent
that was the lead on the case.
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He was like an encyclopedia on Hollywood.
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He's number one
as far as, uh, the amount of money
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that any bank robber has taken.
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Hollywood was a professional bank robber.
He worked at it. He perfected his craft.
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I think he was enjoying what he did.
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I think money was part of it,
but at that point in time,
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it was just the, uh, adrenaline rush,
the challenge.
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[Ellen] When I assigned Mike to head up
the Seattle Police response to it,
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I knew that it would be
an electric relationship.
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[man 3] Shawn and I were night and day,
oil and water, two different styles.
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{\an8}My partner at the time summed it up.
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{\an8}"Shawn Johnson was the fire,
and Mike Magan was the can of gasoline."
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I heard one description
that I'm not sure if I agree with,
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but I was the brains and he was the brawn.
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Don't agree with that 100%,
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but the brain part
I agree with for myself.
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[Mike] Ellen Glasser was
a very talented supervisor
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who believed in the "KISS" method:
Keep It Simple, Stupid.
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[Ellen] As one of the first women agents
in the FBI,
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to be able to be supervising
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this violent crime squad
and the task force
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was such an awesome thing for me.
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Not only was I in this badass job,
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I also was blessed
to have four young children,
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and so sometimes I feel like
I was two different people.
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A lot of the guys called me Agent Mom.
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[intriguing music playing]
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[man 4] In the '90s,
Seattle was a city in major transition.
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[intriguing music continues]
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You went from a two company town,
Weyerhaeuser and Boeing,
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{\an8}to then you add Microsoft,
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{\an8}and then all the companies
that came around Microsoft.
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Bezos from Amazon.
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Starbucks was growing like gangbusters.
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There was a flood of money
that came into Seattle.
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It was amazing
how many banks were popping up.
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I didn't put two and two together
at the time
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that all the cash coming in
from the tech boom was fueling this,
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but you could find a bank
in the grocery store.
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You could find a bank
just about every corner.
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[reporter] In Washington state,
the number of bank robberies is exploding.
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I told my wife,
"Don't go into a bank in Seattle."
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Chances are it'll get robbed."
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[reporter 1] Three men ran
into the US Branch Bank in Woodinville
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with a shotgun...
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[reporter 2] A man enters the bank,
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and usually passes a note
to the teller demanding money.
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[David] There were
a lot of bank robberies.
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I don't know that we did one every night,
but we did a lot of them.
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{\an8}Let's go to Deborah Horne,
who's at the scene with the latest.
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{\an8}That's right, David.
Just a very few moments ago...
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{\an8}[woman 1] Seattle was an exciting place.
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We were sort of
coming into our own as a city,
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certainly in terms of being
well-known around the country.
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We had Nirvana, so you have grunge.
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[David] Grunge, to me,
to a certain extent,
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was that frustration
that a lot of people were feeling
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about changes that were coming
to their communities.
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[man 6] The whole grunge thing,
it was so anti-corporate
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and anti-brands
and big-name and fame was all... [scoffs]
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Nobody cared.
Nobody wanted any of that shit.
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People were literally anti-establishment
for all the right reasons.
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They hated all the oppression,
they hated the colonialism,
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they hated the attack
on human rights and the environment.
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And ripping off banks,
if they're getting away with it?
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People love that.
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[reporter] He's robbed 14 banks in Seattle
since, uh, June of 1992.
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Wow! He's pretty clever. [chuckles]
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Darn clever.
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It's the ultimate F-you to the man.
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- [woman] It's Mr. Hollywood.
- [reporter] Hollywood, right.
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We knew that there was a guy
with a bunch of disguises
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who was robbing banks,
not hurting anybody.
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No shots were fired.
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Sounds very bold. [chuckles]
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There may have been some rooting for him,
and people talk about Robin Hood...
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{\an8}[Jimmy] The mystique of the bank robber
goes back to the Robin Hood thing.
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{\an8}You steal from the rich
and give to the poor.
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Duh. How noble is that?
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[Ellen] He was kind of legendary
in terms of bank robbers.
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[Mike] But in terms of who Hollywood was,
we couldn't have been more wrong.
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[birds chirping]
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Hey, Bubba!
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[man 7] Wow, a man with his shirt off.
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Come on back!
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[man 7] Let's go, boys. Come on.
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- You still filming?
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You gotta hold the camera steady.
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[man 7] That's a little easier
said than done, man.
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As you can see, we're deep in the forest.
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And there's not a whole lot of light.
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[pensive music playing]
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- Okay, Tarzan. What do you want to do?
- Go up top.
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- [man 7] Go up top?
- Yeah.
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[man 7] We're going
into Scurlock's domain.
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What's the elevation here, mate?
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- [Scurlock] 75 feet.
- [man 7] 75 feet above what?
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[Scurlock] The floor of the cedars.
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Down there.
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[man 7] Tell us the story, mate.
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How long did it take you?
What's the deal here?
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Took me about two weeks
to build this whole thing.
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- [man 7] Two weeks to build this.
- Six stories.
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Fifty-eight tons of wood.
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Did a little work.
Kind of ate breakfast before I did it.
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[man 7 laughs] Okay.
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Okay, no, it really took maybe...
I don't know.
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- Three or four months?
- [man 7] Three or four months.
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[tranquil music playing]
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[woman 3] The Treehouse
was a really amazing, amazing place.
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A place you could go
to get out of the norm of society.
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[woman 4] The first time I went
to the Treehouse, Scott answered the door.
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He was stripped naked
except his tool belt.
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I'd never had anybody
answer the door quite like that,
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but I pretended
that it was an everyday occurrence.
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You'd see furniture,
like you would in a normal house,
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and you'd walk across the deck,
and here was a toilet, here was a shower.
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It was like a real bathroom,
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except you had
a wonderful outdoor experience.
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[Elizabeth] It was built around
seven trees and it was really well-made.
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It was like cedar boards
and picture windows.
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It was an extravagant tree house.
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There was a huge oven range,
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and we carried
this oven range up the stairs,
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70 feet to the first floor.
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[man 2] My brother
was good friends with Scott,
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{\an8}and he said he'd hire me
to come out and build his house.
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{\an8}And I said, "Yeah, why not?"
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We did some
of the most insane construction.
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We would be hanging
from ropes from our ankles
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to be able to nail it
and bolt it in place. And...
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It was insanely dangerous.
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All of it was dangerous,
but we didn't care.
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{\an8}[gentle music playing]
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{\an8}The Treehouse was Scott's
inner personality that came to life.
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{\an8}He was safe.
It was his harbor. It was his anchor.
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{\an8}He was free from it all.
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{\an8}[Scott] I'm sitting at my desk,
40 feet in the trees.
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The deck extends off the rim
like a ballerina's tutu in full twirl.
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It's wide enough in places
to bake in the sun's rays,
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and maybe catch a wink of sleep
if you're not scared of rolling off.
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[man 7] What's going on?
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[Scott] I like just sitting on the edge,
gazing across the trees at Mount Rainier.
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[man 7] Talk to us.
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[Scott] I get a feeling
of subtle exhilaration.
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I want a lot out of this life.
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I think it will be a long search
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before I find the place
where God wants me.
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{\an8}My mind is like an undisciplined child
that has gone wild.
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{\an8}I'll just have to catch it.
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{\an8}Everybody loved Scott.
Everybody loved the Treehouse.
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The two were connected.
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We clicked right away
when we first met in school
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and we just both had a lot of energy,
wild and free.
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We'd like to drink beer.
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Mark Biggins is an interesting character.
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He and Scott
went to Evergreen College together.
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[Elizabeth] People that came to Evergreen
were in some ways misfits.
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Me included.
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People are pretty progressive.
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It wasn't like people taking crazy drugs
and drinking and being crazy in that way.
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It was very earthy.
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Playing drums and taking mushrooms
and sitting around fires.
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It was also a very tight community.
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[Mark] Fate just threw us together.
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Scott was this wild and free guy.
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Even more so
than the other Evergreen students
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who were considered wild and free.
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Mark is just a really tender, gentle soul,
you know?
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He played guitar and wrote poetry.
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But he was having a really hard time.
He was struggling.
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So I think Scotty really helped him out.
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[Mark] I called him on the phone,
and I said, "Man, my marriage is over."
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"I don't know what I'm gonna do,
where I'm gonna go."
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And he says, "Well, get on up here!
Move in with me."
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[Steve] Mark Biggins was a big, gruff man.
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He smoked Chesterfield straights.
He probably did a pack or two packs a day.
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He would knock bourbons down
like it was no big deal.
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That was the bond between him and Scott.
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Biggins could drink Scott to hell.
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[Mark] I lived at the Treehouse
for many years. So did my daughter.
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And perfect strangers
would come knocking on the door
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{\an8}and they'd say, uh,
234
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{\an8}"Oh, we heard there's this
really cool tree house on this property."
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{\an8}Or "Can we go see it?"
And we'd have to turn them away.
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I mean, it got so bad we actually built
a gate across the driveway.
237
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And the Treehouse
was not built by Scott alone,
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even though
it's been quoted in many places,
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but, uh, dozens of people
worked on that place.
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[woman 5] My brother Scott
was never gonna be controlled
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and he wanted to be free.
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He was an adrenaline junkie.
He loved doing daring things.
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We're sitting at 60 feet up in the air
at six stories and
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this is the first time
I've ever done this.
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[laughter]
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[Mark] So he's gonna do approximately
a 100-foot climb upside down.
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Anytime go, Rambo, Tarzan.
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[Scott] Woo!
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- Whoa!
- [Mark] Oh! [laughs]
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He just kept wanting to go
higher and higher and higher
251
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and he needed more and more and more.
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[Mark] Right now,
if he slipped he's gonna fall
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60 feet to the ground.
254
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[Scott] This is hard!
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[Mark] I told you.
This is a death act, my friend.
256
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[Suzanne] He was, uh, an adventurer.
257
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He loved the excitement of life,
and wanted new things and new experiences.
258
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But he made certain pivotal choices
259
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that led him into directions
he couldn't turn around and back out of.
260
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[intriguing music playing]
261
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[Scott] In my studies,
I've gotten on the wrong track,
262
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delving into areas
not good for my spiritual growth.
263
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A voice speaks loud and clear.
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"Remember what you are here for."
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I understand, but do not change course.
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He was always in pursuit
of something of his own world.
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[Mark] When I first met him,
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he was aspiring
to get a degree in medicine,
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but that fell by the wayside
once he worked in the chemistry lab
270
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and he saw an opportunity
to make a lot of money.
271
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Scott was the first person in my life
I had ever known to produce crystal meth.
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He would, at nighttime,
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go up through the ceilings
and crawl into the laboratory.
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Scotty's professors discovered him.
They kicked him off the campus.
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Said, "Don't you ever, ever, ever, ever
show your face here again."
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He was smart enough to have been a doctor.
277
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He was one course short
of graduating in chemistry and biology.
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He would have been pre-med.
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But he didn't wanna be.
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That was not who he was and he knew that.
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And then he just continued
right on down that road.
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[Steve] This grew and grew and grew
and he became so prolific,
283
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and his product was so absolutely pure.
284
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If you were ever to try his stuff,
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I'm telling you,
it was something unbelievable.
286
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He did have a reputation for producing
some of the finest substance, uh, around.
287
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I never heard anybody say... say
that somebody else's meth was better.
288
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Scott's use of crystal meth
was very moderate and controlled.
289
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He just enjoyed it
and it inspired him for creativity.
290
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[Steve] As time went on, he bought
a piece of property with a barn on it.
291
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And so I went out there
to renovate the barn.
292
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In the loft of the barn,
he had his whole laboratory set up.
293
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Captain Pat was the front man.
He was the finance man.
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The only times they met
were in the forest,
295
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transferring product and money.
296
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When Scott would bring
180 lb. to Captain Pat,
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he would give him $2 million.
298
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[Mark] Pat was the one
who introduced Scott to the meth world.
299
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The Captain, that was Pat's nickname.
300
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He'd take it down to Barstow
and sell it to the Hells Angels.
301
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And then Scott
would come back to the Treehouse
302
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with these boxes full of $20 bills.
303
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Scott and I would sit and count it out.
We'd be up all night counting money.
304
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But this got dangerous.
I mean, really dangerous.
305
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Captain Pat was murdered
by some person who was trying to rob him
306
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and he was murdered in his sleep.
307
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Scott was devastated when he heard.
308
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But that's what people do in that world,
and he didn't want to be any part of it.
309
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And that's when he quit.
310
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[Alban] Crystal meth
was his income, period.
311
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And so when he quit distributing,
he needed a new way to make money.
312
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{\an8}[Steve] At that time in the '90s,
313
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{\an8}Point Break was one
of the big bank robbery movies.
314
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[Bodhi] Little hand says
it's time to rock and roll.
315
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[Steve] Scott would watch films and see
different things to get ideas from.
316
00:18:01,747 --> 00:18:03,916
[Jimmy] Scott was down on banks
and insurance companies.
317
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It feels like everyone at the time was.
318
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[Bodhi] On the floor, asshole.
319
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The money's insured,
so it's not worth dying for.
320
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He was always wanting
to find a way to beat the system.
321
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- He's a real searcher.
- What's he searching for?
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[woman] The ride. The ultimate ride.
323
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[Steve] What he liked about Point Break
was the individualism of Bodhi
324
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and his fearlessness toward life,
325
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whether it was robbing banks
or whether it was surfing on wild waves.
326
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And so when he got
out of the drug business,
327
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that's when he said,
"I'm gonna become a bank robber."
328
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[Bodhi] Thank you very much,
ladies and gentlemen,
329
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and please don't forget to vote!
330
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[tense music playing]
331
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{\an8}[Mark] The first bank we robbed,
332
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{\an8}we were just talking about it,
kicking the idea around.
333
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{\an8}How would we do it?
Could you do this and get away with it?
334
00:18:56,426 --> 00:18:58,303
Scott told Mark before the robbery,
335
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"Do not say anything.
Just come in and keep people orderly."
336
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"Okay, okay."
He called him Boss. "Okay, boss."
337
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{\an8}[Mark] A friend of mine dropped us off
a block away from the bank,
338
00:19:07,146 --> 00:19:11,191
{\an8}and she was supposed to meet us
at this designated spot.
339
00:19:13,986 --> 00:19:18,157
{\an8}Our plan was to wait
for a bank customer to arrive,
340
00:19:18,157 --> 00:19:19,950
{\an8}then use his car as a getaway car.
341
00:19:22,077 --> 00:19:24,872
{\an8}[Steve] Biggins puts
his Ronald Reagan mask down.
342
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Rock and roll!
343
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{\an8}[Mark] Scott went in first.
He was gonna announce the robbery
344
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{\an8}and then I would come in
and make sure that nobody left.
345
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{\an8}I was so freaked out.
346
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{\an8}Like, "I can't believe
this is actually happening
347
00:19:42,806 --> 00:19:44,391
{\an8}and I'm actually doing this."
348
00:19:45,267 --> 00:19:46,935
{\an8}[Steve] Biggins has his gun in his hand
349
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and he says,
"Every motherfucker on the ground!"
350
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Scott turns around and says,
"Everybody stand up! Stand up!" [laughs]
351
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Because he doesn't want anybody walking by
to see people on the ground.
352
00:19:58,655 --> 00:20:00,657
{\an8}[Mark] I think Scott ordered
everybody on the ground.
353
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{\an8}I think everybody was down
when I walked into the bank.
354
00:20:05,829 --> 00:20:08,999
{\an8}If you've ever been in a car
that you've lost control,
355
00:20:08,999 --> 00:20:10,918
{\an8}and it, you know, things slow down,
356
00:20:11,627 --> 00:20:13,462
{\an8}that's what happened to me in the bank.
357
00:20:13,462 --> 00:20:15,047
{\an8}Everything was in slow motion.
358
00:20:16,006 --> 00:20:17,549
{\an8}Finally, it was time to leave,
359
00:20:17,549 --> 00:20:19,968
{\an8}and Scott goes,
"Mark, did you get the keys?"
360
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{\an8}He actually used my name.
361
00:20:23,972 --> 00:20:28,060
{\an8}I bent down and I said,
"Sir, can I have your car keys?"
362
00:20:28,060 --> 00:20:31,563
{\an8}And the poor guy,
he was really frightened.
363
00:20:32,397 --> 00:20:36,360
{\an8}It's a brand-new car
and I couldn't hear that it had started.
364
00:20:37,402 --> 00:20:38,362
{\an8}[engine starts]
365
00:20:41,114 --> 00:20:43,575
{\an8}And as I was doing that,
this other car pulls in.
366
00:20:47,287 --> 00:20:49,748
{\an8}Finally Scott goes,
"I think the car's started."
367
00:20:49,748 --> 00:20:51,750
{\an8}"Put it in reverse.
Let's get out of here."
368
00:20:52,251 --> 00:20:54,253
{\an8}We started driving through suburbia.
369
00:20:55,254 --> 00:20:59,549
{\an8}We get out at this designated spot
and there's no van.
370
00:20:59,549 --> 00:21:03,095
{\an8}My friend panicked and went to point B.
We had a backup.
371
00:21:06,098 --> 00:21:09,226
{\an8}And we end up
running across this golf course.
372
00:21:11,186 --> 00:21:13,730
{\an8}We could hear police cars coming.
There are sirens.
373
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{\an8}And there's my friend,
parked where she's supposed to be.
374
00:21:17,526 --> 00:21:19,611
{\an8}[sirens wail]
375
00:21:20,821 --> 00:21:22,739
That's the way it was.
It was a comedy of errors.
376
00:21:22,739 --> 00:21:24,992
I don't know how they didn't get caught,
but they didn't.
377
00:21:24,992 --> 00:21:26,410
{\an8}[Mark] And then I started thinking
378
00:21:26,410 --> 00:21:29,788
{\an8}about all the possible clues
we might have left behind.
379
00:21:29,788 --> 00:21:31,290
{\an8}We used Scott's van.
380
00:21:31,290 --> 00:21:33,625
{\an8}If anybody took down the license plate,
381
00:21:33,625 --> 00:21:36,795
{\an8}I thought, "Well,
they're gonna show up any minute."
382
00:21:36,795 --> 00:21:38,672
{\an8}At one point, I sat up and said,
383
00:21:38,672 --> 00:21:41,091
{\an8}"I am never doing that again."
384
00:21:41,591 --> 00:21:46,972
{\an8}Scott goes, "Are you sure? Let's go
do another one! Right now!" [laughs]
385
00:21:48,056 --> 00:21:51,935
{\an8}[Steve] After the robbery, Biggins got
real scared and drove off to Montana.
386
00:21:55,022 --> 00:21:58,775
{\an8}But all of the failures
inspired Scott to go deeper into it.
387
00:22:00,652 --> 00:22:03,322
{\an8}He realized
he could handle the banks himself
388
00:22:03,322 --> 00:22:05,741
{\an8}as long as
everything outside was controlled.
389
00:22:06,241 --> 00:22:07,659
{\an8}And that's why he came for me.
390
00:22:08,785 --> 00:22:10,912
He was very scientific, analytical.
391
00:22:11,580 --> 00:22:14,416
I was more improvising, artistic.
392
00:22:15,125 --> 00:22:19,254
I had worked in sculpture
throughout Europe, in Germany and Norway.
393
00:22:21,214 --> 00:22:23,759
I didn't care about the banks themselves.
It didn't matter.
394
00:22:23,759 --> 00:22:24,968
"Great. Take 'em down."
395
00:22:24,968 --> 00:22:27,095
"Take every last penny
they have in the bank."
396
00:22:27,095 --> 00:22:29,181
"That's no problem for me."
397
00:22:29,181 --> 00:22:34,394
But I couldn't imagine doing it.
I just thought, "This is... This is insane."
398
00:22:35,187 --> 00:22:38,148
But it's Scott and he's convincing.
399
00:22:38,648 --> 00:22:42,402
He said, "Man, this is the easiest thing.
It's like taking candy from kids."
400
00:22:42,986 --> 00:22:44,988
"There's millions to be made in this."
401
00:22:47,783 --> 00:22:49,159
But, as we always said,
402
00:22:49,159 --> 00:22:51,953
there is no school of training
for bank robbers.
403
00:22:53,497 --> 00:22:54,956
Doing what Scott and I did
404
00:22:54,956 --> 00:22:57,417
is the most creative thing
I've ever done in my life.
405
00:22:57,417 --> 00:22:59,002
Much more than the art world.
406
00:23:01,213 --> 00:23:04,883
Finding the perfect bank
was a moment of exhilaration.
407
00:23:05,384 --> 00:23:10,138
{\an8}It's like finding a piece of marble
that is perfect for some image
408
00:23:10,138 --> 00:23:11,848
{\an8}that I have that I want to sculpt.
409
00:23:12,724 --> 00:23:15,894
I would sit on the street,
close enough that I could observe it.
410
00:23:16,478 --> 00:23:19,689
I'd write down
the time of arrival of armored cars.
411
00:23:20,399 --> 00:23:22,609
The deliveries
were an important time of day
412
00:23:22,609 --> 00:23:24,903
because that's when you've got
the most money in the bank.
413
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,533
If it was summer,
I would have my windows down
414
00:23:29,533 --> 00:23:31,868
and I'd have Bach or jazz going on.
415
00:23:34,413 --> 00:23:37,290
{\an8}I'd be on the scanner all day,
listening to the police calls.
416
00:23:39,167 --> 00:23:40,085
{\an8}[police radio chatter]
417
00:23:40,085 --> 00:23:43,088
{\an8}[Steve] And I would watch
the patrols in that bank area
418
00:23:43,088 --> 00:23:46,341
to know when they'd come.
I would log down the times.
419
00:23:48,301 --> 00:23:49,803
A number of the banks we did,
420
00:23:49,803 --> 00:23:52,806
there was a very consistent patrol route
421
00:23:52,806 --> 00:23:55,725
that the cops took
at certain times of the day.
422
00:23:57,018 --> 00:23:57,936
We learned these routes
423
00:23:57,936 --> 00:24:00,605
so that five minutes
after the cops left the area,
424
00:24:00,605 --> 00:24:02,399
we knew it was time to hit the banks.
425
00:24:04,651 --> 00:24:07,654
I spent months driving around the streets
doing surveillance.
426
00:24:13,743 --> 00:24:17,414
You can't get a jump on a bank
going in with some stupid mask on.
427
00:24:17,414 --> 00:24:18,331
It's ridiculous.
428
00:24:19,458 --> 00:24:23,003
{\an8}So I would prepare these prosthetics,
like they do in Hollywood.
429
00:24:23,003 --> 00:24:25,088
{\an8}["Goodbye Horses" by Q Lazzarus playing]
430
00:24:28,008 --> 00:24:32,929
{\an8}What we wanted were just components,
like a nose, a chin, cheeks.
431
00:24:33,597 --> 00:24:35,390
["Goodbye Horses" continues]
432
00:24:37,976 --> 00:24:39,769
He wore D.A.R.E. caps for two reasons.
433
00:24:39,769 --> 00:24:41,354
The first thing people think of
434
00:24:41,354 --> 00:24:43,857
is that he's probably a cop
who wears a D.A.R.E. hat,
435
00:24:44,357 --> 00:24:45,984
and also to smite the police.
436
00:24:45,984 --> 00:24:49,029
'Cause it's like, "Here I am."
You know what I mean? "Dare me."
437
00:24:49,029 --> 00:24:52,991
♪ I see my hopes and dreams
lying on the ground... ♪
438
00:24:52,991 --> 00:24:55,952
[Steve] When I first saw him,
he came back from the woods
439
00:24:55,952 --> 00:24:57,746
and I just stood there frozen.
440
00:24:57,746 --> 00:25:02,459
I go, "Oh my God Almighty.
What in the fuck is this?"
441
00:25:03,668 --> 00:25:07,297
I could look at it and there'd be no way
you'd ever think this was Scott Scurlock.
442
00:25:07,297 --> 00:25:08,632
♪ Goodbye horses... ♪
443
00:25:08,632 --> 00:25:11,718
[Scott] I feel transformed
in an eerie, magical way.
444
00:25:11,718 --> 00:25:13,094
♪ I'm flying over... ♪
445
00:25:13,094 --> 00:25:15,222
[Scott] I'm changing rapidly
in this stage of my life.
446
00:25:15,222 --> 00:25:17,557
♪ Goodbye horses... ♪
447
00:25:17,557 --> 00:25:19,434
[Scott] I feel like a different person.
448
00:25:19,434 --> 00:25:22,521
♪ I'm flying, flying, flying ♪
449
00:25:23,230 --> 00:25:25,232
{\an8}[tense music playing]
450
00:25:30,654 --> 00:25:33,073
[Steve] The very first bank robbery
that I did
451
00:25:33,073 --> 00:25:35,909
was the same bank
that he did with Mark six weeks earlier.
452
00:25:37,869 --> 00:25:40,205
The important thing in taking down a bank
453
00:25:40,205 --> 00:25:44,417
is that initial 15 seconds
when nobody thinks anything's happening.
454
00:25:46,628 --> 00:25:49,381
And he looked like a person
that might have had a skin ailment.
455
00:25:50,340 --> 00:25:52,884
So people would avoid looking at him.
456
00:25:55,470 --> 00:25:56,596
[teller] How can I help you?
457
00:25:56,596 --> 00:25:58,598
This is a robbery. Nobody move.
458
00:25:59,099 --> 00:26:01,393
[Steve] He would
pull the gun out casually.
459
00:26:03,270 --> 00:26:06,356
Nobody in their right mind
would ever say no to this man.
460
00:26:07,148 --> 00:26:09,901
You two! Money in the bag.
Everyone stay calm.
461
00:26:09,901 --> 00:26:11,611
[police radio chattering]
462
00:26:11,611 --> 00:26:15,365
[Steve] I was sitting with the scanner
and the radio, and that was it.
463
00:26:15,365 --> 00:26:19,703
There was never any risk on my part
because I had my own alibi.
464
00:26:19,703 --> 00:26:23,039
I had my own reason for being there,
and I would never be caught,
465
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:25,500
unless of course
I had to call him out of the bank.
466
00:26:25,500 --> 00:26:27,127
And the beauty of all of this
467
00:26:27,127 --> 00:26:31,214
was creating and developing
one of these robberies
468
00:26:31,214 --> 00:26:35,010
so that everything
would work flawlessly, safely,
469
00:26:35,010 --> 00:26:38,346
and that the actual outcome was
what we wanted, which was the money.
470
00:26:39,931 --> 00:26:41,391
We didn't talk the whole way.
471
00:26:43,018 --> 00:26:45,395
When we got to the Treehouse
and began counting the money,
472
00:26:46,521 --> 00:26:48,857
it was just five or ten thousand dollars.
473
00:26:49,774 --> 00:26:51,484
I go, "Man. This is ridiculous."
474
00:26:51,484 --> 00:26:54,696
"Who wants to go to prison
for this little bitty kibbles and bits?"
475
00:26:55,196 --> 00:26:57,198
[tense music playing]
476
00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:01,369
[Mike] In the early 1990s,
I arrested my first bank robber,
477
00:27:01,369 --> 00:27:04,831
{\an8}and I thought, "Shit,
this is like shooting fish in a pond."
478
00:27:04,831 --> 00:27:07,542
{\an8}I don't mean to say it
in a braggadocios manner,
479
00:27:07,542 --> 00:27:10,670
but within a period of five or six months,
480
00:27:10,670 --> 00:27:14,799
I had cleared close to 80 cases,
and it became very addictive.
481
00:27:15,884 --> 00:27:20,263
I was subsequently assigned
to the FBI's violent crime task force.
482
00:27:21,056 --> 00:27:22,515
Hollywood flew under the radar
483
00:27:22,515 --> 00:27:25,310
for the first couple of robberies
because of the low take.
484
00:27:25,310 --> 00:27:27,937
When a suspect gets on top of the counter
and dances around
485
00:27:27,937 --> 00:27:29,939
and tries to get command and control,
486
00:27:29,939 --> 00:27:33,151
and you have to carjack
an old man for his Cadillac,
487
00:27:33,151 --> 00:27:35,570
it showed that these guys
were bumbling idiots.
488
00:27:35,570 --> 00:27:39,866
They probably started to ask themselves,
"Hey, what are we doing wrong here?"
489
00:27:41,201 --> 00:27:46,081
{\an8}[Steve] I said, "Scott, I'm not gonna
do this for 10, 15, 20 thousand dollars."
490
00:27:46,081 --> 00:27:47,290
"It's stupid."
491
00:27:47,290 --> 00:27:50,168
"We either do this right,
and we either go for the vault,
492
00:27:50,168 --> 00:27:51,378
or I don't do it anymore."
493
00:27:51,378 --> 00:27:53,296
"I don't wanna be messed up
in this nonsense."
494
00:27:53,963 --> 00:27:56,800
He goes, "We can't do the vault
'cause I don't have enough information."
495
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,010
- So he hired Mustang.
- [telephone rings]
496
00:27:59,886 --> 00:28:04,391
Mustang was a special young woman.
I've never quite met a woman like her.
497
00:28:04,391 --> 00:28:05,767
[sultry music playing]
498
00:28:07,102 --> 00:28:10,480
She was hired
to work in the Seafirst Bank as a teller.
499
00:28:11,439 --> 00:28:14,609
She got the manuals
and she got all of the bank protocol
500
00:28:14,609 --> 00:28:18,697
for teller stations, for the vaults,
the armored car deliveries.
501
00:28:20,490 --> 00:28:23,243
Once we had
all the inside information from Mustang,
502
00:28:23,243 --> 00:28:25,245
we knew we could do what we needed to do.
503
00:28:25,245 --> 00:28:27,330
{\an8}[funky music playing]
504
00:28:37,090 --> 00:28:39,259
[Steve] We learned from the protocol
what to say.
505
00:28:40,844 --> 00:28:43,096
This is real. This is a robbery.
506
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,474
[Steve] There's certain terminology
you use to the bankers,
507
00:28:46,474 --> 00:28:50,061
and when they hear that terminology,
they know you know what's going on.
508
00:28:51,604 --> 00:28:52,814
Who's the vault teller?
509
00:28:53,690 --> 00:28:54,607
[woman] That's me.
510
00:28:56,484 --> 00:28:58,278
[Steve] This was the phenomenon of Scott.
511
00:28:58,903 --> 00:29:00,613
He could control the lobby
512
00:29:00,613 --> 00:29:03,366
and still deal with the vault
at the same time.
513
00:29:03,366 --> 00:29:05,452
[tense music playing]
514
00:29:08,288 --> 00:29:09,122
[Scott] Quickly.
515
00:29:10,540 --> 00:29:12,542
[tense music continues]
516
00:29:13,752 --> 00:29:15,462
[Steve] He wants them to be calm.
517
00:29:15,462 --> 00:29:17,589
"Go over there. Just open the vault."
518
00:29:17,589 --> 00:29:20,425
"There's no problem.
Don't worry. Everything will be fine."
519
00:29:20,425 --> 00:29:22,177
"Just let me get in and get out."
520
00:29:23,136 --> 00:29:25,430
[tense music continues]
521
00:29:33,605 --> 00:29:36,941
[Steve] It's like he's going
into this catacomb of fantasy.
522
00:29:36,941 --> 00:29:39,027
[tense music continues]
523
00:29:48,328 --> 00:29:49,370
Do you have another bag?
524
00:29:49,370 --> 00:29:50,580
[police radio chatter]
525
00:29:53,124 --> 00:29:55,710
[Scott] Everyone on the floor. Let's go!
526
00:29:56,544 --> 00:29:58,546
[tense music continues]
527
00:30:00,381 --> 00:30:03,676
[Steve] When we got home,
we drove into the back of the studio.
528
00:30:03,676 --> 00:30:06,846
I said, "How'd you do?" And he says,
"Oh, man, it wasn't... Not good."
529
00:30:06,846 --> 00:30:09,432
"It was another bad one."
I go, "Oh, fuck me, man."
530
00:30:09,432 --> 00:30:10,767
"What, are you kidding me?"
531
00:30:10,767 --> 00:30:12,936
And we get in
and he dumps out this big bag.
532
00:30:12,936 --> 00:30:14,562
And it's just like... And I go, "Oh, man."
533
00:30:14,562 --> 00:30:16,648
[tense music continues]
534
00:30:18,566 --> 00:30:21,694
That was the biggest haul.
It was the game changer.
535
00:30:22,695 --> 00:30:24,781
Not only for us, but for the FBI.
536
00:30:27,826 --> 00:30:28,785
[music fades]
537
00:30:29,577 --> 00:30:31,454
I began with the FBI in 1987.
538
00:30:32,038 --> 00:30:34,290
By the time
of the Hollywood investigation,
539
00:30:34,290 --> 00:30:37,418
I was the most experienced agent
in the Seattle division
540
00:30:37,418 --> 00:30:38,670
working bank robberies.
541
00:30:39,879 --> 00:30:44,217
I'm trying to recall the cases I worked
where somebody did what Hollywood did,
542
00:30:44,217 --> 00:30:45,885
from doing teller drawers
543
00:30:45,885 --> 00:30:49,639
to doing armed takeovers
to doing vault takeovers.
544
00:30:50,223 --> 00:30:53,893
I can't think of anyone else
that took that route.
545
00:30:54,686 --> 00:30:58,731
The Hollywood investigation
was similar to a jigsaw puzzle.
546
00:30:58,731 --> 00:31:00,942
We had little clues here,
little clues here.
547
00:31:00,942 --> 00:31:02,735
Starting to put the big picture together.
548
00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:05,989
I think Hollywood
was enjoying what he did.
549
00:31:06,906 --> 00:31:10,118
First four robberies,
he got more than the average bank robber.
550
00:31:12,203 --> 00:31:14,205
But then he started going into the vaults.
551
00:31:14,789 --> 00:31:17,417
Doing vault robberies on your own
is very risky,
552
00:31:17,417 --> 00:31:20,962
because you have no idea
what's happening in the rest of the bank.
553
00:31:20,962 --> 00:31:24,799
It's more exposure.
It's more potential for alarms going off.
554
00:31:25,925 --> 00:31:29,512
At that point in time,
his level of sophistication went up.
555
00:31:30,179 --> 00:31:31,139
The threat went up.
556
00:31:32,140 --> 00:31:34,976
It was a challenge to him,
and he wanted to challenge us.
557
00:31:35,643 --> 00:31:37,729
But the big picture here was what?
558
00:31:37,729 --> 00:31:40,857
It was, "Who is Hollywood?
Who is Hollywood?"
559
00:31:43,151 --> 00:31:46,738
- [man] All right. You ready?
- Welcome to the Treehouse. Come right in.
560
00:31:49,157 --> 00:31:51,784
[Suzanne] My parents
were totally in awe of the Treehouse
561
00:31:51,784 --> 00:31:54,621
because my dad loved building things.
562
00:31:55,705 --> 00:31:58,207
[man laughs] This is going to be
the dining room.
563
00:31:58,207 --> 00:31:59,125
[Scott] Yup.
564
00:31:59,125 --> 00:32:02,503
[Suzanne] It was one
of the most remarkable edifices ever.
565
00:32:03,046 --> 00:32:08,593
So they were in awe of who Scotty was
and what he had done in that arena.
566
00:32:08,593 --> 00:32:10,678
[wistful music playing]
567
00:32:11,179 --> 00:32:13,348
We grew up in a loving household.
568
00:32:13,348 --> 00:32:17,352
My father was a minister,
a very well-loved minister.
569
00:32:17,352 --> 00:32:20,730
My mother was a teacher
of learning disabled children.
570
00:32:22,398 --> 00:32:26,486
We were preacher's kids, and darn it,
from a very young age,
571
00:32:26,486 --> 00:32:29,614
we were gonna prove to everybody
that we're not goody-two-shoes.
572
00:32:30,281 --> 00:32:33,993
[man] Both of us were very adventurous.
That's what made us friends.
573
00:32:33,993 --> 00:32:37,872
He had a different quality,
a fearlessness.
574
00:32:38,665 --> 00:32:41,834
There were showroom houses
all around Reston, Virginia.
575
00:32:42,335 --> 00:32:44,712
We knew how to get into all of them.
576
00:32:45,588 --> 00:32:49,300
Scotty and I both learned
how to pick locks.
577
00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:52,428
We did not learn to pick locks
to steal anything.
578
00:32:52,428 --> 00:32:54,555
We learned how to pick locks
579
00:32:54,555 --> 00:32:57,308
so we could get
to the other side of the door.
580
00:32:57,308 --> 00:32:59,394
[wistful music continues]
581
00:32:59,394 --> 00:33:02,313
[Suzanne] As he grew older
into his teen years,
582
00:33:02,313 --> 00:33:04,732
he became more and more
and more secretive.
583
00:33:04,732 --> 00:33:07,568
And we used to call him
the master of disinformation
584
00:33:07,568 --> 00:33:09,988
because he wouldn't outright lie to you,
585
00:33:09,988 --> 00:33:14,909
but he would tell you something
that you knew wasn't quite right
586
00:33:14,909 --> 00:33:16,494
or he would leave something out.
587
00:33:18,579 --> 00:33:22,250
When he first started to do crazy stuff,
588
00:33:22,250 --> 00:33:26,462
one of the things he did,
and I think he was 15, maybe 16,
589
00:33:26,462 --> 00:33:29,841
was that he and this friend stole a car,
590
00:33:29,841 --> 00:33:32,885
a van I believe,
from a local day care center,
591
00:33:32,885 --> 00:33:35,179
and drove it to the beach,
and they got caught.
592
00:33:36,973 --> 00:33:39,851
And I think that was
a big break for my father,
593
00:33:39,851 --> 00:33:42,520
because he realized with that event
594
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,189
that something
had really gone south in Scotty.
595
00:33:45,189 --> 00:33:47,316
[wistful music continues]
596
00:33:47,316 --> 00:33:53,239
He grew up and didn't outgrow the behavior
that we had as kids or adolescents.
597
00:33:53,906 --> 00:33:56,284
He just sort of refined it
and kept right on going.
598
00:33:57,410 --> 00:34:00,079
[Steve] Everything with Scott
was a stepping stone.
599
00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:04,333
The Hawthorne Hills Bank
was the opening of a new world for us.
600
00:34:05,251 --> 00:34:07,670
{\an8}Once you enter the vaults,
you're on another level.
601
00:34:09,422 --> 00:34:10,256
{\an8}At this point,
602
00:34:10,256 --> 00:34:13,551
{\an8}when we would intentionally
leave a vehicle for the cops,
603
00:34:13,551 --> 00:34:15,344
{\an8}we would make sure we hired a person,
604
00:34:15,344 --> 00:34:19,474
{\an8}either a woman or some guy
that looked totally different from us,
605
00:34:19,474 --> 00:34:23,561
{\an8}maybe he'd be 6 ft. 3 in.
and long, scraggly hair or whatever,
606
00:34:24,228 --> 00:34:25,646
{\an8}give him $1,000,
607
00:34:25,646 --> 00:34:28,983
{\an8}he would go purchase the car,
drive it to me, and I would take it.
608
00:34:31,611 --> 00:34:34,197
{\an8}We sanitized them with mineral spirits.
609
00:34:34,947 --> 00:34:39,202
{\an8}We would get female hair
and put that in the back seat.
610
00:34:39,202 --> 00:34:41,996
{\an8}Tried to make it
always as confusing as possible.
611
00:34:42,580 --> 00:34:44,165
Sometimes there were multiple roads
612
00:34:44,165 --> 00:34:46,459
leading to the bank
where police would be coming,
613
00:34:46,459 --> 00:34:49,003
so we would hire somebody as a lookout.
614
00:34:49,003 --> 00:34:53,591
My role, only two occasions I did,
uh, was to be a point man.
615
00:34:53,591 --> 00:34:56,761
He gave me a radio, told me to park here.
616
00:34:57,345 --> 00:35:00,014
When you see the police coming,
just say, "Mama's coming."
617
00:35:00,973 --> 00:35:02,225
That's all you gotta do.
618
00:35:02,225 --> 00:35:04,936
There was no hesitation on my part
to help Scott out.
619
00:35:04,936 --> 00:35:07,480
You know,
it was just a thing among friends.
620
00:35:08,064 --> 00:35:11,859
[Steve] One of Scott's main methodologies
was to repeat robbing the same bank.
621
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,612
Nobody's gonna believe
that you're gonna come right back
622
00:35:14,612 --> 00:35:17,073
and do the same thing again
within a few days.
623
00:35:21,536 --> 00:35:23,704
The first thing we'd do,
we'd dump all the money out
624
00:35:23,704 --> 00:35:26,833
and then we would go through
with ultraviolet lights
625
00:35:26,833 --> 00:35:29,001
any money that looked like
it might be marked.
626
00:35:29,502 --> 00:35:30,837
New money was the most dangerous
627
00:35:30,837 --> 00:35:35,091
'cause you have sequential serial numbers,
so we would scatter those around.
628
00:35:36,342 --> 00:35:40,263
We would lock up all of the equipment
in military canisters
629
00:35:40,263 --> 00:35:42,181
that we would bury in the ground.
630
00:35:42,181 --> 00:35:44,517
Then we took the clothes
back into the forest
631
00:35:44,517 --> 00:35:46,769
and we had a pit
where we burned everything.
632
00:35:47,311 --> 00:35:49,355
After that, I had to go launder the money.
633
00:35:49,355 --> 00:35:51,607
["I Want More" by Can playing]
634
00:35:51,607 --> 00:35:53,943
Scott did a lot of sportsbook gambling.
635
00:35:53,943 --> 00:35:56,737
And the laundering of the money,
he thought of that.
636
00:35:56,737 --> 00:35:59,407
That was his creation.
It's an ingenious creation.
637
00:36:01,075 --> 00:36:03,828
You place the same amount of money
on both teams that are playing
638
00:36:03,828 --> 00:36:05,580
at two different casinos,
639
00:36:05,580 --> 00:36:07,915
and one of the teams is gonna win.
640
00:36:09,250 --> 00:36:11,294
So you end up getting back all your money
641
00:36:11,294 --> 00:36:13,796
except for what the house receives
on the losing team,
642
00:36:13,796 --> 00:36:14,922
which is 5%.
643
00:36:16,090 --> 00:36:17,925
We weren't losing anything, really.
644
00:36:17,925 --> 00:36:19,468
["I Want More" continues]
645
00:36:19,468 --> 00:36:21,846
Scott did a lot with his money
646
00:36:21,846 --> 00:36:24,390
and he just lived his life
the way he wanted to live it.
647
00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:26,392
["I Want More" continues]
648
00:36:28,186 --> 00:36:30,897
Travel, seeing the world,
meeting different people.
649
00:36:30,897 --> 00:36:32,023
That's what he loved.
650
00:36:33,232 --> 00:36:36,068
[Scott] I have been realizing lately
the virtues of traveling alone.
651
00:36:37,153 --> 00:36:39,989
All my wildest experiences
have happened while I'm alone.
652
00:36:40,907 --> 00:36:43,034
[T.J.] Scott was definitely
a man of mystery.
653
00:36:43,576 --> 00:36:45,244
He would disappear for a while.
654
00:36:46,037 --> 00:36:49,874
One time I thought maybe he was CIA.
Maybe he was a pot grower.
655
00:36:52,376 --> 00:36:54,587
[Jimmy] I never really asked him
what he did for money.
656
00:36:55,963 --> 00:36:59,967
He must be a contractor. I don't know.
That's why he was so handy building.
657
00:37:04,972 --> 00:37:09,143
I found out that he was really interested
in stopping the logging of the forest.
658
00:37:10,311 --> 00:37:11,938
[Steve] He worked with Earth First,
659
00:37:11,938 --> 00:37:14,857
and he would give donation money
to these environmentalists.
660
00:37:14,857 --> 00:37:18,361
And I said, "Why do you do that, Scott?
Why waste money on these hippies?"
661
00:37:18,945 --> 00:37:22,823
[Alban] Scott did view himself
as a Robin Hood figure.
662
00:37:22,823 --> 00:37:26,410
And I think it was, uh, evident
in the way he acquired the money
663
00:37:26,410 --> 00:37:28,496
and then also the way he dispersed it.
664
00:37:29,830 --> 00:37:32,583
[Jimmy] In terms of him being
a Robin Hood figure, I know that was true.
665
00:37:32,583 --> 00:37:35,586
He gave money to me. He gave money
to other people and other things.
666
00:37:35,586 --> 00:37:37,296
I saw him give money away.
667
00:37:38,214 --> 00:37:39,382
[Steve] He helped people.
668
00:37:39,382 --> 00:37:43,135
They needed something, he'd give them
a few thousand dollars for whatever.
669
00:37:43,636 --> 00:37:45,012
He spread the money around.
670
00:37:46,180 --> 00:37:48,224
[Mark] It's a funny relationship
you have with money.
671
00:37:48,224 --> 00:37:50,685
You didn't earn it.
You stole it. You took it.
672
00:37:50,685 --> 00:37:52,728
Spend it freely, and then go get more.
673
00:37:52,728 --> 00:37:53,854
[Scott] Mmm, mmm.
674
00:37:53,854 --> 00:37:55,523
[Steve] He wasn't Robin Hood.
675
00:37:55,523 --> 00:37:57,400
If you look at Robin Hood,
it was idealistic.
676
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,361
He stole from the rich and gave,
you know, all of that nonsense.
677
00:38:00,361 --> 00:38:01,737
And Scott wasn't like that.
678
00:38:01,737 --> 00:38:03,614
He helped people that he knew
679
00:38:03,614 --> 00:38:06,284
if he needed something
in the future to be done,
680
00:38:06,284 --> 00:38:08,786
he could call on them
and they would do it.
681
00:38:10,997 --> 00:38:12,999
[suspenseful music playing]
682
00:38:18,796 --> 00:38:21,674
[Steve] Regardless
of how successful it all was,
683
00:38:21,674 --> 00:38:24,302
there's a certain point
where you're challenging fate
684
00:38:24,302 --> 00:38:28,014
and it doesn't always turn out
the way you want it to turn out.
685
00:38:28,014 --> 00:38:29,765
[suspenseful music continues]
686
00:38:29,765 --> 00:38:31,600
{\an8}One robbery we had to abort
687
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,437
{\an8}because a customer recognized him
as he was walking in.
688
00:38:36,981 --> 00:38:39,483
{\an8}I got the dispatch call,
and I had to call him out.
689
00:38:40,609 --> 00:38:42,737
[Steve on radio] We're out.
Let's go, let's go.
690
00:38:43,612 --> 00:38:46,324
{\an8}[Steve] For the next one,
as soon as he got in his getaway car,
691
00:38:46,324 --> 00:38:49,785
{\an8}the dye pack blew up
and he threw that whole thing out.
692
00:38:49,785 --> 00:38:52,288
{\an8}[suspenseful music continues]
693
00:38:52,288 --> 00:38:53,372
{\an8}[tires screech]
694
00:38:54,582 --> 00:38:57,752
{\an8}We found the vehicle
just blocks away from the bank.
695
00:38:58,919 --> 00:39:02,340
I sat in that station wagon
at the scene for a couple of minutes,
696
00:39:02,340 --> 00:39:03,758
just absorbing that.
697
00:39:04,675 --> 00:39:07,511
That was the closest
I had come to him at that point in time,
698
00:39:07,511 --> 00:39:10,389
sitting in that car
waiting for the next robbery to happen.
699
00:39:11,807 --> 00:39:13,601
We were able to trace it
to previous owners.
700
00:39:14,643 --> 00:39:17,438
Through that, we were able
to develop composite sketches
701
00:39:17,438 --> 00:39:19,857
of individuals who had bought cars.
702
00:39:20,816 --> 00:39:22,735
[Ellen] We had a police profiler come in
703
00:39:22,735 --> 00:39:25,363
and brief all of the people
that were working on the case
704
00:39:25,363 --> 00:39:27,531
who suggested
that he might be a police officer.
705
00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:32,745
We thought that because of the skill
that he had when he was robbing banks.
706
00:39:32,745 --> 00:39:35,581
There was suspicion
that Detective Magan had
707
00:39:35,581 --> 00:39:37,958
that Hollywood might be a police officer.
708
00:39:37,958 --> 00:39:41,670
Shawn Johnson had the belief
that Hollywood could be a police officer.
709
00:39:42,254 --> 00:39:44,840
Did I believe he was a police officer? No.
710
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,842
I didn't buy that theory.
711
00:39:46,842 --> 00:39:48,135
We definitely considered it,
712
00:39:48,135 --> 00:39:50,721
and we thought that
that made him more dangerous.
713
00:39:51,514 --> 00:39:54,642
We wanted to get the word out
so we could solve this case.
714
00:39:54,642 --> 00:39:55,893
So we used the media,
715
00:39:55,893 --> 00:39:59,188
and that was part
of a very carefully laid-out plan.
716
00:39:59,980 --> 00:40:02,566
We told you about
a bank robber nicknamed Hollywood.
717
00:40:02,566 --> 00:40:05,694
He's number one
on the FBI's Most Wanted List.
718
00:40:05,694 --> 00:40:08,489
[reporter] Disguises are the reason
the FBI dubbed this man Hollywood.
719
00:40:08,489 --> 00:40:10,741
He's successfully hit
more than a dozen banks
720
00:40:10,741 --> 00:40:12,034
in the past four years.
721
00:40:12,034 --> 00:40:14,495
[David] It changed the story dramatically
722
00:40:14,495 --> 00:40:17,123
when the FBI came out
with this nickname of Hollywood,
723
00:40:17,123 --> 00:40:21,001
because we knew that they were having
a hard time tracking this guy,
724
00:40:21,001 --> 00:40:22,503
and it seemed to be on a cycle.
725
00:40:22,503 --> 00:40:24,880
Like every six months,
a bank was being hit,
726
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,882
and it became, "Was this Hollywood again?"
727
00:40:26,882 --> 00:40:29,176
[reporter] FBI agent
Shawn Johnson's mission
728
00:40:29,176 --> 00:40:31,846
is to find anyone
who knows anything about Hollywood.
729
00:40:31,846 --> 00:40:35,391
I think initially,
we'll start off, uh, door-to-door,
730
00:40:35,391 --> 00:40:37,393
half of us on one side, half on the other.
731
00:40:37,393 --> 00:40:40,813
[David] You didn't usually see
an FBI agent walk into a neighborhood
732
00:40:40,813 --> 00:40:43,774
and say, "Can you tell me anything
about this bank robbery?"
733
00:40:43,774 --> 00:40:48,404
That was wild, to see an agent,
you know, being so open.
734
00:40:48,404 --> 00:40:51,615
Also a clue that they had no clue.
735
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:56,537
Maybe I wanted him to know
that I was there, you know?
736
00:40:56,537 --> 00:40:59,707
I was there too. So here's me on TV.
737
00:40:59,707 --> 00:41:02,168
[mysterious music playing]
738
00:41:02,168 --> 00:41:04,712
[Mike] Most suspects followed their media.
739
00:41:04,712 --> 00:41:07,673
In fact, I think they actually loved it.
740
00:41:07,673 --> 00:41:09,550
{\an8}[Steve] The first time
we heard about Hollywood
741
00:41:09,550 --> 00:41:11,886
was from the two-page article
with Shawn Johnson.
742
00:41:11,886 --> 00:41:12,803
He was saying,
743
00:41:12,803 --> 00:41:15,389
"Somebody out there knows who this man is
and we need your help."
744
00:41:15,389 --> 00:41:19,560
- [reporter 1] His nickname is Hollywood.
- [reporter 2] Hollywood wears makeup...
745
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,896
[Steve] That name
influenced him immensely.
746
00:41:21,896 --> 00:41:23,606
I think it built him up even more.
747
00:41:23,606 --> 00:41:24,773
I think it excited him,
748
00:41:24,773 --> 00:41:28,569
without him saying it or acknowledging it,
but I know his personality.
749
00:41:28,569 --> 00:41:29,862
Deep inside, he was proud.
750
00:41:29,862 --> 00:41:33,699
[Ellen] We thought he would rob again
if he was getting so much attention.
751
00:41:37,286 --> 00:41:39,288
[tense music playing]
752
00:41:41,207 --> 00:41:44,335
[Steve] Each robbery was an opportunity
to try something new.
753
00:41:45,753 --> 00:41:50,007
For the getaways, we would try to figure
out what the FBI would expect us to do,
754
00:41:50,007 --> 00:41:51,884
and then we would just do the opposite.
755
00:41:52,468 --> 00:41:54,637
For the bank we wanted to do, to get away,
756
00:41:54,637 --> 00:41:57,515
you either go down Madison
toward the police coming in,
757
00:41:57,515 --> 00:41:59,975
or you have to go all around the lake.
758
00:42:00,476 --> 00:42:03,187
So I said, "Why don't you get into the van
and just stay there?"
759
00:42:03,187 --> 00:42:04,813
"And I'll go to a restaurant,
760
00:42:04,813 --> 00:42:07,066
and I'll sit and wait for the heat to go."
761
00:42:07,066 --> 00:42:09,735
"When the police are gone,
I'll get back out in my car,
762
00:42:09,735 --> 00:42:12,780
and I'll radio you and let you know,
uh, that it's clear to come out."
763
00:42:14,615 --> 00:42:17,826
{\an8}He had a van and we had it retrofitted
so he could get under the floor.
764
00:42:17,826 --> 00:42:20,538
So if they shined lights in there,
they couldn't see him.
765
00:42:20,538 --> 00:42:22,623
[tense music continues]
766
00:42:24,124 --> 00:42:26,252
I told Scott, I said,
"Man, this is gonna be big."
767
00:42:26,752 --> 00:42:28,212
"I just had a dream last night."
768
00:42:28,212 --> 00:42:30,297
"We're gonna have
over a quarter of a million dollars
769
00:42:30,297 --> 00:42:32,299
and you're gonna get out safely."
770
00:42:32,299 --> 00:42:33,592
"It's not gonna be a problem."
771
00:42:34,343 --> 00:42:36,637
[tense music continues]
772
00:42:42,351 --> 00:42:44,353
[sirens wail]
773
00:42:45,271 --> 00:42:48,899
{\an8}[Steve] It was a good 45 minutes
I was in the restaurant.
774
00:42:50,276 --> 00:42:52,278
{\an8}There was four or five cop cars out there,
775
00:42:52,278 --> 00:42:54,029
{\an8}and I could just look out the window
776
00:42:54,029 --> 00:42:56,657
and see when it was dispersed
and finished.
777
00:42:57,324 --> 00:43:01,453
{\an8}I arrive at the scene and I'm thinking,
778
00:43:02,454 --> 00:43:07,042
"Is this guy some kind of a ghost?
How does he just slip away like that?"
779
00:43:07,042 --> 00:43:09,128
[tense music continues]
780
00:43:12,047 --> 00:43:14,383
{\an8}[Steve] One thing he discovered
while he was in the van
781
00:43:14,383 --> 00:43:16,468
{\an8}was the condensation from his breathing.
782
00:43:17,636 --> 00:43:18,804
{\an8}If the police had been aware,
783
00:43:18,804 --> 00:43:21,473
{\an8}they would see that
and think there was someone in there.
784
00:43:23,100 --> 00:43:25,060
I went over
to a wine shop across the street
785
00:43:25,060 --> 00:43:27,980
and when I came out of the wine shop,
they had all gone.
786
00:43:27,980 --> 00:43:29,440
And I went to the car
787
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,484
and I got my radio out
and I radioed Scott,
788
00:43:32,484 --> 00:43:34,028
and I said, "Boss, let's go."
789
00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:44,455
It was this cat and mouse game.
790
00:43:44,455 --> 00:43:47,875
It was clear that police
and law enforcement were frustrated.
791
00:43:47,875 --> 00:43:50,336
They couldn't figure out
who this person was.
792
00:43:50,336 --> 00:43:52,254
[reporter 1] What everyone
seems to remember
793
00:43:52,254 --> 00:43:55,090
is how he orders people around
and threatens to shoot them.
794
00:43:55,090 --> 00:43:56,925
[reporter 2] FBI agents are frustrated
795
00:43:56,925 --> 00:44:00,262
that Hollywood has been able
to get away with so much for so long.
796
00:44:00,846 --> 00:44:03,724
They fear that he will turn violent
before he's caught.
797
00:44:03,724 --> 00:44:06,644
[David] I think that's what changed
the Hollywood story,
798
00:44:06,644 --> 00:44:09,605
is that, until we started
to hear from the tellers
799
00:44:09,605 --> 00:44:12,816
who told these horrifying stories,
he hadn't hurt anybody.
800
00:44:12,816 --> 00:44:14,318
[tense music playing]
801
00:44:14,318 --> 00:44:18,113
[Shawn] He got more desperate sometimes.
He tried to get in the vault.
802
00:44:18,113 --> 00:44:21,283
The vault tellers weren't there
to let him in, he got real upset.
803
00:44:21,283 --> 00:44:23,535
He said, "It's Christmas.
I don't want to kill anybody,"
804
00:44:23,535 --> 00:44:25,579
and used a stun gun
on one of the employees.
805
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,915
So he was willing to use weapons.
806
00:44:28,999 --> 00:44:31,126
I've seen people crying.
807
00:44:31,126 --> 00:44:34,296
I mean, just very emotional,
and you're trying to get to the point
808
00:44:34,296 --> 00:44:38,008
where you calm them down a bit
to... to talk to them, what happened.
809
00:44:38,008 --> 00:44:42,179
It was unlike any robbery that any of them
had ever gone through before.
810
00:44:42,179 --> 00:44:45,015
{\an8}[bank teller] We could not tell
from one second to the next
811
00:44:45,015 --> 00:44:46,558
{\an8}what he was likely to do.
812
00:44:46,558 --> 00:44:48,894
{\an8}He was extremely threatening.
813
00:44:49,478 --> 00:44:52,064
[Ellen] Bank robbery
is not a victimless crime.
814
00:44:52,606 --> 00:44:55,234
The people that are
in the bank are traumatized,
815
00:44:55,234 --> 00:44:57,403
tellers are traumatized.
816
00:44:57,403 --> 00:45:01,907
When you have a gun pointed at your face,
where people threaten to kill you,
817
00:45:01,907 --> 00:45:04,368
these take a toll on human beings.
818
00:45:04,368 --> 00:45:06,787
I've been robbed 14 times,
819
00:45:06,787 --> 00:45:09,665
and one of those
was the Hollywood bank robber.
820
00:45:10,207 --> 00:45:12,459
He commanded this presence,
821
00:45:12,459 --> 00:45:16,547
and he told everyone to freeze
and everyone froze.
822
00:45:16,547 --> 00:45:20,134
It's unusual for a robber
to have that much control.
823
00:45:20,676 --> 00:45:22,678
It doesn't ever leave you.
824
00:45:23,178 --> 00:45:27,891
You can go on with your life,
but it doesn't ever leave you. Ever.
825
00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:31,729
{\an8}[bank teller] There's got to be something
more that we can do to stop these people.
826
00:45:31,729 --> 00:45:33,480
{\an8}Somebody's going to get hurt.
827
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,067
He thought that he was
just having the greatest time,
828
00:45:37,067 --> 00:45:38,444
living his best life.
829
00:45:40,446 --> 00:45:43,741
But for him to think
that he was gonna get away with this
830
00:45:44,241 --> 00:45:45,701
was just a false premise.
831
00:45:46,410 --> 00:45:47,327
[laughter]
832
00:45:47,995 --> 00:45:50,080
[Steve] When you step
into the world we were living,
833
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,666
you have no idea
the toll it's gonna bring upon you.
834
00:45:52,666 --> 00:45:53,625
It's impossible.
835
00:45:55,377 --> 00:45:57,629
After so many years of bank robberies,
836
00:45:57,629 --> 00:46:01,175
you are no longer the same person
that you were before you began.
837
00:46:03,177 --> 00:46:05,721
[Alban] Scott started to get stressed.
838
00:46:06,221 --> 00:46:09,892
He was no longer
the casual, happy-go-lucky person.
839
00:46:09,892 --> 00:46:11,101
That person was gone.
840
00:46:12,603 --> 00:46:14,938
[T.J.] The vibe
around the Treehouse changed.
841
00:46:14,938 --> 00:46:20,444
He became more closed off,
and more isolated, and way less social.
842
00:46:21,612 --> 00:46:24,740
[Steve] Scott had me
live up at the front house
843
00:46:24,740 --> 00:46:26,116
to keep people out of there.
844
00:46:26,617 --> 00:46:29,870
More and more,
his life was becoming secretive
845
00:46:29,870 --> 00:46:31,497
and he needed to have people away.
846
00:46:31,497 --> 00:46:33,874
He didn't want people around,
seeing what he was doing.
847
00:46:36,668 --> 00:46:40,964
{\an8}[Mark] Once you do cross the Rubicon
and start living that life,
848
00:46:40,964 --> 00:46:44,510
{\an8}you have to lie
to everybody about everything.
849
00:46:44,510 --> 00:46:47,596
Everybody you care about.
Everybody you meet.
850
00:46:49,306 --> 00:46:51,183
[Scott] I keep going
in the wrong direction.
851
00:46:51,934 --> 00:46:55,229
I start things and then stop
before the great benefit can be gotten.
852
00:46:55,729 --> 00:46:57,898
Many females have felt
my no-follow-through.
853
00:46:59,233 --> 00:47:03,070
Do I just want to want?
Is that why I get no satisfaction?
854
00:47:04,154 --> 00:47:08,116
I one time kidded with him
when I'd observe him with certain women.
855
00:47:08,116 --> 00:47:11,245
I'd say, "What do you do? Treat women
like condiments? Give me a break."
856
00:47:12,246 --> 00:47:14,957
[T.J.] Is he single or what?
You got women in your bed?
857
00:47:16,375 --> 00:47:18,168
[Scott] Things don't compute
like they used to.
858
00:47:18,669 --> 00:47:21,338
I usually feel free and secure
about my plans in life,
859
00:47:22,381 --> 00:47:25,259
but now I'm beginning to feel captured.
860
00:47:26,009 --> 00:47:27,010
[T.J.] Cheers!
861
00:47:27,010 --> 00:47:30,597
[Suzanne] He showed up at the door,
"Gotta talk to you."
862
00:47:31,348 --> 00:47:34,017
And as we're sitting there,
he's sitting across from me
863
00:47:34,017 --> 00:47:37,020
and he just starts to cry,
like tears streaming down his face.
864
00:47:37,020 --> 00:47:40,357
And he says,
"Suze, I don't know what's going on."
865
00:47:40,357 --> 00:47:44,069
"But when I look in the mirror,
the face looking back at me isn't my own."
866
00:47:44,069 --> 00:47:45,404
"What is that?"
867
00:47:46,488 --> 00:47:48,740
I knew at that point
he was really in trouble.
868
00:47:49,366 --> 00:47:53,704
This light and dark tussle in him,
he was losing the battle.
869
00:47:54,538 --> 00:47:58,709
[Steve] He started drinking more and more
and more to subdue the anxieties.
870
00:47:59,251 --> 00:48:02,296
But Scott wanted one final act,
871
00:48:02,296 --> 00:48:03,964
and that was three or four banks,
872
00:48:03,964 --> 00:48:06,300
one right after the other
in the same evening.
873
00:48:06,884 --> 00:48:09,678
We get 10 to 15 million dollars
and we call it a day.
874
00:48:09,678 --> 00:48:12,014
I go about my business,
you go about yours.
875
00:48:12,014 --> 00:48:13,432
[tense music playing]
876
00:48:13,432 --> 00:48:15,183
We had three banks figured out.
877
00:48:16,852 --> 00:48:20,022
First, you hit a small bank,
go in and get out,
878
00:48:20,022 --> 00:48:21,523
and you don't care about the money.
879
00:48:21,523 --> 00:48:24,735
You just care about
diverting the police to that small bank.
880
00:48:24,735 --> 00:48:26,570
Then you go back and hit a bigger bank.
881
00:48:27,070 --> 00:48:29,197
Then by the time they get there,
there's a third one.
882
00:48:29,197 --> 00:48:30,657
I mean, what are they gonna do?
883
00:48:31,700 --> 00:48:34,036
We wanted to decimate the city of Seattle,
884
00:48:34,036 --> 00:48:36,747
and it was not only doable,
it was winnable.
885
00:48:36,747 --> 00:48:38,832
[tense music playing]
886
00:48:39,625 --> 00:48:42,711
[Shawn] I was getting a bit frustrated
during this investigation.
887
00:48:42,711 --> 00:48:45,047
We had come up with
a couple of getaway vehicles and such,
888
00:48:45,047 --> 00:48:47,382
but it was getting close
but not close enough.
889
00:48:48,508 --> 00:48:51,887
I got tired of waiting,
just reacting to his bank robberies.
890
00:48:53,305 --> 00:48:55,641
I started digging back through the files,
891
00:48:55,641 --> 00:48:57,976
back through the MO,
892
00:48:58,477 --> 00:49:00,479
the time of day, the day of the week,
893
00:49:00,479 --> 00:49:03,607
location of the banks,
how much money he was taking.
894
00:49:04,691 --> 00:49:06,068
I knew he had an ego.
895
00:49:06,610 --> 00:49:09,196
That's why I knew he was gonna come back
at some point in time.
896
00:49:10,572 --> 00:49:12,240
I sat down and did the math,
897
00:49:13,158 --> 00:49:17,829
figured out that he was going through
approximately $21,000 a month.
898
00:49:19,498 --> 00:49:20,666
So with that in mind,
899
00:49:20,666 --> 00:49:24,044
I predicted that he was going to hit
one of three days
900
00:49:24,044 --> 00:49:25,629
the following year in January.
901
00:49:27,673 --> 00:49:29,174
I knew that he would be back.
902
00:49:29,174 --> 00:49:32,010
Certain locations I thought
were likely targets.
903
00:49:33,011 --> 00:49:34,972
It was a waiting game
for them to come back,
904
00:49:34,972 --> 00:49:37,391
and that we were in the right spot
at the right time.
905
00:49:43,063 --> 00:49:45,691
[Steve] After the last big robbery,
we took a year off.
906
00:49:46,775 --> 00:49:49,111
We were finally planning
to take down three banks,
907
00:49:49,111 --> 00:49:50,904
but we needed another person
908
00:49:50,904 --> 00:49:54,116
because of the logistics
of taking down these banks.
909
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,538
[Mark] After the first bank robbery,
910
00:49:59,538 --> 00:50:02,749
I went right to Montana
and was hiding out there
911
00:50:02,749 --> 00:50:06,169
and then Scott showed up
and drew me back into it.
912
00:50:07,045 --> 00:50:09,589
Scott's been going
into the banks by himself,
913
00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:12,509
and he was having trouble
with crowd control.
914
00:50:12,509 --> 00:50:15,345
So he told me, "All you have to do
is stand in the lobby."
915
00:50:15,345 --> 00:50:17,931
"Make sure nobody leaves.
That's all you gotta do."
916
00:50:20,058 --> 00:50:22,310
[Shawn] A year had passed
since I made those predictions
917
00:50:22,310 --> 00:50:24,271
on three days in January
that he was gonna hit.
918
00:50:24,271 --> 00:50:28,108
- [police radio chattering]
- So myself and a task force member
919
00:50:28,108 --> 00:50:31,028
surveilled banks I figured
were logical targets for Hollywood.
920
00:50:31,695 --> 00:50:33,947
First day, nothing happens.
921
00:50:34,698 --> 00:50:37,367
Second day, nothing happened.
922
00:50:38,118 --> 00:50:41,204
The third day, I was out there
waiting for him by myself.
923
00:50:42,247 --> 00:50:44,291
[Steve] With Mark back,
we decided to hit one bank,
924
00:50:44,291 --> 00:50:46,752
just to get the feel of it,
before we hit three.
925
00:50:46,752 --> 00:50:48,587
[tense music playing]
926
00:50:49,504 --> 00:50:52,966
[Mark] My second robbery
was so different than the first.
927
00:50:53,467 --> 00:50:55,594
More under control, went a lot smoother.
928
00:50:55,594 --> 00:50:58,013
It was more like a job than an adventure.
929
00:50:58,013 --> 00:50:59,222
[tense music continues]
930
00:50:59,222 --> 00:51:00,682
[indistinct radio chatter]
931
00:51:04,394 --> 00:51:06,605
[Shawn] I knew immediately
based on the description,
932
00:51:07,105 --> 00:51:08,398
"Oh shit, it's Hollywood."
933
00:51:08,982 --> 00:51:11,735
He's hitting another bank a mile up
from where I was waiting for him.
934
00:51:11,735 --> 00:51:15,197
He came back just as I said.
He came back the third day.
935
00:51:17,199 --> 00:51:20,535
I was getting closer and I felt like,
"I'm just a couple of minutes behind you."
936
00:51:20,535 --> 00:51:23,413
"Not months, not weeks.
Just a few minutes behind you now."
937
00:51:23,413 --> 00:51:25,207
[tires screech]
938
00:51:25,207 --> 00:51:28,585
[Shawn] I proceeded up to the bank.
We had secured the scene.
939
00:51:29,294 --> 00:51:32,297
I was the first follow-up person
at the scene.
940
00:51:33,048 --> 00:51:35,842
And I get to the bank
and I'm looking at Shawn Johnson,
941
00:51:35,842 --> 00:51:37,886
like, "How did you get here so fast?"
942
00:51:37,886 --> 00:51:41,723
And I found out
that he and FBI agents only
943
00:51:41,723 --> 00:51:45,435
were running their own surveillance
looking for Hollywood.
944
00:51:45,977 --> 00:51:48,939
He cut everybody else out
on the task force.
945
00:51:48,939 --> 00:51:53,068
Other task force officers decided
that what I was doing was crazy.
946
00:51:53,068 --> 00:51:55,112
"He's not gonna come back.
He's not gonna be here."
947
00:51:55,821 --> 00:51:59,157
[Ellen] I remember how
that kind of ramped up everybody's energy
948
00:51:59,157 --> 00:52:00,617
to work this case,
949
00:52:00,617 --> 00:52:04,037
'cause it had been some gap
since his previous robbery.
950
00:52:04,037 --> 00:52:06,581
[Mike] Everybody on the task force
thought at that point
951
00:52:06,581 --> 00:52:09,835
that something bad
was definitely gonna happen.
952
00:52:10,335 --> 00:52:12,420
And to Ellen's credit,
953
00:52:12,420 --> 00:52:16,341
she saw that this case
was spinning a little bit out of control,
954
00:52:16,341 --> 00:52:18,677
and we needed to put an end to it.
955
00:52:23,265 --> 00:52:25,100
[Ellen] Hollywood was kind of predictable
956
00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:28,061
in terms of the times of day
and where he would rob.
957
00:52:28,645 --> 00:52:30,939
We hatched a plan to do surveillances,
958
00:52:30,939 --> 00:52:34,192
hoping that one of our guys
would be out on the street
959
00:52:34,192 --> 00:52:35,694
when he robbed a bank.
960
00:52:35,694 --> 00:52:39,906
We needed the Seattle Police Department.
We needed their special patrol unit.
961
00:52:39,906 --> 00:52:42,033
We needed aerial resources.
962
00:52:42,033 --> 00:52:44,619
- We added extra FBI resources.
- [camera clicks]
963
00:52:44,619 --> 00:52:50,000
{\an8}To get all of that in line
was an absolutely Herculean effort.
964
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:54,254
So we made a commitment
to bring all these resources together
965
00:52:54,254 --> 00:52:56,173
for an indefinite period.
966
00:52:59,384 --> 00:53:03,180
This was a time when
one of the new techniques was ProNet.
967
00:53:03,180 --> 00:53:08,268
It was using these electronic tracers
that were attached to money.
968
00:53:08,268 --> 00:53:10,312
They would shoot their signal to towers.
969
00:53:10,312 --> 00:53:14,191
And so then you had to have
a mechanism to follow the tags.
970
00:53:14,191 --> 00:53:16,484
So we had to put 'em
in a lot of police cars.
971
00:53:16,985 --> 00:53:20,280
[Shawn] I had to go back again
through the robberies to date
972
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,033
to find out logical targets
that I would hit again
973
00:53:23,033 --> 00:53:24,910
to put devices into the banks.
974
00:53:25,744 --> 00:53:29,998
[Ellen] We put two of these electronic
tracers in as many banks as we could.
975
00:53:31,583 --> 00:53:33,585
[Mike] Everything revolved around time.
976
00:53:34,085 --> 00:53:36,713
The more of these tracking devices
that were in the vault,
977
00:53:36,713 --> 00:53:39,132
the more time it allowed me to get there.
978
00:53:39,132 --> 00:53:42,594
{\an8}[Al Pacino] If it's between you
and some poor bastard
979
00:53:42,594 --> 00:53:44,804
{\an8}whose wife you're gonna turn into a widow,
980
00:53:46,056 --> 00:53:48,934
brother, you are going down.
981
00:53:50,227 --> 00:53:53,563
[Mark] Scott and I had watched Heat,
which was a pretty intense movie.
982
00:53:53,563 --> 00:53:56,441
- [screaming]
- [grunting]
983
00:53:56,441 --> 00:53:58,026
[man] Don't move! Don't fucking move.
984
00:53:58,026 --> 00:54:01,279
[Mark] The bank robbing scenes
in that movie are spot-on.
985
00:54:01,279 --> 00:54:05,700
And then the shootout
just scared the bejesus out of us.
986
00:54:08,995 --> 00:54:11,373
I remember Scott and I
looking at each other, just going,
987
00:54:11,373 --> 00:54:14,334
"Oh my goodness, what if that happened?"
988
00:54:17,712 --> 00:54:19,881
And that was the game we were playing.
989
00:54:21,007 --> 00:54:24,719
It was a real possibility,
which put the fear of God into us.
990
00:54:25,762 --> 00:54:27,222
Fear of our own mortality.
991
00:54:27,847 --> 00:54:29,849
[dramatic music playing]
992
00:54:30,475 --> 00:54:32,978
Throughout my time working on this case,
993
00:54:32,978 --> 00:54:35,438
I always thought
there was a great possibility
994
00:54:35,438 --> 00:54:36,982
that someone could get hurt.
995
00:54:37,899 --> 00:54:41,361
I've been close
to other bank robberies before in the FBI
996
00:54:41,361 --> 00:54:44,322
where colleagues of mine were killed
997
00:54:44,322 --> 00:54:49,119
in a major shootout in Miami in 1986.
998
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:51,538
[reporter] In a firefight
lasting over four minutes,
999
00:54:51,538 --> 00:54:56,418
two special agents of the FBI were slain
and five other agents were wounded.
1000
00:54:56,918 --> 00:55:00,046
We may not have known who Hollywood was,
1001
00:55:00,046 --> 00:55:03,717
but what we did know is that
if we faced off with him in the street,
1002
00:55:03,717 --> 00:55:06,052
he would not go down without a fight.
1003
00:55:08,930 --> 00:55:10,932
[somber music playing]
1004
00:55:12,017 --> 00:55:14,853
[Steve] At some point
in the middle of everything,
1005
00:55:14,853 --> 00:55:17,480
I had a very vivid dream.
1006
00:55:18,106 --> 00:55:20,775
I was crawling up a beach from the water
1007
00:55:20,775 --> 00:55:23,278
and a shark had just bitten
both of my legs off.
1008
00:55:23,278 --> 00:55:25,363
[somber music continues]
1009
00:55:28,533 --> 00:55:30,535
[Steve] I took the dream as advice.
1010
00:55:31,161 --> 00:55:33,663
The advice was to get out of it.
1011
00:55:35,373 --> 00:55:39,377
I could sense that Scott felt
that there was something looming.
1012
00:55:41,504 --> 00:55:45,091
We took hikes up in the Olympics.
The Olympics were special to Scott.
1013
00:55:46,384 --> 00:55:48,386
That was our time of peace.
1014
00:55:49,304 --> 00:55:52,265
We cleared our mind of the city,
of the chaos,
1015
00:55:52,265 --> 00:55:55,560
and we would go up there in nature
and we'd challenge ourselves.
1016
00:55:57,103 --> 00:55:58,730
On the top of Mount Washington,
1017
00:55:58,730 --> 00:56:02,776
Scott said to me, "Listen. No matter what,
let your own hand be the hand of fate,
1018
00:56:02,776 --> 00:56:05,570
and never let your enemy
dictate your fate."
1019
00:56:06,613 --> 00:56:09,949
"You make sure you're in control
of what you do with your life."
1020
00:56:11,368 --> 00:56:13,536
[Alban] One bank was not enough for Scott.
1021
00:56:13,536 --> 00:56:15,163
He wanted to do three banks.
1022
00:56:15,663 --> 00:56:17,207
I said, "You're nuts, man."
1023
00:56:17,874 --> 00:56:19,793
I talked to Steve and I told him,
1024
00:56:19,793 --> 00:56:23,004
"Listen, man. I think this guy
is getting out of hand here."
1025
00:56:23,004 --> 00:56:26,591
"And I'm going to California
and I suggest you come with me."
1026
00:56:26,591 --> 00:56:29,928
And he actually was thinking about it,
1027
00:56:29,928 --> 00:56:32,013
except he didn't want to let Scott down.
1028
00:56:33,056 --> 00:56:36,351
[Steve] With the final robbery,
I knew I had to go through with it,
1029
00:56:36,351 --> 00:56:39,854
because something had to culminate.
Something had to finalize itself.
1030
00:56:41,815 --> 00:56:43,858
The last time that I saw Scott,
1031
00:56:43,858 --> 00:56:45,944
I had this really bad dream.
1032
00:56:47,570 --> 00:56:50,073
The dream involved guns, a shootout.
1033
00:56:50,073 --> 00:56:52,659
It was in Seattle. People were running.
1034
00:56:52,659 --> 00:56:56,621
And I'm telling him this dream
and he got all white.
1035
00:56:57,956 --> 00:57:00,917
He took a big breath and says,
"You're probably not gonna see me again."
1036
00:57:00,917 --> 00:57:03,962
"I'm probably gonna go
to the Seychelle Islands."
1037
00:57:03,962 --> 00:57:06,381
And I go, "Really?"
I said, "You're gonna come back, right?"
1038
00:57:06,381 --> 00:57:08,967
He goes, "I don't think
you're gonna see me again."
1039
00:57:09,467 --> 00:57:11,469
[somber music continues]
1040
00:57:13,721 --> 00:57:17,434
[Scott] I walk into the night and scream
at God to make his message known to me.
1041
00:57:18,893 --> 00:57:21,104
God is not responding
and I sense rejection.
1042
00:57:22,313 --> 00:57:25,525
It is a time of pain
and anger and resentment.
1043
00:57:26,484 --> 00:57:30,697
Where the fuck do I go from here,
oh great winged white horseman in my mind?
1044
00:57:32,615 --> 00:57:34,826
This will be the last entry
for a long time.
1045
00:57:34,826 --> 00:57:35,743
[music fades]
1046
00:57:41,249 --> 00:57:43,918
[Steve] We prepared for years
to rob these banks.
1047
00:57:44,711 --> 00:57:47,297
And about two weeks before Thanksgiving,
1048
00:57:47,297 --> 00:57:49,674
Scott said there's good news and bad news.
1049
00:57:50,258 --> 00:57:53,636
The bad news is that they now have
ProNet tags in the vault money.
1050
00:57:54,554 --> 00:57:57,765
There is no way to beat the tags
in time to do our original plan.
1051
00:57:58,725 --> 00:58:00,977
So we had to abandon
the multiple banks scenario.
1052
00:58:00,977 --> 00:58:02,145
[tense music playing]
1053
00:58:02,145 --> 00:58:06,024
The good news is,
we take this bank up on 125th Street.
1054
00:58:06,608 --> 00:58:08,526
Mustang told us that there should be
1055
00:58:08,526 --> 00:58:10,904
five to seven million dollars
within the bank.
1056
00:58:11,654 --> 00:58:13,698
So our whole game plan changed.
1057
00:58:15,116 --> 00:58:18,620
But the tracers we had to figure out,
and we had to figure out quickly.
1058
00:58:19,329 --> 00:58:22,248
We did a bank
just to see how we had to deal with it.
1059
00:58:23,958 --> 00:58:26,503
We de-disguised Scott into a ski mask.
1060
00:58:26,503 --> 00:58:29,631
We didn't want them to think
it was Hollywood taking out the tracers.
1061
00:58:30,757 --> 00:58:34,719
And I said, "Listen, just go in there.
Don't even fuck around with the tellers."
1062
00:58:36,012 --> 00:58:37,597
"Go into the vault, get the money,
1063
00:58:37,597 --> 00:58:39,682
and when you come out,
we'll have the tracers."
1064
00:58:40,350 --> 00:58:42,769
"Then we'll find out
how they're planted in the money."
1065
00:58:44,771 --> 00:58:48,483
All of these tags
were put between $20 bills,
1066
00:58:48,483 --> 00:58:50,902
because you can fan it,
you can feel this lump.
1067
00:58:52,028 --> 00:58:55,782
In a very short time, we got two
that we discarded out the window.
1068
00:58:56,699 --> 00:58:57,742
And then after all of that,
1069
00:58:57,742 --> 00:59:00,745
we both felt comfortable and confident
that we could actually do it.
1070
00:59:05,083 --> 00:59:07,085
[tense music playing]
1071
00:59:14,092 --> 00:59:17,720
[Shawn] I woke up the morning
of Thanksgiving Eve 1996.
1072
00:59:18,221 --> 00:59:21,015
My wife says to me that morning
before I leave, "This is the day."
1073
00:59:21,015 --> 00:59:23,935
"This is the day.
You're catching Hollywood today."
1074
00:59:23,935 --> 00:59:27,522
And I'm thinking, "Well,
yeah, I... I don't know about that."
1075
00:59:27,522 --> 00:59:29,691
[Mike] Thanksgiving week
was always a short week
1076
00:59:29,691 --> 00:59:32,277
and most of the people
aren't even in the office.
1077
00:59:33,611 --> 00:59:35,446
[Steve] We wake up Thanksgiving Eve.
1078
00:59:35,446 --> 00:59:38,366
We look out the windows.
The rain was pounding.
1079
00:59:38,366 --> 00:59:40,827
It was gray and dark.
It was beautiful. Wonderful.
1080
00:59:40,827 --> 00:59:42,287
Perfect day for what we were doing.
1081
00:59:42,287 --> 00:59:43,913
[tense music continues]
1082
00:59:43,913 --> 00:59:47,250
I'm in there cleaning,
setting things up, making it perfect.
1083
00:59:48,167 --> 00:59:49,669
[Mark] We go to the makeup room
1084
00:59:49,669 --> 00:59:52,505
and we put on
the prosthetic pieces and the wigs,
1085
00:59:52,505 --> 00:59:54,507
and there wasn't really a lot said.
1086
00:59:55,717 --> 00:59:59,137
[Steve] I walk into the studio.
Scott has the guitar case out.
1087
00:59:59,137 --> 01:00:02,849
He has his assault rifle out.
He has the shotgun out.
1088
01:00:03,516 --> 01:00:06,436
[Mark] The idea was
that if a cop car came up on us,
1089
01:00:07,020 --> 01:00:10,440
we would grab the shotty,
jump out, and shoot out the engine,
1090
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,233
and disable the cop car.
1091
01:00:13,651 --> 01:00:14,944
[Steve] Everything was finalized.
1092
01:00:14,944 --> 01:00:17,780
We were ready to get in the van
and take off for Seattle.
1093
01:00:19,073 --> 01:00:22,035
We had Mustang as a lookout on the hill.
1094
01:00:22,827 --> 01:00:23,911
It's time to do it.
1095
01:00:24,829 --> 01:00:25,747
[music fades]
1096
01:00:31,002 --> 01:00:36,591
We had been trained specifically
on the Hollywood Bandit.
1097
01:00:37,216 --> 01:00:40,720
And when he walked
into the Lake City branch to rob us,
1098
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,764
he walked right past his wanted poster.
1099
01:00:42,764 --> 01:00:44,515
Don't panic. This is a robbery.
1100
01:00:46,517 --> 01:00:50,563
[Steve] Scott walks in first, sets
the motion of getting everybody in place,
1101
01:00:50,563 --> 01:00:52,023
and then Mark comes in,
1102
01:00:52,023 --> 01:00:54,567
and he starts
directing the patrons in there.
1103
01:00:55,068 --> 01:00:56,569
[Mark] You're not even afraid.
1104
01:00:56,569 --> 01:00:59,155
You've rehearsed it in your mind
and you've done it before,
1105
01:00:59,155 --> 01:01:00,198
and so you do it.
1106
01:01:01,324 --> 01:01:05,036
My worst nightmare. Not one Hollywood,
but two, walk through the door.
1107
01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:07,955
And shit just hit the fan.
1108
01:01:08,623 --> 01:01:12,460
So I started pulling up the bill trap,
which sets off an alarm.
1109
01:01:13,586 --> 01:01:14,754
Who's the vault teller?
1110
01:01:16,464 --> 01:01:17,799
So I said, "Well, that's me."
1111
01:01:18,633 --> 01:01:20,093
So we both went back,
1112
01:01:20,093 --> 01:01:24,889
and the vault can open
with a special duress combination
1113
01:01:26,599 --> 01:01:28,685
that activated another alarm.
1114
01:01:28,685 --> 01:01:30,561
[tense music playing]
1115
01:01:30,561 --> 01:01:36,943
I wanted every fucking
law enforcement agency in Seattle there,
1116
01:01:36,943 --> 01:01:39,112
and there as quick as possible.
1117
01:01:39,696 --> 01:01:43,449
[Mike] The office was a ghost town.
Nobody was there. Lights were out.
1118
01:01:44,117 --> 01:01:47,245
[Ellen] I'm at my desk,
just trying to tie up some loose ends.
1119
01:01:47,245 --> 01:01:49,914
[Mike] We're monitoring
the Seattle police radio
1120
01:01:49,914 --> 01:01:51,416
when the tones go out.
1121
01:01:51,416 --> 01:01:53,543
And you hear this beep, beep, beep.
1122
01:01:54,252 --> 01:01:56,963
They're in there for two minutes,
three minutes, five minutes.
1123
01:01:56,963 --> 01:01:59,757
I don't hear anything from Mustang.
Everything is cool.
1124
01:01:59,757 --> 01:02:01,384
And then finally I get the radio.
1125
01:02:01,384 --> 01:02:04,178
[dispatch] We have two suspects
who entered the bank with hats on.
1126
01:02:04,178 --> 01:02:05,388
Long green coats,
1127
01:02:05,388 --> 01:02:08,850
wearing white pancake style makeup
on their faces.
1128
01:02:08,850 --> 01:02:12,812
[Scott Levine] I hear someone calling in
over a radio, "You've been seen."
1129
01:02:15,773 --> 01:02:17,233
- He was not calm.
- Get in here. Help!
1130
01:02:17,233 --> 01:02:20,278
[Scott Levine] He was angry.
He wanted in, he wanted out.
1131
01:02:20,278 --> 01:02:21,696
He meant business.
1132
01:02:21,696 --> 01:02:23,281
[Scott] Let's go, let's go, let's go!
1133
01:02:26,117 --> 01:02:28,286
[Scott Levine] I dumped the ProNet
into the bag.
1134
01:02:28,286 --> 01:02:31,914
As he has a gun aimed at me,
1135
01:02:31,914 --> 01:02:35,376
I'm thinking,
"Is he gonna come back and shoot me?"
1136
01:02:35,376 --> 01:02:36,544
[keys tapping]
1137
01:02:36,544 --> 01:02:38,880
Mike runs by and he says,
1138
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,715
"A bank's been hit.
I think it's Hollywood."
1139
01:02:40,715 --> 01:02:43,092
[Mike] We ran to the car,
turn on the lights,
1140
01:02:43,092 --> 01:02:46,220
turned on the siren
and took off down Second Avenue.
1141
01:02:47,054 --> 01:02:48,806
[Shawn] I leave my office
about five o'clock,
1142
01:02:48,806 --> 01:02:50,141
thinking the day's over with.
1143
01:02:50,641 --> 01:02:53,436
I walk into the kitchen of my house,
my pager goes off.
1144
01:02:53,436 --> 01:02:55,521
I looked down. It was Hollywood.
1145
01:02:56,773 --> 01:03:00,318
[Mark] Scott was in the vault
for a little too long, I thought.
1146
01:03:00,318 --> 01:03:02,820
But then here he comes
bounding out of that area,
1147
01:03:03,404 --> 01:03:06,657
and he had this great big duffle bag,
which I took immediately.
1148
01:03:07,909 --> 01:03:11,287
I'm grabbing the 1,080,000
in this duffle bag.
1149
01:03:11,287 --> 01:03:12,455
[tense music playing]
1150
01:03:14,999 --> 01:03:17,877
- [sirens wailing]
- By this point, we can hear the sirens.
1151
01:03:18,544 --> 01:03:22,340
And that's when we noticed
that there were cops everywhere.
1152
01:03:22,340 --> 01:03:23,758
Thick as flies.
1153
01:03:24,300 --> 01:03:26,052
[sirens continue wailing]
1154
01:03:26,052 --> 01:03:28,888
[Steve] Scott yells, "Steve,
maybe we should just abort right now."
1155
01:03:28,888 --> 01:03:30,014
"Let's just quit."
1156
01:03:30,014 --> 01:03:31,891
I say, "What the fuck
are you talking about?"
1157
01:03:31,891 --> 01:03:34,602
"Let's go! Get this shit done.
Get these tracers out."
1158
01:03:34,602 --> 01:03:36,854
I was driving that fucking car
like it was stolen.
1159
01:03:36,854 --> 01:03:40,817
We were getting updates constantly
from the chief dispatcher.
1160
01:03:40,817 --> 01:03:42,902
Two suspects armed with handguns,
1161
01:03:43,444 --> 01:03:46,447
but I'm trying to focus on
the tracking devices that left the bank.
1162
01:03:46,447 --> 01:03:48,950
[Mike] Do we have any signs
going at all at this time?
1163
01:03:49,450 --> 01:03:51,661
[dispatch] Wedgwood and Lake City
are both hot.
1164
01:03:52,161 --> 01:03:53,913
[Shawn] I'm following
this tracking device.
1165
01:03:53,913 --> 01:03:55,706
It's hitting different areas of the city,
1166
01:03:55,706 --> 01:03:58,084
different antennas, hot and cold,
hot and cold.
1167
01:03:58,084 --> 01:03:59,919
I'm trying to follow that signal.
1168
01:03:59,919 --> 01:04:01,838
Finally Scott yelled out, "I got one!"
1169
01:04:01,838 --> 01:04:03,381
He gave me two $20 bills
1170
01:04:03,381 --> 01:04:05,508
that were glued together
with the ProNet tag,
1171
01:04:05,508 --> 01:04:08,094
and I threw it out the window
and kept going down the street.
1172
01:04:08,094 --> 01:04:10,471
[Mike] An officer
pops up on the radio and says,
1173
01:04:10,471 --> 01:04:13,140
"I'm starting to get
a real strong indication here."
1174
01:04:13,140 --> 01:04:14,433
I roll up on the scene
1175
01:04:14,433 --> 01:04:18,187
and found on the street
the tracking device discarded.
1176
01:04:18,187 --> 01:04:20,481
And immediately, I said, "Oh, shit."
1177
01:04:21,399 --> 01:04:24,318
But I knew there's one more
tracking unit still out there.
1178
01:04:25,194 --> 01:04:28,614
They were back there working. I said,
"Biggins, straighten your mind up."
1179
01:04:28,614 --> 01:04:31,534
"Get the fucking shit going.
Don't be afraid. Just get it done."
1180
01:04:32,451 --> 01:04:36,581
[Mark] It was such a panic
with all the police out buzzing around.
1181
01:04:36,581 --> 01:04:38,583
We knew that they were hunting us.
1182
01:04:38,583 --> 01:04:42,503
We had taken $1,080,000 out of the bank
1183
01:04:42,503 --> 01:04:46,048
and it was too difficult
to find the tracking devices.
1184
01:04:47,049 --> 01:04:49,302
[sirens wailing]
1185
01:04:49,302 --> 01:04:54,223
All of a sudden my display lights up
and goes, "Poof!" It's game day. Showtime.
1186
01:04:54,223 --> 01:04:56,309
[dramatic music playing]
1187
01:04:58,185 --> 01:05:01,188
[Steve] Scott said, "Pull over.
I want to drive. I know better where...'
1188
01:05:01,188 --> 01:05:03,900
I said, "I know where I'm going.
Just do what you gotta do."
1189
01:05:03,900 --> 01:05:04,901
And he was stubborn.
1190
01:05:04,901 --> 01:05:06,068
[Scott] Get over here!
1191
01:05:06,068 --> 01:05:09,280
[Steve] And I finally said, "Okay,"
and I looked behind my driver's seat,
1192
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,115
and there was this pile of money.
1193
01:05:11,115 --> 01:05:13,826
And they didn't have
any order to what they were doing,
1194
01:05:13,826 --> 01:05:16,662
and I go, "Oh my God. Oh my fucking God."
1195
01:05:17,622 --> 01:05:19,790
[Scott] Just drive!
What are you doing? Let's go!
1196
01:05:19,790 --> 01:05:21,834
I'm still a ways back.
I need to get there.
1197
01:05:21,834 --> 01:05:23,336
It's my case. I need to be there.
1198
01:05:24,378 --> 01:05:26,547
[Mike] I'm listening to the tone
and it's going, "Eeee."
1199
01:05:26,547 --> 01:05:28,174
And I'm following the display
1200
01:05:28,174 --> 01:05:30,551
and it's guiding me in
towards this white van.
1201
01:05:31,344 --> 01:05:33,220
And I shut off all my lights
1202
01:05:33,220 --> 01:05:34,847
and I'm just following the display
1203
01:05:34,847 --> 01:05:37,391
right towards the rear end
of this Chevy van.
1204
01:05:38,976 --> 01:05:42,188
I could see there was condensation
on the back windows.
1205
01:05:42,772 --> 01:05:45,733
[Ellen] And we could see lights
through the back window.
1206
01:05:45,733 --> 01:05:47,026
It looked very odd.
1207
01:05:47,568 --> 01:05:50,237
So we knew
they were scouring through the money.
1208
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,824
I said, "Radio,
we're gonna be doing a felony car stop."
1209
01:05:53,824 --> 01:05:55,910
[Mike] We're gonna have to do
a felony stop here.
1210
01:05:55,910 --> 01:05:57,328
I'd like to have more units.
1211
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,123
[Steve] And so Scott, as he pulls up,
we're on a little knoll,
1212
01:06:01,123 --> 01:06:03,459
he pulled up to the street to turn left.
1213
01:06:03,459 --> 01:06:05,836
And as he turned left, I saw the cop cars.
1214
01:06:05,836 --> 01:06:07,296
Three cop cars behind us.
1215
01:06:08,130 --> 01:06:11,342
[Mike] The van coasted to a stop
against the curb.
1216
01:06:11,342 --> 01:06:15,888
As I was getting out of the car
and drawing my pistol and going on target,
1217
01:06:16,931 --> 01:06:21,811
I realized that the suspect
was already out of the van.
1218
01:06:21,811 --> 01:06:24,897
The police have always said we shot first.
It didn't happen that way.
1219
01:06:24,897 --> 01:06:27,650
They were the ones that ambushed us
and began shooting at us.
1220
01:06:27,650 --> 01:06:30,861
Meyers' mouth is moving again,
so he's obviously lying.
1221
01:06:30,861 --> 01:06:32,989
Let me tell you this.
Let me tell you this.
1222
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:38,995
I could see, along the driver's side door,
a silhouette,
1223
01:06:39,620 --> 01:06:42,498
and it was dark,
but I could see they had a rifle.
1224
01:06:43,332 --> 01:06:46,961
And I saw the rifle come down on me.
1225
01:06:46,961 --> 01:06:48,045
[Ellen] I didn't see it.
1226
01:06:48,045 --> 01:06:50,840
I... I could only see
through the front windshield.
1227
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,676
So I never saw anybody get out of the van.
1228
01:06:55,678 --> 01:06:58,764
[Steve] The reason for those guns
wasn't to have a shootout with the cops.
1229
01:06:58,764 --> 01:07:00,141
It was to disarm the vehicle.
1230
01:07:00,933 --> 01:07:03,644
No. That rifle was pointed right at me.
1231
01:07:03,644 --> 01:07:06,230
Everything that I was taught
was kicking in.
1232
01:07:06,814 --> 01:07:09,108
He went down to take aim at me,
1233
01:07:09,108 --> 01:07:10,776
and I thought, "Oh, shit."
1234
01:07:10,776 --> 01:07:13,404
And for some reason
the rifle was not firing.
1235
01:07:13,404 --> 01:07:16,198
And then,
"click, click, click." Three clicks.
1236
01:07:16,198 --> 01:07:17,825
I go, "Oh my God."
1237
01:07:18,826 --> 01:07:22,038
Suddenly the cops started shooting
into the back of the van.
1238
01:07:23,289 --> 01:07:25,916
I could tell my rounds
were going through the back door.
1239
01:07:25,916 --> 01:07:30,504
[Mark] All I remember is getting hit
by a bullet, and getting knocked over.
1240
01:07:30,504 --> 01:07:33,716
Suddenly, my left arm
just starts flying in front of my face.
1241
01:07:33,716 --> 01:07:37,136
"They fucking shot my arm off!
They fucking shot my arm off!"
1242
01:07:37,136 --> 01:07:38,054
I'm screaming.
1243
01:07:38,054 --> 01:07:41,682
And then a little bit further up,
Scott stops again and gets a shotgun.
1244
01:07:42,266 --> 01:07:46,020
When we get to that second location,
a firefight really ensues.
1245
01:07:46,020 --> 01:07:50,524
As I was getting out of the car
to draw down on the van again,
1246
01:07:50,524 --> 01:07:52,568
I heard three of the loudest booms.
1247
01:07:52,568 --> 01:07:54,653
[gunshots]
1248
01:07:54,653 --> 01:07:57,782
[Ellen] There are bullets
whizzing by my head.
1249
01:07:57,782 --> 01:08:00,201
All I could see was glass breaking.
1250
01:08:00,201 --> 01:08:05,873
I didn't have my body armor,
and I am in the middle of a shitstorm.
1251
01:08:06,624 --> 01:08:09,627
I'm trying to communicate
with the FBI office.
1252
01:08:09,627 --> 01:08:11,754
I'm telling 'em, "Shots fired."
1253
01:08:13,380 --> 01:08:15,049
[Mike] The van takes off again.
1254
01:08:15,049 --> 01:08:17,468
[Steve] My left arm
is just floating in the air.
1255
01:08:17,468 --> 01:08:19,553
Biggins is shot in the abdomen.
1256
01:08:19,553 --> 01:08:20,554
Blood everywhere.
1257
01:08:21,138 --> 01:08:23,849
And then suddenly
the van comes to a thud. Boom.
1258
01:08:23,849 --> 01:08:25,059
[van crashes]
1259
01:08:27,728 --> 01:08:30,106
As I lay in the back of the van,
Scott runs off.
1260
01:08:30,106 --> 01:08:32,483
I'm thinking,
"This is what we always spoke about."
1261
01:08:32,483 --> 01:08:34,527
We were all in this on our own.
1262
01:08:35,236 --> 01:08:37,488
[Mike] As I was running
towards the vehicle,
1263
01:08:37,488 --> 01:08:41,742
I'm seeing a silhouette of a body
running south in an alley.
1264
01:08:43,202 --> 01:08:45,579
[Steve] The wipers were going,
it was still in gear,
1265
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:47,832
and Biggins is not saying a word,
1266
01:08:47,832 --> 01:08:50,167
so I don't know
if he's alive or if he's dead.
1267
01:08:50,751 --> 01:08:51,710
And Scott's gone
1268
01:08:51,710 --> 01:08:54,130
and all I could hear
were all the cops yelling,
1269
01:08:54,130 --> 01:08:55,714
"He's gone. He's running over there."
1270
01:08:55,714 --> 01:08:58,050
"Shoot that motherfucker!
Kill him! Kill him!"
1271
01:08:59,426 --> 01:09:01,262
I went to the alley and I... I stopped.
1272
01:09:01,262 --> 01:09:04,807
I thought, "Don't go down this alley.
This is what we call the Fatal Funnel.
1273
01:09:05,933 --> 01:09:08,894
At that point I realized I should back off
and go back to the van
1274
01:09:08,894 --> 01:09:11,856
where other officers
had two suspects down.
1275
01:09:12,481 --> 01:09:14,942
And I saw this white male
down on the ground handcuffed.
1276
01:09:14,942 --> 01:09:16,902
I said, "Who are you? Are you Hollywood?"
1277
01:09:16,902 --> 01:09:19,405
And he says, "No. He ran down the alley."
1278
01:09:19,405 --> 01:09:22,158
I said, "Shoot me, son of a bitch.
You were doing it a minute ago."
1279
01:09:22,158 --> 01:09:24,034
"Just shoot me.
Kill me, get it over with."
1280
01:09:24,535 --> 01:09:28,080
He said, "Don't worry about it.
The courts will take care of your ass."
1281
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:31,458
When he told me to shoot him, I said,
"No. You're not getting out of this one."
1282
01:09:31,458 --> 01:09:32,960
"We beat you at your game."
1283
01:09:35,045 --> 01:09:36,589
[Steve] I didn't want to go to prison.
1284
01:09:36,589 --> 01:09:40,467
I mean, at that point nothing mattered.
Life was over as far as I was concerned.
1285
01:09:41,385 --> 01:09:44,346
And suddenly, the fear
and the pain and all that goes away,
1286
01:09:44,346 --> 01:09:47,224
and I looked in the van
and I saw this pile of money
1287
01:09:47,224 --> 01:09:49,602
and all the bullet holes
that the cops put in the van
1288
01:09:49,602 --> 01:09:51,687
were like laser beams of light.
1289
01:09:53,105 --> 01:09:56,567
And suddenly, this beautiful divine music
came into my head.
1290
01:09:56,567 --> 01:09:58,777
I'd never heard earthly music like it.
1291
01:10:00,196 --> 01:10:03,616
And the money became
almost like this talisman of...
1292
01:10:04,325 --> 01:10:07,870
"What is it? It's a bunch of paper.
Who gives a shit?"
1293
01:10:07,870 --> 01:10:09,747
"Who does what people do
1294
01:10:09,747 --> 01:10:13,292
for this stupid stuff
that has no meaning, really?"
1295
01:10:13,292 --> 01:10:15,377
[ethereal music playing]
1296
01:10:19,506 --> 01:10:22,092
[Mike] The Fire Department
was at the scene treating Biggins,
1297
01:10:22,092 --> 01:10:24,887
and he was motionless
like he was dead on the ground.
1298
01:10:25,804 --> 01:10:28,933
As I was looking at him, the firefighter
looked up at me and he went...
1299
01:10:29,433 --> 01:10:33,312
He gave me a thumbs down. I thought,
"Oh, shit. I just killed somebody."
1300
01:10:33,854 --> 01:10:38,067
I took a deep breath and I said to myself,
"This is something I never thought about."
1301
01:10:39,109 --> 01:10:43,530
I'd been in one previous shooting,
but I was not in a shooting like this.
1302
01:10:43,530 --> 01:10:44,782
This was a shootout.
1303
01:10:47,243 --> 01:10:50,454
[Mark] Outside of the van,
I was in and out of consciousness.
1304
01:10:51,497 --> 01:10:54,667
I remember Mike Magan
opening one of my eyelids,
1305
01:10:54,667 --> 01:10:57,044
checking to see if I was living or dead.
1306
01:10:57,670 --> 01:11:02,216
I remembered having a sense of relief
that it's finally over.
1307
01:11:02,758 --> 01:11:07,388
I can let it go now.
I don't have to live like this anymore.
1308
01:11:10,349 --> 01:11:13,102
[reporter 1] The two men who were shot
were taken into custody
1309
01:11:13,102 --> 01:11:14,853
and then taken to the hospital.
1310
01:11:14,853 --> 01:11:16,647
One man remains at large.
1311
01:11:16,647 --> 01:11:19,483
[reporter 2] Dozens of officers,
FBI agents, K-9 units,
1312
01:11:19,483 --> 01:11:22,486
even the SWAT team
were called in to look for the fugitive.
1313
01:11:22,486 --> 01:11:26,073
Especially if somebody's
still on the loose, that's a scary thing.
1314
01:11:26,073 --> 01:11:27,408
They could be anywhere.
1315
01:11:29,410 --> 01:11:32,913
[Shawn] I follow the ambulance
down to Harborview Hospital.
1316
01:11:33,747 --> 01:11:36,208
I would deal with the crime scene later.
I need to talk to Steve
1317
01:11:36,709 --> 01:11:39,086
and find out who else
we were looking for that night.
1318
01:11:39,086 --> 01:11:42,339
This is it. I'm not putting up with this
anymore. This has gotta be the closure.
1319
01:11:44,425 --> 01:11:46,552
[Steve] In the waiting room
in the hospital,
1320
01:11:46,552 --> 01:11:49,346
Shawn Johnson asked me questions.
1321
01:11:49,346 --> 01:11:53,309
And if you can imagine me being shot up
and I'm in a situation, here we are,
1322
01:11:53,309 --> 01:11:55,728
Scott's on the loose,
I don't know if he's dead or alive,
1323
01:11:57,021 --> 01:11:58,230
Biggins might die.
1324
01:11:59,148 --> 01:12:00,607
Your mind is not clear.
1325
01:12:01,608 --> 01:12:03,944
So I'm trying to protect myself.
1326
01:12:05,237 --> 01:12:07,406
After two hours,
Steve Meyers finally tells me
1327
01:12:07,406 --> 01:12:10,326
that the person I'm looking for
is Scott Scurlock.
1328
01:12:10,951 --> 01:12:12,619
He said Scott Scurlock is Hollywood.
1329
01:12:13,871 --> 01:12:15,456
[dispatch] Seattle Police and Fire 19.
1330
01:12:15,456 --> 01:12:18,667
[man] Yeah, I know they're doing a search
in our neighborhood.
1331
01:12:18,667 --> 01:12:21,337
- [dispatch] Yeah.
- [man] Somebody just pounded on our door.
1332
01:12:21,337 --> 01:12:23,464
[woman 1] There is a canoe
with a tarp over it.
1333
01:12:23,464 --> 01:12:24,381
[dispatch] Uh-huh.
1334
01:12:24,381 --> 01:12:26,592
[woman 1] I don't know
if anybody should check it.
1335
01:12:26,592 --> 01:12:29,887
[woman 2] I didn't see anybody,
but I'm thinking that, um, under my deck
1336
01:12:29,887 --> 01:12:31,347
would be a good hiding place.
1337
01:12:31,847 --> 01:12:35,142
I keep hearing that the officers
are going door-to-door
1338
01:12:35,142 --> 01:12:37,478
throughout the night
and throughout the day,
1339
01:12:37,478 --> 01:12:39,271
trying to find some lead.
1340
01:12:39,271 --> 01:12:40,397
Nothing is turning up.
1341
01:12:40,397 --> 01:12:44,526
[woman 3] I'm just wondering, in my area
there's police all over and helicopters...
1342
01:12:44,526 --> 01:12:46,570
[dispatch] Right,
you need to stay inside, ma'am,
1343
01:12:46,570 --> 01:12:50,115
and, uh, try not to tie up
the emergency lines with calls.
1344
01:12:50,115 --> 01:12:52,242
When I learned that Hollywood had escaped,
1345
01:12:52,242 --> 01:12:56,080
I was angered because so much work
had gone in to try to apprehend him.
1346
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:59,708
The only word that kept coming
to my mind is, "Fuck. Really?"
1347
01:12:59,708 --> 01:13:03,379
Hollywood was right there.
How did he get away?
1348
01:13:04,755 --> 01:13:06,757
[suspenseful music playing]
1349
01:13:09,635 --> 01:13:13,764
[Mike] For the next several hours,
I was walking around with nervous energy
1350
01:13:13,764 --> 01:13:15,265
when my pager went off.
1351
01:13:15,849 --> 01:13:20,020
[man] I think that bank robber might be
hiding in my camper in the backyard.
1352
01:13:20,020 --> 01:13:21,730
[dispatch] And what makes you think that?
1353
01:13:21,730 --> 01:13:24,108
[man] I saw somebody's in there
and it's all locked up
1354
01:13:24,108 --> 01:13:26,110
and nobody's supposed to be in there.
1355
01:13:26,110 --> 01:13:29,530
It was my old partner and he said to me,
1356
01:13:29,530 --> 01:13:33,409
"They have your suspect cornered
right near the shooting scene."
1357
01:13:33,992 --> 01:13:35,994
[dispatch] Could you tell
if it was male or female?
1358
01:13:35,994 --> 01:13:37,621
[man] No, I just saw some dark hair.
1359
01:13:38,205 --> 01:13:41,291
- [dispatch] Okay. How long ago?
- [man] I just came in, right now.
1360
01:13:43,669 --> 01:13:46,088
[Mike] The officers
are dispatched to the camper.
1361
01:13:46,713 --> 01:13:49,049
They're pounding on the camper,
trying to see who's inside.
1362
01:13:49,049 --> 01:13:51,760
So they bust the window
and spray in pepper spray.
1363
01:13:52,344 --> 01:13:54,638
And a moment later
they hear a single gunshot.
1364
01:13:54,638 --> 01:13:55,556
[gunshot]
1365
01:13:55,556 --> 01:13:58,100
[Mike] The officers
fire back into the camper.
1366
01:13:58,100 --> 01:14:05,149
- [gunshots]
- [smashing glass]
1367
01:14:06,275 --> 01:14:09,820
I was told that 76 rounds
had been fired into the camper
1368
01:14:09,820 --> 01:14:11,822
by officers who were at the scene.
1369
01:14:14,491 --> 01:14:15,576
{\an8}[David] Good evening.
1370
01:14:15,576 --> 01:14:17,995
{\an8}Thanksgiving has been interrupted
for dozens of families.
1371
01:14:17,995 --> 01:14:19,204
It's a police standoff,
1372
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and the suspect may be
the bank robber known as Hollywood.
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[reporter] Right now,
Hollywood the bank robber,
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01:14:24,460 --> 01:14:27,463
one of the luckiest,
most prolific in the country,
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01:14:27,463 --> 01:14:29,214
looks like his luck has run out.
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[tense music playing]
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[Mike] As I was arriving,
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01:14:34,052 --> 01:14:36,472
Seattle police
was getting there simultaneously
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01:14:36,472 --> 01:14:39,391
with their armored vehicles
and setting up a command post.
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01:14:39,892 --> 01:14:42,603
[Shawn] We had helicopters.
We had armored vehicles.
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01:14:43,270 --> 01:14:46,815
There were probably a couple of hundred
law enforcement officers there that day.
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01:14:46,815 --> 01:14:48,734
I'd never seen such a huge response.
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01:14:48,734 --> 01:14:50,152
This is Thanksgiving Day.
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01:14:50,152 --> 01:14:53,447
The whole city is at home
with their families
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01:14:53,447 --> 01:14:56,408
and able to watch what's happening on TV.
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01:14:57,326 --> 01:14:59,536
Not only does
the entire neighborhood come out,
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but if you live near that neighborhood,
you come out.
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01:15:02,372 --> 01:15:04,541
People come to see what is happening,
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01:15:04,541 --> 01:15:07,211
especially when something
that's almost like a movie
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is so close to their homes.
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[David] I mean,
a quiet North Seattle neighborhood,
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01:15:12,424 --> 01:15:16,303
and you have hundreds of police,
the SWAT team.
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All this happening on Thanksgiving.
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A Thanksgiving
that nobody's going to forget.
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01:15:21,850 --> 01:15:24,102
Our last of our guests were leaving
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01:15:24,102 --> 01:15:27,397
and I got a call
from my Aunt Helen who lives in Seattle,
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and she was hysterical.
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[reporter] Our top story...
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[Suzanne] It was all over the Seattle news
that there was this police shootout
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01:15:34,196 --> 01:15:36,823
with this bandit named Scott Scurlock,
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01:15:36,823 --> 01:15:40,285
and there's a SWAT team
around this little trailer
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01:15:40,285 --> 01:15:42,287
in this lady's backyard.
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01:15:42,287 --> 01:15:46,959
And then I, at that point, sat down
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01:15:46,959 --> 01:15:50,963
and just said... [exhales] "Whoa. Whoa."
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01:15:50,963 --> 01:15:52,631
It was just so mind-blowing
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01:15:53,340 --> 01:15:57,594
to find out that he's been robbing banks
for five years.
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01:15:58,512 --> 01:16:00,180
{\an8}[reporter 1] People are
out of their homes,
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01:16:00,180 --> 01:16:03,642
{\an8}their Thanksgiving disrupted
by this, uh, police manhunt
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01:16:03,642 --> 01:16:05,185
{\an8}that has been going on now
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{\an8}for more than 24 hours
in this neighborhood.
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{\an8}[reporter 2] Police and FBI agents
have been in standoff mode,
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{\an8}guns drawn, and negotiators in place.
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[David] The standoff is still underway.
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We know that shots have been fired.
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01:16:17,447 --> 01:16:20,867
They've been banging on the door.
They've tried to contact him. They can't.
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01:16:22,244 --> 01:16:24,663
They wanted this to end
in the way they wanted it to end.
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They weren't gonna take any chances.
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{\an8}[Shawn] And after two hours of no response
we decided to make entry into the camper.
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[tense music playing]
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[Shawn] I walk in with the Tactical Team.
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We found a body underneath the table.
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I had a picture with me. I look down.
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[tense music continues]
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Scott.
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At that point, I knew that it was...
We had him.
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And turned out that he had killed himself.
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That first shot the officers heard
was him killing himself.
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[reporter] Good evening.
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{\an8}A suspected bank robber who died yesterday
during a standoff with police
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apparently killed himself.
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{\an8}[David] Scott Scurlock,
who police dubbed Hollywood,
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{\an8}was found dead in a camper last night...
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{\an8}[Steve] I woke up the next morning
in the hospital and the TV was going
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and the news was carpeted with us,
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and my name and Scott Scurlock
from Olympia, Washington, deceased.
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A self-inflicted wound.
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And, uh, I kind of looked and I just go...
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"Thank God," you know.
I just said, "Thank God."
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The shootout was the end.
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Not only the end of our endeavors,
but the end of a certain life that I had.
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We were like two comets that came together
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and we met up and we started flying
through the fucking universe
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and suddenly, boom!
It's all busted up in one second.
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It's gone.
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[Ellen] I feel like this episode
tested me in every possible way.
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I was thinking about my kids
when the shooting started,
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and wondering, you know,
am I doing the right thing
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by doing this job
when there's a lot of other jobs
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I could be doing in the FBI?
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[somber music playing]
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[Mike] A day doesn't go by
where you don't think about it.
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My only question to him would probably be,
"Why did you take your life?"
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And I'll quote Mark Twain,
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and Mark Twain said
that he would never wish death upon a man,
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but he's read some obituaries
with great pleasure.
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[Shawn] The major regret I have
in this investigation
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is the fact I never got
to sit down with Scott
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and talk to him face-to-face, man-to-man.
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If I had been in the vehicle that night,
in front of that pursuit line,
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would I have done what Mike did,
shoot into the back of that van? No.
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There's always another day to catch him.
Seriously, there's always another day.
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[somber music continues]
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[camera clicking]
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[Suzanne] It was heartbreaking
for the whole family.
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It was almost like a...
like a double whammy of... of,
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"Whoa. He was doing what?
He ended up here?"
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My father adored Scott
and was heartbroken.
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Not only that we lost him.
We also lost who we thought he was.
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[Scott's father] I miss
being able to love him.
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I miss being loved by him.
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And he really genuinely loved me.
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I don't think
there's any question about that at all.
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And I loved him dearly.
No matter what he was like.
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The number of secrets he had
about the life he had been leading
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were so huge
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that if he had walked out of that trailer,
put his hands in the air, and surrendered,
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he would have had to have faced
his entire world.
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And I honestly believe
that the last decade of his life,
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he was making choices that he knew
were gonna come down to a dead end.
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[Steven] I received a call.
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"Scotty's died.
He died in a bank robbery."
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My mind immediately went into,
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"He was trying to stop the bank robbery.
He was being the hero."
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{\an8}And so I asked the question. "Well,
how did he die in the bank robbery?"
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{\an8}And the answer came back
that he was the bank robber.
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It felt like my heart
and my brain exploded.
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[Steve] When I was in prison,
Mustang visited me four or five times.
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She would always come on the anniversary,
the day before Thanksgiving.
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She'd always think of Scott.
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And I got a letter from her sister,
said that she'd committed suicide.
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She just couldn't bear the fact
that all that she'd been involved with
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over the years with Scott and me,
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and that suddenly he's dead
and I'm in prison for all these years,
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and that she is walking free.
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It's like, she's not walking free
in her own soul.
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I don't think she believed
she was walking free.
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{\an8}[T.J.] Steve Meyers,
who used to go to Shakespeare plays
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{\an8}with my husband and I.
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{\an8}He's going to prison.
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We have Mark Biggins.
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Sensitive guy. Poet, guitar player.
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He's going to prison. Blows my mind.
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People always say,
"Oh, you knew the guy in the Treehouse?"
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"You knew Hollywood?"
I'd go, "Hey, I didn't know Hollywood."
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"I knew Scott Scurlock."
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[Mark] Scott and I
had several discussions about,
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"What are you gonna do if we get caught?"
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And he would always, always say,
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"I'm not going to prison.
I'm gonna head for the white light."
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I've read the victim impact statements
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01:21:51,615 --> 01:21:57,495
and some bank tellers and some customers
in the bank were... were truly traumatized
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01:21:57,495 --> 01:22:02,918
by the... the whole experience,
and that I regret sincerely.
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[somber music continues]
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[T.J.] Scott had a T-shirt
that said "Live Free or Die."
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And I think he spent a lot of years
figuring out how to live free.
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01:22:15,305 --> 01:22:16,306
But in the end,
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he died and he wasn't free.
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[Steve] After his death,
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the Treehouse died
within a year, a year and a half.
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01:22:29,861 --> 01:22:31,279
It crumbled and fell.
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01:22:31,780 --> 01:22:36,368
I mean, this tree house and Scott
were one soul, inseparable.
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01:22:37,077 --> 01:22:38,954
And Scott's death was its death.
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01:22:40,997 --> 01:22:42,499
And it had to be that way.
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01:22:45,627 --> 01:22:49,297
[Mark] After being released from prison,
I went back to the Treehouse.
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01:22:50,215 --> 01:22:51,675
It looked like a shipwreck.
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01:22:52,175 --> 01:22:54,719
It was just a pile of timber.
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01:22:55,470 --> 01:23:00,141
And I took some of Scott's ashes
and spread them and said goodbye, finally.
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01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,480
[Scott] I have just finished
reading my whole diary
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01:23:05,480 --> 01:23:07,482
and it seems like a thing of the past.
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01:23:09,192 --> 01:23:11,319
I feel like a completely different person.
1531
01:23:12,862 --> 01:23:14,322
So many things have happened to me
1532
01:23:14,322 --> 01:23:16,616
that there's no way
I could write them all down.
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01:23:19,244 --> 01:23:22,414
My mind seems to be farther than my body
from the earth below.
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01:23:24,457 --> 01:23:26,793
I feel excited but scared.
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01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:32,757
It is a time of new beginnings.
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01:23:41,641 --> 01:23:43,643
[soft rock music playing]
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[music fades]