1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:31,553 --> 00:00:36,558 I've been called a witch, a slut, and a murderer. 4 00:00:48,135 --> 00:00:50,006 I've been hounded by the police 5 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,530 and slandered in the press. 6 00:00:57,361 --> 00:01:00,321 Maybe people confuse me with the characters 7 00:01:00,321 --> 00:01:01,713 I played in films. 8 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:14,683 Like I'm an empty sign 9 00:01:14,683 --> 00:01:17,642 on to which they project their fantasies 10 00:01:18,643 --> 00:01:20,297 and their shortcomings. 11 00:01:28,479 --> 00:01:30,612 But I don't need to settle scores. 12 00:01:33,005 --> 00:01:35,051 I'm reclaiming my soul. 13 00:01:48,934 --> 00:01:50,414 I write as a woman 14 00:01:50,414 --> 00:01:53,025 searching for another adventure. 15 00:02:04,820 --> 00:02:07,431 We're not a nostalgic family in any way. 16 00:02:11,043 --> 00:02:12,567 Yes, we had some great times, 17 00:02:12,567 --> 00:02:14,917 and some were not that great. 18 00:02:16,223 --> 00:02:18,964 But we don't reminisce about those sort of times. 19 00:02:19,965 --> 00:02:21,750 It just wasn't in our nature. 20 00:02:23,882 --> 00:02:25,449 My mother, especially, 21 00:02:25,449 --> 00:02:28,757 is not someone who'd dwell in the past at all. 22 00:02:30,193 --> 00:02:31,412 Melancholy. 23 00:02:31,412 --> 00:02:33,457 Anita never suffered from that sort of thing 24 00:02:33,457 --> 00:02:35,894 or at least never appeared outwardly. 25 00:02:35,894 --> 00:02:38,506 She was just like, "Yeah, well, that was that. Let's move on." 26 00:02:40,812 --> 00:02:43,206 So when she died, me and my children 27 00:02:43,206 --> 00:02:45,556 started going through documents and drawers 28 00:02:45,556 --> 00:02:47,689 to try to find legal papers. 29 00:02:47,950 --> 00:02:51,736 And I was really shocked to find Anita's manuscript 30 00:02:52,433 --> 00:02:54,565 right there perfectly typed in the box. 31 00:02:57,220 --> 00:02:58,395 Quite astonishing. 32 00:03:01,616 --> 00:03:04,749 It was important that eventually she said something. 33 00:03:04,749 --> 00:03:06,186 And that's what it is. 34 00:03:07,970 --> 00:03:11,103 Her intention was not to be a housewife 35 00:03:11,103 --> 00:03:13,149 or the wife of anyone really. 36 00:03:13,802 --> 00:03:15,195 Not even Keith's. 37 00:03:17,371 --> 00:03:19,895 She had bigger balls than any of them did, probably, 38 00:03:19,895 --> 00:03:21,157 in a lot of ways. 39 00:03:26,641 --> 00:03:30,906 I mean, Anita, she was a unique piece of work. 40 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,215 I mean, I've never quite figured it all out. 41 00:03:38,174 --> 00:03:40,089 Basically, I was trying to keep up with her 42 00:03:40,089 --> 00:03:41,743 most of the time. 43 00:03:42,700 --> 00:03:45,529 And the most of the time, it was fun. 44 00:04:00,718 --> 00:04:03,068 This isn't really an autobiography. 45 00:04:08,073 --> 00:04:10,554 It's more like memory images. 46 00:04:13,035 --> 00:04:15,472 A traveler's tale through a landscape 47 00:04:15,472 --> 00:04:18,301 of dreams and shadows. 48 00:04:21,696 --> 00:04:25,003 I don't think the lawyers will like it very much. 49 00:04:40,105 --> 00:04:42,673 We had no secrets with each other. 50 00:04:43,326 --> 00:04:47,069 Anita and I, we had quite an intense friendship. 51 00:04:48,418 --> 00:04:50,638 As soon as we saw each other, you know, 52 00:04:50,638 --> 00:04:53,510 we rushed to each other and hugged each other. 53 00:04:53,510 --> 00:04:59,037 And, for her, it was so easy and uncomplicated 54 00:04:59,037 --> 00:05:02,171 because it was kind of understood from the beginning, 55 00:05:02,171 --> 00:05:04,478 there's no sex between us. 56 00:05:04,782 --> 00:05:10,353 So let's find a different kind of relationship. 57 00:05:14,662 --> 00:05:17,317 I was looking for an actress 58 00:05:17,665 --> 00:05:19,754 that wouldn't look like an actress. 59 00:05:21,190 --> 00:05:26,326 I asked a fashion photographer whether he knew anybody. 60 00:05:26,326 --> 00:05:28,110 And he said, "Yes, I do." 61 00:05:28,719 --> 00:05:32,332 "I just photographed her on the highest German mountain, 62 00:05:32,332 --> 00:05:33,594 the Zugspitze, 63 00:05:33,898 --> 00:05:36,858 and she's absolutely incredible and wild." 64 00:05:38,076 --> 00:05:40,252 Anita had vulnerability. 65 00:05:40,644 --> 00:05:44,256 Even though she was like a tough cookie, 66 00:05:44,779 --> 00:05:47,477 there was a really, like, an earnest quality 67 00:05:47,477 --> 00:05:48,565 in her as well. 68 00:05:49,305 --> 00:05:51,786 I thought if she remains 69 00:05:51,786 --> 00:05:55,180 as natural as possible in front of the camera, 70 00:05:55,180 --> 00:05:56,399 so much the better. 71 00:06:01,230 --> 00:06:05,408 I was extremely close friends with Anita, 72 00:06:05,974 --> 00:06:07,758 but I always wondered 73 00:06:07,758 --> 00:06:09,673 whether she had any family. 74 00:06:09,673 --> 00:06:13,111 I never really knew what was with her father, 75 00:06:13,111 --> 00:06:14,591 what was with her mother. 76 00:06:14,591 --> 00:06:17,638 Did she have a sister or a brother? 77 00:06:18,247 --> 00:06:20,336 She would never speak about it. 78 00:07:00,724 --> 00:07:02,422 [in English] I was always a wild child, 79 00:07:02,726 --> 00:07:03,727 rebellious, 80 00:07:04,467 --> 00:07:06,338 causing my family problems. 81 00:07:10,125 --> 00:07:12,257 They said acting was for prostitutes. 82 00:07:12,867 --> 00:07:15,130 That I'd dirtied the Pallenberg name. 83 00:07:18,002 --> 00:07:20,091 My father was a classical musician. 84 00:07:22,833 --> 00:07:25,488 My mother did everything she could to please him. 85 00:07:28,535 --> 00:07:31,581 My great-grandfather was the painter Arnold Bocklin. 86 00:07:34,018 --> 00:07:36,543 Famous for his paintings of bestial satyrs 87 00:07:37,413 --> 00:07:38,719 and sleeping nymphs. 88 00:07:40,634 --> 00:07:42,462 Bohemian aristocracy. 89 00:07:46,814 --> 00:07:49,556 We lost everything during the war. 90 00:07:52,994 --> 00:07:54,996 My earliest memories are hearing airplanes 91 00:07:54,996 --> 00:07:56,301 dropping bombs. 92 00:08:00,871 --> 00:08:02,438 I didn't learn to walk, 93 00:08:03,570 --> 00:08:04,701 I ran. 94 00:08:11,839 --> 00:08:13,884 We were moved around in cattle cars. 95 00:08:16,017 --> 00:08:19,281 Sliding doors, chaos, heat. 96 00:08:26,418 --> 00:08:28,377 It affected me deeply. 97 00:08:35,123 --> 00:08:37,168 The war in Rome, 98 00:08:37,821 --> 00:08:39,475 it was a terrible period. 99 00:08:40,432 --> 00:08:43,435 So repressive in all senses. 100 00:08:44,915 --> 00:08:49,093 And the situation at Anita's home was the same. 101 00:08:50,442 --> 00:08:52,880 The parents, they were old-fashioned. 102 00:08:53,271 --> 00:08:54,751 Very conservative. 103 00:08:56,057 --> 00:08:57,885 No hugging, no kissing, 104 00:08:57,885 --> 00:09:01,410 no hotness of the heart. 105 00:09:02,367 --> 00:09:05,414 And I think that Anita really couldn't stand it. 106 00:09:05,414 --> 00:09:07,285 It was not for her. 107 00:09:07,285 --> 00:09:08,896 She was done in a different way. 108 00:09:08,896 --> 00:09:12,290 She wanted to be hugged, she wanted to have affection. 109 00:09:12,290 --> 00:09:14,597 She wanted to feel things. 110 00:09:14,858 --> 00:09:16,338 She loved to feel things. 111 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,865 Anita and I were going in the same school, 112 00:09:21,865 --> 00:09:23,388 the German school. 113 00:09:24,564 --> 00:09:25,782 We had nuns. 114 00:09:25,782 --> 00:09:28,132 German nuns. Can you imagine? 115 00:09:29,220 --> 00:09:30,874 Of course, you want to break the rules. 116 00:09:30,874 --> 00:09:34,356 And in the night, four, five, six of us going up 117 00:09:34,356 --> 00:09:37,620 and trying to smoke cigarettes at 16, you know? 118 00:09:37,620 --> 00:09:39,056 And they got us. 119 00:09:42,756 --> 00:09:45,323 We were the devils. 120 00:09:47,978 --> 00:09:51,416 Anita was my teacher in everything. Always. 121 00:09:52,461 --> 00:09:54,202 She loved Fats Domino. 122 00:09:54,724 --> 00:09:58,206 And she taught me how to do rock and roll 123 00:09:58,206 --> 00:10:00,730 with that one, two, three, four, one, two, three, four. 124 00:10:00,730 --> 00:10:02,471 And showing with the feet. 125 00:10:02,471 --> 00:10:04,255 Dancing and pulling and pushing. 126 00:10:05,692 --> 00:10:06,823 ♪ She's my boogie woogie baby ♪ 127 00:10:06,823 --> 00:10:09,521 She was my myth. I wanted to be her. 128 00:10:09,521 --> 00:10:11,045 I want to be Anita. 129 00:10:11,045 --> 00:10:13,656 ♪ Boogie-woogie, baby Boogie all the time ♪ 130 00:10:13,656 --> 00:10:15,919 She was a sparkle. 131 00:10:15,919 --> 00:10:17,660 She was sparkling, you know? 132 00:10:17,660 --> 00:10:19,662 Where she was walking, it was going tick, tick, 133 00:10:19,662 --> 00:10:23,797 tick, tick of sparkles of the eyes she had. 134 00:10:23,797 --> 00:10:26,713 The way she was looking. The smile she was having. 135 00:10:26,713 --> 00:10:28,105 The way she was moving. 136 00:10:28,105 --> 00:10:29,759 The way she moves. 137 00:10:30,542 --> 00:10:31,979 This was Anita. 138 00:10:37,637 --> 00:10:42,032 America, because of the jeans, the music, the rock and roll, 139 00:10:42,032 --> 00:10:45,470 America, of course, it was the dreamland to go. 140 00:10:45,470 --> 00:10:48,125 We really wanted to go to America. 141 00:10:48,125 --> 00:10:49,213 All of us. 142 00:10:51,738 --> 00:10:55,219 At 19, I escaped to New York. 143 00:10:58,266 --> 00:10:59,702 I hardly spoke any English, 144 00:10:59,702 --> 00:11:02,836 but when I got there, I had an awakening. 145 00:11:10,713 --> 00:11:14,543 It was 1963, the year President Kennedy was shot. 146 00:11:21,071 --> 00:11:22,812 With a few addresses in my pocket 147 00:11:22,812 --> 00:11:25,293 and some Italian charm, 148 00:11:25,859 --> 00:11:27,687 I slid into the downtown scene. 149 00:11:32,779 --> 00:11:35,695 I washed Jasper Johns' brushes. 150 00:11:38,262 --> 00:11:39,786 I met Andy Warhol 151 00:11:40,395 --> 00:11:41,788 and his rabbits. 152 00:11:47,663 --> 00:11:50,100 At a party, Allen Ginsberg collected pubic hair 153 00:11:50,100 --> 00:11:51,362 from famous people. 154 00:11:53,582 --> 00:11:54,844 He didn't ask me. 155 00:11:59,806 --> 00:12:02,939 I loved the feeling of culture exploding. 156 00:12:05,463 --> 00:12:06,856 Being in New York, 157 00:12:06,856 --> 00:12:09,816 Anita and I were great friends 158 00:12:09,816 --> 00:12:12,514 and hung out always together. 159 00:12:13,254 --> 00:12:16,126 We were grooving along in our own scene. 160 00:12:16,431 --> 00:12:20,827 And she quickly became a very close friend. 161 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,745 I came from this artistic family as well... 162 00:12:26,049 --> 00:12:28,225 ...so we had that in common. 163 00:12:29,444 --> 00:12:32,969 Anita had an amazing life force 164 00:12:32,969 --> 00:12:35,755 an amazing joie de vivre, you know? 165 00:12:37,060 --> 00:12:39,628 She had a view about the arts, 166 00:12:39,628 --> 00:12:42,326 about pop art, about a lot of things. 167 00:12:43,850 --> 00:12:47,418 And, I mean, who could look like Anita? 168 00:13:09,876 --> 00:13:12,226 I was never a serious model. 169 00:13:13,836 --> 00:13:16,708 I hated the hairdresser, false eyelashes, 170 00:13:17,057 --> 00:13:18,232 and all that shit. 171 00:13:20,321 --> 00:13:22,671 But modeling sent me all over the world. 172 00:13:23,759 --> 00:13:24,934 And it was in Munich 173 00:13:24,934 --> 00:13:27,023 that I first met The Rolling Stones. 174 00:13:28,764 --> 00:13:30,026 It was 1965. 175 00:13:37,860 --> 00:13:40,080 ♪ I wanna Tell you something, baby ♪ 176 00:13:41,037 --> 00:13:43,213 Mick wasn't dancing in those days. 177 00:13:44,519 --> 00:13:46,129 He was still playing maracas. 178 00:13:49,567 --> 00:13:51,395 Keith was really shy. 179 00:13:56,444 --> 00:13:58,141 ♪ 'Cause it's alright ♪ 180 00:13:58,141 --> 00:13:59,926 ♪ Yeah, it's alright ♪ 181 00:13:59,926 --> 00:14:01,841 The concert was wild. 182 00:14:02,145 --> 00:14:03,973 ♪ It's alright ♪ 183 00:14:03,973 --> 00:14:05,932 Police had to push the audience back. 184 00:14:12,939 --> 00:14:15,289 Mick got so scared, he had to hide. 185 00:14:18,074 --> 00:14:20,207 I loved every minute of it. 186 00:14:24,951 --> 00:14:26,953 It sounds ridiculous, I know, 187 00:14:26,953 --> 00:14:29,956 but my friends dared me to kidnap one of them. 188 00:14:39,052 --> 00:14:40,749 I got backstage 189 00:14:40,749 --> 00:14:42,969 and noticed Brian Jones right away. 190 00:14:44,796 --> 00:14:47,408 He was the most beautiful one in the group. 191 00:14:48,104 --> 00:14:50,324 And he had striking intelligence. 192 00:14:51,064 --> 00:14:54,545 I offered the band some hash and Brian said yes. 193 00:14:55,372 --> 00:14:57,026 No need for kidnapping. 194 00:15:05,556 --> 00:15:07,167 We became inseparable. 195 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,780 Everybody said we looked like twins. 196 00:15:15,131 --> 00:15:19,875 Yeah, I believe that two people can fall in love very quickly. 197 00:15:20,658 --> 00:15:22,747 And I think they can find out about each other 198 00:15:22,747 --> 00:15:24,271 very quickly if they're in love. 199 00:15:25,663 --> 00:15:27,100 My doppelganger. 200 00:15:27,752 --> 00:15:28,928 My Brian. 201 00:15:31,495 --> 00:15:33,236 It was time to leave New York. 202 00:15:38,633 --> 00:15:40,243 When we moved in together, 203 00:15:40,243 --> 00:15:43,855 our flat in London became a crash pad for everybody. 204 00:15:52,777 --> 00:15:54,823 Brian had got this apartment 205 00:15:55,171 --> 00:15:58,261 with his new girlfriend, Anita. 206 00:16:01,264 --> 00:16:03,919 Anita was, even to us, 207 00:16:03,919 --> 00:16:07,183 who've been around. She was incredibly intriguing. 208 00:16:08,358 --> 00:16:10,186 It was difficult to put into words. 209 00:16:11,231 --> 00:16:14,974 Her knowledge of things was just fantastic, you know? 210 00:16:17,585 --> 00:16:20,327 I found myself going round to Brian's more and more, 211 00:16:22,677 --> 00:16:25,636 and not to see Brian, of course, but to see Anita. 212 00:16:31,033 --> 00:16:33,818 The flat was an incredible mess. 213 00:16:34,602 --> 00:16:36,386 They never decorated it. 214 00:16:38,258 --> 00:16:41,652 I don't know what we all found so fascinating. 215 00:16:42,740 --> 00:16:44,916 I think it must have been Anita. 216 00:16:48,746 --> 00:16:52,011 She really brought something to The Stones. 217 00:16:53,969 --> 00:16:55,753 She was only 23 218 00:16:56,972 --> 00:16:58,800 but I was only 18. 219 00:17:04,023 --> 00:17:07,635 ♪ He walks along Singing his fairy song ♪ 220 00:17:07,635 --> 00:17:10,029 ♪ Picking up magic That grows at his feet ♪ 221 00:17:10,029 --> 00:17:11,465 I was making music. 222 00:17:11,856 --> 00:17:13,771 And I was acting. 223 00:17:16,252 --> 00:17:18,298 And I fell in love with Mick. 224 00:17:19,734 --> 00:17:23,999 But neither Anita nor I wanted to be with them 225 00:17:23,999 --> 00:17:26,523 because we wanted some of their power. 226 00:17:29,178 --> 00:17:31,137 We had our own power. 227 00:17:39,058 --> 00:17:41,364 You know, Anita broke through 228 00:17:41,625 --> 00:17:43,540 a sort of very sexist time. 229 00:17:44,846 --> 00:17:50,591 And she demanded that people follow on her terms 230 00:17:50,591 --> 00:17:53,289 rather than on anybody else's terms. 231 00:17:54,508 --> 00:17:57,685 And her influence was a tremendous one, 232 00:17:58,642 --> 00:18:01,689 especially on Brian. 233 00:18:03,256 --> 00:18:07,042 You know, she got him far more sophisticated than he was. 234 00:18:10,089 --> 00:18:14,832 By then, I was in London, playing in a pop band. 235 00:18:16,007 --> 00:18:19,359 I was part of the whole Rolling Stones scene, 236 00:18:20,273 --> 00:18:25,060 and that's when the psychedelics come in, 237 00:18:25,495 --> 00:18:27,236 where suddenly there's this 238 00:18:27,236 --> 00:18:30,413 whole other dimension that opened up. 239 00:18:42,817 --> 00:18:46,037 We started doing acid and I stopped modeling. 240 00:18:47,387 --> 00:18:51,173 You couldn't do both, and I loved acid. 241 00:19:15,502 --> 00:19:17,373 But things got a little spooky 242 00:19:17,373 --> 00:19:19,506 when Brian started to have bad trips. 243 00:19:22,248 --> 00:19:24,511 He saw monsters falling out of the cupboards 244 00:19:24,511 --> 00:19:26,165 and enemies everywhere. 245 00:19:34,651 --> 00:19:36,262 He had terrible asthma 246 00:19:36,566 --> 00:19:38,394 and he started taking amphetamines. 247 00:19:38,873 --> 00:19:43,617 STP, Mandrax, barbiturates, Dexedrine, 248 00:19:44,748 --> 00:19:46,620 all prescription fucking shit. 249 00:19:49,275 --> 00:19:51,277 We are in the swimming pool of a motel 250 00:19:51,277 --> 00:19:54,105 which happened to be by the roadside and... 251 00:19:54,105 --> 00:19:56,020 He started to become aggressive. 252 00:19:56,020 --> 00:19:59,894 Some typical Georgia idiot, you know? 253 00:19:59,894 --> 00:20:02,940 And Georgia is full of idiots. 254 00:20:02,940 --> 00:20:04,594 man: Anything that you'd like to say right now 255 00:20:04,594 --> 00:20:06,509 - before the camera rolls out? - Goodbye. 256 00:20:06,509 --> 00:20:08,119 - Goodbye. - Goodbye. 257 00:20:10,165 --> 00:20:12,733 His sudden rages scared me. 258 00:20:13,995 --> 00:20:16,084 I had to learn to stand my ground. 259 00:20:20,088 --> 00:20:21,307 He would hit her. 260 00:20:22,699 --> 00:20:24,440 It was really awful. 261 00:20:26,225 --> 00:20:28,183 And Anita fought back. 262 00:20:29,184 --> 00:20:31,404 She would just punch him straight back 263 00:20:31,665 --> 00:20:33,493 and really hurt Brian, 264 00:20:33,493 --> 00:20:35,234 'cause he was quite weedy. 265 00:20:38,802 --> 00:20:41,240 Brian was very weak, you know? 266 00:20:42,371 --> 00:20:44,678 That's why he was so cruel and 267 00:20:44,678 --> 00:20:46,636 physically violent, I think. 268 00:20:49,204 --> 00:20:51,250 But she never complained, no. 269 00:20:52,033 --> 00:20:53,426 She just got on with it. 270 00:21:00,563 --> 00:21:02,652 When I was sent my first film script, 271 00:21:02,957 --> 00:21:05,568 he was so jealous he ripped it up. 272 00:21:07,309 --> 00:21:08,571 man: 273 00:21:08,571 --> 00:21:10,051 I did it anyway. 274 00:21:11,095 --> 00:21:14,403 man: 275 00:21:14,403 --> 00:21:16,710 I'd read in a newspaper 276 00:21:16,710 --> 00:21:19,278 an article about a prostitute 277 00:21:20,191 --> 00:21:23,238 who, in a brawl, had killed her pimp... 278 00:21:35,729 --> 00:21:38,079 ...and felt no guilt about it, 279 00:21:41,561 --> 00:21:43,737 so she hired two guys. 280 00:21:46,609 --> 00:21:48,263 The three of them drive 281 00:21:48,263 --> 00:21:50,831 to the countryside to dispose of the corpse. 282 00:21:54,443 --> 00:21:56,184 [in English] But they have such a good time 283 00:21:56,184 --> 00:21:57,141 in the countryside 284 00:21:57,577 --> 00:21:59,056 that they forget about the guy in the trunk. 285 00:22:15,290 --> 00:22:16,683 On the windshield, 286 00:22:16,683 --> 00:22:18,598 we had written on a little paper, 287 00:22:18,598 --> 00:22:20,730 "Fuck the message." 288 00:22:20,730 --> 00:22:23,124 Meaning this movie has no meaning. 289 00:22:25,735 --> 00:22:28,477 I was very surprised when one day, 290 00:22:28,477 --> 00:22:30,436 she showed up with Brian Jones 291 00:22:31,088 --> 00:22:33,352 in the small town of Munich, a Stone. 292 00:22:35,136 --> 00:22:38,008 It was obvious that Brian was very much 293 00:22:38,008 --> 00:22:40,533 depending on her affection. 294 00:22:41,229 --> 00:22:42,970 He was very insecure. 295 00:22:44,972 --> 00:22:47,757 Anita told me that 296 00:22:49,237 --> 00:22:51,805 Brian would like to do the music for the film. 297 00:22:51,805 --> 00:22:53,763 Of course, I said yes. 298 00:22:54,547 --> 00:22:56,897 If you are offered a Rolling Stone 299 00:22:56,897 --> 00:22:59,682 to score your movie, in those days, 300 00:22:59,682 --> 00:23:02,598 I mean, you triple the value of your film. 301 00:23:05,122 --> 00:23:08,648 At first, he was very, very serious about it 302 00:23:08,952 --> 00:23:10,954 and he had wonderful ideas. 303 00:23:12,782 --> 00:23:14,697 But two months later, 304 00:23:14,697 --> 00:23:16,917 we could hardly get him to the studio. 305 00:23:18,571 --> 00:23:22,226 He had somehow lost it. 306 00:23:24,185 --> 00:23:25,752 Keith was there, 307 00:23:25,752 --> 00:23:27,754 but probably to play the guitar, 308 00:23:28,058 --> 00:23:32,106 and he saw how everything was going down the drain. 309 00:23:33,281 --> 00:23:35,457 He started to give a hand 310 00:23:35,457 --> 00:23:38,460 and more and more took over. 311 00:23:40,897 --> 00:23:45,119 Things have been running a little fray in the band, 312 00:23:46,207 --> 00:23:50,124 so I thought I'd sort of mend fences with Brian. 313 00:23:52,300 --> 00:23:54,345 And at the same time, I have to admit, 314 00:23:54,345 --> 00:23:56,609 I found Anita fascinating. 315 00:23:58,524 --> 00:24:00,613 There's that thing across the room, you know? 316 00:24:00,613 --> 00:24:03,659 The elephant in the room. Hmm. 317 00:24:07,141 --> 00:24:09,839 At that time, the band, to me, was, uh... 318 00:24:09,839 --> 00:24:11,232 It was my baby. 319 00:24:13,277 --> 00:24:16,498 So, you know, it's a very delicate situation. 320 00:24:25,638 --> 00:24:27,988 When Keith was there, Brian wouldn't hit me. 321 00:24:29,598 --> 00:24:31,252 So thank God for Keith. 322 00:24:33,472 --> 00:24:35,822 Looking after Brian became so difficult, 323 00:24:36,170 --> 00:24:37,824 I ended up downing vodka and... 324 00:24:38,215 --> 00:24:39,913 God knows what else every night. 325 00:24:49,183 --> 00:24:50,532 Trouble was coming. 326 00:24:52,403 --> 00:24:55,494 Brian swallowed drugs in front of a reporter 327 00:24:55,885 --> 00:24:57,583 and set off a wave of busts. 328 00:24:59,976 --> 00:25:02,892 reporter: A national newspaper had tipped off the police 329 00:25:02,892 --> 00:25:04,372 that it would be worth their while 330 00:25:04,372 --> 00:25:05,982 to raid Richards' home for drugs. 331 00:25:05,982 --> 00:25:09,595 Jones admitted that he'd allowed his flat in Courtfield Road 332 00:25:09,595 --> 00:25:11,118 to be used for drug taking. 333 00:25:11,118 --> 00:25:12,554 reporter: The jury have had to decide 334 00:25:12,554 --> 00:25:14,338 did Keith Richard know of the LSD, 335 00:25:14,338 --> 00:25:16,166 which police found in his jacket pocket. 336 00:25:17,777 --> 00:25:20,475 I got busted with Mick in my house. 337 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,825 It was an acid trip. 338 00:25:22,825 --> 00:25:24,914 I mean, we were all just coming down. 339 00:25:24,914 --> 00:25:27,177 There's a knock at the door. 340 00:25:28,614 --> 00:25:29,876 It was the law. 341 00:25:32,052 --> 00:25:35,925 So we've been busted, and now we're out on bail. 342 00:25:35,925 --> 00:25:37,100 And, uh... 343 00:25:37,536 --> 00:25:44,281 run away was our first, you know, manly response. 344 00:25:44,281 --> 00:25:48,459 So that was-- Let's run away just for a bit, 345 00:25:48,459 --> 00:25:51,027 until we have to turn up in court, you know. 346 00:25:52,638 --> 00:25:54,335 So we arranged this trip. 347 00:25:55,031 --> 00:25:56,555 "Let's go to Morocco." 348 00:26:02,386 --> 00:26:06,652 I end up in my car with Anita and Brian. 349 00:26:11,439 --> 00:26:14,616 It has gone from an apartment 350 00:26:14,616 --> 00:26:19,447 to this very intense car ride. 351 00:26:25,845 --> 00:26:27,194 We stopped in Paris. 352 00:26:27,194 --> 00:26:29,805 Got incredibly stoned for a couple of days. 353 00:26:32,634 --> 00:26:34,897 But our aim is to get to Tangier. 354 00:26:36,812 --> 00:26:38,118 And then one day, 355 00:26:38,771 --> 00:26:42,296 Brian falls incredibly ill. 356 00:26:44,385 --> 00:26:46,082 He was very asthmatic 357 00:26:46,082 --> 00:26:47,910 but I don't think it was asthma. 358 00:26:48,171 --> 00:26:51,348 Brian, sometimes, he takes so much shit 359 00:26:51,348 --> 00:26:55,570 that he just needed to be revamped a few days 360 00:26:55,570 --> 00:26:56,745 in machinery. 361 00:26:58,268 --> 00:27:01,794 And the decision was to leave him there. 362 00:27:05,667 --> 00:27:09,628 I presumed that Anita would stay with Brian, 363 00:27:12,456 --> 00:27:15,111 so I was very surprised the next day 364 00:27:15,111 --> 00:27:17,810 when Anita's going, "Let's go." 365 00:27:22,684 --> 00:27:24,251 And now there were two. 366 00:27:31,475 --> 00:27:34,087 At first, I felt bad leaving Brian behind. 367 00:27:35,566 --> 00:27:38,265 But then it was a relief. 368 00:27:41,224 --> 00:27:42,835 I knew my way around Europe. 369 00:27:43,139 --> 00:27:44,663 I felt more in control. 370 00:27:52,583 --> 00:27:56,326 Keith and I smoked hash, big spliffs and poppers. 371 00:27:58,764 --> 00:28:00,679 And we played songs, 372 00:28:01,201 --> 00:28:04,073 a secretive communication with records. 373 00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:14,693 I couldn't hide it. 374 00:28:15,606 --> 00:28:20,307 I found him very attractive, very sexy. 375 00:28:36,062 --> 00:28:38,978 My night with Keith was a revelation, 376 00:28:40,109 --> 00:28:42,808 to have someone loving and tender. 377 00:28:45,636 --> 00:28:49,075 He'd look at me and I'd melt inside. 378 00:28:57,518 --> 00:29:00,216 The next day, we tried to pretend it didn't happen. 379 00:29:02,131 --> 00:29:03,916 We had to be really careful. 380 00:29:04,481 --> 00:29:07,354 If Brian found out, he would kill us. 381 00:29:22,412 --> 00:29:25,241 Suddenly, Anita, from just being 382 00:29:25,241 --> 00:29:26,895 this... I don't know. 383 00:29:26,895 --> 00:29:30,812 To me, at the time, a very confusing situation, 384 00:29:30,812 --> 00:29:32,205 made everything clear. 385 00:29:35,599 --> 00:29:37,993 I was bursting in love with Anita. 386 00:29:41,997 --> 00:29:43,694 Her independence, 387 00:29:44,086 --> 00:29:47,524 her absolute determination to be 388 00:29:47,829 --> 00:29:49,570 whatever you'd so-call "free." 389 00:29:53,704 --> 00:29:55,968 It bewildered me to start with. 390 00:29:56,925 --> 00:29:58,753 And then I started to realize 391 00:29:58,753 --> 00:30:02,365 that both of us were these war babies, you see? 392 00:30:04,454 --> 00:30:08,850 The war permeated your whole upbringing. 393 00:30:13,202 --> 00:30:16,292 Anita just wanted to fucking kick it all over. 394 00:30:24,910 --> 00:30:27,347 But then by the time we got to Marrakesh, 395 00:30:27,738 --> 00:30:29,828 Brian has rejoined us. 396 00:30:31,133 --> 00:30:33,353 Now it's getting complicated. 397 00:30:37,139 --> 00:30:39,185 Brian didn't finish his treatment. 398 00:30:41,970 --> 00:30:43,450 Everyone was on edge. 399 00:30:47,062 --> 00:30:49,108 That night, he picked up two prostitutes 400 00:30:49,108 --> 00:30:50,631 and told me to join in. 401 00:30:52,459 --> 00:30:53,590 I refused. 402 00:30:56,855 --> 00:30:59,727 He ordered room service and started throwing it at me. 403 00:31:01,685 --> 00:31:04,558 Silver, cutlery, glasses. 404 00:31:05,559 --> 00:31:06,908 I was terrified. 405 00:31:11,347 --> 00:31:12,958 And that's when Keith arrived. 406 00:31:15,961 --> 00:31:18,833 He said, "We can't go on like this." 407 00:31:20,617 --> 00:31:21,749 "Let's split." 408 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,583 I can remember our trip back to London. 409 00:31:32,194 --> 00:31:33,892 It wasn't a lover's escape. 410 00:31:38,984 --> 00:31:40,159 I was a wreck. 411 00:31:43,249 --> 00:31:44,903 We just abandoned Brian. 412 00:31:46,252 --> 00:31:47,818 We left without telling him. 413 00:31:49,211 --> 00:31:51,605 But I couldn't take it anymore. 414 00:32:11,059 --> 00:32:13,627 reporter: 415 00:32:18,327 --> 00:32:20,025 When the picture was finished, 416 00:32:20,547 --> 00:32:23,898 we had the premier at the Cannes Film Festival. 417 00:32:24,768 --> 00:32:27,989 - reporter: - Yeah. 418 00:32:27,989 --> 00:32:29,382 reporter: 419 00:32:32,907 --> 00:32:36,345 reporter 2: 420 00:32:47,052 --> 00:32:49,793 [in English] At first, Anita was camera shy. 421 00:32:50,577 --> 00:32:52,753 And then quite the opposite. 422 00:32:53,014 --> 00:32:54,973 She loved it. 423 00:32:54,973 --> 00:32:57,627 man: 424 00:33:00,239 --> 00:33:02,806 She did all kind of clowning 425 00:33:02,806 --> 00:33:04,460 for the photographers 426 00:33:04,460 --> 00:33:06,941 and enjoyed the whole circus. 427 00:33:12,729 --> 00:33:16,124 To walk down the red carpet and all the glamour, 428 00:33:16,124 --> 00:33:17,778 it was fantastic. 429 00:33:19,171 --> 00:33:21,695 There was all of the entourage. 430 00:33:22,913 --> 00:33:24,524 Keith, Stash, 431 00:33:25,742 --> 00:33:27,309 a whole bunch of people, 432 00:33:27,309 --> 00:33:30,486 all dressed in the most extravagant ways. 433 00:33:31,009 --> 00:33:32,662 man 1: Say something. Say something groovy. 434 00:33:32,662 --> 00:33:35,404 - man 2: Say something groovy. - Wow. 435 00:33:35,404 --> 00:33:37,102 - man 1: Oh, wow. - man 2: Oh, wow. 436 00:33:38,364 --> 00:33:43,195 But also, of course, as the composer of the movie, 437 00:33:43,543 --> 00:33:45,240 Brian was there. 438 00:33:48,852 --> 00:33:51,203 I found myself in this position 439 00:33:51,203 --> 00:33:53,596 of having to go to Cannes with Brian, 440 00:33:53,596 --> 00:33:55,294 who otherwise wouldn't go. 441 00:33:55,946 --> 00:34:00,038 Brian had an unspoken mission to get Anita back. 442 00:34:01,213 --> 00:34:03,171 He was very contrite. 443 00:34:03,737 --> 00:34:08,220 He realized that he did absolutely everything wrong 444 00:34:08,220 --> 00:34:10,874 during the Morocco incident. 445 00:34:12,180 --> 00:34:14,835 Anita was very kind. 446 00:34:14,835 --> 00:34:17,098 And, you know, she could have hardened 447 00:34:17,098 --> 00:34:19,144 and said, "I refuse to see you." 448 00:34:19,883 --> 00:34:22,190 She was very tender. 449 00:34:30,024 --> 00:34:31,460 After the premier, 450 00:34:31,721 --> 00:34:34,768 we had a wild night of celebration. 451 00:34:36,857 --> 00:34:40,817 Everybody got stone drunk and stoned otherwise 452 00:34:40,817 --> 00:34:43,559 and falling all over each other. 453 00:34:45,909 --> 00:34:49,130 She was the queen of the group, and that, she enjoyed. 454 00:34:53,308 --> 00:34:55,658 The day after, late in the morning, 455 00:34:56,094 --> 00:34:59,575 I come into Anita's room in the hotel, 456 00:34:59,923 --> 00:35:02,317 and there was Keith having breakfast in bed. 457 00:35:03,797 --> 00:35:06,539 All I went was, "Uh-uh." 458 00:35:10,020 --> 00:35:14,590 I never really understood quite what she saw in me. 459 00:35:18,377 --> 00:35:19,856 For some reason, 460 00:35:19,856 --> 00:35:21,815 she found me as mysterious 461 00:35:21,815 --> 00:35:23,904 and as attractive as I found her, 462 00:35:26,776 --> 00:35:28,343 which is just incredible. 463 00:35:39,615 --> 00:35:41,922 reporter: 464 00:35:49,582 --> 00:35:51,279 It was a different kind of love 465 00:35:51,279 --> 00:35:52,846 than I was used to 466 00:35:52,846 --> 00:35:55,370 and it was a good time in my life. 467 00:35:59,853 --> 00:36:01,463 Keith was still shy. 468 00:36:01,463 --> 00:36:02,856 That's just his nature. 469 00:36:05,424 --> 00:36:08,253 I brought him out with my Italian energy. 470 00:36:13,083 --> 00:36:15,390 Back then, he looked like a lion, 471 00:36:15,695 --> 00:36:18,306 all natural and never more cool. 472 00:36:23,659 --> 00:36:25,400 I was considered, for a while, 473 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,577 to be like the best dressed man in the world. 474 00:36:28,577 --> 00:36:31,885 It was because I was wearing Anita's clothes. 475 00:36:32,973 --> 00:36:35,018 She had an amazing eye. 476 00:36:36,542 --> 00:36:38,544 She was the leader in fashion. 477 00:36:39,458 --> 00:36:43,113 Since Keith went with Anita, he changed the way of dressing. 478 00:36:43,766 --> 00:36:46,073 It really changed. Fantastic. 479 00:36:46,378 --> 00:36:48,162 You see Anita on Keith. 480 00:36:53,776 --> 00:36:56,388 Anita is a charger. She really charges you. 481 00:37:00,783 --> 00:37:02,089 When I think about it, 482 00:37:02,089 --> 00:37:04,352 in those early days, it was fun. 483 00:37:07,225 --> 00:37:08,922 The Stones would play a town. 484 00:37:08,922 --> 00:37:10,576 Then I'd fly to meet them. 485 00:37:11,098 --> 00:37:12,534 Then I'd fly home again. 486 00:37:17,235 --> 00:37:20,803 You know, Brian always carried a torch for Anita 487 00:37:21,151 --> 00:37:23,241 long after it was 488 00:37:23,241 --> 00:37:25,678 proven that they couldn't get back together. 489 00:37:28,898 --> 00:37:30,465 But I think by then, 490 00:37:30,987 --> 00:37:35,078 Keith was much more confident of his relationship with her. 491 00:37:40,432 --> 00:37:45,001 Don't you find respectable people terribly dull? 492 00:37:45,001 --> 00:37:46,394 You're joking, aren't you? 493 00:37:46,394 --> 00:37:48,918 I've only known the most respectable people. 494 00:37:49,310 --> 00:37:50,355 Oh. 495 00:37:51,573 --> 00:37:53,401 My career was taking off. 496 00:37:54,010 --> 00:37:57,449 I was consumed by Marlene Dietrich, Fritz Lang, 497 00:37:57,753 --> 00:37:59,015 and all the classics. 498 00:38:00,103 --> 00:38:01,279 This is Krankeit, 499 00:38:01,279 --> 00:38:03,237 I want you now. Come. 500 00:38:05,631 --> 00:38:07,110 He wants me. 501 00:38:07,894 --> 00:38:09,504 I was working a lot. 502 00:38:10,375 --> 00:38:12,377 Mostly in European films. 503 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,336 Pretty avant-garde movie-making. 504 00:38:15,858 --> 00:38:17,817 The doctor says no touching. 505 00:38:18,557 --> 00:38:19,645 Disappointed? 506 00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:24,911 She was a very talented actress. 507 00:38:27,217 --> 00:38:30,133 She had a great career ahead of her. 508 00:38:35,922 --> 00:38:37,837 Hello, pretty, pretty. 509 00:38:41,188 --> 00:38:42,232 Hello. 510 00:38:43,321 --> 00:38:45,801 I played a tyrant in Barbarella. 511 00:38:46,236 --> 00:38:48,108 My idea of a quiet summer. 512 00:38:48,587 --> 00:38:50,589 Do you want to come and play with me? 513 00:38:52,155 --> 00:38:54,506 For someone like you, I'd charge nothing. 514 00:38:55,681 --> 00:38:57,944 You're very pretty, pretty, pretty. 515 00:38:58,858 --> 00:39:01,208 My name isn't Pretty, Pretty. It's Barbarella. 516 00:39:05,691 --> 00:39:06,866 producer: Start. 517 00:39:08,128 --> 00:39:10,217 I was on the set once or twice. 518 00:39:11,827 --> 00:39:15,614 Jane Fonda was the exact opposite of Anita. 519 00:39:16,876 --> 00:39:20,880 Both incredibly good-looking with personality 520 00:39:21,794 --> 00:39:26,276 but Jane Fonda, a hard worker, very driven. 521 00:39:27,147 --> 00:39:29,105 And Anita just laid-back, 522 00:39:29,497 --> 00:39:32,718 but since she was intelligent, she got away with it. 523 00:39:33,849 --> 00:39:36,722 Tell me, my fancy, fuzzy freak. 524 00:39:37,636 --> 00:39:41,074 What do think of when you make love to Barbarella? 525 00:39:45,121 --> 00:39:47,341 Anita, in those costumes, 526 00:39:47,341 --> 00:39:49,952 she completely forgot herself. 527 00:39:50,475 --> 00:39:52,999 So I'm your little one-eyed wench. 528 00:39:54,174 --> 00:39:56,655 I'm also The Great Tyrant. 529 00:39:57,525 --> 00:39:58,657 That's nice. 530 00:39:58,961 --> 00:40:01,268 So she became very imperious. 531 00:40:01,268 --> 00:40:04,532 I'm not talking about him. I'm speaking of the angel. 532 00:40:05,098 --> 00:40:07,187 I suppose it was method acting. 533 00:40:07,927 --> 00:40:10,799 She really believed she was the Black Queen. 534 00:40:12,932 --> 00:40:15,413 I would fear for anybody that crossed her. 535 00:40:17,937 --> 00:40:19,199 I remember once, 536 00:40:19,634 --> 00:40:22,245 I happened to say, "Oh, that's nice." 537 00:40:22,942 --> 00:40:26,119 And she turned on me, "Nice?" 538 00:40:26,424 --> 00:40:29,383 "Nice? I hate the word nice." 539 00:40:40,916 --> 00:40:46,400 photographer: 540 00:40:50,622 --> 00:40:52,754 People started treating me like a star 541 00:40:53,233 --> 00:40:54,713 and I kind of loved it. 542 00:40:56,454 --> 00:40:58,064 But whatever fame I had, 543 00:40:58,456 --> 00:41:00,762 it was nothing compared to The Stones. 544 00:41:00,762 --> 00:41:02,764 man: 545 00:41:22,915 --> 00:41:24,786 I was producing the film 546 00:41:24,786 --> 00:41:26,222 for Warner Bros 547 00:41:26,484 --> 00:41:27,963 called Performance. 548 00:41:28,921 --> 00:41:30,705 Very unusual movie. 549 00:41:32,315 --> 00:41:33,926 That's how I met Anita. 550 00:41:35,188 --> 00:41:37,495 She was always gonna be in the film. 551 00:41:38,060 --> 00:41:40,106 It was written for her. 552 00:41:41,150 --> 00:41:45,067 She had a very kind of incisive and biting sense of humor. 553 00:41:46,025 --> 00:41:48,070 She got right to the point, you know? 554 00:41:48,070 --> 00:41:50,116 Who are you? What do you want? 555 00:41:56,514 --> 00:42:00,039 The script was very decadent, very sexy. 556 00:42:01,780 --> 00:42:04,086 When I heard Mick was going to join the cast, 557 00:42:04,434 --> 00:42:05,566 I was wary. 558 00:42:06,306 --> 00:42:08,961 It all felt a little too close. 559 00:42:16,055 --> 00:42:17,578 Mick's character 560 00:42:17,926 --> 00:42:20,712 is a retired rock and roll musician. 561 00:42:21,756 --> 00:42:23,149 He is a recluse, 562 00:42:23,584 --> 00:42:27,762 living in a kind of ramshackle home in Notting Hill. 563 00:42:28,633 --> 00:42:30,939 He's got his two girlfriends there, 564 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,812 sort of ministering to his needs. 565 00:42:34,377 --> 00:42:36,031 Do you think I should wash my hair? 566 00:42:36,945 --> 00:42:38,381 Uh-uh. No. 567 00:42:38,860 --> 00:42:41,907 They're very happy together as a family. 568 00:42:43,648 --> 00:42:46,781 They don't want the outside world to come in. 569 00:42:50,437 --> 00:42:52,308 That is what happens, of course, 570 00:42:52,570 --> 00:42:55,007 when James Fox arrives in the house. 571 00:42:55,790 --> 00:42:57,444 He is the outside world. 572 00:42:58,053 --> 00:42:59,794 Oh, very nice. 573 00:43:02,101 --> 00:43:03,319 And that sets up 574 00:43:03,319 --> 00:43:06,627 this very powerful strange relationship 575 00:43:06,627 --> 00:43:08,368 between the characters in the house. 576 00:43:10,326 --> 00:43:11,632 What's wrong with the lights? 577 00:43:11,632 --> 00:43:14,853 Yeah. Artificial energy. 578 00:43:15,244 --> 00:43:17,333 It's pulsating into the voltage. 579 00:43:18,334 --> 00:43:20,075 Drugs were the ultimate rebellion. 580 00:43:20,467 --> 00:43:22,251 And they were everywhere on set. 581 00:43:23,122 --> 00:43:26,212 Not just the old hippy variety of hashish and acid. 582 00:43:27,648 --> 00:43:30,172 We were doing cocaine and heroin. 583 00:43:34,350 --> 00:43:36,309 James Fox was a professional actor 584 00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:38,267 and we were intimidated by him. 585 00:43:40,705 --> 00:43:42,358 You know where I'm going, pal? 586 00:43:45,753 --> 00:43:46,798 I do. 587 00:43:49,714 --> 00:43:51,977 Like children, we teased him. 588 00:43:54,109 --> 00:43:56,198 You never had a female feel. 589 00:43:57,504 --> 00:43:58,810 No. Never. 590 00:43:59,332 --> 00:44:00,550 I feel like a man. 591 00:44:01,334 --> 00:44:02,683 A man all the time. 592 00:44:03,553 --> 00:44:04,816 That's awful. 593 00:44:05,164 --> 00:44:06,600 He almost flipped out. 594 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,210 There's nothing wrong with me. 595 00:44:09,342 --> 00:44:10,648 I'm normal. 596 00:44:11,823 --> 00:44:14,434 That brought Mick and I closer together. 597 00:44:14,695 --> 00:44:17,393 Uh, can I use the blower up here? 598 00:44:18,003 --> 00:44:19,613 We ain't got a blower up here. 599 00:44:21,963 --> 00:44:24,792 What in God's name has he done to his hair? 600 00:44:26,011 --> 00:44:28,883 We've seen it. We caught it in Hamburg. Your act. 601 00:44:28,883 --> 00:44:30,363 - Oh, yeah. - It was fascinating. 602 00:44:30,363 --> 00:44:32,495 Mick had never done a movie before 603 00:44:32,495 --> 00:44:34,193 and he liked my confidence. 604 00:44:35,368 --> 00:44:37,326 We were spending more time together, 605 00:44:37,718 --> 00:44:38,980 me and Mick. 606 00:44:39,764 --> 00:44:40,808 Yes, no? 607 00:44:41,156 --> 00:44:42,244 Yes, no. 608 00:44:55,997 --> 00:44:57,129 The funny thing is, 609 00:44:57,129 --> 00:44:59,044 I never really fancied Mick at all, 610 00:45:00,828 --> 00:45:04,136 but you spend eight days lying in bed together, 611 00:45:04,136 --> 00:45:08,009 giggling and taking dope just to produce two minutes of film, 612 00:45:08,967 --> 00:45:10,490 and what the hell do you expect? 613 00:45:15,495 --> 00:45:17,062 Performance was replicating 614 00:45:17,062 --> 00:45:18,585 the feeling of that time. 615 00:45:19,804 --> 00:45:22,545 Sex was something much more casual. 616 00:45:23,590 --> 00:45:26,767 Something that you did without any commitment. 617 00:45:30,466 --> 00:45:36,168 All of us could see Mick had fallen in love with Anita. 618 00:45:38,083 --> 00:45:41,869 He hadn't declared it but it was so obvious. 619 00:45:46,961 --> 00:45:48,049 Salud. 620 00:45:52,358 --> 00:45:56,971 When Anita and Mick did Performance, 621 00:45:57,406 --> 00:45:59,887 I knew I had to leave town. 622 00:46:00,148 --> 00:46:02,760 I knew I wouldn't be able to handle it. 623 00:46:05,284 --> 00:46:07,982 I know Keith had a very difficult time. 624 00:46:09,679 --> 00:46:11,290 woman: 625 00:46:14,162 --> 00:46:16,904 Well, I'm making this while he's making that. 626 00:46:21,909 --> 00:46:23,781 It upset him terribly. 627 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,527 He filmed himself on the outside looking in 628 00:46:31,832 --> 00:46:34,748 at the most important people in his life. 629 00:46:41,276 --> 00:46:43,409 It was very difficult for him. 630 00:46:45,672 --> 00:46:50,068 How Keith responds is he writes "Gimme Shelter." 631 00:46:52,026 --> 00:46:55,334 ♪ Ooh, a storm is threatening 632 00:46:55,987 --> 00:46:59,120 ♪ My very life today 633 00:47:00,078 --> 00:47:03,559 ♪ If I don't get some shelter 634 00:47:04,517 --> 00:47:07,085 ♪ Ooh yeah, I'm gonna fade away ♪ 635 00:47:08,173 --> 00:47:11,176 ♪ War, children 636 00:47:11,959 --> 00:47:13,700 ♪ It's just a shot away 637 00:47:14,135 --> 00:47:15,920 ♪ It's just a shot away ♪ 638 00:47:16,181 --> 00:47:19,010 ♪ War, children ♪ 639 00:47:20,011 --> 00:47:21,751 ♪ It's just a shot away 640 00:47:22,056 --> 00:47:25,364 ♪ It's just a shot away ♪ 641 00:47:27,975 --> 00:47:29,498 Keith never spoke about it. 642 00:47:30,804 --> 00:47:32,240 He just stayed silent. 643 00:47:33,372 --> 00:47:35,678 The most unnerving reaction of all. 644 00:47:37,724 --> 00:47:39,900 I was relieved when the film ended. 645 00:47:41,162 --> 00:47:44,252 I never felt Mick's charm the way other women did. 646 00:47:45,558 --> 00:47:48,648 In any case, all we ever talked about was Keith. 647 00:48:02,009 --> 00:48:04,925 We were never peace and love kind of people. 648 00:48:06,579 --> 00:48:08,624 But we wanted to reassure each other 649 00:48:08,624 --> 00:48:10,583 that everything was okay. 650 00:48:11,323 --> 00:48:13,716 So we decided to take a trip together. 651 00:48:14,108 --> 00:48:16,632 Mick, Marianne, Keith, and I. 652 00:48:21,986 --> 00:48:23,988 Crossing the Atlantic on a freighter, 653 00:48:24,379 --> 00:48:26,555 we must have seemed pretty eccentric 654 00:48:26,555 --> 00:48:28,035 to the people on the ship. 655 00:48:39,917 --> 00:48:43,137 We had great outfits for strolling down the decks. 656 00:48:49,796 --> 00:48:53,843 Beautiful Marianne was always dressed top to toe. 657 00:48:54,757 --> 00:48:59,762 Long gloves, hat, she was like a Tennessee Williams character. 658 00:49:08,597 --> 00:49:10,991 And I was pregnant. 659 00:49:17,606 --> 00:49:20,740 The last thing I expected from this relationship 660 00:49:20,740 --> 00:49:22,611 at that point was 661 00:49:22,611 --> 00:49:25,788 that she actually wanted to have a child. 662 00:49:29,053 --> 00:49:33,622 I was flattered but at the same time, I thought 663 00:49:33,971 --> 00:49:37,365 "This is gonna be a whole new chapter, you know?" 664 00:49:39,933 --> 00:49:41,935 And I said, "Are you sure about this?" 665 00:49:42,936 --> 00:49:45,678 And she said, "Absolutely. Absolutely." 666 00:49:46,157 --> 00:49:49,725 "If I'm gonna have a baby, I want you to be the father." 667 00:49:51,162 --> 00:49:54,600 And I said, "Okay. Then we're in for it. Let's go." 668 00:50:02,216 --> 00:50:05,045 I knew it was time to get off the hard drugs. 669 00:50:06,612 --> 00:50:08,962 To help, I got a shot of morphine 670 00:50:08,962 --> 00:50:10,050 from the ship's nurse. 671 00:50:11,878 --> 00:50:14,011 ♪ Here I lie 672 00:50:15,099 --> 00:50:19,320 ♪ In my hospital bed 673 00:50:22,410 --> 00:50:26,023 ♪ Tell me, Sister Morphine 674 00:50:27,067 --> 00:50:31,985 ♪ When are you Coming round again? ♪ 675 00:50:33,465 --> 00:50:34,509 ♪ Oh... 676 00:50:35,336 --> 00:50:38,774 I thought of her as Sister Morphine for the song. 677 00:50:39,558 --> 00:50:41,777 I made her into Sister Morphine. 678 00:50:41,777 --> 00:50:46,086 I had to visualize it to really write it, you know? 679 00:50:46,086 --> 00:50:47,870 ♪ Oh, you see 680 00:50:48,828 --> 00:50:54,442 ♪ That my pain is so strong 681 00:50:55,226 --> 00:50:58,577 Between Marianne and I, there was love. 682 00:51:01,145 --> 00:51:04,017 But her relationship with Mick wasn't working anymore. 683 00:51:11,024 --> 00:51:12,765 When we arrived in Brazil, 684 00:51:13,113 --> 00:51:16,595 Marianne didn't like the heat or the mosquitoes. 685 00:51:17,813 --> 00:51:19,032 She decided to go home. 686 00:51:22,166 --> 00:51:24,429 You know, it broke my heart to do that 687 00:51:24,777 --> 00:51:26,257 but I had to leave. 688 00:51:27,823 --> 00:51:29,521 I think it was inevitable. 689 00:51:33,394 --> 00:51:35,135 Although I did love Mick, 690 00:51:35,962 --> 00:51:39,270 we were completely unsuited, I'm afraid. 691 00:51:50,063 --> 00:51:53,110 Mick and Keith and I pressed on to Peru. 692 00:51:58,027 --> 00:52:00,204 We had a suitcase full of money 693 00:52:00,204 --> 00:52:03,685 and we wanted to be far, far away from everybody. 694 00:52:06,123 --> 00:52:10,518 ♪ I saw her today At the reception ♪ 695 00:52:10,518 --> 00:52:13,173 Mick tried to catch me on my own sometimes... 696 00:52:13,173 --> 00:52:14,696 ♪ A glass of wine... 697 00:52:14,696 --> 00:52:16,742 ...when Keith was drunk and passed out. 698 00:52:17,308 --> 00:52:19,223 He'd say we should run off together. 699 00:52:20,963 --> 00:52:22,878 But his flirtations were half-hearted 700 00:52:22,878 --> 00:52:24,532 because he knew I was pregnant. 701 00:52:25,490 --> 00:52:27,318 That's when he started to write 702 00:52:27,796 --> 00:52:29,929 "You Can't Always Get What You Want." 703 00:52:29,929 --> 00:52:34,063 ♪ You can't always get What you want ♪ 704 00:52:35,717 --> 00:52:40,069 ♪ You can't always get What you want ♪ 705 00:52:41,549 --> 00:52:46,380 ♪ But if you try sometimes Well, you might find ♪ 706 00:52:46,815 --> 00:52:49,166 ♪ You get what you need ♪ 707 00:52:49,427 --> 00:52:52,125 ♪ Ah, yeah ♪ 708 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,781 Anita is in a lot of those songs. Absolutely. 709 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,308 ♪ And I went down To the demonstration ♪ 710 00:53:01,308 --> 00:53:03,528 She's a muse, I'm sure, though not just for me. 711 00:53:03,528 --> 00:53:06,357 I mean, for several other songwriters 712 00:53:06,357 --> 00:53:08,185 that I can think of. 713 00:53:08,185 --> 00:53:09,751 ♪ Sing it to me, honey 714 00:53:09,751 --> 00:53:13,494 ♪ You can't always get What you want ♪ 715 00:53:15,017 --> 00:53:18,151 ♪ You can't always get What you want ♪ 716 00:53:18,151 --> 00:53:20,632 There always has to be some kind of friction 717 00:53:20,632 --> 00:53:21,807 between Keith and Mick. 718 00:53:23,069 --> 00:53:24,505 And they need someone in the middle 719 00:53:24,505 --> 00:53:25,854 to bring it all out. 720 00:53:27,508 --> 00:53:29,206 Brian used to say that too. 721 00:53:30,598 --> 00:53:32,818 ♪ You get what you need 722 00:53:33,210 --> 00:53:37,605 ♪ Ah baby, yeah ♪ 723 00:53:58,278 --> 00:54:01,368 He came close to the edge many times. 724 00:54:02,674 --> 00:54:04,632 Who didn't in our group? 725 00:54:08,114 --> 00:54:13,641 But the loss of Brian, it was a dreadful tragedy. 726 00:54:17,079 --> 00:54:20,213 People think of Brian as a sort of ghost, 727 00:54:21,606 --> 00:54:24,652 but he had his own 728 00:54:24,652 --> 00:54:27,438 extraordinary outstanding talent. 729 00:54:31,703 --> 00:54:33,922 Although, he was a very good swimmer, 730 00:54:34,314 --> 00:54:38,100 he had taken a lot of Mandrax before he went in the pool. 731 00:54:39,667 --> 00:54:43,280 And Brian was very weak, physically, anyway. 732 00:54:47,849 --> 00:54:51,592 Poor Brian. I felt very sorry. 733 00:54:53,594 --> 00:54:56,075 Although it was a shock when it actually happened, 734 00:54:56,728 --> 00:54:59,121 nobody was really that surprised too. 735 00:54:59,557 --> 00:55:01,907 There are people... I'm sure that everybody's got 736 00:55:01,907 --> 00:55:03,300 those things about certain people. 737 00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:05,519 - Everybody knows people that... - woman: Mm-hmm. 738 00:55:05,519 --> 00:55:07,042 ...you just have that feeling 739 00:55:07,042 --> 00:55:10,045 that they're not gonna be 70 years old ever, you know? 740 00:55:10,045 --> 00:55:12,787 That not everybody makes it, you know? 741 00:55:17,357 --> 00:55:20,621 I was shocked and I felt guilty. 742 00:55:22,231 --> 00:55:25,626 He just kind of flickered out like a light, you know? 743 00:55:29,717 --> 00:55:31,153 The last time I'd seen Brian 744 00:55:31,153 --> 00:55:33,373 was when we were all singing together on the demo 745 00:55:33,373 --> 00:55:35,027 for "Sympathy for the Devil." 746 00:55:36,855 --> 00:55:38,987 ♪ When the blitzkrieg raged And the bodies stank ♪ 747 00:55:39,423 --> 00:55:41,425 But I hadn't really spoken to him since. 748 00:55:41,773 --> 00:55:43,383 ♪ Pleased to meet you all ♪ 749 00:55:43,905 --> 00:55:48,170 ♪ Hope you guess my name Oh yeah ♪ 750 00:55:49,389 --> 00:55:52,784 After he died, she went kind of mad 751 00:55:53,350 --> 00:55:57,963 and she spent all her time putting pictures up of Brian 752 00:55:58,267 --> 00:56:00,618 in the house she shared with Keith 753 00:56:00,618 --> 00:56:02,663 and then taking them all down again 754 00:56:02,924 --> 00:56:05,013 and then putting them all up again. 755 00:56:06,624 --> 00:56:08,756 ♪ I shouted out Who killed the Kennedys? ♪ 756 00:56:09,801 --> 00:56:11,890 I was seven months pregnant when he died. 757 00:56:15,763 --> 00:56:17,199 I started to have visions 758 00:56:17,199 --> 00:56:20,289 that Brian would reincarnate himself as my baby. 759 00:56:25,686 --> 00:56:27,253 It was very scary. 760 00:56:33,651 --> 00:56:37,219 My son was born in August 1969. 761 00:56:39,134 --> 00:56:43,400 He was a perfect eight-pound baby. Healthy. 762 00:56:44,792 --> 00:56:47,012 We didn't have a name and Keith said, 763 00:56:47,012 --> 00:56:49,057 "Marlon Brando called up today." 764 00:56:49,318 --> 00:56:52,234 And I thought, "Marlon. That's a good name." 765 00:56:52,626 --> 00:56:53,975 "We'll call him Marlon." 766 00:56:58,545 --> 00:57:03,420 ♪ Hey, babe What's in your eyes? ♪ 767 00:57:04,159 --> 00:57:09,164 ♪ I saw them flashing Like airplane lights ♪ 768 00:57:09,817 --> 00:57:13,908 ♪ You fill my cup, babe That's for sure ♪ 769 00:57:13,908 --> 00:57:15,388 Somewhere around there, 770 00:57:15,736 --> 00:57:20,567 Keith wrote on the spot "You Got the Silver" 771 00:57:21,046 --> 00:57:22,569 and then sang it to her. 772 00:57:22,830 --> 00:57:24,528 And it was so beautiful. 773 00:57:25,703 --> 00:57:27,400 They really did love each other. 774 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:31,665 ♪ You got my heart You got my soul ♪ 775 00:57:32,274 --> 00:57:36,801 ♪ You got the silver You got the gold ♪ 776 00:57:37,932 --> 00:57:42,110 ♪ You got the diamonds From the mine ♪ 777 00:57:42,589 --> 00:57:43,851 ♪ Well, that's all right... ♪ 778 00:57:44,112 --> 00:57:46,114 Keith was very tender with Marlon. 779 00:57:46,463 --> 00:57:49,422 He would change him, take him for walks, 780 00:57:49,814 --> 00:57:52,773 things that fathers didn't always do in those days. 781 00:58:01,390 --> 00:58:04,306 Things were pretty rosy for about three months, 782 00:58:05,220 --> 00:58:06,918 then Keith went back on tour. 783 00:58:09,529 --> 00:58:13,925 Marlon was too tiny to travel, so we stayed behind. 784 00:58:16,057 --> 00:58:17,624 By this point, Keith didn't care 785 00:58:17,624 --> 00:58:19,017 for me acting at all. 786 00:58:19,713 --> 00:58:22,194 He offered me money to stop working. 787 00:58:23,151 --> 00:58:25,632 He didn't understand it wasn't about the money. 788 00:58:26,328 --> 00:58:28,461 It was just something I wanted to do. 789 00:58:30,202 --> 00:58:33,510 Keith, in his own way, is very possessive 790 00:58:34,075 --> 00:58:35,729 of friends and lovers. 791 00:58:36,469 --> 00:58:40,821 He resented anything that would take her away from him. 792 00:58:43,215 --> 00:58:46,131 He didn't want his woman to work at all. 793 00:58:46,131 --> 00:58:49,351 It wasn't acting, particularly, it would have been anything. 794 00:58:51,266 --> 00:58:53,486 And I think it was difficult for Anita. 795 00:58:53,834 --> 00:58:56,489 She was so talented in her own right 796 00:58:57,098 --> 00:59:00,362 and sort of kept down in a way, you know? 797 00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:12,113 Honestly, I was confused. I felt betrayed. 798 00:59:14,028 --> 00:59:18,076 But the rule with the boys was "never show emotion." 799 00:59:22,646 --> 00:59:26,258 Heroin makes you feel warm, like you belong. 800 00:59:27,259 --> 00:59:28,913 It seemed like a solution. 801 00:59:36,007 --> 00:59:38,966 I was on my own with Marlon for months. 802 00:59:39,837 --> 00:59:43,101 I stopped breastfeeding and I gave him bottles. 803 00:59:44,581 --> 00:59:47,322 When Keith came back, I was very stoned. 804 00:59:52,719 --> 00:59:56,462 I went to dry out at a clinic where they do a sleeping cure. 805 00:59:59,117 --> 01:00:02,729 You talk to a therapist and then they knock you out. 806 01:00:03,034 --> 01:00:04,426 You sleep it off. 807 01:00:07,342 --> 01:00:09,649 I wanted so much to get better. 808 01:00:10,563 --> 01:00:12,260 I wanted to be a good mother. 809 01:00:13,958 --> 01:00:15,263 But it didn't work. 810 01:00:18,527 --> 01:00:22,444 I spent a week banging my head against the walls. 811 01:00:25,491 --> 01:00:27,711 Eventually, I climbed out the window. 812 01:00:29,321 --> 01:00:30,714 The great escape. 813 01:00:36,284 --> 01:00:37,895 While I was trying to get well, 814 01:00:37,895 --> 01:00:40,332 Marlon and Keith had gone to France. 815 01:00:41,986 --> 01:00:44,553 The Rolling Stones had tax problems, 816 01:00:45,424 --> 01:00:47,644 and we all became exiles. 817 01:00:49,036 --> 01:00:51,691 Our new house was right on the Mediterranean 818 01:00:52,170 --> 01:00:54,346 and the thought of starting a new life together 819 01:00:54,346 --> 01:00:56,870 was very appealing. 820 01:00:58,698 --> 01:01:01,658 Then Keith decided to make a record in our home. 821 01:01:08,577 --> 01:01:10,928 ♪ I wanna tell you 'Bout a dance ♪ 822 01:01:11,232 --> 01:01:13,234 ♪ That's goin' around ♪ 823 01:01:14,192 --> 01:01:16,498 Everyone wanted to come and visit. 824 01:01:17,195 --> 01:01:19,240 We were inundated with people arriving 825 01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,155 to start work on the new album. 826 01:01:21,634 --> 01:01:23,941 ♪ Don't move your hands ♪ 827 01:01:24,289 --> 01:01:26,291 ♪ Don't move your lips ♪ 828 01:01:26,987 --> 01:01:29,120 ♪ Just shake your hips ♪ 829 01:01:29,598 --> 01:01:31,165 ♪ Do the hip shake, babe ♪ 830 01:01:31,165 --> 01:01:34,212 First time I saw Anita with Marlon 831 01:01:34,212 --> 01:01:36,693 was in the south of France 832 01:01:36,954 --> 01:01:39,739 when they were doing Exile on Main St. 833 01:01:39,739 --> 01:01:41,698 ♪ Well, if you don't know ♪ 834 01:01:41,698 --> 01:01:43,612 Anita adored Marlon. 835 01:01:44,091 --> 01:01:46,050 Such a sweet child. 836 01:01:47,225 --> 01:01:51,011 Keith had set up a studio in the basement, 837 01:01:51,011 --> 01:01:52,883 and it was a zoo. 838 01:01:55,886 --> 01:01:59,237 There were dozens of people hanging around, 839 01:01:59,716 --> 01:02:02,719 taking drugs, doing whatever. 840 01:02:05,678 --> 01:02:07,767 You had no idea who would be there 841 01:02:07,767 --> 01:02:10,248 and what state of mind they'd be in. 842 01:02:12,816 --> 01:02:14,948 It's just a crazy atmosphere. 843 01:02:19,387 --> 01:02:21,868 I was the only one who could speak French 844 01:02:22,216 --> 01:02:25,132 and I was over-responsible for everything. 845 01:02:25,829 --> 01:02:27,569 It was like running a hotel. 846 01:02:28,570 --> 01:02:31,791 There were 20 to 30 people to feed every day. 847 01:02:32,444 --> 01:02:34,359 Mommy, Daddy. 848 01:02:34,359 --> 01:02:36,970 Mommy. 849 01:02:37,318 --> 01:02:40,104 Follow me. Come with me. 850 01:02:41,975 --> 01:02:44,456 Marlon had all the toys he wanted, 851 01:02:46,588 --> 01:02:48,939 but there was not that much time for him. 852 01:02:52,116 --> 01:02:55,467 He had to be part of the music, and he was. 853 01:02:59,123 --> 01:03:02,648 He'd be up all night sometimes listening to people playing, 854 01:03:02,909 --> 01:03:04,302 and he'd be screaming. 855 01:03:08,045 --> 01:03:11,788 It took me a long time but I think by then, 856 01:03:12,353 --> 01:03:14,791 I realized that Keith's music came first. 857 01:03:15,487 --> 01:03:17,358 Everything else came second. 858 01:03:23,451 --> 01:03:26,672 We showed up at Nellcôte in the summer of '71, 859 01:03:27,716 --> 01:03:29,153 I was eight and a half. 860 01:03:31,242 --> 01:03:32,721 My father was a drug smuggler 861 01:03:32,721 --> 01:03:35,202 and he was tasked with bringing cocaine 862 01:03:35,202 --> 01:03:37,248 to Mick Jagger's wedding to Bianca. 863 01:03:41,339 --> 01:03:43,471 My old man and Keith 864 01:03:43,471 --> 01:03:45,343 were all in the same kind of scene, 865 01:03:45,343 --> 01:03:46,953 and my mother was in that scene. 866 01:03:48,912 --> 01:03:50,696 Ultimately, my mother didn't come 867 01:03:50,696 --> 01:03:52,480 because she was... 868 01:03:53,612 --> 01:03:57,442 recovering from a stint in an asylum. 869 01:04:01,141 --> 01:04:03,056 I recognized, even as a kid, 870 01:04:03,056 --> 01:04:05,580 that Anita was a force of nature, 871 01:04:06,581 --> 01:04:08,453 striking and charismatic. 872 01:04:09,976 --> 01:04:15,025 She was the alpha in the room until Keith came along 873 01:04:15,025 --> 01:04:17,854 and then they were both sort of co-alphas. 874 01:04:21,074 --> 01:04:22,902 Can you turn the piano up just a bit? 875 01:04:22,902 --> 01:04:24,643 You know, just like the off... 876 01:04:25,165 --> 01:04:29,169 Charlie, did you get that? We're gonna try that... 877 01:04:29,169 --> 01:04:31,258 Everything sort of became nocturnal 878 01:04:31,258 --> 01:04:32,869 'cause Keith was nocturnal. 879 01:04:32,869 --> 01:04:35,132 man: Yeah, which amps are you coming out of, Keith? 880 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,265 My brother and I would sit down there and watch. 881 01:04:38,265 --> 01:04:39,788 man: So we listen to it. 882 01:04:41,355 --> 01:04:43,662 There's a broken string on that one there, it has to... 883 01:04:43,662 --> 01:04:45,925 Everyone was just sitting around a lot 884 01:04:46,186 --> 01:04:49,059 waiting for Keith to, you know, come to. 885 01:04:51,670 --> 01:04:55,239 All right. We're about to sing here. 886 01:04:59,417 --> 01:05:02,333 By now, Keith had a heroin habit too. 887 01:05:03,116 --> 01:05:04,901 And he was secretive about it. 888 01:05:04,901 --> 01:05:06,772 It should be down in there. 889 01:05:07,642 --> 01:05:09,296 He would go into the bathroom 890 01:05:09,296 --> 01:05:10,428 and shut the door, 891 01:05:10,732 --> 01:05:12,909 so you never knew how much he was taking. 892 01:05:17,087 --> 01:05:18,958 Keith would invite people over, 893 01:05:18,958 --> 01:05:20,568 and they'd stay all hours. 894 01:05:21,743 --> 01:05:24,050 And it was her job to kick them out, 895 01:05:24,572 --> 01:05:26,748 throw them out violently. 896 01:05:26,748 --> 01:05:28,707 Generally, she'd kind of storm in 897 01:05:28,707 --> 01:05:30,970 and throw her Germanness around 898 01:05:30,970 --> 01:05:32,580 and they'd leave pretty quickly 899 01:05:32,580 --> 01:05:34,234 'cause that was something he couldn't do. 900 01:05:34,234 --> 01:05:35,801 He could not get rid of the hangers-on. 901 01:05:37,672 --> 01:05:39,936 They were happy to sit there and just sort of stare at him 902 01:05:41,546 --> 01:05:42,851 while he basically snored. 903 01:05:45,332 --> 01:05:47,639 Anita became a bit of a bodyguard. 904 01:05:51,425 --> 01:05:53,688 I have no idea what it felt like 905 01:05:53,688 --> 01:05:59,477 to be the queen in this castle of, you know, dissolute men. 906 01:06:00,347 --> 01:06:02,523 But there weren't a lot of women in the house. 907 01:06:04,612 --> 01:06:06,179 She couldn't stand it. 908 01:06:06,179 --> 01:06:08,007 She had to hold the whole situation 909 01:06:08,007 --> 01:06:09,313 in her hands. 910 01:06:09,313 --> 01:06:11,663 And there were really people around, I think, 911 01:06:11,663 --> 01:06:14,057 that must have been very annoying for her. 912 01:06:14,057 --> 01:06:17,364 But that's the part of being famous, no? 913 01:06:20,454 --> 01:06:22,674 She was fierce, 914 01:06:23,196 --> 01:06:25,982 and, you know, she would snap. 915 01:06:27,113 --> 01:06:28,419 But not at the kids. 916 01:06:29,681 --> 01:06:32,684 She was generous and funny to the kids. 917 01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:40,605 And then we were there for a month and a half or so, 918 01:06:40,605 --> 01:06:42,259 and my mother passed away. 919 01:06:45,566 --> 01:06:47,612 My dad sort of went on a bender. 920 01:06:50,267 --> 01:06:51,833 I remember her navigating it, 921 01:06:52,399 --> 01:06:55,533 trying to figure out what she could do 922 01:06:56,316 --> 01:06:57,926 and, um... 923 01:06:59,015 --> 01:07:00,407 Fuck. I'm sorry. 924 01:07:03,410 --> 01:07:07,545 She filled the vacuum of a surrogate parent, you know? 925 01:07:10,113 --> 01:07:11,723 And she was lovely like that. 926 01:07:13,986 --> 01:07:17,381 Her thing was trying to give us joy. 927 01:07:23,213 --> 01:07:25,041 Anita used to dance with the kids. 928 01:07:28,131 --> 01:07:30,046 We'd Jumpin' Jack Flash it. 929 01:07:32,178 --> 01:07:34,137 There was a lot of boogie-woogie piano playing, 930 01:07:34,137 --> 01:07:35,660 which the kids loved. 931 01:07:37,140 --> 01:07:39,925 There were no bedtimes. There was no structure. 932 01:07:45,278 --> 01:07:47,976 One night, she cut a line 933 01:07:49,630 --> 01:07:51,067 and I said, "Can I have some?" 934 01:07:52,416 --> 01:07:54,983 And I could see her trying to compute. 935 01:07:55,636 --> 01:07:57,856 She said, "Okay. Well, just this little bit." 936 01:07:58,378 --> 01:08:01,077 So I had my first little bump with Anita. 937 01:08:03,601 --> 01:08:05,646 Uh, it never happened again. 938 01:08:06,691 --> 01:08:08,214 She knew she made a mistake. 939 01:08:11,522 --> 01:08:13,045 reporter: In Nice, France, today, 940 01:08:13,045 --> 01:08:15,047 police disclosed that Mick Jagger 941 01:08:15,047 --> 01:08:17,963 and the four other members of The Rolling Stones rock group 942 01:08:17,963 --> 01:08:20,835 have been charged with illegal use of heroin. 943 01:08:22,837 --> 01:08:24,012 A warrant was issued 944 01:08:24,535 --> 01:08:26,711 for the arrest of guitarist Keith Richards and his wife 945 01:08:26,711 --> 01:08:28,104 who failed to appear. 946 01:08:31,019 --> 01:08:32,586 My parents, they were quite blatant 947 01:08:32,586 --> 01:08:33,979 about their drug use. 948 01:08:35,067 --> 01:08:37,722 So eventually the police were called for some incident. 949 01:08:38,114 --> 01:08:39,419 It was very dramatic. 950 01:08:39,419 --> 01:08:41,552 Policemen outside, all that sort of thing. 951 01:08:42,118 --> 01:08:44,685 There was a warrant out for both of them, 952 01:08:47,035 --> 01:08:49,777 and we had to leave France pretty quickly. 953 01:08:53,781 --> 01:08:56,480 We split before the cops raided the house. 954 01:08:58,873 --> 01:09:02,399 My motto was "forward, forward, forward." 955 01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:03,617 "Never look back." 956 01:09:06,446 --> 01:09:09,232 I remember having to leave a lot of my toys 957 01:09:09,536 --> 01:09:11,843 that were sent away, packed up, and put in storage 958 01:09:11,843 --> 01:09:13,366 and never sent on. 959 01:09:14,889 --> 01:09:15,977 That's how it was. 960 01:09:16,543 --> 01:09:19,111 Living such a shambolic and hectic sort of lifestyle, 961 01:09:19,372 --> 01:09:20,721 you'd lose things anyway. 962 01:09:20,721 --> 01:09:21,809 I mean, just lose things. 963 01:09:23,420 --> 01:09:25,857 In like three years, we probably moved house 964 01:09:25,857 --> 01:09:27,598 about 20 times, at least. 965 01:09:30,731 --> 01:09:32,516 And possessions you leave behind, 966 01:09:32,516 --> 01:09:33,560 you never see again. 967 01:09:51,187 --> 01:09:52,797 We couldn't go back to England. 968 01:09:56,322 --> 01:09:58,803 The police in England, they're always watching, 969 01:09:58,803 --> 01:10:00,587 watching the houses... 970 01:10:03,590 --> 01:10:06,550 I remember being very fearful when we were living in London. 971 01:10:06,550 --> 01:10:08,334 We'd go back to our house in Cheney Walk 972 01:10:08,334 --> 01:10:10,249 and they'd immediately draw the curtains 973 01:10:10,249 --> 01:10:12,208 and start staring out the window all the time 974 01:10:12,208 --> 01:10:13,209 looking for the cops. 975 01:10:17,604 --> 01:10:18,692 There was this sort of 976 01:10:18,692 --> 01:10:20,520 Bonnie and Clyde thing about it. 977 01:10:22,783 --> 01:10:26,700 I mean, we actually, literally, were running out of houses. 978 01:10:28,528 --> 01:10:31,488 One suitcase and a kid zooming off 979 01:10:31,488 --> 01:10:33,707 with cops in the trees. 980 01:10:37,363 --> 01:10:39,017 The reason we're in Switzerland, 981 01:10:39,017 --> 01:10:41,324 is it's the only country in the world that would have us. 982 01:10:43,282 --> 01:10:46,677 We're fucking junkies, for Christ's sake. 983 01:10:50,289 --> 01:10:52,291 We got a nice place in Villars. 984 01:10:52,770 --> 01:10:54,685 A simple little cottage. 985 01:10:55,338 --> 01:10:58,602 A ski chalet with meadows and a stream. 986 01:11:04,825 --> 01:11:06,827 One of the earliest memories I have 987 01:11:07,088 --> 01:11:11,049 was my sister being born in Switzerland. 988 01:11:13,617 --> 01:11:16,184 It was a beautiful Sound of Music sort of day. 989 01:11:16,968 --> 01:11:19,013 Alps, trees, sunlight. 990 01:11:21,581 --> 01:11:23,670 The hospital was down the mountainside 991 01:11:23,670 --> 01:11:25,237 from where we lived. 992 01:11:27,195 --> 01:11:29,894 I remember running down this hill, 993 01:11:29,894 --> 01:11:32,200 ran up to this plate glass window 994 01:11:32,853 --> 01:11:36,553 and in the plate glass window was a nurse holding my sister. 995 01:11:39,033 --> 01:11:40,426 It was just amazing. 996 01:11:41,471 --> 01:11:43,124 It was wonderful to have a sister. 997 01:11:46,127 --> 01:11:48,434 My daughter had a square smile 998 01:11:48,956 --> 01:11:49,957 just like mine. 999 01:11:51,698 --> 01:11:54,484 But her birth was traumatic. 1000 01:11:56,268 --> 01:11:58,009 She was two months early 1001 01:11:58,444 --> 01:12:00,620 and I was still trying to get clean. 1002 01:12:02,013 --> 01:12:03,928 We laid low in Switzerland. 1003 01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,452 The cops couldn't get us here. 1004 01:12:07,714 --> 01:12:11,022 I was given the name Dandelion when I was born. 1005 01:12:11,022 --> 01:12:13,372 I completely blame my brother for that one. 1006 01:12:13,807 --> 01:12:17,289 Some evil vendetta. 1007 01:12:17,289 --> 01:12:19,639 Having a baby sister, maybe he was like, 1008 01:12:19,639 --> 01:12:24,252 "Yes, you shall be named Dandelion." 1009 01:12:24,818 --> 01:12:26,820 Maybe Marlon will tell you his middle name. 1010 01:12:26,820 --> 01:12:28,039 Oh, for fuck's sake. 1011 01:12:28,518 --> 01:12:32,217 Marlon Leon Sundeep Richards. 1012 01:12:32,478 --> 01:12:36,482 Leon Sundeep spells LSD. 1013 01:12:38,745 --> 01:12:41,444 So I went to my father and I told him. 1014 01:12:41,444 --> 01:12:45,622 I said, "Is this coincidence or is this intentional?" 1015 01:12:45,622 --> 01:12:47,188 And he chuckled and he said, 1016 01:12:47,188 --> 01:12:49,277 "Your mother had a sense of humor, didn't she?" 1017 01:13:01,942 --> 01:13:05,337 In Switzerland, we are a normal family 1018 01:13:05,337 --> 01:13:06,512 with growing children. 1019 01:13:06,773 --> 01:13:08,296 And we are outside a lot. 1020 01:13:09,863 --> 01:13:11,082 We play 1021 01:13:11,343 --> 01:13:14,128 and we do all of the things that families do. 1022 01:13:18,872 --> 01:13:22,441 In the winter, we are skiing and tobogganing 1023 01:13:22,441 --> 01:13:24,312 almost every single day. 1024 01:13:26,706 --> 01:13:29,056 Switzerland actually was quite happy, 1025 01:13:30,406 --> 01:13:32,190 and it felt like a skiing holiday. 1026 01:13:32,973 --> 01:13:35,193 Everyone wearing snow suits and all that sort of stuff. 1027 01:13:37,151 --> 01:13:39,676 The ski run was down the road. 1028 01:13:41,460 --> 01:13:44,071 Literally, just walk out the door, get up on a ski lift, 1029 01:13:44,071 --> 01:13:46,465 go up to the top, and then you'd ski down the mountain. 1030 01:13:46,465 --> 01:13:47,901 You'd ski right to your house. 1031 01:13:50,034 --> 01:13:52,602 It was a very domestic time. It was a very settled time. 1032 01:13:55,996 --> 01:13:58,129 Keith and Anita were really good skiers by this point. 1033 01:13:58,999 --> 01:14:00,392 To learn to ski when you're like 1034 01:14:00,392 --> 01:14:02,525 in the deepest depths of addiction 1035 01:14:03,090 --> 01:14:04,701 is just unbelievable. 1036 01:14:04,701 --> 01:14:06,833 I mean, it's nothing you'd generally take up. 1037 01:14:06,833 --> 01:14:08,661 It's not the idea of like, "Oh, I'm gonna, you know, 1038 01:14:08,661 --> 01:14:10,358 go down a mountain every day, 1039 01:14:10,358 --> 01:14:11,969 do massive shot of heroin 1040 01:14:12,578 --> 01:14:14,580 and gonna go on the black run." 1041 01:14:33,207 --> 01:14:36,384 We met these wonderful rich boys in Geneva. 1042 01:14:40,301 --> 01:14:42,478 They turned out to be very loyal. 1043 01:14:44,915 --> 01:14:47,221 The best friends we ever had. 1044 01:14:51,138 --> 01:14:53,053 When I meet Anita, 1045 01:14:53,053 --> 01:14:55,360 she was a very unpredictable person, 1046 01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:56,883 which is something I liked. 1047 01:14:57,754 --> 01:14:59,886 You know, in Switzerland, in social dates, 1048 01:15:00,321 --> 01:15:03,107 to meet somebody unpredictable 1049 01:15:03,107 --> 01:15:07,024 is like putting a bit adventure in your life. 1050 01:15:09,679 --> 01:15:10,723 She had values 1051 01:15:11,376 --> 01:15:13,813 and then she would throw them out of the window in one second. 1052 01:15:14,422 --> 01:15:17,034 You know, to us, she was somebody like dangerous. 1053 01:15:17,382 --> 01:15:18,949 You know, we loved her. 1054 01:15:18,949 --> 01:15:21,560 She created this anarchy that we needed. 1055 01:15:25,216 --> 01:15:27,435 I was surprised to see them 1056 01:15:27,435 --> 01:15:30,308 move into that tiny chalet lost in Villars. 1057 01:15:31,309 --> 01:15:34,138 You know, I mean, what the hell were they doing there? 1058 01:15:34,138 --> 01:15:36,009 And enjoying themselves, it seemed. 1059 01:15:38,142 --> 01:15:40,100 But there was a lot of dramas. 1060 01:15:43,016 --> 01:15:46,542 Anita was sometimes furious and screaming 1061 01:15:46,890 --> 01:15:50,371 and terrorizing everybody, you know, 1062 01:15:50,371 --> 01:15:52,112 and throwing things around. 1063 01:15:52,112 --> 01:15:55,812 And then an hour later, she would appear. 1064 01:15:56,639 --> 01:15:58,118 She would serve you tea. 1065 01:15:59,119 --> 01:16:02,035 She was creating this constant chaos. 1066 01:16:05,561 --> 01:16:07,998 If anything was bothering her, 1067 01:16:07,998 --> 01:16:10,043 she wouldn't wanna talk about it. 1068 01:16:11,218 --> 01:16:14,570 And I'd say, "Oh, we have to sit down and talk about this." 1069 01:16:14,570 --> 01:16:16,659 It was not an option with Anita. 1070 01:16:16,659 --> 01:16:19,183 You know, it was, you know, 1071 01:16:19,183 --> 01:16:22,578 a plate come flying through the room. 1072 01:16:23,927 --> 01:16:28,888 I think junk, for her, was almost necessary 1073 01:16:28,888 --> 01:16:30,760 just to suppress the energy. 1074 01:16:32,675 --> 01:16:34,851 There was a maelstrom in her head. 1075 01:16:35,329 --> 01:16:37,723 She was agitated by voices 1076 01:16:37,723 --> 01:16:40,508 that she couldn't control sometimes. 1077 01:16:43,555 --> 01:16:45,905 Keith said that he was taking a lot of drugs 1078 01:16:45,905 --> 01:16:48,908 because of the pressure of being a Rolling Stone. 1079 01:16:53,870 --> 01:16:57,134 We were always waiting for the drugs to arrive. 1080 01:16:58,701 --> 01:17:02,182 I would try to stop Keith and he would try to stop me, 1081 01:17:03,793 --> 01:17:05,795 but we never stopped ourselves. 1082 01:17:08,101 --> 01:17:10,147 The straight road had been lost. 1083 01:17:12,628 --> 01:17:14,064 They never went to bed 1084 01:17:14,064 --> 01:17:16,632 before six or eight o'clock in the morning. 1085 01:17:19,025 --> 01:17:22,159 They are not in a state of taking care really of the kids. 1086 01:17:26,163 --> 01:17:28,556 Marlon was considered an adult. 1087 01:17:32,648 --> 01:17:33,866 One night, 1088 01:17:33,866 --> 01:17:36,216 we're all going to see Dr. Feelgood. 1089 01:17:39,524 --> 01:17:42,440 And Anita rambles about something. 1090 01:17:43,571 --> 01:17:47,053 And Marlon, you know, he leans in front of the camera. 1091 01:17:47,053 --> 01:17:49,882 He says, "Mama, don't talk. Don't talk." 1092 01:17:51,579 --> 01:17:53,886 - Mama, don't talk. - All right. 1093 01:17:56,106 --> 01:17:58,238 Marlon was a commanding force. 1094 01:18:00,588 --> 01:18:02,895 And he had a lot on his shoulders. 1095 01:18:03,722 --> 01:18:06,420 A lot on his shoulders, 'cause he was sometimes 1096 01:18:06,420 --> 01:18:08,379 the man in the house. 1097 01:18:21,566 --> 01:18:24,177 We were constantly being left alone 1098 01:18:24,177 --> 01:18:26,092 while Keith went off on tour. 1099 01:18:27,659 --> 01:18:29,313 I think after the first tour we did, 1100 01:18:29,313 --> 01:18:30,618 my mother found it too exhausting 1101 01:18:30,618 --> 01:18:32,359 having a small child on tour. 1102 01:18:39,802 --> 01:18:41,107 Being a mother, 1103 01:18:41,412 --> 01:18:43,544 she found a very chauvinistic environment. 1104 01:18:43,806 --> 01:18:44,981 Very ugly. 1105 01:18:51,030 --> 01:18:52,553 It's a very unhealthy environment, 1106 01:18:52,553 --> 01:18:56,122 psychologically, physically, and definitely mentally. 1107 01:19:01,475 --> 01:19:04,130 It was only there for the four or five people 1108 01:19:04,130 --> 01:19:06,132 who were on stage every night. 1109 01:19:08,831 --> 01:19:10,876 There was no interest in anyone else, really. 1110 01:19:16,490 --> 01:19:19,015 The Stones had become a corporation. 1111 01:19:21,234 --> 01:19:22,845 The guys in suits. 1112 01:19:24,368 --> 01:19:26,065 The nebula of yes men. 1113 01:19:27,632 --> 01:19:29,199 The wheel was set in motion. 1114 01:19:31,375 --> 01:19:33,246 It was a totally different scene. 1115 01:19:34,726 --> 01:19:36,859 The band was like an organism, 1116 01:19:36,859 --> 01:19:38,686 a multifaceted one. 1117 01:19:39,296 --> 01:19:40,993 Jade Jagger calls it the Org, 1118 01:19:41,559 --> 01:19:43,822 or the Bus is another good word she calls it. 1119 01:19:43,822 --> 01:19:45,215 The Bus comes first. 1120 01:19:49,697 --> 01:19:51,874 You can get off the bus, you can get on the bus, 1121 01:19:51,874 --> 01:19:53,440 but the bus is always going somewhere 1122 01:19:53,440 --> 01:19:54,877 and it's always on the move. 1123 01:20:04,930 --> 01:20:08,064 The Bus isn't healthy and you have to get off it. 1124 01:20:23,819 --> 01:20:27,257 When he came home, Keith got stoned a lot. 1125 01:20:31,609 --> 01:20:34,177 He also spent a lot of time sleeping. 1126 01:20:39,486 --> 01:20:41,793 But one night, we got romantic 1127 01:20:46,667 --> 01:20:48,321 and I fell pregnant again. 1128 01:20:53,152 --> 01:20:55,459 My parents told me we're gonna have another baby. 1129 01:20:56,416 --> 01:20:57,809 They were very excited. 1130 01:21:00,246 --> 01:21:02,118 I remember Anita thinking it was a 1131 01:21:02,118 --> 01:21:03,554 sort of new lease on life. 1132 01:21:06,252 --> 01:21:08,254 It brought them together more, obviously, 1133 01:21:08,254 --> 01:21:10,039 for a short period of time at least. 1134 01:21:12,476 --> 01:21:14,870 For him, you know, the more, the merrier really. 1135 01:21:15,914 --> 01:21:18,612 But then he didn't really have to deal with, you know, 1136 01:21:18,612 --> 01:21:22,921 for, A, childbirth and, you know, B, child-rearing. 1137 01:21:28,187 --> 01:21:30,450 Tara was a beautiful baby. 1138 01:21:31,190 --> 01:21:32,539 I was over the moon. 1139 01:21:33,976 --> 01:21:36,630 I was constantly with him in my arms. 1140 01:21:45,683 --> 01:21:47,859 Tara was born prematurely. 1141 01:21:49,992 --> 01:21:52,037 And I do remember him coming home and seeing him 1142 01:21:52,037 --> 01:21:54,779 and then him having to go back to the hospital quite a lot. 1143 01:21:55,345 --> 01:21:56,999 Back and forth, back and forth. 1144 01:22:01,481 --> 01:22:02,874 There were complications. 1145 01:22:03,266 --> 01:22:05,398 My parents were very concerned about that. 1146 01:22:08,532 --> 01:22:11,448 I remember being at the hospital, 1147 01:22:12,492 --> 01:22:13,929 helping her out. 1148 01:22:16,627 --> 01:22:18,107 Keith wasn't around 1149 01:22:18,368 --> 01:22:20,152 and Anita was, at that time, 1150 01:22:20,587 --> 01:22:22,067 I guess a bit alone. 1151 01:22:26,724 --> 01:22:29,248 She was supposed to have people looking after her. 1152 01:22:30,075 --> 01:22:31,598 They just weren't, at some point, 1153 01:22:31,598 --> 01:22:32,948 and left her on her own. 1154 01:22:34,819 --> 01:22:37,561 And I think Anita felt abandoned by everyone. 1155 01:22:48,528 --> 01:22:51,836 On that fatal night, I was at a party. 1156 01:22:54,230 --> 01:22:55,971 Suddenly the phone rang 1157 01:22:56,493 --> 01:22:58,321 and I don't know how she found me. 1158 01:22:58,321 --> 01:22:59,670 I don't know who found me. 1159 01:23:02,194 --> 01:23:04,283 She was screaming and she was... 1160 01:23:04,675 --> 01:23:06,198 She was in a state. 1161 01:23:08,853 --> 01:23:10,333 I went to the house. 1162 01:23:13,553 --> 01:23:17,427 This house was just like chaos itself. 1163 01:23:19,037 --> 01:23:20,996 I tried to make Tara breathe 1164 01:23:20,996 --> 01:23:25,652 but the kid was cold and stiff. 1165 01:23:30,396 --> 01:23:32,833 I think I fainted at one point. 1166 01:23:33,312 --> 01:23:35,227 It was so difficult. 1167 01:23:36,620 --> 01:23:40,189 Anita was completely out of control. 1168 01:23:41,451 --> 01:23:43,279 She cried. She screamed. 1169 01:23:43,279 --> 01:23:46,543 She was... She was... it was terrible. 1170 01:23:47,065 --> 01:23:50,677 She had this animal thing that came out, you know? 1171 01:23:50,677 --> 01:23:54,420 Like she wanted to... She wanted him to be alive. 1172 01:23:57,467 --> 01:24:00,600 And it was an extremely sad moment. 1173 01:24:09,522 --> 01:24:13,048 Keith was in Paris the night I believe he heard. 1174 01:24:14,571 --> 01:24:17,008 There's a bit of footage from the concert. 1175 01:24:18,749 --> 01:24:21,186 He insisted on going on stage that night. 1176 01:24:21,665 --> 01:24:23,797 The band, from what I gather, was saying, 1177 01:24:23,797 --> 01:24:25,799 "No, you can't. Your son's just died." 1178 01:24:26,148 --> 01:24:28,498 But he insisted the show must go on. 1179 01:24:29,107 --> 01:24:31,675 I supposed he played very well. Very, very well. 1180 01:25:00,182 --> 01:25:01,226 Yeah! 1181 01:25:08,059 --> 01:25:09,887 Tara had died a crib death. 1182 01:25:11,671 --> 01:25:13,499 He was only 10 weeks old. 1183 01:25:17,286 --> 01:25:18,678 I was heartbroken. 1184 01:25:22,204 --> 01:25:24,945 The Swiss doctors told me it wasn't my fault. 1185 01:25:27,078 --> 01:25:30,603 But if I'd been more together, could I have done something? 1186 01:25:39,438 --> 01:25:41,005 Keith never blamed me. 1187 01:25:41,658 --> 01:25:42,833 He's not like that. 1188 01:25:45,314 --> 01:25:46,706 But I blame myself. 1189 01:25:48,839 --> 01:25:50,449 I had a nervous breakdown. 1190 01:25:57,456 --> 01:26:00,894 Tara, he's never... he's never really been 1191 01:26:00,894 --> 01:26:02,331 talked about, to be honest, 1192 01:26:04,071 --> 01:26:05,595 but his memory's there. 1193 01:26:06,552 --> 01:26:09,555 But Marlon and I find it hard, and my mom never talked about it 1194 01:26:09,555 --> 01:26:11,253 and my dad never talks about it. 1195 01:26:11,905 --> 01:26:15,213 And I think maybe now, as we're getting older, 1196 01:26:15,213 --> 01:26:16,432 we probably should have... 1197 01:26:17,172 --> 01:26:19,957 probably could've talked to Mom about it a bit more, but... 1198 01:26:20,653 --> 01:26:23,178 It wasn't really much of a topic, shall we say. 1199 01:26:23,917 --> 01:26:25,832 It was never really brought up much again. 1200 01:26:26,137 --> 01:26:27,182 It was too painful. 1201 01:26:27,921 --> 01:26:30,489 I think they just couldn't cope, either of them. 1202 01:26:35,842 --> 01:26:38,758 I had to take Angela and put her with my mother, 1203 01:26:40,499 --> 01:26:42,936 'cause it was incredibly sad for us. 1204 01:26:45,330 --> 01:26:49,247 But given the circumstances, it was the only decision. 1205 01:26:54,557 --> 01:26:56,211 I think we were in a hotel. 1206 01:26:58,125 --> 01:26:59,518 I don't know what hotel we were in 1207 01:26:59,518 --> 01:27:01,694 but my nan and Bill came and picked me up. 1208 01:27:02,434 --> 01:27:04,436 And my mom was just... She was just in bed. 1209 01:27:04,436 --> 01:27:06,569 She didn't really know that I was leaving. 1210 01:27:06,569 --> 01:27:07,831 She didn't say goodbye. 1211 01:27:08,223 --> 01:27:11,356 She was pretty much out of it, I would say, probably. 1212 01:27:11,835 --> 01:27:14,446 And my nan and Bill came and got my little suitcase, 1213 01:27:14,446 --> 01:27:16,187 and that was it, I just went. 1214 01:27:19,712 --> 01:27:22,541 I don't know what I was told at the time. 1215 01:27:22,541 --> 01:27:24,543 I think I was just going there for a little while 1216 01:27:24,543 --> 01:27:27,329 while my mom was just sorting herself out, 1217 01:27:27,329 --> 01:27:28,591 and my dad was as well. 1218 01:27:31,594 --> 01:27:33,726 Angela would have been four years old. 1219 01:27:34,205 --> 01:27:36,076 Just went on permanently from then. 1220 01:27:38,862 --> 01:27:40,255 We were split up. 1221 01:27:42,169 --> 01:27:43,910 She stayed in England 1222 01:27:44,302 --> 01:27:46,261 and we went to live in the States. 1223 01:27:51,527 --> 01:27:53,442 Maybe it was just a new start. 1224 01:27:53,442 --> 01:27:54,791 Maybe that sort of thing. 1225 01:27:54,791 --> 01:27:56,401 I mean, it's somewhere different. 1226 01:27:56,401 --> 01:27:57,489 Yeah. 1227 01:28:00,362 --> 01:28:01,754 It was like a new life. 1228 01:28:04,235 --> 01:28:06,106 My idea of America was The Brady Bunch. 1229 01:28:06,585 --> 01:28:09,327 But we were in the middle of nowhere. Upstate New York. 1230 01:28:12,156 --> 01:28:14,724 My parents weren't getting on very well at that point. 1231 01:28:16,900 --> 01:28:19,032 Keith was, I think, just doing his sort of shit, 1232 01:28:19,032 --> 01:28:21,078 fucking off and disappearing for weeks on end. 1233 01:28:23,602 --> 01:28:25,125 It was basically a lawyered decision 1234 01:28:25,125 --> 01:28:27,432 to some degree that they should... 1235 01:28:27,911 --> 01:28:29,782 He was either told to like, you know, 1236 01:28:29,782 --> 01:28:32,307 choose The Rolling Stones or choose her. 1237 01:28:32,785 --> 01:28:33,830 You can't have both 1238 01:28:34,309 --> 01:28:36,659 because you're self-destructing if you stay with her. 1239 01:28:38,748 --> 01:28:40,880 And I'm sure she told the lawyers 1240 01:28:41,228 --> 01:28:42,491 to go fuck themselves. 1241 01:28:43,753 --> 01:28:45,407 And she probably threw something at them. 1242 01:28:55,504 --> 01:28:57,810 I moved in with Anita and Marlon 1243 01:28:58,115 --> 01:29:01,074 in July of '78. 1244 01:29:02,685 --> 01:29:04,295 Anita hired me 1245 01:29:04,687 --> 01:29:06,993 to be the governess or nanny for Marlon. 1246 01:29:08,168 --> 01:29:10,301 My masters was in Special Ed. 1247 01:29:10,301 --> 01:29:12,564 And it was my understanding from Anita 1248 01:29:12,564 --> 01:29:14,392 that he was "home-schooled." 1249 01:29:14,392 --> 01:29:15,915 He had never been to school. 1250 01:29:16,176 --> 01:29:17,264 And he was eight. 1251 01:29:18,614 --> 01:29:20,485 But Marlon was amazing. 1252 01:29:20,877 --> 01:29:22,531 He was a brilliant little boy. 1253 01:29:24,097 --> 01:29:27,536 And I just tried to normalize suburban living, 1254 01:29:27,536 --> 01:29:28,754 going to school, 1255 01:29:28,754 --> 01:29:30,756 being an eight-year-old kid having fun. 1256 01:29:36,501 --> 01:29:40,984 Anita was just in this very small... 1257 01:29:42,551 --> 01:29:45,118 closed provincial community, 1258 01:29:45,858 --> 01:29:47,382 bored out of her mind, 1259 01:29:48,644 --> 01:29:51,516 just getting off of the loss of a child, 1260 01:29:51,821 --> 01:29:54,519 and she was dependent on the record company 1261 01:29:54,519 --> 01:29:56,086 for just about everything. 1262 01:29:56,913 --> 01:30:01,134 They had quite a bit of control over her life. 1263 01:30:02,135 --> 01:30:05,661 She did not have possession of her own passport, 1264 01:30:06,313 --> 01:30:10,317 so she was pretty much at their mercy 1265 01:30:10,317 --> 01:30:13,886 and needed to ask permission to travel. 1266 01:30:16,106 --> 01:30:18,021 She was a caged animal. 1267 01:30:21,590 --> 01:30:23,853 I think she was really angry, yeah. 1268 01:30:25,550 --> 01:30:29,075 I think the whole situation wore her down after a bit. 1269 01:30:32,165 --> 01:30:33,515 She was very lonely up there. 1270 01:30:33,906 --> 01:30:36,431 And she befriended this young guy. 1271 01:30:37,257 --> 01:30:39,477 He was 17, 18-ish. 1272 01:30:41,218 --> 01:30:43,263 Scott and his cousin 1273 01:30:43,655 --> 01:30:46,353 did a lot of odd jobs around the community. 1274 01:30:48,530 --> 01:30:51,663 They seemed to kind of be knockabouts. 1275 01:30:53,970 --> 01:30:57,147 Anita was very lenient, very laid-back, 1276 01:30:57,147 --> 01:30:59,758 and, you know, "Help yourself." 1277 01:31:00,629 --> 01:31:03,327 They were just friends until... 1278 01:31:05,155 --> 01:31:06,417 until they weren't. 1279 01:31:07,418 --> 01:31:12,597 You know, he might not have been a minor, 1280 01:31:13,119 --> 01:31:16,166 but, in my mind, he was just... 1281 01:31:16,514 --> 01:31:17,994 he was just too... 1282 01:31:17,994 --> 01:31:19,169 He was a kid. 1283 01:31:21,563 --> 01:31:24,957 My grandmother kept me very sheltered 1284 01:31:24,957 --> 01:31:28,570 about my mom and my father's lifestyles. 1285 01:31:29,266 --> 01:31:31,355 But I'd go out there in the summer holidays 1286 01:31:31,355 --> 01:31:32,487 and see them. 1287 01:31:32,922 --> 01:31:35,315 The relationship was definitely a bit stifled. 1288 01:31:35,707 --> 01:31:37,230 Old-fashioned, my nan would say. 1289 01:31:37,230 --> 01:31:39,842 She just didn't really see what was, you know, 1290 01:31:39,842 --> 01:31:42,801 what was going on or understand it. 1291 01:31:42,801 --> 01:31:44,542 And, you know, she was... 1292 01:31:44,542 --> 01:31:46,588 She was bad mom in my nan's eyes. 1293 01:31:51,070 --> 01:31:54,160 When Keith's mom came to visit with Angela, 1294 01:31:55,031 --> 01:31:58,164 Anita treated her like she was made of glass. 1295 01:31:58,774 --> 01:32:00,776 She just would sit and look at her 1296 01:32:00,776 --> 01:32:03,126 and, you know, talk about her dress, 1297 01:32:03,126 --> 01:32:05,781 and admire her. 1298 01:32:05,781 --> 01:32:07,086 Admire her. 1299 01:32:07,086 --> 01:32:08,566 And I think she was longing 1300 01:32:08,566 --> 01:32:09,915 but she didn't wanna get too close 1301 01:32:09,915 --> 01:32:11,264 'cause she knew they were leaving. 1302 01:32:12,875 --> 01:32:15,355 She held a lot against Doris, 1303 01:32:16,269 --> 01:32:19,359 the reason why she didn't have Angela with her. 1304 01:32:28,499 --> 01:32:32,024 It was the last day of school, July 28th, 1979. 1305 01:32:32,677 --> 01:32:33,809 I was like ten. 1306 01:32:35,506 --> 01:32:37,552 I'd just finished summer school. 1307 01:32:40,337 --> 01:32:41,599 Got off the bus. 1308 01:32:43,775 --> 01:32:46,996 No one was home really. At least, I didn't think so. 1309 01:32:48,824 --> 01:32:50,521 So I walked in, made a sandwich. 1310 01:32:51,174 --> 01:32:52,784 Sat down, turned the TV on. 1311 01:32:52,784 --> 01:32:55,874 man: It was an exciting time ten years ago today. 1312 01:32:56,483 --> 01:32:59,182 Watched this ABC Special on the moon landings. 1313 01:32:59,878 --> 01:33:02,577 Neil Armstrong: Houston, the Eagle has landed. 1314 01:33:04,927 --> 01:33:07,451 I didn't realize Anita was even in the house. 1315 01:33:08,104 --> 01:33:10,149 And then I hear a loud bang. 1316 01:33:11,586 --> 01:33:12,935 And then a scream. 1317 01:33:14,110 --> 01:33:18,375 Anita came down in a night gown, just covered in blood. 1318 01:33:18,636 --> 01:33:21,421 Screaming, saying, "Oh, my God. Scott's blown his head off," 1319 01:33:21,421 --> 01:33:23,206 or shot himself or something like that 1320 01:33:23,206 --> 01:33:24,337 and freaking out. 1321 01:33:24,729 --> 01:33:26,688 She was losing her shit. Losing her shit. 1322 01:33:28,341 --> 01:33:30,430 I remember running upstairs rather morbidly. 1323 01:33:32,563 --> 01:33:33,738 The TV was on. 1324 01:33:34,565 --> 01:33:36,306 They'd been watching Deer Hunter. 1325 01:33:39,962 --> 01:33:41,877 And the Russian roulette scene came up 1326 01:33:41,877 --> 01:33:43,269 and he decided to emulate it. 1327 01:33:44,053 --> 01:33:45,315 And, unfortunately, he lost. 1328 01:33:53,453 --> 01:33:55,107 I remember going around the room 1329 01:33:55,368 --> 01:33:58,458 because I was always taught as a child to clean up. 1330 01:33:59,372 --> 01:34:01,940 If there's anything dodgy around, get rid of it. 1331 01:34:03,289 --> 01:34:04,900 There was like drug paraphernalia around, 1332 01:34:04,900 --> 01:34:07,206 so I kind of scooped it into a bag or something 1333 01:34:07,206 --> 01:34:08,512 and threw it in the rubbish. 1334 01:34:09,426 --> 01:34:11,254 And then I remembered, "Oh, shit, the pistols." 1335 01:34:12,690 --> 01:34:14,910 The guns in the house were Keith's. 1336 01:34:16,433 --> 01:34:18,957 So I kind of took those and put those away too 1337 01:34:18,957 --> 01:34:20,567 'cause I knew the cops were coming. 1338 01:34:23,005 --> 01:34:24,963 And there was 25 cop cars around. 1339 01:34:24,963 --> 01:34:27,357 They hauled her off to jail, I think, for a bit. 1340 01:34:28,793 --> 01:34:31,578 Searched the house for dirty bits, all that. 1341 01:34:33,450 --> 01:34:35,147 It was very, very dark. 1342 01:34:37,019 --> 01:34:41,153 We were drifting a little anyway. 1343 01:34:43,590 --> 01:34:47,246 It was at that point, I had to actually say to Anita, 1344 01:34:47,246 --> 01:34:49,205 "I'm not living with you anymore." 1345 01:34:51,729 --> 01:34:55,690 I really had to say, you know, "Look, I have to leave." 1346 01:34:59,998 --> 01:35:01,696 It wasn't safe to stay there. 1347 01:35:02,653 --> 01:35:04,089 We pretty much moved out that night. 1348 01:35:04,089 --> 01:35:05,830 That was it. We were out of that house. 1349 01:35:08,050 --> 01:35:11,053 She had to go off and be coached by lawyers. 1350 01:35:14,404 --> 01:35:17,799 I was whisked off to Paris to stay with my father. 1351 01:35:19,801 --> 01:35:22,368 The next time I saw her was like four months later. 1352 01:35:22,368 --> 01:35:24,153 She was living in a hotel in New York. 1353 01:35:29,114 --> 01:35:31,377 All I heard was the click of a gun. 1354 01:35:35,817 --> 01:35:40,082 It was someone's life and I'd had my back turned. 1355 01:35:44,956 --> 01:35:46,784 I felt like some nasty person 1356 01:35:46,784 --> 01:35:49,091 who caused death and destruction around her. 1357 01:35:56,533 --> 01:35:59,623 I slid further into the depths of heroin addiction, 1358 01:36:03,409 --> 01:36:05,934 scoring on the streets of Alphabet City. 1359 01:36:07,196 --> 01:36:09,633 I started stealing drugs from my friends. 1360 01:36:15,857 --> 01:36:17,032 I sat in the Mudd Club 1361 01:36:17,032 --> 01:36:19,295 and watched my former self on video. 1362 01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:26,563 I felt totally at the mercy of dark powers, 1363 01:36:29,914 --> 01:36:31,307 the living dead. 1364 01:36:40,882 --> 01:36:44,015 She just descended. Descended pretty badly. 1365 01:36:47,540 --> 01:36:49,847 She painted herself into a corner pretty much. 1366 01:36:52,110 --> 01:36:53,764 She was such a nightmare that I think 1367 01:36:53,764 --> 01:36:55,505 basically she was her own worst enemy. 1368 01:37:06,908 --> 01:37:07,996 In the end, 1369 01:37:08,779 --> 01:37:10,955 it was the alcohol that brought me down. 1370 01:37:13,610 --> 01:37:16,743 I was so drunk, I'd fallen off the bed. 1371 01:37:20,225 --> 01:37:22,271 And that's where they found me. 1372 01:37:27,711 --> 01:37:28,930 But I survived. 1373 01:37:31,454 --> 01:37:33,195 I wasn't sure that I would. 1374 01:37:36,807 --> 01:37:38,200 By that point, especially, 1375 01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:39,854 she'd seen enough people dying off. 1376 01:37:40,158 --> 01:37:42,508 She knew that if she didn't clean up, 1377 01:37:42,508 --> 01:37:43,683 it would be her. 1378 01:37:44,119 --> 01:37:45,120 Yeah. 1379 01:37:49,559 --> 01:37:52,388 She went off and did some rehab. 1380 01:37:53,911 --> 01:37:55,304 She went to one place 1381 01:37:55,304 --> 01:37:56,783 in the middle of nowhere pretty much. 1382 01:37:59,090 --> 01:38:02,398 All the counselors were these huge ex, like, military types. 1383 01:38:03,747 --> 01:38:06,663 She had to sit in the middle of this room with her sponsor, 1384 01:38:06,663 --> 01:38:09,013 and me and my sister and her sister. 1385 01:38:09,492 --> 01:38:12,582 And she had to read out like a massive essay 1386 01:38:12,582 --> 01:38:15,150 she wrote to each of us with what she'd done wrong to us 1387 01:38:15,585 --> 01:38:17,456 over the years and apologize to us. 1388 01:38:17,456 --> 01:38:19,241 And it was heartbreaking. It really was. 1389 01:38:21,852 --> 01:38:24,159 I thought I'd broken all the bridges. 1390 01:38:25,464 --> 01:38:28,032 I thought the children wouldn't wanna know me anymore. 1391 01:38:31,122 --> 01:38:33,516 It's been a very difficult journey 1392 01:38:33,516 --> 01:38:34,909 for me and Marlon. 1393 01:38:36,127 --> 01:38:39,914 Sometimes we had... my dad. 1394 01:38:39,914 --> 01:38:43,700 He sat down with me one day and he explained it all 1395 01:38:45,441 --> 01:38:46,572 and broke down. 1396 01:38:48,879 --> 01:38:50,315 Yeah, it's hard. 1397 01:38:55,407 --> 01:38:58,933 Just, you know, they weren't in a good place. 1398 01:39:03,198 --> 01:39:06,462 But I've never wanted an apology. 1399 01:39:08,638 --> 01:39:11,032 I just think if you're proving yourself 1400 01:39:11,032 --> 01:39:13,686 and changing your life and wanting to do better, 1401 01:39:13,948 --> 01:39:16,646 I'll take that as an apology. 1402 01:39:23,218 --> 01:39:26,656 In NA, when you're in recovery, 1403 01:39:27,918 --> 01:39:29,702 we look back at our past, 1404 01:39:30,529 --> 01:39:33,010 we look at everything that we've done, 1405 01:39:33,402 --> 01:39:35,056 and assess it. 1406 01:39:35,056 --> 01:39:37,232 We don't judge it but we assess it, 1407 01:39:37,232 --> 01:39:40,931 and we don't leave anything behind closed doors. 1408 01:39:45,544 --> 01:39:47,155 When Tara died, 1409 01:39:48,286 --> 01:39:51,202 it must have been extremely difficult for Anita. 1410 01:39:53,552 --> 01:39:56,294 Keith certainly wasn't a father in the... 1411 01:39:56,991 --> 01:40:00,037 in the normal sense of the word. 1412 01:40:05,738 --> 01:40:08,089 To me, she was one of The Rolling Stones. 1413 01:40:09,438 --> 01:40:12,006 She certainly was one of the boys. 1414 01:40:14,486 --> 01:40:17,489 But nobody was there to help her. 1415 01:40:19,578 --> 01:40:21,493 She had a lot of strength and... 1416 01:40:21,493 --> 01:40:23,713 I mean, I don't know how she survived so long. 1417 01:40:32,417 --> 01:40:35,464 I would like to bring Tara's ashes to Rome, 1418 01:40:35,986 --> 01:40:37,379 to the family grave. 1419 01:40:42,906 --> 01:40:44,864 Can I lay to rest the ghosts 1420 01:40:45,256 --> 01:40:47,606 that have haunted me for so many years? 1421 01:40:54,048 --> 01:40:55,440 I still feel young, 1422 01:40:55,919 --> 01:40:59,879 but I look in the mirror and I realize that I'm not. 1423 01:41:04,667 --> 01:41:06,060 I started writing. 1424 01:41:08,497 --> 01:41:10,238 It was difficult at first 1425 01:41:11,500 --> 01:41:14,068 but the memories came flooding back. 1426 01:41:18,202 --> 01:41:20,596 I knew I had to understand myself 1427 01:41:20,596 --> 01:41:22,337 and the people I grew up with, 1428 01:41:22,902 --> 01:41:25,122 and not be daunted that everyone else 1429 01:41:25,122 --> 01:41:26,993 thinks of them as giants. 1430 01:41:32,477 --> 01:41:34,523 I don't regret anything. 1431 01:41:38,657 --> 01:41:40,181 All the fires I had been through 1432 01:41:40,181 --> 01:41:42,531 had been like a cleansing, 1433 01:41:44,054 --> 01:41:46,578 and fires are extraordinary. 1434 01:41:51,017 --> 01:41:53,846 But I've gotta get my own thing going again. 1435 01:41:57,502 --> 01:42:00,157 She really had two acts in her life, 1436 01:42:00,157 --> 01:42:04,074 and the first act was very different from the second. 1437 01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:06,685 To her credit, she got herself together. 1438 01:42:07,077 --> 01:42:10,428 I mean, not many people did. My old man certainly didn't. 1439 01:42:11,212 --> 01:42:13,953 She got herself together. She got sober, you know? 1440 01:42:13,953 --> 01:42:15,477 She got the wake-up call. 1441 01:42:23,224 --> 01:42:26,270 I think the desire to not be a victim saved her. 1442 01:42:29,055 --> 01:42:30,448 She wanted to achieve things. 1443 01:42:34,191 --> 01:42:36,802 By the time I was at secondary school, 1444 01:42:37,412 --> 01:42:39,849 she was just much more involved in my life. 1445 01:42:42,112 --> 01:42:44,288 And that's when she started to go to college. 1446 01:42:45,246 --> 01:42:47,161 So we were both students. It was quite funny. 1447 01:42:48,423 --> 01:42:51,861 She said it wasn't easy being that person in there. 1448 01:42:51,861 --> 01:42:54,907 But she said it was great, and she worked really hard. 1449 01:42:55,821 --> 01:42:57,606 I think that gave her a great deal of confidence. 1450 01:42:57,606 --> 01:42:58,824 A great deal of confidence. 1451 01:42:58,824 --> 01:43:00,130 She was so proud of herself, 1452 01:43:00,130 --> 01:43:01,523 and we were all very proud of her. 1453 01:43:02,654 --> 01:43:04,961 I have this picture of her with her hat 1454 01:43:05,222 --> 01:43:06,789 and her certificate, 1455 01:43:06,789 --> 01:43:09,618 grinning, when she graduated. 1456 01:43:13,491 --> 01:43:16,320 Yeah, she talked a lot about going to art school. 1457 01:43:17,539 --> 01:43:19,889 I think she probably found herself, 1458 01:43:19,889 --> 01:43:21,456 like her true self, 1459 01:43:22,196 --> 01:43:23,414 'cause there was nothing, 1460 01:43:23,849 --> 01:43:25,503 you know, none of that Stones thing. 1461 01:43:25,503 --> 01:43:28,767 She was a student. She was with other students. 1462 01:43:28,767 --> 01:43:30,334 And she was just like Anita. 1463 01:43:31,161 --> 01:43:34,730 I didn't know her when she took drugs, so... But... 1464 01:43:37,123 --> 01:43:39,517 she was so interesting without them. 1465 01:43:42,172 --> 01:43:43,956 Anita loved Kate. 1466 01:43:45,306 --> 01:43:47,438 She, you know, took a lot of inspiration 1467 01:43:47,438 --> 01:43:48,831 from the young people she was with. 1468 01:43:48,831 --> 01:43:50,746 She loved hanging out with young people. 1469 01:43:51,529 --> 01:43:54,576 And Kate sort of credited her with her style. 1470 01:43:58,319 --> 01:44:00,146 And that's when she got this reputation 1471 01:44:00,146 --> 01:44:01,539 as a fashion icon. 1472 01:44:08,677 --> 01:44:11,723 I knew about Anita, like, as an icon. 1473 01:44:12,681 --> 01:44:16,250 She was one of my heroes before I met her. 1474 01:44:18,687 --> 01:44:20,341 man: She is a historical figure. 1475 01:44:21,690 --> 01:44:22,821 She's Anita Pallenberg 1476 01:44:23,213 --> 01:44:26,651 and this is a woman who has lived a very intense 1477 01:44:26,651 --> 01:44:27,913 and dangerous life. 1478 01:44:31,830 --> 01:44:33,484 She had the best style. 1479 01:44:34,137 --> 01:44:37,662 I mean, I still try to recreate that stuff. 1480 01:44:39,142 --> 01:44:42,537 It was the original bohemian rock chick 1481 01:44:44,452 --> 01:44:47,281 that people still aspire to today. 1482 01:44:50,284 --> 01:44:52,851 Anita did not agree with plastic surgery. 1483 01:44:52,851 --> 01:44:56,464 She thought it was naff, very unchic. 1484 01:44:59,162 --> 01:45:01,512 She just had such a strong personality. 1485 01:45:02,034 --> 01:45:03,297 She didn't give a fuck. 1486 01:45:05,299 --> 01:45:07,649 And she was everything you want a rock star to be. 1487 01:45:07,649 --> 01:45:10,739 Or like just the... 1488 01:45:10,739 --> 01:45:13,263 For me, everything you want a woman to be. 1489 01:45:16,397 --> 01:45:19,530 You know, we are talking about a one-off here. 1490 01:45:22,359 --> 01:45:24,143 What I loved about Anita was... 1491 01:45:24,143 --> 01:45:28,539 Well, there's a naturalness about how she operated 1492 01:45:29,323 --> 01:45:31,890 and a sort of... almost an innocence about it, 1493 01:45:31,890 --> 01:45:35,720 even in its most Machiavellian form. 1494 01:45:40,334 --> 01:45:42,336 She was my woman. [laughs] 1495 01:45:42,945 --> 01:45:45,339 We stuck together through a lot. 1496 01:45:47,689 --> 01:45:50,779 But it was a total experiment really, 1497 01:45:52,171 --> 01:45:55,174 and it was a hell of an experience, 1498 01:45:55,174 --> 01:45:57,742 but she made a man out of me, and... 1499 01:46:03,618 --> 01:46:06,534 My dad's always said that, "I've always loved your mom 1500 01:46:06,534 --> 01:46:08,231 but I just couldn't live with her," 1501 01:46:08,231 --> 01:46:10,581 which, I'm sure, she probably would say the same 1502 01:46:10,581 --> 01:46:12,627 about him at the time as well. 1503 01:46:18,197 --> 01:46:19,851 Keith's a decent guy. 1504 01:46:24,247 --> 01:46:27,250 He's no angel, but neither am I. 1505 01:46:30,427 --> 01:46:32,908 We've been through too much together to fight. 1506 01:46:38,914 --> 01:46:41,656 He says he's probably gonna die on stage. 1507 01:46:47,923 --> 01:46:51,448 His truth is different to my truth. 1508 01:47:00,892 --> 01:47:02,894 It's funny how life comes around. 1509 01:47:06,985 --> 01:47:08,770 I started acting again. 1510 01:47:10,336 --> 01:47:11,512 Where's my change? 1511 01:47:11,512 --> 01:47:12,687 What, it's $50 a piece? 1512 01:47:12,687 --> 01:47:14,471 Change? Take your change in coconuts 1513 01:47:14,471 --> 01:47:16,430 I used to wipe your ass, for Christ's sake. 1514 01:47:16,430 --> 01:47:17,735 Well, we're even then. 1515 01:47:27,223 --> 01:47:29,225 Get off home, back to your mommy. 1516 01:47:29,617 --> 01:47:31,880 The moment, yeah. Oh, my God. 1517 01:47:35,361 --> 01:47:36,972 Well, it's pretty heavy. 1518 01:47:38,887 --> 01:47:42,760 I never thought I could look even remotely like the Queen. 1519 01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:44,327 But they managed to... 1520 01:47:44,327 --> 01:47:45,589 Even now, the other day, 1521 01:47:45,894 --> 01:47:49,375 I saw it on TV and I said, "My God, I look like her." 1522 01:47:54,946 --> 01:47:58,863 Like, I don't know, I felt part of a social structure and such. 1523 01:47:59,298 --> 01:48:01,083 Having lunch at the Queen's house 1524 01:48:01,083 --> 01:48:03,346 at Buckingham Palace and all of that, 1525 01:48:03,346 --> 01:48:05,740 it's just, for me, it's not where I come from. 1526 01:48:07,219 --> 01:48:09,526 And James Fox from Performance... 1527 01:48:10,788 --> 01:48:12,224 Do you like my physique? 1528 01:48:13,051 --> 01:48:15,097 ...he and I end up in bed again. 1529 01:48:16,359 --> 01:48:18,013 You think people will come? 1530 01:48:19,667 --> 01:48:20,929 Of course, they will. 1531 01:48:23,497 --> 01:48:26,412 They will come to see the greatest show on Earth. 1532 01:48:28,632 --> 01:48:30,721 The scene in bed with James Fox, 1533 01:48:30,721 --> 01:48:33,158 we kind of did that very kind of quietly, 1534 01:48:33,158 --> 01:48:36,553 because we both kind of were traumatized 1535 01:48:36,553 --> 01:48:38,120 by the way we look. 1536 01:48:39,730 --> 01:48:42,254 Obviously, we've both grown older, 1537 01:48:42,254 --> 01:48:44,082 so we gotta play it all very down 1538 01:48:44,082 --> 01:48:46,737 and didn't do any kind of crazy things in it. 1539 01:48:46,737 --> 01:48:48,304 And so, that's fine. 1540 01:48:48,304 --> 01:48:49,523 It's just fine. 1541 01:48:52,134 --> 01:48:55,137 I hope I haven't cleaned my dirty laundry in public, 1542 01:48:58,749 --> 01:49:02,405 but writing this has helped me emerge in my own eyes. 1543 01:49:06,670 --> 01:49:11,196 Reading over what I've written, I get a lump in my throat. 1544 01:49:16,811 --> 01:49:21,032 But it doesn't need to be a doom and gloom kind of story. 1545 01:50:21,702 --> 01:50:22,746 ♪ Crawling 1546 01:50:24,748 --> 01:50:28,317 ♪ Over your window You think I'm confused ♪ 1547 01:50:29,579 --> 01:50:32,234 ♪ I'm waiting For the divergent wasp ♪ 1548 01:50:33,278 --> 01:50:35,541 ♪ To complete my current ruse 1549 01:50:37,543 --> 01:50:39,633 ♪ You use a plate-glass screen ♪ 1550 01:50:41,330 --> 01:50:43,811 ♪ To protect my chosen target 1551 01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:47,466 ♪ But there's An air-pellet hole ♪ 1552 01:50:48,380 --> 01:50:50,905 ♪ I can crawl through to you 1553 01:50:53,864 --> 01:50:56,780 ♪ I am the fly in the ointment ♪ 1554 01:50:56,780 --> 01:50:59,870 ♪ I can spread more disease Than the fleas ♪ 1555 01:50:59,870 --> 01:51:04,222 ♪ Which nibble away At your window display ♪ 1556 01:51:07,312 --> 01:51:10,446 ♪ Yes, I am the fly In the ointment ♪ 1557 01:51:10,446 --> 01:51:13,536 ♪ I shake you down To say please as you ♪ 1558 01:51:13,536 --> 01:51:16,713 ♪ Accept the next dose Of disease ♪ 1559 01:51:19,716 --> 01:51:25,722 ♪ I am the fly, I am the fly 1560 01:51:25,722 --> 01:51:29,160 ♪ Fly in the, Fly in the ointment ♪ 1561 01:51:31,946 --> 01:51:37,952 ♪ I am the fly, I am the fly 1562 01:51:37,952 --> 01:51:41,259 ♪ Fly in the, Fly in the ointment ♪ 1563 01:52:02,193 --> 01:52:08,025 ♪ I am the fly, I am the fly 1564 01:52:08,286 --> 01:52:11,768 ♪ Fly in the, Fly in the ointment ♪ 1565 01:52:14,292 --> 01:52:17,382 ♪ Yes, I am the fly, I am the fly ♪ 1566 01:52:17,382 --> 01:52:20,298 ♪ I am the fly, I am the fly 1567 01:52:20,298 --> 01:52:23,737 ♪ Fly in the, Fly in the ointment ♪ 1568 01:52:26,652 --> 01:52:32,528 ♪ I am the fly, I am the fly 1569 01:52:32,528 --> 01:52:36,271 ♪ Fly in the, Fly in the ointment ♪ 1570 01:52:38,577 --> 01:52:41,624 ♪ Yes, I am the fly, I am the fly ♪ 1571 01:52:41,624 --> 01:52:44,583 ♪ I am the fly, I am the fly 1572 01:52:44,583 --> 01:52:48,196 ♪ Fly in the, Fly in the ointment ♪ 1573 01:52:50,894 --> 01:52:52,766 ♪ I am the fly