1
00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000
Downloaded from
YTS.MX

2
00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000
Official YIFY movies site:
YTS.MX

3
00:03:23,083 --> 00:03:26,753
I just think we were intensely affected
by the beginning of rock 'n' roll,

4
00:03:26,962 --> 00:03:29,131
by Elvis Presley and Lonnie Donegan,

5
00:03:29,297 --> 00:03:31,174
Tommy Steele, The Don Lang Five...

6
00:03:31,341 --> 00:03:34,219
But I really felt the love, the real love of it

7
00:03:34,386 --> 00:03:35,846
is when I heard... Wake Up Little Susie...

8
00:03:36,012 --> 00:03:36,805
by the Everly Brothers.

9
00:03:44,730 --> 00:03:46,773
And I kept on playing it over and over again,

10
00:03:47,107 --> 00:03:48,900
and I kept on hearing these harmonies.

11
00:03:49,317 --> 00:03:50,610
So, when we were singing songs...

12
00:03:50,777 --> 00:03:51,987
heard any Everly Brothers songs,

13
00:03:52,154 --> 00:03:53,947
the three of us would just add a third harmony,

14
00:03:54,239 --> 00:03:55,407
so it would be three-part.

15
00:04:04,666 --> 00:04:05,959
We perfected it from listening...

16
00:04:06,126 --> 00:04:07,627
to those guys and Neil Sedaka,

17
00:04:07,794 --> 00:04:09,171
where he'd actually triple with himself.

18
00:04:09,337 --> 00:04:11,423
So, these three-part harmony songs,

19
00:04:11,757 --> 00:04:13,467
anything like that, we could sing.

20
00:04:13,717 --> 00:04:15,177
We just wanted to get up and play.

21
00:04:15,343 --> 00:04:16,887
Yeah. We just wanted to have fun.

22
00:04:17,053 --> 00:04:19,347
In that degree, it was a hobby.

23
00:04:19,806 --> 00:04:23,810
When did you first get together
and discover you could harmonize?

24
00:04:23,977 --> 00:04:25,103
The first time I remember,

25
00:04:25,270 --> 00:04:27,105
Robin and I were about six,

26
00:04:27,272 --> 00:04:28,315
Barry was nine,

27
00:04:28,482 --> 00:04:30,609
and we sat in the little lounge room

28
00:04:30,776 --> 00:04:33,028
and Barry'd got his first guitar for his birthday

29
00:04:33,153 --> 00:04:35,113
and the first thing we sang was Lollipop.

30
00:04:35,363 --> 00:04:36,114
Which is...

31
00:04:36,281 --> 00:04:37,699
The Mudlarks sort of thing.

32
00:04:37,866 --> 00:04:39,993
We just automatically harmonized.

33
00:04:40,744 --> 00:04:41,870
Don't ask me where we got Lollipop,

34
00:04:42,037 --> 00:04:42,954
but it was the only one...

35
00:04:43,121 --> 00:04:44,748
that helped us harmonize.

36
00:04:45,165 --> 00:04:46,333
Can you remember it?

37
00:05:01,765 --> 00:05:03,308
We would just sing songs like Lollipop.

38
00:05:03,475 --> 00:05:06,436
We would just sing them
and just try and get them better.

39
00:05:06,937 --> 00:05:09,689
I remember Dad coming in and saying,

40
00:05:09,856 --> 00:05:11,066
"I thought you had the radio on."

41
00:05:11,233 --> 00:05:12,859
That was the beginning of the harmonies.

42
00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:14,861
They became instinctive for us...

43
00:05:15,070 --> 00:05:15,987
because we loved the oldies.

44
00:05:16,154 --> 00:05:18,031
It's incredible, considering how young we were.

45
00:05:18,198 --> 00:05:21,076
I was about nine
and Maurice and Robin were about six.

46
00:05:21,785 --> 00:05:23,787
We often thought we were triplets at one time

47
00:05:23,954 --> 00:05:26,081
because we all had the same goal,

48
00:05:26,248 --> 00:05:28,208
the ultimate goal of just singing together.

49
00:05:28,667 --> 00:05:30,585
I would say we'd be more three brothers...

50
00:05:30,752 --> 00:05:32,170
than twins and an older brother.

51
00:05:32,546 --> 00:05:34,840
Musical creativity ran right through our family.

52
00:05:35,006 --> 00:05:38,134
Our father was a band leader during the war,

53
00:05:38,552 --> 00:05:41,346
and he then led the band on the ferry

54
00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,598
between Liverpool and the Isle of Man.

55
00:05:43,890 --> 00:05:46,017
Work was pretty difficult in the late '50s...

56
00:05:46,184 --> 00:05:47,519
for my dad to come up with.

57
00:05:47,686 --> 00:05:48,979
He needed a fresh start,

58
00:05:49,145 --> 00:05:51,022
and he was still young enough to do that.

59
00:05:51,189 --> 00:05:52,732
And he had a responsibility for us,

60
00:05:52,899 --> 00:05:55,819
So we... It was a natural move, to Australia.

61
00:05:55,986 --> 00:05:58,154
He was a very ambitious man and I liked that.

62
00:05:58,321 --> 00:05:59,447
And we all went.

63
00:05:59,614 --> 00:06:02,367
And it was like a six-week trip across the world.

64
00:06:02,534 --> 00:06:03,368
For us, it was an adventure.

65
00:06:03,535 --> 00:06:05,203
We didn't know where we were going.

66
00:06:05,412 --> 00:06:07,455
We got on a ship called The Fairsea...

67
00:06:07,622 --> 00:06:10,125
with our parents, and baby Andy, and our sister,

68
00:06:10,292 --> 00:06:12,544
and traveled for five weeks to Australia,

69
00:06:12,711 --> 00:06:13,378
with very little money.

70
00:06:13,545 --> 00:06:14,254
We had a ball.

71
00:06:14,421 --> 00:06:16,131
We were singing every day
on the front of the boat...

72
00:06:16,256 --> 00:06:17,340
in the sun.

73
00:06:17,507 --> 00:06:20,510
- And you crossed the Indian Ocean...
- We went on the Fairsea.

74
00:06:20,677 --> 00:06:22,929
...Went through the Suez Canal, the Red Sea,

75
00:06:23,263 --> 00:06:25,765
and you saw things children our age would...

76
00:06:25,932 --> 00:06:27,559
- It was great!
-.. never have seen.

77
00:06:27,726 --> 00:06:29,978
Where we settled was Brisbane,
which is quite tropical,

78
00:06:30,145 --> 00:06:32,355
passion fruit on the streets...

79
00:06:32,522 --> 00:06:34,441
and banana trees in everybody's garden.

80
00:06:34,608 --> 00:06:35,901
And then we started working.

81
00:06:36,192 --> 00:06:38,862
We found different places to go and sing.

82
00:06:39,029 --> 00:06:41,907
We got the opportunity to sing in a racing arena.

83
00:06:42,073 --> 00:06:43,658
We got to know a driver called Bill Goode.

84
00:06:43,825 --> 00:06:45,285
He said, "You can come and sing."

85
00:06:45,452 --> 00:06:47,037
We sang at the Redcliffe speedway...

86
00:06:47,203 --> 00:06:48,455
on the back of a flatbed truck

87
00:06:48,622 --> 00:06:51,374
and collected about 14 pounds off the track.

88
00:06:51,541 --> 00:06:53,543
People threw money on the track.

89
00:06:53,710 --> 00:06:55,837
That was our first public engagement.

90
00:06:56,254 --> 00:06:57,672
The racing driver who got us the gig...

91
00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,633
knew a disc jockey called Bill Gates,

92
00:06:59,799 --> 00:07:01,259
and he told him about us.

93
00:07:01,635 --> 00:07:02,969
And he came, he heard us sing,

94
00:07:03,178 --> 00:07:04,721
and he invited us to the station.

95
00:07:04,888 --> 00:07:06,473
He was a drive-time DJ.

96
00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,309
He christened us the Bee Gees
as a sort of temporary name,

97
00:07:09,476 --> 00:07:12,062
his initials, Brothers Gibb, Barry.

98
00:07:12,479 --> 00:07:15,649
And he asked us to go into his radio station...

99
00:07:15,815 --> 00:07:16,983
and record some songs,

100
00:07:17,150 --> 00:07:18,193
original compositions

101
00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:19,569
Barry had written.

102
00:07:19,736 --> 00:07:21,321
It was Let Me Love You,

103
00:07:21,488 --> 00:07:22,656
Time Is Passing By,

104
00:07:23,114 --> 00:07:24,032
and The Echo Of Your Love.

105
00:07:24,199 --> 00:07:25,951
And he recorded these on acetate.

106
00:07:26,117 --> 00:07:27,994
I n those days, the acetates were the thing.

107
00:07:28,203 --> 00:07:29,162
They didn't have tape...

108
00:07:29,496 --> 00:07:31,206
He played it on his drive-time show...

109
00:07:31,373 --> 00:07:32,123
for a while.

110
00:07:32,499 --> 00:07:33,541
We didn't have a recording contract,

111
00:07:33,708 --> 00:07:34,626
but we were on the radio.

112
00:07:34,793 --> 00:07:36,836
We were only kids and we got the bug,

113
00:07:37,003 --> 00:07:38,880
and we wanted to keep going.

114
00:07:39,047 --> 00:07:40,215
My father then got an agent...

115
00:07:40,382 --> 00:07:41,424
because were getting work...

116
00:07:41,591 --> 00:07:43,677
in the pubs in Brisbane.

117
00:07:43,885 --> 00:07:46,137
And our lives changed, I think, at that point,

118
00:07:46,346 --> 00:07:46,972
because we worked...

119
00:07:47,138 --> 00:07:49,975
and did two to three shows per night.

120
00:07:50,350 --> 00:07:51,768
It sustained our family,

121
00:07:52,018 --> 00:07:54,020
but we never thought we'd get rich doing it.

122
00:07:54,854 --> 00:07:56,272
- You all sing together, right?
- Right.

123
00:07:56,439 --> 00:07:58,858
And your brother Barry plays. Come on up here.

124
00:07:59,025 --> 00:08:00,151
Our first television shows,

125
00:08:00,318 --> 00:08:03,488
I had become very lanky,
very tall and lanky and thin,

126
00:08:03,697 --> 00:08:06,658
and Maurice and Robin were still the same height.

127
00:08:06,825 --> 00:08:09,577
So, what they decided to do
was to get two tea chests

128
00:08:10,495 --> 00:08:12,539
and put Robin and Maurice on each tea chest,

129
00:08:12,872 --> 00:08:14,708
so we'd be the same height for the camera.

130
00:08:14,874 --> 00:08:15,875
You're going to stand up on the higher level.

131
00:08:16,251 --> 00:08:17,002
That's the thing.

132
00:08:17,168 --> 00:08:19,546
Now, is it true you write your own pieces, Barry?

133
00:08:19,713 --> 00:08:20,839
Yes, that's true, Desmond.

134
00:08:21,006 --> 00:08:23,258
- And what was the song we sang?
- Time Is Passing By.

135
00:09:00,879 --> 00:09:01,671
So, we stood there.

136
00:09:01,838 --> 00:09:03,590
I remember Robin and I were stood like this...

137
00:09:03,757 --> 00:09:05,258
with our hands behind our backs going like this.

138
00:09:05,675 --> 00:09:08,636
We didn't know what to do with our hands.

139
00:09:09,095 --> 00:09:11,681
And just standing there going... and singing away.

140
00:09:15,310 --> 00:09:16,853
We used to do all these pop shows,

141
00:09:17,020 --> 00:09:18,146
but they were very live,

142
00:09:18,688 --> 00:09:20,315
and there was no such thing as taping shows.

143
00:09:20,648 --> 00:09:21,983
We did various songs...

144
00:09:22,150 --> 00:09:23,610
we'd either written or heard,

145
00:09:23,777 --> 00:09:25,528
songs that were hits at the time.

146
00:09:25,987 --> 00:09:27,405
There was Lollipop, of course,

147
00:09:27,572 --> 00:09:29,741
and songs that people sang in harmony.

148
00:09:40,627 --> 00:09:41,795
We were quite regulars on those shows

149
00:09:41,961 --> 00:09:43,963
for a while as kids,

150
00:09:44,130 --> 00:09:48,635
but we weren't by any means
a really professional act.

151
00:09:48,802 --> 00:09:49,969
And it was great experience...

152
00:09:50,136 --> 00:09:52,138
because you were on the spot.

153
00:09:52,764 --> 00:09:55,266
Nothing was pre-recorded.

154
00:09:55,517 --> 00:09:57,018
You picked up your guitar,

155
00:09:57,310 --> 00:09:58,853
and you went on, and you played, and you sang.

156
00:10:09,948 --> 00:10:12,617
Between 1960 and 1965...

157
00:10:13,243 --> 00:10:16,121
was the era of rock-'n'-roll in Australia.

158
00:10:16,496 --> 00:10:17,622
With its own environment,

159
00:10:17,789 --> 00:10:18,873
its own TV stars,

160
00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:20,708
its own pop stars, rock stars,

161
00:10:20,875 --> 00:10:22,669
totally unknown to the rest of the world.

162
00:11:02,417 --> 00:11:04,335
We were on an adventure together,

163
00:11:04,502 --> 00:11:05,628
loving everything we were doing.

164
00:11:05,837 --> 00:11:07,547
We were just hoping we could get more recognition,

165
00:11:07,755 --> 00:11:09,883
but I don't think
it was till the Beatles came along...

166
00:11:10,049 --> 00:11:11,926
that we realized...

167
00:11:12,093 --> 00:11:14,345
how much we wanted to have the approval they had.

168
00:11:28,151 --> 00:11:29,444
When the Beatles came to Sydney,

169
00:11:29,611 --> 00:11:30,737
the magic was unbelievable.

170
00:11:30,904 --> 00:11:34,616
The whole city was,
like, in this mood of Beatlemania.

171
00:11:34,782 --> 00:11:36,659
I'd never seen anything like this before.

172
00:11:37,118 --> 00:11:38,745
I remember going down Pitt Street

173
00:11:38,912 --> 00:11:40,914
and getting a Beatle Fan Club book,

174
00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,790
and looking through what gear they'd got,

175
00:11:42,957 --> 00:11:44,876
what boots they were wearing,
what outfits,

176
00:11:45,043 --> 00:11:47,587
what clothes, the amps, the guitars,

177
00:11:47,921 --> 00:11:49,589
the recording session pictures, all this stuff.

178
00:11:49,756 --> 00:11:51,925
I was mesmerized by them

179
00:11:52,300 --> 00:11:55,011
because they were doing something
that we loved to do...

180
00:11:55,929 --> 00:11:57,180
and they were successful at it.

181
00:12:04,896 --> 00:12:06,773
So we began to believe in ourselves.

182
00:12:06,940 --> 00:12:07,774
We began to believe,

183
00:12:07,941 --> 00:12:10,235
"OK, if they can do it,

184
00:12:10,777 --> 00:12:13,112
then we should be able to...
have a go at doing it."

185
00:12:13,279 --> 00:12:15,448
It was not born out of arrogance,

186
00:12:15,615 --> 00:12:17,659
but it was just a blind belief that,

187
00:12:17,825 --> 00:12:19,619
"Hey, you know..."

188
00:12:19,786 --> 00:12:21,246
"Why can't we have a shot at that?"

189
00:12:48,314 --> 00:12:51,526
So, we felt a little bit left out
of the Mersey boom.

190
00:12:52,151 --> 00:12:54,070
We wanted to be a part of that.

191
00:12:54,237 --> 00:12:57,198
There was so much energy
and so much excitement about it.

192
00:12:57,740 --> 00:12:58,533
That was our world.

193
00:12:58,700 --> 00:12:59,492
We wanted to be apart that...

194
00:12:59,659 --> 00:13:01,786
We're from Manchester. As far as we knew,

195
00:13:01,995 --> 00:13:03,496
we knew we were Isle of Man born,

196
00:13:03,663 --> 00:13:05,540
but brought up as kids in Manchester,

197
00:13:05,790 --> 00:13:08,209
and we were Northern, just like the Beatles.

198
00:13:08,668 --> 00:13:09,669
"What are we doing here?"

199
00:13:10,044 --> 00:13:11,587
Righto, chaps, let's have a check. Flaps?

200
00:13:11,754 --> 00:13:12,422
Check.

201
00:13:12,588 --> 00:13:13,673
- Rudder.
- Right.

202
00:13:34,569 --> 00:13:35,111
You have to remember,

203
00:13:35,278 --> 00:13:40,491
this was an era where the U K
was dictating what happened in the world...

204
00:13:40,658 --> 00:13:41,701
What happened in the world.

205
00:13:41,868 --> 00:13:43,077
Culturally, musically.

206
00:13:43,244 --> 00:13:45,038
And we had to be where the action was.

207
00:13:45,204 --> 00:13:46,164
London was the hub.

208
00:13:46,331 --> 00:13:47,540
As much as we loved Australia,

209
00:13:47,707 --> 00:13:49,208
we'd had 13 records in a row...

210
00:13:49,375 --> 00:13:51,753
not doing that well at all, record-wise.

211
00:13:51,919 --> 00:13:53,338
So we released our last record,

212
00:13:53,504 --> 00:13:55,089
Spicks And Specks, in Australia,

213
00:13:55,256 --> 00:13:57,050
and we decided to go back to England.

214
00:13:57,216 --> 00:13:59,260
We didn't want to miss out on the Mersey boom.

215
00:13:59,427 --> 00:14:01,721
We didn't know it was coming to an end.

216
00:14:01,888 --> 00:14:02,805
We were going to make a shock.

217
00:14:02,972 --> 00:14:07,226
- I was about 18.
- Maurice and I were 16.

218
00:14:07,810 --> 00:14:09,604
We told our mother and father that.

219
00:14:09,937 --> 00:14:11,898
We remember that night as being fairly turbulent.

220
00:14:12,065 --> 00:14:15,443
They weren't completely in agreement
or in disagreement.

221
00:14:15,902 --> 00:14:18,071
So it was very difficult for Mum and Dad to think,

222
00:14:18,446 --> 00:14:19,197
"Hang on, we're going to have to..."

223
00:14:19,364 --> 00:14:21,657
"Give up making a living"

224
00:14:21,824 --> 00:14:23,076
"in order to take this chance..."

225
00:14:23,242 --> 00:14:24,702
"To get back on a ship..."

226
00:14:24,911 --> 00:14:26,913
"And sail five more weeks"

227
00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,248
"back across the world to England"

228
00:14:29,415 --> 00:14:31,876
"on the chance that our three sons think"

229
00:14:32,043 --> 00:14:34,629
"they can be stars or be famous."

230
00:14:34,754 --> 00:14:35,838
But we told them,

231
00:14:36,005 --> 00:14:38,216
"This is what we're going to do, Mum and Dad."

232
00:14:38,383 --> 00:14:39,509
"This is what we're going to do."

233
00:14:39,675 --> 00:14:42,220
"And you've got to go with us."
"You've got to do this with us."

234
00:14:42,428 --> 00:14:43,638
We left, but a week out we found out

235
00:14:43,805 --> 00:14:44,889
that Spicks And Specks...

236
00:14:45,056 --> 00:14:47,100
had gone to number one in Australia.

237
00:14:47,266 --> 00:14:48,559
It just blew us away,

238
00:14:48,768 --> 00:14:50,561
and we're a week out now.

239
00:14:51,270 --> 00:14:52,313
We're thinking, "Great."

240
00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:53,147
The only people who knew it...

241
00:14:53,314 --> 00:14:54,315
were the rest of the Australians on board,

242
00:14:54,482 --> 00:14:55,983
going, "Great, nice one,"

243
00:14:56,150 --> 00:14:57,360
"you got a number one."

244
00:14:57,527 --> 00:14:59,112
"Yeah, great for us now."

245
00:14:59,695 --> 00:15:01,364
So we ended up going back.

246
00:15:01,531 --> 00:15:02,615
So we came back to England,

247
00:15:02,782 --> 00:15:04,075
and kissed the docks of Southampton...

248
00:15:04,242 --> 00:15:04,951
when we got off.

249
00:15:05,118 --> 00:15:07,286
There was a pop group standing on the docks

250
00:15:07,453 --> 00:15:09,872
dressed like the Beatles were dressed in Help!

251
00:15:10,248 --> 00:15:11,499
And they said to us,

252
00:15:12,250 --> 00:15:14,085
"Don't go any further, go back to Australia."

253
00:15:14,460 --> 00:15:16,462
"Go back. Groups are dead."

254
00:15:16,629 --> 00:15:17,964
"Clapton lives."

255
00:15:19,257 --> 00:15:21,884
- "Groups are out..."
- "Groups are out."

256
00:15:22,051 --> 00:15:26,556
And that became the main... the mantra...

257
00:15:26,722 --> 00:15:28,182
that we heard no matter where we went,

258
00:15:28,349 --> 00:15:29,100
"Groups are out."

259
00:15:29,267 --> 00:15:31,352
"You haven't got a chance."

260
00:15:37,525 --> 00:15:40,486
We ended up in Hendon, in February of 1967,

261
00:15:40,653 --> 00:15:41,487
sleeping on floorboards

262
00:15:41,654 --> 00:15:44,323
with the dream of somebody discovering us.

263
00:15:44,490 --> 00:15:45,575
We'd been round to managers...

264
00:15:45,741 --> 00:15:47,326
and they were all saying, "Groups are out."

265
00:15:47,493 --> 00:15:48,536
"It's all solo artists now."

266
00:15:48,703 --> 00:15:50,496
The comment that was made to us was,

267
00:15:50,663 --> 00:15:51,789
"It's all Eric Clapton now."

268
00:15:51,956 --> 00:15:52,957
So, we got home

269
00:15:53,124 --> 00:15:55,293
and Mum had said, "A Mr. Stigweed called."

270
00:15:56,294 --> 00:15:57,837
We'd never heard of Mr. Stigweed.

271
00:15:58,045 --> 00:15:59,338
When Dad returned the call,

272
00:15:59,505 --> 00:16:00,339
it was N EMS,

273
00:16:00,506 --> 00:16:02,008
which was Brian Epstein's organization.

274
00:16:02,175 --> 00:16:03,426
We sent tapes and records...

275
00:16:03,593 --> 00:16:06,179
to the Beatles' manager Brian Epstein

276
00:16:06,345 --> 00:16:07,930
and his partner Robert Stigwood.

277
00:16:08,264 --> 00:16:09,015
We didn't know...

278
00:16:09,182 --> 00:16:10,349
whether or not they would hear them.

279
00:16:10,516 --> 00:16:12,351
Robert Stigwood spoke to us.

280
00:16:12,518 --> 00:16:13,186
He had heard the record...

281
00:16:13,352 --> 00:16:14,687
He had heard the tapes and he wanted...

282
00:16:14,854 --> 00:16:16,522
Brian had played the songs to him...

283
00:16:16,689 --> 00:16:18,107
that we'd sent from Australia.

284
00:16:18,274 --> 00:16:20,026
He said, "You write your own songs."

285
00:16:20,193 --> 00:16:21,319
"I like what I hear."

286
00:16:21,527 --> 00:16:22,320
"Can we do business?"

287
00:16:22,487 --> 00:16:25,031
So, we go to the Saville Theatre in London.

288
00:16:25,198 --> 00:16:27,742
Robert came in supported by two gentlemen.

289
00:16:28,910 --> 00:16:30,828
He looked a bit weary-for-wear,

290
00:16:31,204 --> 00:16:33,039
and he'd had a late night, obviously.

291
00:16:33,247 --> 00:16:36,292
And we were still performing our nightclub act...

292
00:16:36,459 --> 00:16:37,835
Even the Peter, Paul And Mary section.

293
00:16:38,002 --> 00:16:40,046
We did this whole act,

294
00:16:40,630 --> 00:16:42,548
and he said, "Right, be in my office at five."

295
00:16:42,715 --> 00:16:44,592
Got up and staggered out.

296
00:16:46,052 --> 00:16:47,220
So we thought, "OK..."

297
00:16:47,386 --> 00:16:48,763
"I wonder if he liked us?"

298
00:16:49,347 --> 00:16:50,765
So, that afternoon we went in

299
00:16:50,890 --> 00:16:53,893
and then he offered us a five-year contract...

300
00:16:54,769 --> 00:16:56,562
to be signed to N EMS.

301
00:16:57,563 --> 00:16:58,606
And I remember walking in there...

302
00:16:58,773 --> 00:17:00,566
and we saw Ringo for the first time.

303
00:17:01,734 --> 00:17:03,027
We weren't full-fledged rock stars.

304
00:17:03,277 --> 00:17:06,906
We were a pop group
and there was only three of us,

305
00:17:07,073 --> 00:17:08,282
so it wasn't really a band,

306
00:17:08,574 --> 00:17:10,409
and Robert Stigwood brought in Vince Melouney...

307
00:17:10,576 --> 00:17:12,703
and Colin Petersen to help us...

308
00:17:12,870 --> 00:17:13,788
become a band.

309
00:17:13,913 --> 00:17:15,039
Two months after that,

310
00:17:15,414 --> 00:17:16,332
we were in the American Top 20

311
00:17:16,499 --> 00:17:18,251
and the British Top 20 with our first single,

312
00:17:18,417 --> 00:17:19,794
New York Mining Disaster.

313
00:17:20,211 --> 00:17:24,590
Robert Stigwood was actually the champion in...

314
00:17:24,799 --> 00:17:27,093
and the jewel in our crown...

315
00:17:27,260 --> 00:17:28,344
as far as our career goes,

316
00:17:28,511 --> 00:17:31,931
because if we hadn't met Robert
at that particular time,

317
00:17:32,431 --> 00:17:33,933
I don't know which way we'd have gone.

318
00:18:14,348 --> 00:18:15,766
I remember doing the demo first of...

319
00:18:15,933 --> 00:18:17,143
New York Mining Disaster.

320
00:18:17,310 --> 00:18:18,477
Robert thought it'd be a good idea...

321
00:18:18,644 --> 00:18:20,021
before we actually go in and make the album,

322
00:18:20,187 --> 00:18:21,188
"If you've got any more songs to write,

323
00:18:21,355 --> 00:18:22,607
go in and use the studio."

324
00:18:22,773 --> 00:18:25,359
To see what we'd written since what he had heard.

325
00:18:25,526 --> 00:18:26,235
And we came up...

326
00:18:26,402 --> 00:18:27,862
with about eight to ten songs,

327
00:18:28,029 --> 00:18:29,864
and there was still that missing song...

328
00:18:30,031 --> 00:18:31,699
that he thought he could turn into a hit.

329
00:18:31,866 --> 00:18:32,700
All of a sudden there was a blackout.

330
00:18:32,867 --> 00:18:34,160
We had no power.

331
00:18:34,452 --> 00:18:35,494
So we went outside,

332
00:18:35,661 --> 00:18:37,496
and while we were
waiting for the power to come back on,

333
00:18:37,663 --> 00:18:40,124
in the area where the elevator goes down,

334
00:18:40,291 --> 00:18:41,876
there were steps on either side,

335
00:18:42,001 --> 00:18:42,960
we just sat on the steps

336
00:18:43,127 --> 00:18:44,503
and Barry was playing his guitar,

337
00:18:44,670 --> 00:18:45,921
and this was so echoey,

338
00:18:46,088 --> 00:18:47,340
a wonderful echo in this place,

339
00:18:47,506 --> 00:18:48,716
and it was like being in a mine.

340
00:19:04,523 --> 00:19:06,317
And the premise was...

341
00:19:06,484 --> 00:19:08,027
the Aberfan mining disaster.

342
00:19:08,194 --> 00:19:09,737
It had broken everyone's heart.

343
00:19:09,904 --> 00:19:12,615
It was only six months
before we wrote the song.

344
00:19:13,074 --> 00:19:15,993
Years later, we found out
there was a New York mining disaster,

345
00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,454
in 1939, I think, in the state of New York.

346
00:19:28,381 --> 00:19:29,548
But that was just the title.

347
00:19:29,715 --> 00:19:31,258
A lot of people referred to it as Mr. Jones.

348
00:19:31,425 --> 00:19:33,844
"Have you seen my wife, Mr. Jones?"

349
00:19:38,349 --> 00:19:39,725
But that was the birth of that,

350
00:19:39,934 --> 00:19:41,394
the total echo effect,

351
00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:42,645
the hauntingness of it.

352
00:19:42,812 --> 00:19:45,231
But it also started us writing about drama

353
00:19:45,398 --> 00:19:46,607
and pulled us away from the Beatles...

354
00:19:46,774 --> 00:19:48,943
Me To You syndrome.

355
00:19:49,110 --> 00:19:52,113
And, like them, we started writing in abstraction,

356
00:19:52,405 --> 00:19:55,366
we started writing
about situations and characters.

357
00:20:25,020 --> 00:20:26,856
We were working at I BC Studios,

358
00:20:27,022 --> 00:20:29,483
which was the place
where the Beatles used to record,

359
00:20:29,650 --> 00:20:31,569
- I believe, up to Abbey Road.
- Yeah.

360
00:20:32,445 --> 00:20:34,029
And, on its own stage,

361
00:20:34,196 --> 00:20:35,156
there was the Mellotron.

362
00:20:35,906 --> 00:20:37,616
And for the first time in our lives,

363
00:20:37,783 --> 00:20:39,660
we'd ever seen a Mellotron.

364
00:20:40,161 --> 00:20:41,328
Well, Maurice, of course,

365
00:20:42,163 --> 00:20:44,165
was immediately on the Mellotron

366
00:20:44,331 --> 00:20:46,459
and the song Every Christian Lion

367
00:20:46,625 --> 00:20:48,753
Hearted Man came from that sound,

368
00:20:48,919 --> 00:20:50,546
and that was on the Bee Gees' first album.

369
00:20:51,505 --> 00:20:53,215
But we were in the same studio

370
00:20:53,382 --> 00:20:55,134
and we were in the same space.

371
00:22:02,159 --> 00:22:04,620
Robert allowed us to do what we wanted to do.

372
00:22:05,079 --> 00:22:06,372
He put us in the studio...

373
00:22:06,580 --> 00:22:08,082
with great engineers,

374
00:22:08,249 --> 00:22:09,667
knowing our voices,

375
00:22:09,834 --> 00:22:10,960
and knowing what we liked to do...

376
00:22:11,126 --> 00:22:12,294
and knowing our level,

377
00:22:12,586 --> 00:22:14,421
where we'd reached experimentally,

378
00:22:14,964 --> 00:22:16,465
where we were gonna move from there.

379
00:22:16,632 --> 00:22:17,633
And we would do that,

380
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,426
and Robert allowed us to do that.

381
00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:45,452
And at the end of a week,

382
00:22:45,619 --> 00:22:47,079
he would come into the studio

383
00:22:47,413 --> 00:22:48,914
and listen to what we'd done.

384
00:22:49,248 --> 00:22:51,000
He wouldn't say, "Do this" or "Do that."

385
00:22:51,166 --> 00:22:52,751
He would just listen to what we'd done.

386
00:22:57,548 --> 00:22:58,841
And his opinion would be,

387
00:22:59,008 --> 00:23:01,385
"Yes, OK, but maybe this needs that..."

388
00:23:01,552 --> 00:23:02,511
"Or this needs that."

389
00:23:02,678 --> 00:23:05,139
Or the opposing opinion would be, "Stupendous."

390
00:23:05,264 --> 00:23:06,432
But he was always right.

391
00:23:38,589 --> 00:23:40,424
We remember a time at 2am,

392
00:23:40,591 --> 00:23:41,800
Robert had come in...

393
00:23:42,051 --> 00:23:44,053
and To Love Somebody was playing,

394
00:23:44,219 --> 00:23:46,180
and he would call up New York

395
00:23:46,305 --> 00:23:48,140
and play it in the speaker to...

396
00:23:48,307 --> 00:23:51,352
Ahmet Ertegun, the head of Atlantic Records.

397
00:23:51,518 --> 00:23:53,270
Down the phone. "Listen to this."

398
00:23:53,437 --> 00:23:56,607
"This is their next single."

399
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,669
And that's how it was done.

400
00:24:16,835 --> 00:24:19,505
It was very organic, it was very gut instincts.

401
00:24:19,672 --> 00:24:21,674
It's so different to the way things are done now.

402
00:24:22,675 --> 00:24:25,010
What was really fantastic about that first year

403
00:24:25,219 --> 00:24:27,596
is that New York Mining Disaster...

404
00:24:27,763 --> 00:24:28,973
and then To Love Somebody

405
00:24:29,264 --> 00:24:30,933
were charting in the American Top 20,

406
00:24:31,100 --> 00:24:32,226
which, you know...

407
00:24:32,351 --> 00:24:35,020
which was very unusual even by today's standards

408
00:24:35,229 --> 00:24:37,356
for first-time records and British artists.

409
00:24:37,523 --> 00:24:38,399
That was due to Robert Stigwood...

410
00:24:38,565 --> 00:24:39,441
and Ahmet Ertegun...

411
00:24:39,608 --> 00:24:41,276
working together.

412
00:24:41,485 --> 00:24:42,528
We had the N EMS team.

413
00:24:42,695 --> 00:24:44,655
We had the Beatles' team behind us.

414
00:24:44,822 --> 00:24:46,699
That's what kicked it all off for us.

415
00:24:46,865 --> 00:24:49,076
To crack America was the ultimate dream.

416
00:24:49,493 --> 00:24:50,411
You've got to remember,

417
00:24:50,577 --> 00:24:52,454
when you're from that generation of kids

418
00:24:52,621 --> 00:24:55,541
growing up in Liverpool
or Manchester, or wherever,

419
00:24:55,708 --> 00:24:57,376
America's pavements are gold.

420
00:24:57,543 --> 00:24:59,878
Everything is two cars per family,

421
00:25:00,045 --> 00:25:01,255
huge houses.

422
00:25:01,380 --> 00:25:04,341
I mean, television like, five, ten channels,

423
00:25:04,508 --> 00:25:07,094
you know? We had two.

424
00:25:24,737 --> 00:25:25,279
To Love Somebody...

425
00:25:25,404 --> 00:25:26,572
started with Otis Redding.

426
00:25:26,739 --> 00:25:27,865
Barry and Robin wrote that...

427
00:25:28,032 --> 00:25:29,908
with Otis in mind

428
00:25:30,242 --> 00:25:32,578
in hope that we could get it to him to record.

429
00:25:33,037 --> 00:25:34,580
We were going to do it anyway,

430
00:25:34,747 --> 00:25:35,622
but we felt like,

431
00:25:35,789 --> 00:25:37,583
"Wouldn't it be great
if Otis Redding could sing this?"

432
00:25:50,054 --> 00:25:52,056
We were influenced a lot in our writing
in those days,

433
00:25:52,222 --> 00:25:53,390
even today sometimes,

434
00:25:53,682 --> 00:25:55,476
by the artists that were around us,

435
00:25:55,768 --> 00:25:57,352
of, "Who could do this song?"

436
00:25:57,770 --> 00:25:59,229
We'd write the Beatles' new record,

437
00:25:59,772 --> 00:26:00,814
the Rolling Stones' new record,

438
00:26:00,981 --> 00:26:01,815
the Hollies' new record,

439
00:26:02,566 --> 00:26:03,442
whatever groups that were out there.

440
00:26:03,609 --> 00:26:05,277
"What would they release? What would they do?"

441
00:26:05,444 --> 00:26:06,820
And we'd sing it and it would be us.

442
00:26:06,987 --> 00:26:09,573
I think our career's built
out of jealousy and envy.

443
00:26:09,740 --> 00:26:11,742
"We gotta beat that." It's not a bad thing.

444
00:26:11,909 --> 00:26:14,620
It was a sense of desperate need
to be acknowledged.

445
00:26:14,787 --> 00:26:16,955
And when anyone rejected what we were doing,

446
00:26:17,122 --> 00:26:18,540
that would make us work harder.

447
00:26:18,707 --> 00:26:21,460
Because we felt that we could do something better.

448
00:26:22,044 --> 00:26:23,295
"Let's try and beat that one."

449
00:26:36,517 --> 00:26:38,852
Tonight, Massachusetts from the Bee Gees!

450
00:26:42,397 --> 00:26:44,441
I remember doing Top Of The Pops
for the first time.

451
00:26:44,650 --> 00:26:45,484
It was a great dream,

452
00:26:45,651 --> 00:26:46,652
because that's the show to do.

453
00:26:46,819 --> 00:26:47,236
You're made...

454
00:26:47,402 --> 00:26:48,153
if you do Top Of The Pops.

455
00:27:23,105 --> 00:27:26,275
There became a melodramatic element in our songs

456
00:27:26,441 --> 00:27:29,319
as opposed to an up, celebration type record.

457
00:27:29,486 --> 00:27:31,029
Massachusetts was like that.

458
00:27:31,196 --> 00:27:32,573
We began to love melodrama,

459
00:27:32,739 --> 00:27:36,326
and we began to love what the Beatles
were doing with orchestras.

460
00:27:36,618 --> 00:27:38,871
We began to recognize that a full orchestra

461
00:27:39,037 --> 00:27:42,040
was just as important to rock-'n'-roll
as an electric guitar was.

462
00:28:01,435 --> 00:28:03,437
It was the first time we'd ever had
a number one record.

463
00:28:03,812 --> 00:28:04,271
I remember being told...

464
00:28:04,438 --> 00:28:05,731
Massachusetts was number one.

465
00:28:05,939 --> 00:28:07,316
We did such a bad show that night.

466
00:28:07,482 --> 00:28:11,111
We were in one of those places up north where...

467
00:28:11,278 --> 00:28:15,199
they had the... the turning stage that goes around,
the revolving stage.

468
00:28:15,741 --> 00:28:17,201
We're on the other side getting ready,

469
00:28:17,367 --> 00:28:19,119
plugging in and getting set up.

470
00:28:19,786 --> 00:28:20,662
Dick runs up and goes,

471
00:28:20,829 --> 00:28:22,706
"Massachusetts has just gone to number one."

472
00:28:23,248 --> 00:28:26,126
"What?" And we all looked at each other.

473
00:28:26,293 --> 00:28:27,794
"Oh, my God, it's number one."

474
00:28:27,961 --> 00:28:30,005
And just as that happened,
the stage started going round,

475
00:28:30,214 --> 00:28:31,673
and we weren't all plugged in or set up.

476
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,218
We just started the show and we sang
what the hell we wanted to.

477
00:28:34,384 --> 00:28:35,260
We couldn't believe it.

478
00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:36,386
We were so over the moon,

479
00:28:36,553 --> 00:28:37,971
we thought we could get away with murder.

480
00:28:38,138 --> 00:28:39,598
To have a number one in England,

481
00:28:39,932 --> 00:28:40,724
you have no idea...

482
00:28:40,891 --> 00:28:42,476
how much we'd dreamed of this in Australia,

483
00:28:42,851 --> 00:28:44,686
to have a number one in the U K charts.

484
00:28:45,062 --> 00:28:47,064
We felt like we'd arrived.

485
00:28:55,489 --> 00:28:59,159
The Bee Gees, the most exciting
sound in the world.

486
00:29:28,230 --> 00:29:29,523
We were very, very ambitious...

487
00:29:29,690 --> 00:29:31,775
and we were very anxious to make our mark.

488
00:29:31,942 --> 00:29:35,153
If it was a choice between partying
and being in the studio,

489
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,905
it was definitely gonna be the studio.

490
00:29:37,072 --> 00:29:39,324
It wasn't about having a good time,

491
00:29:39,491 --> 00:29:40,200
a good time to us...

492
00:29:40,367 --> 00:29:41,660
was being in the studio.

493
00:29:41,868 --> 00:29:44,162
- A good time to us was a good woman.
- Yes.

494
00:29:44,329 --> 00:29:46,581
And in those days the idea of women...

495
00:29:46,748 --> 00:29:48,166
crept into our lives.

496
00:29:48,333 --> 00:29:50,168
- And... up to that point...
- Still is.

497
00:29:50,335 --> 00:29:51,336
Yeah!

498
00:29:51,670 --> 00:29:54,464
And up to that point, women had not.

499
00:29:55,007 --> 00:29:57,467
It began in Australia just before we left,

500
00:29:59,011 --> 00:30:01,013
that women became a sort of...

501
00:30:02,556 --> 00:30:04,182
Music, women.

502
00:30:04,516 --> 00:30:07,352
So women became a confliction...

503
00:30:07,519 --> 00:30:08,687
between the two subjects.

504
00:30:08,937 --> 00:30:09,896
It was going out with a girl...

505
00:30:10,063 --> 00:30:11,064
or writing a song

506
00:30:11,231 --> 00:30:13,400
or it was being a group or going out with a girl.

507
00:30:13,692 --> 00:30:15,110
So we began to fall in love.

508
00:30:15,527 --> 00:30:16,611
We began to have girlfriends.

509
00:30:16,778 --> 00:30:18,322
Actually, you need that to be an artist,

510
00:30:18,488 --> 00:30:21,283
to get that extra sentiment.

511
00:30:21,742 --> 00:30:24,077
So, suddenly, we were no longer kids.

512
00:31:15,212 --> 00:31:16,588
There was a lot of hits in that short time.

513
00:31:16,755 --> 00:31:17,756
All the things were happening.

514
00:31:17,923 --> 00:31:19,424
There was a lot of money all of a sudden,

515
00:31:19,591 --> 00:31:21,885
and cars, and girlfriends,

516
00:31:22,052 --> 00:31:23,345
and love interests were happening,

517
00:31:23,512 --> 00:31:24,638
and jealousies were happening,

518
00:31:24,763 --> 00:31:28,266
so, the drink came more. The money became more.

519
00:31:28,433 --> 00:31:30,894
And when you're 18, 19 years of age,

520
00:31:31,269 --> 00:31:34,272
and after all the work we had done,
through clubs and everything,

521
00:31:34,439 --> 00:31:36,817
I felt grown up,
I felt like I'd been through the mill.

522
00:31:48,829 --> 00:31:51,415
In 1967 we became...

523
00:31:51,581 --> 00:31:53,041
members of a club called the Speakeasy

524
00:31:53,208 --> 00:31:54,668
which was an underground club

525
00:31:55,127 --> 00:31:57,087
which was only for the Beatles and the Stones...

526
00:31:57,254 --> 00:31:58,797
and the Who

527
00:31:58,964 --> 00:32:02,801
and Otis Redding and Sam & Dave...

528
00:32:03,218 --> 00:32:04,594
Yeah, Ahmet Ertegun...

529
00:32:04,761 --> 00:32:08,098
and Robert and Brian Epstein.

530
00:32:08,306 --> 00:32:10,517
It was virtually a closed club.

531
00:32:11,059 --> 00:32:14,980
You went downstairs and there was a coffin,

532
00:32:16,106 --> 00:32:17,774
and if you were allowed in,

533
00:32:18,150 --> 00:32:19,484
if you were somebody they knew...

534
00:32:19,693 --> 00:32:21,736
and you were supposed to go in,

535
00:32:22,154 --> 00:32:26,158
the wall would turn round
and the coffin would turn round.

536
00:32:26,783 --> 00:32:27,993
And in you would go, and there'd be...

537
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,703
George Best playing the machines

538
00:32:29,828 --> 00:32:33,415
and the Stones would be lying
around all over the place.

539
00:32:34,458 --> 00:32:35,667
- And...
- Great days.

540
00:32:35,834 --> 00:32:40,964
It was one of those days
that I met John Lennon from the back.

541
00:32:41,256 --> 00:32:43,258
I never met John Lennon from the front.

542
00:32:49,973 --> 00:32:52,767
It was Pete Townshend
who introduced me to John Lennon

543
00:32:52,934 --> 00:32:55,312
and what I remember is,

544
00:32:55,479 --> 00:32:57,647
"Barry, I'd like you to meet John Lennon."

545
00:32:57,939 --> 00:32:59,816
"John Lennon, pleased to meet you."

546
00:33:01,568 --> 00:33:03,653
And carried on talking to somebody else.

547
00:33:04,112 --> 00:33:07,115
So I thought to myself,
"Well, I've met John Lennon."

548
00:33:07,824 --> 00:33:08,366
I had John Lennon's...

549
00:33:08,533 --> 00:33:09,868
black-windowed Mini Cooper S.

550
00:33:10,035 --> 00:33:11,203
I bought that car off him.

551
00:33:11,369 --> 00:33:12,370
And so I was involved,

552
00:33:12,537 --> 00:33:14,748
I became part of the inner circle
of all those guys,

553
00:33:14,873 --> 00:33:16,541
and I was going to parties...

554
00:33:16,750 --> 00:33:18,376
and the Magical Mystery Tour and...

555
00:33:18,543 --> 00:33:20,045
it was like a wild world for me.

556
00:33:20,212 --> 00:33:23,632
When you think that five months
before all this was going on,

557
00:33:24,174 --> 00:33:27,219
I was in Pitt Street buying
the Beatle Fan Club book,

558
00:33:27,511 --> 00:33:28,428
the same time,

559
00:33:28,595 --> 00:33:32,766
and now here I am partying with these guys,
my heroes.

560
00:33:33,225 --> 00:33:35,060
Let's have a wonderfully warm reception

561
00:33:35,310 --> 00:33:36,394
for the attractive Bee Gees...

562
00:33:36,561 --> 00:33:38,772
and soloist Barry Gibb.

563
00:34:13,557 --> 00:34:14,432
We did Ed Sullivan.

564
00:34:14,599 --> 00:34:15,976
Dick Cavett and Mike Douglas.

565
00:34:16,476 --> 00:34:19,271
- Merv Griffin.
- Johnny Carson.

566
00:34:19,437 --> 00:34:20,897
We did eleven Johnny Carson shows...

567
00:34:21,064 --> 00:34:21,940
over the years.

568
00:34:23,650 --> 00:34:26,778
There wasn't any decisive point
where we moved to America,

569
00:34:26,945 --> 00:34:29,406
because it was an international scene...

570
00:34:29,573 --> 00:34:31,199
from 1967 onwards.

571
00:34:31,366 --> 00:34:33,285
Wherever you were based, you had to go to America.

572
00:34:33,451 --> 00:34:35,537
- It was England or America.
- Yeah.

573
00:34:35,745 --> 00:34:37,080
It had to be one of the two.

574
00:34:37,247 --> 00:34:38,540
No other country in the world...

575
00:34:38,832 --> 00:34:40,542
could give you international fame.

576
00:35:19,873 --> 00:35:23,376
It's hard to speak about Odessa
in any coherent way,

577
00:35:23,543 --> 00:35:24,878
because it wasn't actually a planned album,

578
00:35:25,045 --> 00:35:26,880
it was just a collection of songs.

579
00:35:27,047 --> 00:35:29,674
We thought we were going to do a concept album...

580
00:35:29,841 --> 00:35:30,759
Yeah. Because of Tommy

581
00:35:30,925 --> 00:35:35,138
and because of Robert's connection
to these types of things,

582
00:35:35,472 --> 00:35:36,973
he wanted us to do a rock opera.

583
00:35:37,140 --> 00:35:38,892
And we wanted to put it on the stage.

584
00:35:39,184 --> 00:35:41,811
And instead of writing a rock opera,

585
00:35:42,479 --> 00:35:44,189
we just came up with a mish-mash.

586
00:35:44,356 --> 00:35:47,025
We just came up with a bunch of songs

587
00:35:47,192 --> 00:35:49,819
that we thought we were going somewhere with,

588
00:35:49,986 --> 00:35:51,905
but I think we were extremely weary.

589
00:35:52,155 --> 00:35:54,824
I think even at such a young age,

590
00:35:55,116 --> 00:35:57,661
we'd been through
quite a number of albums very quickly.

591
00:35:57,827 --> 00:35:59,371
We could no longer deal with each other,

592
00:35:59,746 --> 00:36:01,081
could no longer deal with each other.

593
00:36:01,539 --> 00:36:04,042
And... the three of us drifted apart.

594
00:36:04,209 --> 00:36:05,919
In fact, I'd say the four of us drifted apart,

595
00:36:06,044 --> 00:36:07,045
including Robert.

596
00:36:07,337 --> 00:36:09,297
Robert went off to make his movies...

597
00:36:09,464 --> 00:36:10,173
There were distractions.

598
00:36:10,340 --> 00:36:13,843
All the distractions that success brings
for someone like him.

599
00:36:14,135 --> 00:36:19,182
And so, we... we let that lie.

600
00:36:19,349 --> 00:36:20,892
That album never really got finished,

601
00:36:21,059 --> 00:36:22,227
never really got finished.

602
00:36:22,435 --> 00:36:23,687
Everyone was doing real well,

603
00:36:23,853 --> 00:36:25,897
and there was the jealousy thing going on.

604
00:36:26,731 --> 00:36:29,609
What happened is First Of May, the record,
was coming out,

605
00:36:29,776 --> 00:36:32,529
and everybody went for First Of May as the A-side,

606
00:36:32,696 --> 00:36:34,114
and Barry was singing the lead on that.

607
00:36:34,614 --> 00:36:35,782
On the other side was Lamplight,

608
00:36:35,949 --> 00:36:37,200
with Robin singing lead,

609
00:36:37,367 --> 00:36:39,744
and everybody
thought Lamplight should be the single.

610
00:36:40,036 --> 00:36:41,246
Robert chose First Of May,

611
00:36:41,413 --> 00:36:43,289
and thinking he was biased towards Barry,

612
00:36:43,957 --> 00:36:45,875
Robin said, "I've had it."

613
00:36:46,084 --> 00:36:47,585
He thought it was done on purpose.

614
00:36:47,752 --> 00:36:49,546
And following that,

615
00:36:49,713 --> 00:36:54,926
I think we went through about two or three years
of being unable to communicate,

616
00:36:55,385 --> 00:36:59,139
being unable to be brothers
or friends or... unable.

617
00:37:00,140 --> 00:37:01,474
We've heard rumors that the group is splitting up.

618
00:37:01,641 --> 00:37:02,934
Would you like to verify those rumors?

619
00:37:03,101 --> 00:37:06,020
If I were to say that was true,
then I would be the premier of Russia.

620
00:37:06,229 --> 00:37:07,564
Then Robin decided to leave,

621
00:37:07,731 --> 00:37:09,524
while we were doing the Cucumber Castle film.

622
00:37:33,715 --> 00:37:34,924
Then Barry left after that...

623
00:37:35,091 --> 00:37:36,384
and I was all of a sudden The Bee Gee.

624
00:37:37,010 --> 00:37:39,053
But it was all part and parcel,

625
00:37:39,220 --> 00:37:41,723
that part of it,
we had to go through all that crap

626
00:37:41,973 --> 00:37:42,557
'cause, you must remember,

627
00:37:42,724 --> 00:37:44,058
we'd been together for so long

628
00:37:44,976 --> 00:37:47,020
by the time we were 19, 20, 21,

629
00:37:47,771 --> 00:37:49,647
it's like, "We need a break."

630
00:37:50,482 --> 00:37:52,734
We'd been together
since Robin and I were five, singing.

631
00:37:52,901 --> 00:37:56,738
I don't think there was actually a design
in the breakup in itself.

632
00:37:56,905 --> 00:37:58,698
We just wandered off and...

633
00:37:58,865 --> 00:38:00,158
It was a crazy period.

634
00:38:00,325 --> 00:38:02,327
We didn't know what we were each doing...

635
00:38:02,494 --> 00:38:03,578
unless we read the trades.

636
00:38:03,745 --> 00:38:05,163
We sort of tried to get together,

637
00:38:05,330 --> 00:38:06,498
but every time we tried,

638
00:38:06,664 --> 00:38:08,208
we knew it was the wrong time.

639
00:38:08,541 --> 00:38:11,085
It was inevitable that this would happen,

640
00:38:11,252 --> 00:38:13,171
it was something that was growing anyway.

641
00:38:13,505 --> 00:38:15,298
But being young, you don't know how to handle it.

642
00:38:15,465 --> 00:38:16,257
We were excited.

643
00:38:16,424 --> 00:38:18,176
We were very high on ourselves,

644
00:38:18,510 --> 00:38:19,511
and it was a dream come true.

645
00:38:19,677 --> 00:38:22,514
Yeah. I mean, I had seven Aston Martins

646
00:38:22,847 --> 00:38:23,807
and six Rolls-Royces...

647
00:38:23,973 --> 00:38:25,058
before I was 21.

648
00:38:26,059 --> 00:38:28,019
I don't know where they are now,

649
00:38:28,186 --> 00:38:29,562
but that's how crazy it was.

650
00:38:29,729 --> 00:38:31,523
The "first-fame" syndrome, we call it,

651
00:38:31,689 --> 00:38:33,358
when you go through that, and if you survive it,

652
00:38:33,525 --> 00:38:34,442
it's great.

653
00:38:34,692 --> 00:38:36,110
We had the foresight...

654
00:38:36,277 --> 00:38:37,779
and strength to say, "This is stupid,"

655
00:38:37,946 --> 00:38:38,863
"let's get back together."

656
00:38:39,072 --> 00:38:41,157
The first time we got together
after the breakup was...

657
00:38:41,324 --> 00:38:42,700
Addison Road in Kensington.

658
00:38:42,867 --> 00:38:45,286
How Can You Mend A Broken Heart

659
00:38:45,453 --> 00:38:46,079
and Lonely Days.

660
00:38:46,246 --> 00:38:47,747
That, basically, is the story,

661
00:38:47,914 --> 00:38:49,374
because How Can You Mend A Broken Heart...

662
00:38:49,958 --> 00:38:51,668
really does reflect how we felt.

663
00:38:51,876 --> 00:38:52,377
Yeah.

664
00:40:01,487 --> 00:40:02,780
We had about 15 months apart.

665
00:40:03,281 --> 00:40:04,532
I ended up doing a musical,

666
00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:07,785
but it was a very strange situation.

667
00:40:07,952 --> 00:40:09,996
Barry had left and the group was over.

668
00:40:13,041 --> 00:40:14,876
But what happened is that Robin had called him...

669
00:40:15,084 --> 00:40:17,962
and said, "Let's get together and talk."

670
00:40:18,171 --> 00:40:19,088
We eventually did.

671
00:40:19,255 --> 00:40:21,799
I remember the time
that Robert Stigwood's company...

672
00:40:21,966 --> 00:40:22,800
was going public,

673
00:40:23,259 --> 00:40:24,469
and the three of us were in this room,

674
00:40:24,636 --> 00:40:26,471
I had my lawyer, Robin had his lawyer,

675
00:40:26,638 --> 00:40:27,597
Barry had his lawyer,

676
00:40:27,764 --> 00:40:28,806
and all we were talking about...

677
00:40:28,973 --> 00:40:30,016
is what we can do together,

678
00:40:30,183 --> 00:40:31,434
when the lawyers were thinking about,

679
00:40:31,601 --> 00:40:35,521
"I represent my client privately
and separately from the others."

680
00:40:35,813 --> 00:40:38,608
And the three of us were planning our next album.

681
00:40:39,567 --> 00:40:41,402
And no one knew about it, in the room.

682
00:41:07,345 --> 00:41:09,263
It was nervous working together again

683
00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:12,266
and getting used to each other again,
the writing process.

684
00:41:12,475 --> 00:41:13,434
Lonely Days was an instrumental...

685
00:41:13,601 --> 00:41:14,769
I was playing on the piano.

686
00:41:14,936 --> 00:41:15,687
Barry and Robin came round,

687
00:41:15,853 --> 00:41:16,771
and we started singing it,

688
00:41:16,938 --> 00:41:18,564
and before we knew it, the song was taking shape.

689
00:41:56,060 --> 00:41:57,437
So, those first times together,

690
00:41:57,603 --> 00:41:59,564
we knew it was inevitable.

691
00:41:59,772 --> 00:42:02,734
Look what we've done in these
few days we've been together.

692
00:42:23,087 --> 00:42:24,756
I felt like we'd never done it before.

693
00:42:24,964 --> 00:42:26,924
We were like new. It was, like, fresh.

694
00:42:27,091 --> 00:42:30,720
The energy that each one had on
expressing what they'd learnt by being apart,

695
00:42:30,887 --> 00:42:32,263
it all came out in that week.

696
00:42:32,513 --> 00:42:35,224
And it was brilliant.
It was a wonderful session, wonderful.

697
00:42:35,391 --> 00:42:37,602
Thank you all very much and good evening.

698
00:44:20,872 --> 00:44:22,081
How does a song get written?

699
00:44:22,248 --> 00:44:26,210
It's usually one person who will walk
into the studio or the room...

700
00:44:26,419 --> 00:44:28,212
and say, "I've got an idea for a song."

701
00:44:31,841 --> 00:44:33,050
And any one of us...

702
00:44:33,217 --> 00:44:34,594
would play that idea,

703
00:44:35,094 --> 00:44:36,762
and if everyone looked at each other

704
00:44:36,929 --> 00:44:38,222
and went,

705
00:44:38,431 --> 00:44:39,557
"OK,"

706
00:44:39,724 --> 00:44:41,309
"this can go somewhere,
this could be something..."

707
00:44:41,475 --> 00:44:43,728
Many times, Barry will have an idea for a song,

708
00:44:44,061 --> 00:44:45,730
and I'll have an idea for song,

709
00:44:45,897 --> 00:44:47,231
and we'll put them together...

710
00:44:47,565 --> 00:44:48,232
and marry them.

711
00:44:48,399 --> 00:44:50,610
- And marry the two songs.
- And it'll become one song.

712
00:44:51,152 --> 00:44:53,738
So, Run To Me was a form of two songs.

713
00:45:13,925 --> 00:45:15,259
So, we would play that kind of game,

714
00:45:15,426 --> 00:45:16,761
that two songs can become one,

715
00:45:16,928 --> 00:45:19,555
and that collaboration is
what creates a great song.

716
00:45:19,764 --> 00:45:23,059
One person writing a song, on their own,

717
00:45:23,226 --> 00:45:24,769
is a tremendously lonely game.

718
00:45:30,608 --> 00:45:32,652
We all become one mind.

719
00:45:32,902 --> 00:45:34,278
That's what we automatically all do.

720
00:45:34,487 --> 00:45:35,529
And we've been doing that for years.

721
00:45:36,364 --> 00:45:37,490
So I don't know how we do it,

722
00:45:37,657 --> 00:45:38,616
but it just happens that way.

723
00:45:38,783 --> 00:45:40,243
I call it the greatest form of meditation...

724
00:45:40,409 --> 00:45:41,494
you could ever have,

725
00:45:41,619 --> 00:45:42,787
when the three of us are in the room,

726
00:45:42,954 --> 00:45:44,997
when we're doing the music, and I'm playing,

727
00:45:45,164 --> 00:45:47,375
and we usually write the lyrics
after we write the melody

728
00:45:47,541 --> 00:45:50,169
and we have the mics on
and we just sit there and create.

729
00:45:50,670 --> 00:45:53,381
You're not concentrating on anything else

730
00:45:54,090 --> 00:45:57,510
but what's happening right now,
and that's a trip on its own.

731
00:45:57,885 --> 00:45:59,637
It's wonderful when you hear it taking shape.

732
00:45:59,804 --> 00:46:00,596
And I may go somewhere,

733
00:46:00,763 --> 00:46:02,139
and Barry, "Yes, yes,

734
00:46:02,306 --> 00:46:03,516
go play there, go there."

735
00:46:03,641 --> 00:46:05,810
And I go, "Yes, go there."

736
00:46:05,977 --> 00:46:08,604
We'll wake each other's little instincts up...

737
00:46:08,771 --> 00:46:09,814
and the melodies come.

738
00:46:10,147 --> 00:46:12,525
Maurice was either guitar, piano...

739
00:46:12,942 --> 00:46:15,319
and some form of stimulating sound.

740
00:46:15,528 --> 00:46:17,863
I'm Mr. Fix-It. Still comes from...

741
00:46:18,030 --> 00:46:19,657
where I've always been in the middle

742
00:46:19,824 --> 00:46:21,534
of some discrepancy between Barry and Robin

743
00:46:21,659 --> 00:46:22,493
or if we're gonna make a decision,

744
00:46:22,660 --> 00:46:24,620
"What does Maurice think?"

745
00:46:24,787 --> 00:46:27,039
I become the deciding vote, if you like.

746
00:46:29,166 --> 00:46:31,836
After Run To Me, we went into a valley, totally.

747
00:46:32,044 --> 00:46:32,920
Our career was in a valley.

748
00:46:33,087 --> 00:46:35,339
No record company wanted us,
management didn't want us,

749
00:46:35,589 --> 00:46:36,424
nothing.

750
00:46:36,590 --> 00:46:39,010
At the end of every decade, there's a tendency

751
00:46:39,427 --> 00:46:42,221
that the business tries to reject artists
from the last decade.

752
00:46:42,430 --> 00:46:43,180
So, you know,

753
00:46:43,347 --> 00:46:44,890
you're either the artist of the '60s,

754
00:46:45,057 --> 00:46:46,183
or an artist of the '70s,

755
00:46:46,350 --> 00:46:47,685
or an artist of the '80s.

756
00:46:47,893 --> 00:46:49,562
And it still goes on now.

757
00:46:50,146 --> 00:46:52,857
And so, we were suddenly...

758
00:46:53,774 --> 00:46:56,736
out of favor by the beginning of the '70s.

759
00:46:56,986 --> 00:46:58,154
You think it's gonna last forever...

760
00:46:58,362 --> 00:46:59,071
and it doesn't.

761
00:46:59,238 --> 00:47:00,865
And that's when the s♪♪♪♪
hits the proverbial fan.

762
00:47:01,866 --> 00:47:03,326
Because all of a sudden,

763
00:47:03,492 --> 00:47:05,369
you turn
to maybe drinking a bit with your friends.

764
00:47:05,536 --> 00:47:06,454
"Oh, you'll do it again."

765
00:47:06,620 --> 00:47:07,288
Then you turn to drugs.

766
00:47:07,455 --> 00:47:08,664
Before you know it,

767
00:47:08,831 --> 00:47:10,624
you're on a collision course with death.

768
00:47:10,791 --> 00:47:11,542
That's it.

769
00:47:11,709 --> 00:47:12,918
And to us, we thought,

770
00:47:13,085 --> 00:47:14,462
"Well, maybe that's it."

771
00:47:14,628 --> 00:47:16,881
"Maybe that was our career."

772
00:47:17,715 --> 00:47:20,259
Oh, yeah. I mean your ego is deflated enormously.

773
00:47:20,551 --> 00:47:21,969
But that was meant to be too.

774
00:47:22,136 --> 00:47:23,596
I mean, it wasn't good stuff.

775
00:47:23,804 --> 00:47:24,472
It was OK.

776
00:47:24,638 --> 00:47:26,390
We were trying to be very experimental.

777
00:47:26,557 --> 00:47:27,475
Sly And The Family Stone

778
00:47:27,641 --> 00:47:28,893
were huge with hits and...

779
00:47:29,101 --> 00:47:30,686
It was a different kind of period,

780
00:47:30,853 --> 00:47:32,813
it was like early disco, or something,

781
00:47:33,064 --> 00:47:34,732
there was something going on
that was really strange.

782
00:47:35,191 --> 00:47:36,692
And we just were off the mark.

783
00:47:36,859 --> 00:47:39,028
We were so off the mark...

784
00:47:39,195 --> 00:47:40,988
we released an album, To Whom It May Concern,

785
00:47:41,155 --> 00:47:43,074
because we didn't know
who the hell was gonna buy it.

786
00:47:43,407 --> 00:47:45,326
I mean, that's how totally,

787
00:47:45,785 --> 00:47:47,703
"Where are we going?"

788
00:48:13,062 --> 00:48:15,648
We needed to have bigger records
than we were having.

789
00:48:15,981 --> 00:48:18,776
We weren't moving that well at all.

790
00:48:19,610 --> 00:48:21,737
Robert had become acquainted
with Arif Mardin,

791
00:48:21,946 --> 00:48:23,656
who had done some of the Aretha Franklin...

792
00:48:23,781 --> 00:48:24,657
early records,

793
00:48:24,824 --> 00:48:26,867
and suggested that we explore those roots,

794
00:48:27,034 --> 00:48:27,827
which is how we ended up...

795
00:48:27,993 --> 00:48:29,787
doing Mr. Natural with Arif.

796
00:48:34,959 --> 00:48:37,128
Arif was so instrumental
in producing black artists.

797
00:48:37,294 --> 00:48:38,838
He produced a lot of people,

798
00:48:39,004 --> 00:48:40,256
and we wanted that input.

799
00:49:27,219 --> 00:49:29,180
- We always loved black music.
- Yeah.

800
00:49:29,346 --> 00:49:30,723
Always, even in the '60s,

801
00:49:30,890 --> 00:49:33,851
it was just ways of...

802
00:49:34,518 --> 00:49:36,645
Sam Cooke and Otis Redding

803
00:49:36,812 --> 00:49:37,730
Wilson Picket.

804
00:49:37,897 --> 00:49:39,231
The influences had been there,

805
00:49:39,398 --> 00:49:40,566
we just explored them more.

806
00:49:40,733 --> 00:49:42,610
We felt it was a time we needed,

807
00:49:42,776 --> 00:49:44,737
and Arif was the ideal tool.

808
00:49:44,904 --> 00:49:46,322
He encouraged, more so.

809
00:49:46,614 --> 00:49:47,531
That's when, as I said,

810
00:49:47,740 --> 00:49:49,283
for To Whom It May Concern...

811
00:49:49,450 --> 00:49:51,035
before we had no direction.

812
00:49:51,202 --> 00:49:52,077
Arif went,

813
00:49:52,244 --> 00:49:53,162
"This is the way you go."

814
00:49:53,329 --> 00:49:55,414
Yes, we'd given up on the psychedelia.

815
00:49:55,581 --> 00:49:56,624
We'd given up that,

816
00:49:56,790 --> 00:49:59,376
"Everyone has to be
like the Beatles in order to succeed."

817
00:49:59,835 --> 00:50:02,546
We thought we were on the right track,
we thought we were doing the right things.

818
00:50:02,713 --> 00:50:05,049
We were moving into that R&B vein,

819
00:50:05,549 --> 00:50:07,551
but we weren't really succeeding.

820
00:50:07,718 --> 00:50:09,637
Mr. Natural was a total disaster,

821
00:50:10,221 --> 00:50:15,226
but it was like a rehearsal for Main Course,
working with Arif for the first time.

822
00:50:15,434 --> 00:50:17,520
Fortunately for us, Arif said,

823
00:50:17,686 --> 00:50:19,230
"Well, this was a good start,"

824
00:50:19,396 --> 00:50:20,481
"let's do another album."

825
00:50:21,065 --> 00:50:23,234
And we didn't expect that,

826
00:50:23,442 --> 00:50:25,110
and...

827
00:50:25,277 --> 00:50:27,696
That was the opening
of 461 Ocean Boulevard, isn't it?

828
00:50:27,863 --> 00:50:30,241
And that's when Eric Clapton said,

829
00:50:30,407 --> 00:50:31,283
"I've just done this album called"

830
00:50:31,450 --> 00:50:32,618
"461 Ocean Boulevard."

831
00:50:32,785 --> 00:50:35,579
"Why don't you go and rent the same house"

832
00:50:35,788 --> 00:50:37,540
"and record in America instead of England"

833
00:50:37,957 --> 00:50:39,959
"and see what that does for you spiritually?"

834
00:50:40,125 --> 00:50:41,502
He said, "It really worked for me."

835
00:50:41,669 --> 00:50:44,338
"I feel like a totally different artist"

836
00:50:44,505 --> 00:50:48,092
"having moved away from
that whole English syndrome."

837
00:50:56,308 --> 00:50:58,561
When we got to Miami, all of a sudden, sunshine.

838
00:50:58,727 --> 00:51:01,438
This is paradise...

839
00:51:01,605 --> 00:51:03,107
compared to where we just came from.

840
00:51:03,274 --> 00:51:04,733
And we got Arif Mardin...

841
00:51:04,900 --> 00:51:06,610
because we wanted Arif after Mr. Natural.

842
00:51:06,819 --> 00:51:07,820
When we worked with him on Main Course,

843
00:51:07,945 --> 00:51:08,946
he knew us,

844
00:51:09,238 --> 00:51:11,657
and he brought out the best in every one of us.

845
00:51:11,824 --> 00:51:12,491
He taught me bass...

846
00:51:12,658 --> 00:51:13,701
I didn't know I could play.

847
00:51:13,867 --> 00:51:15,160
That's how much I admire that man.

848
00:51:15,327 --> 00:51:18,122
He wouldn't play himself. Brilliant pianist.

849
00:51:18,372 --> 00:51:20,291
But he didn't believe
in playing on his own records.

850
00:51:20,457 --> 00:51:24,086
He would come up with these little things,
suggest them to the band...

851
00:51:24,253 --> 00:51:25,838
He was like a little boy, wasn't he?
His enthusiasm.

852
00:51:26,005 --> 00:51:28,132
Working with the band.

853
00:51:28,841 --> 00:51:30,759
Arif knew exactly where we needed to go.

854
00:51:31,468 --> 00:51:33,470
He taught us everything we know about production.

855
00:51:34,430 --> 00:51:36,557
He'd been a great teacher, great mentor.

856
00:51:36,849 --> 00:51:39,018
We spent about three or four weeks...

857
00:51:39,393 --> 00:51:41,854
writing about three or four songs that were...

858
00:51:42,021 --> 00:51:43,439
three of which were rejected

859
00:51:43,606 --> 00:51:44,982
and one which was accepted,

860
00:51:45,149 --> 00:51:46,483
which was called Wind Of Change.

861
00:51:46,650 --> 00:51:48,235
When it came to dubbing the bass
on Wind of Change,

862
00:51:48,402 --> 00:51:49,612
I came in,

863
00:51:49,945 --> 00:51:51,030
and Arif said "OK?"

864
00:51:51,196 --> 00:51:51,989
I said, "Yep."

865
00:51:52,156 --> 00:51:53,240
So, we started the track

866
00:51:53,407 --> 00:51:54,325
and I did one take,

867
00:51:54,491 --> 00:51:55,743
and he went, "Wonderful,"

868
00:51:56,660 --> 00:51:58,162
without changing a part,

869
00:51:58,579 --> 00:51:59,622
and I said,

870
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:00,873
"You don't want to change this?"

871
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,042
He said, "No! that was brilliant. Wonderful."

872
00:52:04,084 --> 00:52:05,669
And I knew I'd made it in his eyes,

873
00:52:05,878 --> 00:52:08,130
because he never told me to change anything.

874
00:52:08,547 --> 00:52:09,840
Because of what he taught me,

875
00:52:10,007 --> 00:52:12,384
from all the previous tracks I'd played bass on,

876
00:52:12,718 --> 00:52:15,596
I was with him, I was behind the beat.

877
00:52:15,763 --> 00:52:17,890
He was going, "Great, great."

878
00:52:18,724 --> 00:52:20,017
And I was chuffed.

879
00:52:20,184 --> 00:52:22,227
I went home laughing my head off.

880
00:52:22,394 --> 00:52:23,020
I couldn't believe it.

881
00:52:23,187 --> 00:52:24,730
I'd played the way he loved it.

882
00:52:36,659 --> 00:52:38,410
The next thing after Wind Of Change

883
00:52:38,577 --> 00:52:39,411
was Nights On Broadway,

884
00:52:39,578 --> 00:52:40,245
'cause Ahmet said,

885
00:52:40,412 --> 00:52:41,997
"I want more like that."

886
00:53:44,518 --> 00:53:45,936
And so, Nights On Broadway,

887
00:53:46,103 --> 00:53:47,730
or rather Lights On Broadway,

888
00:53:47,896 --> 00:53:51,734
which is what it was called in the first place,
became the second accepted track,

889
00:53:51,984 --> 00:53:53,610
and it just moved on from there.

890
00:53:53,777 --> 00:53:57,239
Jive Talkin' happened during
the middle of the sessions

891
00:53:57,573 --> 00:53:59,616
when we were driving home one night...

892
00:53:59,783 --> 00:54:00,576
over a bridge.

893
00:54:00,743 --> 00:54:01,869
I just remember going in the car...

894
00:54:02,035 --> 00:54:05,122
and hearing this...

895
00:54:05,289 --> 00:54:06,457
every time we crossed this bridge.

896
00:54:13,756 --> 00:54:14,465
And Barry had noticed it...

897
00:54:14,631 --> 00:54:17,384
and he was going...

898
00:54:17,801 --> 00:54:18,802
Thinking of the dance.

899
00:54:18,969 --> 00:54:20,304
"You dance with your eyes."

900
00:54:20,471 --> 00:54:21,263
That's all he had.

901
00:54:21,513 --> 00:54:25,309
And we were going...

902
00:54:25,476 --> 00:54:26,643
At exactly 35 miles an hour,

903
00:54:26,810 --> 00:54:28,061
that's what we got.

904
00:54:47,164 --> 00:54:48,165
We played it to Arif,

905
00:54:48,332 --> 00:54:51,043
and he went,
"Do you know what jive talkin' means?"

906
00:54:51,168 --> 00:54:52,586
And we said, "Well, yeah."

907
00:54:52,753 --> 00:54:54,463
"It's, you know, you're dancing."

908
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:55,964
He says, "No."

909
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:57,966
I'm putting on this Turkish accent...

910
00:54:58,133 --> 00:54:59,468
because this is how he talks.

911
00:54:59,968 --> 00:55:00,761
And he says, "No."

912
00:55:00,928 --> 00:55:03,055
"It's a black expression for bull****ing"

913
00:55:03,806 --> 00:55:05,349
And we went, "Oh, really?"

914
00:55:05,516 --> 00:55:08,352
"Jive talkin', you're telling me lies..."

915
00:55:09,311 --> 00:55:10,145
And changed it.

916
00:55:13,315 --> 00:55:15,818
But he gave us the groove, the tempo, everything.

917
00:55:15,984 --> 00:55:17,277
He said, "This is your groove."

918
00:55:17,444 --> 00:55:18,612
Because we were English,

919
00:55:18,862 --> 00:55:20,405
we were less self-conscious

920
00:55:20,572 --> 00:55:22,324
about exploring the no-go areas

921
00:55:22,658 --> 00:55:25,619
that a lot of American artists and groups
would have done.

922
00:55:25,786 --> 00:55:26,453
Especially white ones.

923
00:55:26,620 --> 00:55:27,871
They were always saying,

924
00:55:28,038 --> 00:55:29,873
"Don't go in the black area."

925
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,041
"You've got to be, you know..."

926
00:55:31,250 --> 00:55:32,793
If you were white, you just stayed out.

927
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,211
People were scared that,

928
00:55:34,378 --> 00:55:35,712
if they did, they would make fools of themselves.

929
00:55:35,879 --> 00:55:38,090
But we did it...
because we were serious about it.

930
00:55:38,257 --> 00:55:40,342
We didn't think that there was any no-go areas.

931
00:55:40,509 --> 00:55:41,343
It was music.

932
00:55:52,145 --> 00:55:52,729
Robert Stigwood wanted...

933
00:55:52,896 --> 00:55:54,565
Jive Talkin' as the first single.

934
00:55:54,773 --> 00:55:55,899
And Jerry Greenberg at Atlantic...

935
00:55:56,066 --> 00:55:57,693
and Ahmet Ertegun said,

936
00:55:57,860 --> 00:55:59,111
"We think Nights On Broadway,"

937
00:55:59,278 --> 00:56:00,904
"because we don't think people"

938
00:56:01,238 --> 00:56:04,908
"will actually accept this from the Bee Gees"

939
00:56:05,117 --> 00:56:07,744
"because, first of all, you haven't
done anything like this before,"

940
00:56:07,911 --> 00:56:09,872
"and secondly, it's very black,"

941
00:56:10,038 --> 00:56:11,582
"it's not something that would be accepted."

942
00:56:11,748 --> 00:56:14,251
Robert said, "That's exactly why..."

943
00:56:14,418 --> 00:56:15,335
"I want this to be the first single."

944
00:56:15,502 --> 00:56:17,004
When Jive Talkin' came out,

945
00:56:17,212 --> 00:56:18,422
everybody went, "Who?"

946
00:56:19,256 --> 00:56:21,675
"The Bee Gees 'Broken Heart' Bee Gees?
Are you kidding?"

947
00:56:22,217 --> 00:56:24,219
"You mean, the same group that did...

948
00:56:24,595 --> 00:56:26,555
Whoa." Nobody knew.

949
00:56:27,139 --> 00:56:28,724
And that changed our whole career.

950
00:56:28,891 --> 00:56:30,726
And it became a number one record.

951
00:56:30,976 --> 00:56:34,396
And we knew that was the start of the...

952
00:56:34,980 --> 00:56:37,941
our black music influences with Arif Mardin

953
00:56:38,150 --> 00:56:40,944
being expressed to its full potential.

954
00:56:41,153 --> 00:56:42,404
We were completing Nights On Broadway,

955
00:56:42,571 --> 00:56:44,072
we'd just done most of the vocal tracks...

956
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:45,908
and all the harmonies and stuff,

957
00:56:46,450 --> 00:56:47,326
and usually, at the end...

958
00:56:47,492 --> 00:56:48,619
you have some ad libs

959
00:56:48,785 --> 00:56:50,913
to take us away from the original melody...

960
00:56:51,079 --> 00:56:51,955
and have some fun.

961
00:56:52,122 --> 00:56:54,166
Arif wanted us to sort of sing,

962
00:56:54,333 --> 00:56:55,959
or try to scream like Paul McCartney...

963
00:56:56,168 --> 00:56:57,794
would sometimes scream in falsetto.

964
00:56:57,961 --> 00:56:59,129
So, Barry said, "I'll have a go."

965
00:56:59,338 --> 00:57:01,298
So, he did the "blaming it alls"...

966
00:57:01,465 --> 00:57:03,091
ad lib on the end of...

967
00:57:03,258 --> 00:57:04,009
Nights On Broadway.

968
00:57:16,563 --> 00:57:18,315
He screamed, and it's the first time...

969
00:57:18,482 --> 00:57:20,442
I've heard him scream in tune with the melody.

970
00:57:20,609 --> 00:57:22,861
And in doing so,
I discovered I had a falsetto voice.

971
00:57:26,657 --> 00:57:27,908
I knew it was back there somewhere,

972
00:57:28,075 --> 00:57:30,243
because we'd tried things like that early on.

973
00:57:30,661 --> 00:57:32,204
And we thought, "That's brilliant."

974
00:57:32,996 --> 00:57:35,248
So, after that, actually,
we wrote "Fanny Be Tender"

975
00:57:35,415 --> 00:57:38,335
'cause we wanted
to do a whole song in falsetto.

976
00:57:38,502 --> 00:57:39,544
'Cause we loved the Stylistics,

977
00:57:39,711 --> 00:57:43,256
we loved the Spinners, the Delfonics.

978
00:57:43,423 --> 00:57:45,425
They were coming out
with these records like...

979
00:57:46,969 --> 00:57:49,012
they were all falsetto lead singers.

980
00:57:49,346 --> 00:57:51,640
And that was black, R&B, at the time,

981
00:57:51,807 --> 00:57:53,350
that's what they called it at the time.

982
00:57:53,642 --> 00:57:55,102
We were into all that stuff.

983
00:58:17,082 --> 00:58:19,626
Fanny Be Tender, I think, convinced us

984
00:58:20,127 --> 00:58:21,461
that we were now recording...

985
00:58:21,628 --> 00:58:24,464
the kind of music that was going to take us
to the next plateau.

986
00:58:24,631 --> 00:58:29,219
For the first time also, apart from
going onto the Billboard Pop Charts,

987
00:58:29,386 --> 00:58:31,346
we were actually on the black charts as well

988
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,598
where there were no white acts,

989
00:58:33,765 --> 00:58:35,517
and that was telling us something,

990
00:58:35,684 --> 00:58:40,272
that we were in an area
we would never have gone into before.

991
00:58:54,411 --> 00:58:55,912
We just felt tremendously happy.

992
00:58:56,163 --> 00:58:58,373
We were just so knocked out
hat we had an audience again,

993
00:58:59,249 --> 00:59:00,751
and to have that success,

994
00:59:00,917 --> 00:59:02,085
'cause even before that

995
00:59:02,294 --> 00:59:03,754
we weren't even looking for a thing like a Fever,

996
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:04,588
or anything like that,

997
00:59:04,755 --> 00:59:06,673
we were just making music.

998
00:59:07,382 --> 00:59:08,425
And Children Of The World,

999
00:59:08,592 --> 00:59:09,634
which followed that,

1000
00:59:09,801 --> 00:59:11,053
we had You Should Be Dancing,

1001
00:59:11,428 --> 00:59:13,096
which is the only obvious dance song
we ever wrote,

1002
00:59:13,263 --> 00:59:16,183
and Love So Right were two number ones off that.

1003
00:59:16,475 --> 00:59:18,185
They were, like, triple platinum.

1004
00:59:18,351 --> 00:59:20,312
We were just coasting along here.

1005
00:59:20,437 --> 00:59:21,813
"We're having a ball. This is great."

1006
00:59:21,980 --> 00:59:23,774
We were having a great time,

1007
00:59:23,940 --> 00:59:25,442
and it's only till the Fever thing happened,

1008
00:59:25,609 --> 00:59:27,611
that's when everything exploded,

1009
00:59:28,445 --> 00:59:29,780
when the world just went crazy.

1010
00:59:49,591 --> 00:59:51,009
We had a phone call from Robert

1011
00:59:51,176 --> 00:59:53,595
saying Paramount was making a movie
and he was producing.

1012
00:59:53,762 --> 00:59:54,805
He told us it was about this guy...

1013
00:59:54,971 --> 00:59:57,265
who works in a paint shop in Brooklyn,

1014
00:59:57,641 --> 00:59:59,142
he blows his wages every Saturday night
in a club...

1015
00:59:59,309 --> 01:00:00,352
and wins a dance competition.

1016
01:00:00,477 --> 01:00:03,647
We thought, "Nice one, Rob."

1017
01:00:05,065 --> 01:00:07,109
John Travolta was dancing in the film to...

1018
01:00:07,275 --> 01:00:08,026
You Should Be Dancing,

1019
01:00:08,193 --> 01:00:08,985
which had been a hit off...

1020
01:00:09,152 --> 01:00:11,196
Children Of The World, the previous album.

1021
01:00:11,613 --> 01:00:14,116
And Robert wanted to know if we had anything,

1022
01:00:14,282 --> 01:00:16,785
or if we could write more songs for the film.

1023
01:00:17,077 --> 01:00:17,828
We went OK,

1024
01:00:17,994 --> 01:00:19,329
so we had Staying Alive,

1025
01:00:19,496 --> 01:00:20,497
How Deep Is Your Love,

1026
01:00:20,664 --> 01:00:22,040
and If I Can't Have You,

1027
01:00:22,207 --> 01:00:23,667
were the first three ones that he heard.

1028
01:00:23,917 --> 01:00:26,545
And he said, "Great, this is fantastic."

1029
01:00:26,878 --> 01:00:31,258
And to us, this was most likely
to be our new album.

1030
01:00:31,424 --> 01:00:34,261
So he came back about a month later
and asked for some more.

1031
01:00:35,387 --> 01:00:37,097
"Our album's gone now."

1032
01:00:37,264 --> 01:00:40,016
So we ended up with about eight
of our songs in the film.

1033
01:00:40,183 --> 01:00:41,810
But in those days, you thought,

1034
01:00:42,102 --> 01:00:44,396
"God, you'd pay people
to put your songs in a film."

1035
01:00:44,521 --> 01:00:45,939
"It's a great promotion."

1036
01:00:46,398 --> 01:00:48,108
There was a suggestion that...

1037
01:00:48,275 --> 01:00:50,944
Stayin' Alive should be called Saturday Night,

1038
01:00:51,361 --> 01:00:53,113
and Robert said, "No, you should keep it."

1039
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:54,823
"Stayin' Alive? It's like buried alive."

1040
01:00:54,990 --> 01:00:56,950
No, the opposite.

1041
01:00:57,117 --> 01:00:58,243
It's actually staying alive.

1042
01:00:58,618 --> 01:01:00,537
And Robert dug his heels in,

1043
01:01:00,704 --> 01:01:02,497
because they thought it was
a very sophisticated title...

1044
01:01:02,664 --> 01:01:03,415
for a popular song,

1045
01:01:03,540 --> 01:01:05,208
but we wouldn't budge,

1046
01:01:05,375 --> 01:01:07,043
because there are
so many songs called Saturday Night.

1047
01:01:07,210 --> 01:01:08,879
But we did have a song called Night Fever,

1048
01:01:09,045 --> 01:01:10,213
and the compromise was

1049
01:01:10,422 --> 01:01:12,716
that we suggested the title of the film
should be...

1050
01:01:12,883 --> 01:01:14,217
Saturday Night Fever,

1051
01:01:14,467 --> 01:01:16,720
but we would have the song Night Fever
on the album...

1052
01:01:16,887 --> 01:01:17,846
without Saturday on it.

1053
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,602
So we stayed on the path
that we'd always stayed on,

1054
01:02:05,769 --> 01:02:10,106
and that is, "Let's just make
what we believe is a great record."

1055
01:02:10,690 --> 01:02:12,359
And we continued with that...

1056
01:02:12,525 --> 01:02:14,277
for about six or seven songs,

1057
01:02:15,028 --> 01:02:18,907
never really knowing whether or not
they were going to be used in the movie.

1058
01:02:19,115 --> 01:02:20,116
We didn't go near the film.

1059
01:02:20,283 --> 01:02:22,494
The only time
we went near the film was the premiere

1060
01:02:22,661 --> 01:02:24,663
where we stood
at the back of the theatre listening,

1061
01:02:25,121 --> 01:02:27,874
and at least being able to say to Robert,

1062
01:02:28,166 --> 01:02:31,127
"It's wonderful, but when you're in a club,"

1063
01:02:31,294 --> 01:02:32,796
"you can't hear people dancing."

1064
01:02:33,755 --> 01:02:35,632
- That's right.
- The music was too soft.

1065
01:02:36,299 --> 01:02:39,511
And if you're in a club,
you don't hear people going like...

1066
01:02:39,678 --> 01:02:40,303
You don't hear their feet.

1067
01:02:40,512 --> 01:02:42,264
You don't hear all this stuff.

1068
01:02:43,139 --> 01:02:45,475
Robert got the point, pumped the music up,

1069
01:02:46,184 --> 01:02:47,811
took out all the noises of the feet,

1070
01:02:47,978 --> 01:02:49,020
and that's what you have now.

1071
01:03:45,910 --> 01:03:48,371
Being in Miami, you're in a sort of goldfish bowl.

1072
01:03:48,538 --> 01:03:50,707
You don't see much of what's going on out there.

1073
01:03:51,166 --> 01:03:53,335
When we were here writing for the Spirits album,

1074
01:03:53,501 --> 01:03:56,129
we didn't think about what Fever was doing,

1075
01:03:56,296 --> 01:03:58,173
we didn't really know that much.

1076
01:03:58,590 --> 01:04:00,008
We were locked away for about a month...

1077
01:04:00,175 --> 01:04:01,760
before How Deep Is Your Love came out,

1078
01:04:01,926 --> 01:04:04,346
and that was a number one
before the film came out.

1079
01:04:04,846 --> 01:04:06,014
I remember everyone saying,

1080
01:04:06,181 --> 01:04:07,182
"What a great R&B ballad."

1081
01:04:07,390 --> 01:04:08,350
And as soon as the film came out...

1082
01:04:08,516 --> 01:04:09,976
they said, "What a great disco ballad."

1083
01:04:10,143 --> 01:04:11,603
It was so opposite, it was so funny.

1084
01:04:11,853 --> 01:04:13,396
The one thing that still affects us...

1085
01:04:13,563 --> 01:04:14,522
is How Deep Is Your Love.

1086
01:04:14,689 --> 01:04:17,067
No matter how it's sung,
it's still a beautiful song.

1087
01:04:17,233 --> 01:04:19,944
So it wasn't all what you would call dance music.

1088
01:04:20,278 --> 01:04:22,572
But then of course we became
the biggest disco band around,

1089
01:04:22,739 --> 01:04:24,616
which totally amazed us,

1090
01:04:24,741 --> 01:04:27,369
because we always thought KC was the disco thing,

1091
01:04:27,535 --> 01:04:28,620
and Donna Summer.

1092
01:04:28,745 --> 01:04:29,746
It was all great fun stuff,

1093
01:04:29,913 --> 01:04:30,663
it was party music,

1094
01:04:30,830 --> 01:04:32,791
but we never regarded ourselves as that.

1095
01:04:32,999 --> 01:04:35,001
All I know is when we were recording these songs,

1096
01:04:35,543 --> 01:04:36,878
we didn't think about dancing,

1097
01:04:37,045 --> 01:04:39,506
we were just thinking about songs.

1098
01:04:39,672 --> 01:04:40,173
We didn't even know...

1099
01:04:40,340 --> 01:04:42,592
the word disco music existed.

1100
01:04:42,759 --> 01:04:43,927
It was coined after the film,

1101
01:04:44,094 --> 01:04:45,345
because of the film's success.

1102
01:04:45,512 --> 01:04:47,806
None of us expected the success that Fever had.

1103
01:04:48,056 --> 01:04:50,308
And the album started doing a million a week.

1104
01:04:50,475 --> 01:04:51,810
This was pretty shocking for us.

1105
01:04:51,976 --> 01:04:54,562
We couldn't even look at those numbers,
we couldn't understand it.

1106
01:04:54,771 --> 01:04:57,399
Such a phenomenon,
other record companies were printing it,

1107
01:04:57,565 --> 01:04:59,275
our record company couldn't keep up the pace.

1108
01:05:10,328 --> 01:05:11,287
It was an incredible feeling,

1109
01:05:11,454 --> 01:05:13,123
it was like being in the eye of a storm.

1110
01:05:13,289 --> 01:05:15,875
You didn't have a real sense
of what was going on around you.

1111
01:05:16,418 --> 01:05:20,463
You couldn't answer your phone and you
had people climbing over your walls.

1112
01:05:21,214 --> 01:05:23,675
So, it was extremely crazy...

1113
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:25,343
and something we weren't used to

1114
01:05:25,510 --> 01:05:26,511
because we'd never experienced...

1115
01:05:26,678 --> 01:05:29,139
that kind of fame or good fortune.

1116
01:05:29,305 --> 01:05:31,641
It actually has affected, in many ways,

1117
01:05:31,808 --> 01:05:34,269
the culture in a very sort of subconscious way

1118
01:05:34,686 --> 01:05:36,521
that very few vehicles have.

1119
01:05:36,813 --> 01:05:39,315
And that's an amazing thing
is it still gets played,

1120
01:05:39,482 --> 01:05:41,693
and we don't even understand that.

1121
01:05:42,277 --> 01:05:44,737
We just... we're bewildered by it.

1122
01:05:44,904 --> 01:05:47,699
There's something magical
about when something happens,

1123
01:05:47,824 --> 01:05:49,659
you just don't know where this is,

1124
01:05:49,826 --> 01:05:54,414
where this captures the imagination
of millions of people at the same time.

1125
01:05:54,747 --> 01:05:57,500
It goes beyond being just a hit album.

1126
01:06:08,344 --> 01:06:10,388
Disco is a bad word

1127
01:06:11,014 --> 01:06:16,227
if you're not the group
that disco is built around.

1128
01:06:16,519 --> 01:06:19,481
And we're the group that disco was built around.

1129
01:06:19,856 --> 01:06:22,400
And so, based on that,

1130
01:06:22,567 --> 01:06:24,402
we're very, very happy with the word disco.

1131
01:06:24,569 --> 01:06:25,111
Absolutely.

1132
01:06:25,278 --> 01:06:29,449
It was an amazing experience
in the recording industry.

1133
01:06:29,616 --> 01:06:30,617
There was no radio station...

1134
01:06:30,783 --> 01:06:35,079
that wasn't playing back-to-back
Gibb brothers songs.

1135
01:06:35,246 --> 01:06:39,000
And of course, the record business
was pretty angry

1136
01:06:39,167 --> 01:06:41,461
'cause they couldn't get records on the playlist.

1137
01:06:41,628 --> 01:06:44,339
It was number one on the Billboard Chart
for six months unbroken.

1138
01:06:44,547 --> 01:06:47,091
Fever did around 30 to 35 million.

1139
01:06:47,258 --> 01:06:49,052
Thriller did approximately 50 million

1140
01:06:49,385 --> 01:06:52,180
and we're quite happy to be second to Michael

1141
01:06:52,347 --> 01:06:55,016
and we've had a lot of giggles about that.

1142
01:07:04,108 --> 01:07:05,818
Ladies and gentleman, our brother Andy!

1143
01:07:16,913 --> 01:07:19,791
The door was always open for Andy.
It was not like ever closed off.

1144
01:07:19,999 --> 01:07:23,294
Andy wanted to be one of us,
always wanted to be part of us,

1145
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,965
and the difference in the age was quite radical.

1146
01:07:27,131 --> 01:07:28,800
So, it never quite worked out.

1147
01:07:29,092 --> 01:07:32,595
As time went on, Andy watching, listening,

1148
01:07:32,804 --> 01:07:34,264
witnessing what we were doing,

1149
01:07:34,430 --> 01:07:38,017
began to feel this was something
he could do too as an individual.

1150
01:07:38,184 --> 01:07:39,185
And that's really how it came about.

1151
01:07:39,352 --> 01:07:43,898
The first time I ever saw Andy perform
in the way that we had performed...

1152
01:07:44,065 --> 01:07:45,400
was onstage in Ibiza.

1153
01:07:45,567 --> 01:07:47,235
We were living in Ibiza at the time...

1154
01:07:47,402 --> 01:07:49,153
and frequenting a certain club,

1155
01:07:49,445 --> 01:07:51,906
and Andy would get up on stage and sing.

1156
01:07:52,615 --> 01:07:55,118
And we'd also strum a lot at home

1157
01:07:55,285 --> 01:07:58,413
and sing old Mills Brothers songs
and all that stuff.

1158
01:07:58,580 --> 01:08:00,999
And I began to realize that Andy was doing...

1159
01:08:01,165 --> 01:08:02,333
what the three of us were doing.

1160
01:08:02,625 --> 01:08:08,506
And realizing that herein is another
young artist waiting to come out.

1161
01:08:09,090 --> 01:08:10,842
Any resemblance between this next fella

1162
01:08:11,009 --> 01:08:13,094
and the Bee Gees is purely intentional...

1163
01:08:13,261 --> 01:08:14,262
it's their younger brother Andy.

1164
01:08:14,429 --> 01:08:16,097
Andy Gibb and his debut single release,

1165
01:08:16,264 --> 01:08:17,181
already a hit in America,

1166
01:08:17,348 --> 01:08:19,726
called I Just Wanna Be Your Everything.

1167
01:09:24,207 --> 01:09:24,916
We were like twins.

1168
01:09:25,083 --> 01:09:27,210
His voice was very much like mine.
It was uncanny.

1169
01:09:27,377 --> 01:09:29,170
We had almost the same kind of voice.

1170
01:09:29,379 --> 01:09:33,049
Robin's voice, much higher than mine or Andy's,
but we were very much alike.

1171
01:09:33,216 --> 01:09:34,550
We even had the same birthmarks,

1172
01:09:34,717 --> 01:09:36,260
which we could never figure out.

1173
01:09:36,803 --> 01:09:39,597
We were alike in so many ways,
it was unbelievable.

1174
01:09:39,764 --> 01:09:41,474
We were the only two brothers who loved tennis,

1175
01:09:41,641 --> 01:09:43,559
and we shared all the same ideals,

1176
01:09:43,726 --> 01:09:45,061
all the same opinions about things.

1177
01:09:45,228 --> 01:09:46,604
We never differed on anything.

1178
01:10:04,414 --> 01:10:06,708
I made sure Robert heard what Andy had been doing.

1179
01:10:06,874 --> 01:10:09,210
Andy invited Robert and I to Bermuda.

1180
01:10:09,794 --> 01:10:12,255
We'd convinced Andy to get together with me

1181
01:10:12,422 --> 01:10:14,090
to see if we could come up with something.

1182
01:10:14,257 --> 01:10:15,842
The first thing was...

1183
01:10:16,008 --> 01:10:17,135
I Just Want To Be Your Everything,

1184
01:10:17,301 --> 01:10:18,886
the second was Thicker Than Water,

1185
01:10:19,262 --> 01:10:22,306
and the third was something all four of us
wrote together...

1186
01:10:22,724 --> 01:10:23,933
called Shadow Dancing.

1187
01:10:33,443 --> 01:10:34,444
He started writing more...

1188
01:10:34,610 --> 01:10:35,987
and he was getting better.

1189
01:10:36,112 --> 01:10:38,489
He was doing very well in terms of number ones...

1190
01:10:38,698 --> 01:10:39,991
and consecutive singles.

1191
01:10:40,116 --> 01:10:41,284
If it was an artist today,

1192
01:10:41,451 --> 01:10:42,785
it would be loud and proud.

1193
01:11:01,095 --> 01:11:02,638
Andy had great strife in life,

1194
01:11:02,805 --> 01:11:04,015
not unlike Maurice's.

1195
01:11:04,140 --> 01:11:05,850
And perhaps, perhaps not,

1196
01:11:06,142 --> 01:11:07,435
that's what ended his life.

1197
01:11:07,602 --> 01:11:09,187
But with the drugs and the cocaine abuse

1198
01:11:09,353 --> 01:11:12,148
that he had done in LA
and stuff over his young life,

1199
01:11:12,315 --> 01:11:14,817
he had been involved
with a lot of people who were doing drugs.

1200
01:11:15,318 --> 01:11:17,028
So, about six months before he died,

1201
01:11:17,153 --> 01:11:18,738
he went back to England to stay at Robin's house.

1202
01:11:18,905 --> 01:11:20,323
Then we'd heard he was hitting the liquor store,

1203
01:11:20,490 --> 01:11:21,908
and he did it for 48 hours,

1204
01:11:22,074 --> 01:11:25,286
I believe, he was drinking,
when he was taken into hospital.

1205
01:11:25,745 --> 01:11:27,497
The day before was his 30th birthday.

1206
01:11:27,663 --> 01:11:28,873
I called to wish him happy birthday

1207
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:30,291
and Robin said "He can't come to the phone,"

1208
01:11:30,458 --> 01:11:31,709
"he's out of his skull."

1209
01:11:32,335 --> 01:11:35,213
And I said, "Oh, well, tell him to sod off."
"Go away."

1210
01:11:35,379 --> 01:11:37,590
And I put the phone down, and I got very angry.

1211
01:11:38,424 --> 01:11:39,717
And I thought, "When will he learn?"

1212
01:11:46,599 --> 01:11:48,559
And it was three days after that.

1213
01:11:48,726 --> 01:11:50,853
Ken, who works for Robin, called us

1214
01:11:51,062 --> 01:11:52,855
about six in the morning, seven in the morning,

1215
01:11:53,314 --> 01:11:57,401
and said that Andy had passed away,
and I just dropped the phone.

1216
01:12:10,081 --> 01:12:10,456
The last thing...

1217
01:12:10,623 --> 01:12:12,708
that happened between me and Andy,
was an argument,

1218
01:12:12,875 --> 01:12:14,085
which is devastating for me,

1219
01:12:14,210 --> 01:12:15,795
because I have to live with that all my life.

1220
01:12:16,045 --> 01:12:18,214
There was a phone call between him and me.

1221
01:12:18,381 --> 01:12:21,259
I was saying, "You've got
to get your act together, this is no good."

1222
01:12:21,425 --> 01:12:24,887
Instead of being gentle about it, I was angry,

1223
01:12:25,263 --> 01:12:27,807
because someone had said to me at some point,

1224
01:12:27,974 --> 01:12:29,517
"Tough love is the answer."

1225
01:12:29,976 --> 01:12:31,519
So for me it wasn't,

1226
01:12:31,686 --> 01:12:33,020
because that was the last conversation we had.

1227
01:12:33,187 --> 01:12:35,064
That's my regret, that's what I live with.

1228
01:12:35,231 --> 01:12:37,149
We approached him to be a Bee Gee,

1229
01:12:37,316 --> 01:12:39,151
we would've loved him to have been a Bee Gee.

1230
01:12:39,318 --> 01:12:41,445
I think if he had've been,

1231
01:12:41,612 --> 01:12:43,614
he may still be with us,

1232
01:12:44,282 --> 01:12:46,325
but then, we don't know.

1233
01:12:47,201 --> 01:12:48,077
Michael Jackson, for instance,

1234
01:12:48,244 --> 01:12:49,787
I think if people had said all the nice things

1235
01:12:49,954 --> 01:12:51,581
they did on the day he died,

1236
01:12:51,747 --> 01:12:54,125
when he was alive, he may still have been alive.

1237
01:12:54,584 --> 01:12:55,960
That's just the irony, but...

1238
01:12:56,335 --> 01:12:58,546
some people need to hear it when they're alive.

1239
01:13:05,261 --> 01:13:07,138
We had to go in the studio the week after.

1240
01:13:07,263 --> 01:13:08,681
We thought, maybe if we got back to work...

1241
01:13:08,973 --> 01:13:11,434
we can get re-centered, or something.

1242
01:13:11,642 --> 01:13:13,394
And I had to...

1243
01:13:15,563 --> 01:13:18,232
I was playing the strings,
and it was very beautiful.

1244
01:13:19,066 --> 01:13:21,402
Barry and Robin just started crying,
and I just started crying.

1245
01:13:21,569 --> 01:13:22,612
I said, "I can't play."

1246
01:13:22,778 --> 01:13:23,946
We went home,

1247
01:13:24,238 --> 01:13:25,865
and about a month later we came back in...

1248
01:13:26,032 --> 01:13:28,784
and then we did Wish You Were Here for Andy.

1249
01:13:29,410 --> 01:13:31,537
And that was difficult to sing, very difficult,

1250
01:13:31,996 --> 01:13:33,748
but we wanted to sing it, we wanted to do it.

1251
01:13:34,624 --> 01:13:37,960
But there was such a hauntingness on
the sound I was getting on the keyboards,

1252
01:13:38,169 --> 01:13:39,629
it was so pretty.

1253
01:13:39,879 --> 01:13:40,796
And I was just playing these chords...

1254
01:13:40,963 --> 01:13:42,632
that just went into beautiful melodies

1255
01:13:43,341 --> 01:13:46,427
and Barry and Robin just... "Maybe next week,"

1256
01:13:46,677 --> 01:13:47,595
and we left.

1257
01:14:00,983 --> 01:14:02,485
- No.
- Hang on.

1258
01:14:02,652 --> 01:14:04,987
- It's too slow.
- The way we rehearsed it last night.

1259
01:14:05,196 --> 01:14:05,988
We'll go straight again.

1260
01:14:21,379 --> 01:14:22,505
- Go on, now.
- Go on, now.

1261
01:14:25,758 --> 01:14:27,551
- No, hold it. Hold it.
- One more.

1262
01:14:27,802 --> 01:14:28,219
It would be nice

1263
01:14:28,344 --> 01:14:29,887
if we could find a bigger sound for that solo.

1264
01:14:30,346 --> 01:14:33,182
- Great.
- Bigger, rounder. All right.

1265
01:14:34,642 --> 01:14:36,477
Yeah, just like that, yeah, beautiful.

1266
01:14:36,936 --> 01:14:38,312
Let's do it again, second half of the chorus,

1267
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:39,981
but bring that sound in, that's great.

1268
01:14:40,856 --> 01:14:44,777
Yeah. OK. One, two, three, four...

1269
01:14:50,825 --> 01:14:53,869
When somebody stops singing something
really interesting, as soon as he stops,

1270
01:14:54,036 --> 01:14:57,665
an instrument takes over doing something
that's equally interesting.

1271
01:14:58,582 --> 01:15:00,042
When that instrument stops
and the voice comes back,

1272
01:15:00,251 --> 01:15:01,252
the voice has to be equally interesting

1273
01:15:01,377 --> 01:15:03,295
as the instrumental before it.

1274
01:15:04,130 --> 01:15:05,047
So, anywhere there's a space,

1275
01:15:05,214 --> 01:15:06,799
you make an interesting situation happen.

1276
01:15:16,517 --> 01:15:18,060
When we were doing Tragedy, for instance,

1277
01:15:18,394 --> 01:15:20,062
we wanted the sound of an explosion

1278
01:15:20,271 --> 01:15:22,481
to come at a certain point,
to accentuate the track.

1279
01:15:23,274 --> 01:15:24,775
So we all gathered in the control booth,

1280
01:15:24,942 --> 01:15:26,068
and listened to the track back.

1281
01:15:26,944 --> 01:15:29,447
- It might work.
- Now, listen.

1282
01:15:33,034 --> 01:15:34,410
- Right in that slot there.
- An explosion.

1283
01:15:37,413 --> 01:15:38,831
- Perhaps a little earlier.
- You will find it?

1284
01:15:38,998 --> 01:15:39,915
That's the place...

1285
01:15:40,082 --> 01:15:42,043
- What might work...
you always sang it.

1286
01:15:42,334 --> 01:15:44,170
Yeah, just like I did then,

1287
01:15:44,336 --> 01:15:45,546
just go to the mic and go...

1288
01:15:46,714 --> 01:15:48,132
Maybe we can turn it into an explosion.

1289
01:15:48,299 --> 01:15:49,967
Let's try overloading it.

1290
01:15:50,134 --> 01:15:52,094
Try it first, just so we find the place,

1291
01:15:52,303 --> 01:15:53,387
see if you can find that beat.

1292
01:15:53,554 --> 01:15:55,931
- What about a real explosion?
- The air force base?

1293
01:15:56,098 --> 01:15:57,016
Where do we find one?

1294
01:15:57,183 --> 01:15:58,768
Max has got some dynamite in his office.

1295
01:15:59,810 --> 01:16:02,354
- Let's go.
- Let me give it a go...

1296
01:16:02,521 --> 01:16:04,774
- before we go to get the dynamite.
- OK.

1297
01:16:05,441 --> 01:16:07,610
- This will be interesting.
- Hope everything comes out all right.

1298
01:16:08,444 --> 01:16:08,944
See if he finds it.

1299
01:16:09,111 --> 01:16:11,614
Yeah. He's got to get it in the right spot.

1300
01:16:11,781 --> 01:16:14,617
Feed me some track. Let's give it a shot.

1301
01:16:28,672 --> 01:16:29,757
Sorry about that.

1302
01:16:29,924 --> 01:16:33,761
I think... Barry, loosen your shirt.

1303
01:16:35,387 --> 01:16:36,222
It was a prank.

1304
01:16:36,388 --> 01:16:39,141
Maybe you should just close your eyes
and really concentrate on the meter.

1305
01:16:39,391 --> 01:16:41,894
- I'll be counting.
- OK. I'll be counting.

1306
01:16:42,061 --> 01:16:43,145
I'll be counting!

1307
01:16:54,949 --> 01:16:56,700
- Yeah, that was it.
- Yeah.

1308
01:16:57,284 --> 01:16:58,869
- Thank you. Great.
- Fabulous.

1309
01:16:59,036 --> 01:16:59,745
That was a hair early

1310
01:16:59,912 --> 01:17:01,372
but I think when we're all together...

1311
01:17:01,539 --> 01:17:02,248
Let's hear it back.

1312
01:17:02,414 --> 01:17:03,833
It's gonna work with three of them together,

1313
01:17:03,999 --> 01:17:08,379
and maybe you could do something
soundwise with them

1314
01:17:08,504 --> 01:17:10,631
-...that's gonna make them work as well.
- Shut up and get in here.

1315
01:17:12,883 --> 01:17:15,094
Where was I? Yeah... You know that guy...

1316
01:17:15,678 --> 01:17:16,178
Let's hear it back.

1317
01:17:16,387 --> 01:17:17,513
You told me about him.

1318
01:17:18,472 --> 01:17:19,431
Was he still the same guy

1319
01:17:19,598 --> 01:17:21,892
as he was before? Really?

1320
01:17:30,192 --> 01:17:33,112
- There you go. Fantastic.
- Very nice. Very nice.

1321
01:18:05,060 --> 01:18:07,062
In retrospect, we could've
actually waited another year

1322
01:18:07,229 --> 01:18:09,690
or so before Spirits came out because it was...

1323
01:18:09,857 --> 01:18:11,734
Saturday Night Fever was still in the top ten...

1324
01:18:11,901 --> 01:18:13,485
even when we brought Spirits out.

1325
01:18:13,986 --> 01:18:15,779
Well, that was the "30-Ton Tour", I call it.

1326
01:18:16,530 --> 01:18:18,324
A lot of gear.

1327
01:18:18,490 --> 01:18:21,619
We had, like, six semi-trailers,
and we had the 707 plane.

1328
01:18:22,077 --> 01:18:23,662
It was huge.

1329
01:18:24,079 --> 01:18:26,081
I mean, Dodger Stadium, places like that.

1330
01:18:26,248 --> 01:18:27,416
We used to dream of this.

1331
01:18:27,583 --> 01:18:30,669
Having people in the audience
like Barbra Streisand

1332
01:18:31,003 --> 01:18:32,379
watching your show and loving it.

1333
01:18:32,546 --> 01:18:34,298
I mean, these are fantasies.

1334
01:18:34,465 --> 01:18:35,507
These are all dreams.

1335
01:18:35,674 --> 01:18:39,303
And to have a 707, black with red bottom

1336
01:18:39,470 --> 01:18:41,472
and our three heads on the tail and all this.

1337
01:18:41,639 --> 01:18:42,932
You're going, "Whoa!"

1338
01:18:43,265 --> 01:18:45,684
Even getting bomb threats, it was great,

1339
01:18:46,018 --> 01:18:47,102
because if you weren't important...

1340
01:18:47,269 --> 01:18:48,395
they wouldn't bomb you.

1341
01:19:37,528 --> 01:19:38,153
It was a great tour...

1342
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:39,822
and Andy joined us on that tour

1343
01:19:39,989 --> 01:19:41,740
in a few shows, even John Travolta.

1344
01:19:41,991 --> 01:19:43,993
It was just a fabulous experience.

1345
01:19:44,159 --> 01:19:46,161
To go on stage and see the audience...

1346
01:19:46,537 --> 01:19:47,746
'Cause I love... That's the only way you can...

1347
01:19:47,913 --> 01:19:51,375
say thank you, really, by going on stage live,
for putting you there.

1348
01:19:51,542 --> 01:19:53,252
That was our way of thanking people...

1349
01:19:53,669 --> 01:19:55,004
because that's the only way you can do it.

1350
01:19:55,754 --> 01:19:57,464
Because if it wasn't for the audience,
we wouldn't have been up there.

1351
01:20:04,179 --> 01:20:07,224
The 50-city tour that we did for Spirits

1352
01:20:07,391 --> 01:20:10,394
was really the beginning
of Maurice's alcohol problems...

1353
01:20:10,561 --> 01:20:12,229
But, you see, I was always very protected.

1354
01:20:12,855 --> 01:20:15,399
I didn't get all the arrests
that people would have got arrested,

1355
01:20:15,566 --> 01:20:17,943
'cause I was always protected
by people looking after me, so...

1356
01:20:18,110 --> 01:20:20,154
"Oh, he's just having a good time."

1357
01:20:20,321 --> 01:20:21,447
And they'd take me up to my room.

1358
01:20:21,613 --> 01:20:22,656
I wouldn't worry about getting to bed,

1359
01:20:22,823 --> 01:20:24,074
because they would take me to bed.

1360
01:20:24,491 --> 01:20:25,868
So we had security and people...

1361
01:20:26,035 --> 01:20:27,578
looking after us and roadies and things...

1362
01:20:27,703 --> 01:20:32,833
Saved me from a lot of driving and
speeding fines and drunk-driving tickets.

1363
01:20:33,375 --> 01:20:35,252
The only time I got the real first one
was in the Isle of Man

1364
01:20:35,419 --> 01:20:37,046
because I was the only guy in a blue Rolls-Royce

1365
01:20:37,212 --> 01:20:38,630
driving around the Isle of Man drunk.

1366
01:20:38,797 --> 01:20:41,300
I sort of stuck out like a sore thumb.

1367
01:20:41,884 --> 01:20:43,469
It was more of a question of denial.

1368
01:20:44,345 --> 01:20:48,182
It was more, "Let's keep writing, Moe will be OK."

1369
01:20:48,891 --> 01:20:51,685
And the reason
that the Streisand Guilty album

1370
01:20:51,852 --> 01:20:54,646
doesn't really involve Maurice
on more than one song,

1371
01:20:54,813 --> 01:20:57,107
which is Guilty, was because at that very point,

1372
01:20:57,274 --> 01:21:00,819
Maurice had reached the razor's edge,
he really needed to be in rehab.

1373
01:21:01,487 --> 01:21:08,077
And so this was really the whole family
coming to the same conclusion.

1374
01:21:08,243 --> 01:21:11,455
Robin and I confronting Maurice at his home,

1375
01:21:11,622 --> 01:21:13,207
with Yvonne, his wife,

1376
01:21:14,083 --> 01:21:15,667
basically having to lay down a law...

1377
01:21:15,834 --> 01:21:17,628
which we did not want to lay down,

1378
01:21:18,128 --> 01:21:20,923
which was, "Moe, it ends now,"

1379
01:21:21,090 --> 01:21:22,341
"or it ends forever."

1380
01:21:23,050 --> 01:21:28,138
And at that point Moe went into rehab
and took the step.

1381
01:21:28,305 --> 01:21:30,349
And Robin and I waited for about six months...

1382
01:21:30,516 --> 01:21:32,643
for him to come back around.

1383
01:21:33,018 --> 01:21:34,895
Then we went back in the studio together

1384
01:21:35,104 --> 01:21:36,772
and carried on as we had before.

1385
01:21:45,447 --> 01:21:46,657
We weren't functioning as a group in the '80s.

1386
01:21:46,782 --> 01:21:48,200
We were concentrating on songwriting.

1387
01:21:48,367 --> 01:21:49,743
The whole "It's time to kill Fever,"

1388
01:21:49,910 --> 01:21:51,578
"it's time to kill disco" period came in,

1389
01:21:51,745 --> 01:21:53,122
so we just sort of took a back seat.

1390
01:21:59,253 --> 01:22:00,546
The saturation point was ridiculous.

1391
01:22:00,712 --> 01:22:02,131
That's why we had to sit back,

1392
01:22:02,297 --> 01:22:04,967
and produce other people
and write for other people.

1393
01:22:05,217 --> 01:22:06,635
When we heard they were having...

1394
01:22:06,802 --> 01:22:08,303
"Bee Gee-free weekends" in Chicago

1395
01:22:08,470 --> 01:22:09,763
and places like that,

1396
01:22:09,930 --> 01:22:10,889
it was scary stuff.

1397
01:22:11,557 --> 01:22:15,185
We thought, "We'd better take the Bee Gees
on the back burner for a while"

1398
01:22:15,352 --> 01:22:17,563
"until this dies down or something."

1399
01:22:18,647 --> 01:22:21,191
So we couldn't do anything
as the Bee Gees at all.

1400
01:22:21,483 --> 01:22:23,152
We didn't make an album till '87.

1401
01:22:23,318 --> 01:22:24,653
We'd done so much in the studio,

1402
01:22:24,820 --> 01:22:27,072
over so few years...

1403
01:22:27,364 --> 01:22:29,116
that I think it all caught up with us.

1404
01:22:32,494 --> 01:22:33,704
Personally, I thought,

1405
01:22:33,871 --> 01:22:35,456
"This will give us a chance to write..."

1406
01:22:35,622 --> 01:22:36,999
For other artists."

1407
01:22:37,166 --> 01:22:38,208
We got offered Barbra.

1408
01:22:38,375 --> 01:22:40,085
I called Neil Diamond and I said,

1409
01:22:40,252 --> 01:22:42,087
"What's Barbra like to work with?"

1410
01:22:42,254 --> 01:22:44,798
He said, "She's fantastic, just go for it."

1411
01:22:59,771 --> 01:23:01,523
I remember me and Barry writing in his bedroom.

1412
01:23:01,690 --> 01:23:03,859
We'd do a song each day...

1413
01:23:04,026 --> 01:23:05,110
and then the following week

1414
01:23:05,277 --> 01:23:08,363
we'd do the lyrics to the respective song
that we'd written.

1415
01:23:08,864 --> 01:23:10,741
And we sent the seven songs that we'd finished...

1416
01:23:10,866 --> 01:23:12,784
at that point to Barbra Streisand.

1417
01:23:12,951 --> 01:23:14,036
We had an immediate yes,

1418
01:23:14,495 --> 01:23:15,162
she wanted to start right away.

1419
01:23:15,329 --> 01:23:16,997
So that was a very enjoyable experience.

1420
01:23:17,164 --> 01:23:17,623
From then, it was...

1421
01:23:17,789 --> 01:23:19,041
like Dionne Warwick's album,

1422
01:23:19,208 --> 01:23:20,501
Kenny Rogers and Dolly,

1423
01:23:21,043 --> 01:23:22,127
we all worked together and wrote.

1424
01:23:22,294 --> 01:23:24,379
I did solo stuff with Robin, which was great.

1425
01:23:24,588 --> 01:23:25,881
So everybody was doing something.

1426
01:23:26,089 --> 01:23:28,759
We were all sort of scattered at that point.

1427
01:23:28,884 --> 01:23:30,511
We all wanted some time away.

1428
01:23:30,677 --> 01:23:32,679
Robin wanted to live in New York for a little bit,

1429
01:23:33,222 --> 01:23:36,225
Maurice was having back surgery,

1430
01:23:36,892 --> 01:23:39,561
and all of these opportunities opened up,

1431
01:23:39,728 --> 01:23:40,604
we had nothing else to do.

1432
01:23:40,771 --> 01:23:42,606
That led to the Diana Ross album...

1433
01:23:42,773 --> 01:23:43,815
Chain Reaction

1434
01:23:44,149 --> 01:23:46,610
and the Kenny Rogers album with Dolly Parton...

1435
01:23:46,777 --> 01:23:47,986
and Islands In The Stream.

1436
01:24:05,379 --> 01:24:08,215
Islands I n The Stream started out as a soul song.

1437
01:24:08,382 --> 01:24:10,050
We came up with Islands In The Stream...

1438
01:24:10,217 --> 01:24:11,635
in our writing room upstairs.

1439
01:24:11,802 --> 01:24:12,886
We all looked at each other,

1440
01:24:13,053 --> 01:24:14,429
we knew we had a monster song,

1441
01:24:14,596 --> 01:24:16,265
we just didn't know who was going to record it...

1442
01:24:21,687 --> 01:24:23,105
We viewed it as an R&B song...

1443
01:24:23,272 --> 01:24:24,231
and not a country song.

1444
01:24:24,481 --> 01:24:26,483
And in the end it just came to show

1445
01:24:26,858 --> 01:24:29,820
that those two types of music
are very close together.

1446
01:24:29,945 --> 01:24:32,573
And Islands In The Stream became a country song.

1447
01:24:33,198 --> 01:24:34,992
Really, we're talking about two careers here,

1448
01:24:35,325 --> 01:24:37,160
composers and artists.

1449
01:24:37,578 --> 01:24:41,373
And the two go together,

1450
01:24:41,540 --> 01:24:43,500
but then they're separate as well.

1451
01:24:43,917 --> 01:24:48,297
They are both very, very meaningful
to us in their own way.

1452
01:24:48,463 --> 01:24:51,383
We see ourselves as composers first
and artists second...

1453
01:24:51,550 --> 01:24:54,970
because we you can't have
the second without the first.

1454
01:24:55,596 --> 01:24:58,015
We've always enjoyed writing for other people.

1455
01:24:58,181 --> 01:25:01,226
The greatest thing
about being a writer, a songwriter,

1456
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:02,561
is when you write a song...

1457
01:25:02,728 --> 01:25:04,938
with someone in mind that you really love,

1458
01:25:05,355 --> 01:25:07,024
and then that person ends up singing it,

1459
01:25:07,816 --> 01:25:09,359
there's no reward like it.

1460
01:25:09,818 --> 01:25:11,612
We wrote a song for Céline Dion,

1461
01:25:11,903 --> 01:25:12,988
called Immortality,

1462
01:25:13,322 --> 01:25:15,198
she inspired the song, she inspires us,

1463
01:25:15,616 --> 01:25:17,909
probably the finest
female pop singer in the world.

1464
01:25:18,660 --> 01:25:21,538
It was a dream that she might
sing one of our songs one day.

1465
01:25:21,705 --> 01:25:23,373
And the dream came true.

1466
01:25:34,009 --> 01:25:36,887
We wrote Immortality for
the Saturday Night Fever musical

1467
01:25:37,095 --> 01:25:38,972
and they wanted one big song at the end,

1468
01:25:39,139 --> 01:25:43,018
so the guy could come out... do the whole thing.

1469
01:25:43,393 --> 01:25:44,770
There was a guy that sang it in the show,

1470
01:25:44,936 --> 01:25:47,648
but we wrote it with Céline totally in mind.

1471
01:26:02,954 --> 01:26:03,872
When we write for girls,

1472
01:26:04,039 --> 01:26:06,750
Barry sings it
in falsetto, because that's the girls' range,

1473
01:26:06,917 --> 01:26:08,210
so when they play the demo...

1474
01:26:08,377 --> 01:26:10,587
they can sing along and it'll be in their range.

1475
01:26:15,801 --> 01:26:17,761
When you hear the demo, you can hear Céline.

1476
01:26:18,679 --> 01:26:20,389
Then she said she wanted to record it.

1477
01:26:20,555 --> 01:26:21,973
Blew me away.

1478
01:26:28,397 --> 01:26:31,066
When we first heard Céline sing it,
we burst into tears.

1479
01:26:31,233 --> 01:26:33,819
- Tissues were going everywhere.
- It just destroyed us.

1480
01:26:34,319 --> 01:26:37,155
And that's how we left the building,
completely in tears,

1481
01:26:37,531 --> 01:26:39,533
that this girl had done this with this song.

1482
01:29:28,368 --> 01:29:30,412
I always keep a little Dictaphone next to the bed.

1483
01:29:30,579 --> 01:29:34,124
About four in the morning,
I woke up with this melody which was...

1484
01:29:41,590 --> 01:29:44,092
And that was it. I thought, "If I lose this..."

1485
01:29:46,261 --> 01:29:47,804
"It'll be gone forever," because...

1486
01:29:47,971 --> 01:29:50,181
the next day it's gone, it's just gone.

1487
01:29:50,348 --> 01:29:53,351
So I checked the machine,
there was no cassette in it.

1488
01:29:53,977 --> 01:29:54,769
It's always the same.

1489
01:29:55,145 --> 01:29:57,397
So I was running round the house
trying to find a cassette.

1490
01:29:57,856 --> 01:30:01,568
I found a cassette, got whatever I could down,

1491
01:30:01,818 --> 01:30:03,278
and played it to Robin the next day.

1492
01:30:16,124 --> 01:30:16,625
It was funny.

1493
01:30:16,791 --> 01:30:19,044
Unfortunately the record was never released here.

1494
01:30:19,210 --> 01:30:21,630
You Win Again, when it came out in 1987,

1495
01:30:21,796 --> 01:30:23,632
we'd just signed with Warners for a new deal

1496
01:30:23,798 --> 01:30:26,801
and this was the first record
and everybody went gung ho on it.

1497
01:30:26,968 --> 01:30:28,470
And really did well.

1498
01:30:28,803 --> 01:30:31,181
And I remember we had these stomps put on it.

1499
01:30:31,514 --> 01:30:33,808
It was something in my studio,
my garage that we'd come up with

1500
01:30:33,975 --> 01:30:36,978
and got it all together,
there's no drums on there at all,

1501
01:30:37,145 --> 01:30:39,189
it's all just sounds that we made.

1502
01:30:39,773 --> 01:30:42,108
And Arif was producing the album with us,

1503
01:30:42,275 --> 01:30:44,152
and he said,
"Great, when you come out to New York"

1504
01:30:44,319 --> 01:30:46,780
"we'll do You Win Again again."

1505
01:30:46,947 --> 01:30:49,449
'Cause we'd done the demo in my garage.

1506
01:30:49,616 --> 01:30:52,202
We got to New York and I'm thinking,

1507
01:30:52,327 --> 01:30:53,745
"They're gonna do the whole thing again."

1508
01:30:53,912 --> 01:30:55,956
"Where do we start?"

1509
01:30:56,247 --> 01:30:57,707
We had some programmers in there...

1510
01:30:57,874 --> 01:30:59,668
and he went, "Have you got the stomps?"

1511
01:30:59,834 --> 01:31:01,211
And I went, "No."

1512
01:31:01,461 --> 01:31:03,463
"I thought we were gonna do
the whole thing again."

1513
01:31:03,964 --> 01:31:04,798
"No, you've gotta get the stomps,"

1514
01:31:04,965 --> 01:31:06,007
"the stomps are what makes the record."

1515
01:31:06,174 --> 01:31:08,927
"The sound is part of the backtrack,"

1516
01:31:09,094 --> 01:31:10,011
"we've got to have that."

1517
01:31:10,178 --> 01:31:13,848
So I had to get them sampled on my drum
machine in Miami...

1518
01:31:14,015 --> 01:31:15,350
and the disc sent up...

1519
01:31:15,517 --> 01:31:17,686
We got it and then we embellished on it
a bit more in the studio

1520
01:31:17,852 --> 01:31:20,021
and everybody at the record company
wanted them off.

1521
01:31:21,648 --> 01:31:23,066
And we went, "No."

1522
01:31:23,733 --> 01:31:25,443
"Well, can you take them off the intro?"

1523
01:31:25,652 --> 01:31:26,528
"No."

1524
01:31:26,903 --> 01:31:28,405
"Can you turn them down a bit in the mix?"

1525
01:31:28,571 --> 01:31:29,447
"No."

1526
01:31:29,739 --> 01:31:31,241
"It's as it is, that's the record."

1527
01:31:31,700 --> 01:31:34,077
And they didn't like that.
They weren't too happy about that.

1528
01:31:34,411 --> 01:31:35,328
And now everyone says,

1529
01:31:35,495 --> 01:31:36,871
"As soon as that record starts on the radio,"

1530
01:31:37,038 --> 01:31:38,540
"you know it's the Bee Gees."

1531
01:31:38,832 --> 01:31:40,583
That was such a great signal.

1532
01:31:40,834 --> 01:31:42,711
It signaled to everybody that this song's coming.

1533
01:31:42,961 --> 01:31:44,838
It became Princess Diana's favorite song,

1534
01:31:45,005 --> 01:31:47,549
it was just amazing, the success that record had.

1535
01:31:48,008 --> 01:31:49,718
I knew I'd made it in the sampling

1536
01:31:49,884 --> 01:31:52,303
when Phil Collins
came up to me at the airport and said,

1537
01:31:52,470 --> 01:31:54,014
"Can you give me a copy of the stomps?"

1538
01:32:56,951 --> 01:32:58,328
I think the Bee Gee sound...

1539
01:32:59,412 --> 01:33:00,413
I don't know how to describe it.

1540
01:33:00,580 --> 01:33:01,790
I guess it's just a mixture.

1541
01:33:01,956 --> 01:33:02,791
It's us.

1542
01:33:02,957 --> 01:33:03,500
You've got to remember,

1543
01:33:03,666 --> 01:33:04,876
we come from an era where...

1544
01:33:05,043 --> 01:33:06,961
everybody was experimenting with sounds

1545
01:33:07,212 --> 01:33:09,923
and it was almost a rite of passage.

1546
01:33:14,886 --> 01:33:18,389
So it's a real mixed bag,
and I think we were very fortunate...

1547
01:33:18,556 --> 01:33:20,350
it wasn't just one lead singer.

1548
01:33:20,517 --> 01:33:21,893
We could all alternate,

1549
01:33:22,060 --> 01:33:24,145
and sometimes sing the same song together.

1550
01:33:24,354 --> 01:33:25,688
When we sing songs like...

1551
01:33:30,652 --> 01:33:31,945
It's Barry and Robin singing in unison.

1552
01:33:32,862 --> 01:33:33,905
But it sounds like one guy.

1553
01:33:34,072 --> 01:33:35,532
"Bit more Robin, bit more Barry.

1554
01:33:35,698 --> 01:33:36,866
Are you sure? Which one is it?"

1555
01:33:37,158 --> 01:33:39,452
But it's a sound of the two.

1556
01:33:39,994 --> 01:33:41,579
Then the three of us go into harmony on the...

1557
01:33:43,081 --> 01:33:43,832
And it's...

1558
01:33:45,959 --> 01:33:47,085
It's just Barry and Robin.

1559
01:33:47,544 --> 01:33:49,420
But they mesh together so well,

1560
01:33:49,671 --> 01:33:50,922
that it sounds like one voice.

1561
01:33:51,172 --> 01:33:53,466
But it's a different voice from them separately.

1562
01:33:53,925 --> 01:33:54,968
To us it was like the Beatles,

1563
01:33:55,135 --> 01:33:56,928
it was having that alternative lead

1564
01:33:57,262 --> 01:33:59,180
and being able to mix it up.

1565
01:34:19,075 --> 01:34:20,952
I think people today in the world of music

1566
01:34:21,119 --> 01:34:24,038
are far, far more conservative in what they do,

1567
01:34:24,205 --> 01:34:26,457
they don't use harmonies like they should,

1568
01:34:26,624 --> 01:34:29,043
it's because they're just too lazy.

1569
01:34:29,210 --> 01:34:31,504
It's hard work. Because there's no technology

1570
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:34,007
that can create a human voice in harmony.

1571
01:34:34,174 --> 01:34:36,634
Or even a machine that can create a melody.

1572
01:34:36,801 --> 01:34:37,969
You've got to do that yourself.

1573
01:34:38,136 --> 01:34:41,556
Those are the basic vehicles of all popular music.

1574
01:34:41,723 --> 01:34:43,558
That's what's gonna make music what it is...

1575
01:34:43,725 --> 01:34:44,350
and the songs what they are.

1576
01:34:44,517 --> 01:34:46,561
And there's still no technology for those,

1577
01:34:46,728 --> 01:34:47,562
and those are the principal ones,

1578
01:34:47,729 --> 01:34:48,771
and thank God there isn't.

1579
01:34:48,938 --> 01:34:51,232
That blend has been used quite a lot.

1580
01:34:51,399 --> 01:34:52,317
With harmonies,

1581
01:34:52,483 --> 01:34:54,986
we bank them underneath
with doubles and falsettos on top

1582
01:34:55,153 --> 01:34:56,905
so you get the full richness of the harmony,

1583
01:34:57,572 --> 01:34:58,740
which is what I love to do.

1584
01:34:58,907 --> 01:35:00,909
I love to arrange and get the records all...

1585
01:35:01,075 --> 01:35:02,243
this with that there and...

1586
01:35:02,452 --> 01:35:04,913
Paint the picture, you know, add the colors.

1587
01:35:06,164 --> 01:35:06,789
And they're like our children,

1588
01:35:06,956 --> 01:35:07,665
we send them out in the world,

1589
01:35:07,832 --> 01:35:08,917
we hope they do well.

1590
01:36:21,364 --> 01:36:22,907
I think people will always love songs...

1591
01:36:23,074 --> 01:36:25,535
about human relationships and melody.

1592
01:36:25,660 --> 01:36:28,788
These are the songs that will reach out
over the decades to the unborn.

1593
01:36:29,038 --> 01:36:31,124
Because they are perennial as the grass,

1594
01:36:31,291 --> 01:36:32,000
human emotion.

1595
01:36:32,166 --> 01:36:34,544
It is not ego that makes you write a great song,

1596
01:36:35,044 --> 01:36:37,880
it's the belief that you can't
that makes you do it.

1597
01:36:38,047 --> 01:36:39,632
Sometimes even envy and jealousy.

1598
01:36:39,799 --> 01:36:41,801
You hear a great song on the radio and think,

1599
01:36:41,968 --> 01:36:44,220
"I wish I could write a song like that."

1600
01:36:44,470 --> 01:36:46,681
I think you need things to motivate you,

1601
01:36:46,848 --> 01:36:49,851
but also there's that belief that you can as well.

1602
01:36:50,518 --> 01:36:52,478
- Damn the torpedoes.
- Yeah.

1603
01:36:53,021 --> 01:36:55,064
Robert said to us in 1967,

1604
01:36:55,231 --> 01:36:56,691
He said, "Write for 40 years from now,"

1605
01:36:56,858 --> 01:36:58,234
"don't just write for now."

1606
01:36:58,401 --> 01:37:00,320
I n other words, "Don't write for trends."

1607
01:37:00,486 --> 01:37:01,362
Which we tried not to do.

1608
01:37:01,571 --> 01:37:03,573
That's the one thing I remember him saying.

1609
01:37:03,990 --> 01:37:04,991
"Write for the future."

1610
01:37:28,389 --> 01:37:29,390
Every single award...

1611
01:37:29,599 --> 01:37:32,352
or every single citation or achievement

1612
01:37:32,518 --> 01:37:34,896
that's given to you has a different feel to it.

1613
01:37:35,229 --> 01:37:37,857
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
was to us everything.

1614
01:37:38,024 --> 01:37:39,484
Please stand and welcome...

1615
01:37:39,776 --> 01:37:42,612
Barry, Robin and Maurice Gibb
into the Hall of Fame.

1616
01:37:43,071 --> 01:37:44,197
The Bee Gees!

1617
01:37:50,745 --> 01:37:52,038
Being in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame...

1618
01:37:52,205 --> 01:37:54,123
was just a dream for us.

1619
01:37:54,290 --> 01:37:56,709
But not only getting inducted
into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,

1620
01:37:56,876 --> 01:37:58,544
but being inducted by Brian Wilson...

1621
01:37:58,753 --> 01:38:01,089
...to me was a knockout. That blew my night.

1622
01:38:01,589 --> 01:38:03,758
We are in fact the enigma with the stigma.

1623
01:38:04,050 --> 01:38:04,926
We know this.

1624
01:38:05,718 --> 01:38:06,636
We're aware of it.

1625
01:38:06,761 --> 01:38:08,262
We hear it every day.

1626
01:38:08,429 --> 01:38:09,639
We live with it.

1627
01:38:10,056 --> 01:38:11,015
We have suffered.

1628
01:38:11,265 --> 01:38:12,100
But tonight I think...

1629
01:38:12,266 --> 01:38:13,184
we've come home

1630
01:38:13,351 --> 01:38:15,269
and we thank you very much for this honor.

1631
01:38:15,978 --> 01:38:17,563
So, every single award you get

1632
01:38:17,730 --> 01:38:18,564
has a different kind of...

1633
01:38:18,731 --> 01:38:21,150
intense emotional experience for you.

1634
01:38:21,401 --> 01:38:22,402
The BRIT Awards, it's been a long time

1635
01:38:22,568 --> 01:38:24,404
since we've been even involved
in anything like that,

1636
01:38:24,862 --> 01:38:26,572
but to get the Lifetime Achievement Award...

1637
01:38:26,739 --> 01:38:27,698
was a wonderful honor.

1638
01:38:27,865 --> 01:38:30,034
Beautiful Quincy Jones giving us that award...

1639
01:38:30,201 --> 01:38:31,619
in the American Music Awards,

1640
01:38:32,245 --> 01:38:33,454
which was wonderful again.

1641
01:38:33,621 --> 01:38:35,373
Quincy I've known for a lot of years.

1642
01:38:35,623 --> 01:38:37,083
It's so sweet that he could do that.

1643
01:38:37,625 --> 01:38:41,796
Gentlemen,
let me just sum it up with this phrase...

1644
01:38:41,963 --> 01:38:43,464
on your International Award.

1645
01:38:44,048 --> 01:38:48,428
Their recordings have sold well over
100 million copies worldwide,

1646
01:38:49,262 --> 01:38:50,596
making them one...

1647
01:38:51,806 --> 01:38:55,143
making them one the top five
most successful artists ever.

1648
01:38:55,309 --> 01:38:55,935
Congratulations...

1649
01:38:56,102 --> 01:38:57,979
and good luck on your upcoming world tour.

1650
01:38:58,271 --> 01:39:00,690
- Barry!
- Thank you, Quincy!

1651
01:39:02,525 --> 01:39:03,484
How times change.

1652
01:39:03,693 --> 01:39:04,735
Ten, fifteen years ago...

1653
01:39:05,236 --> 01:39:06,821
you wouldn't have put on a Bee Gees record.

1654
01:39:06,988 --> 01:39:08,448
Now, it's sort of OK.

1655
01:40:22,021 --> 01:40:22,772
We stopped touring...

1656
01:40:22,939 --> 01:40:25,316
basically to concentrate
more on the writing and songs

1657
01:40:25,483 --> 01:40:27,693
and the work that was involved in that.

1658
01:40:27,902 --> 01:40:29,153
And if we did tour,

1659
01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:30,321
we wanted it to be special.

1660
01:40:30,488 --> 01:40:31,656
But we certainly didn't want to go out...

1661
01:40:31,822 --> 01:40:33,032
and do a nostalgia tour.

1662
01:40:33,324 --> 01:40:34,242
Just doing the old songs...

1663
01:40:34,408 --> 01:40:36,494
and saying, "Thank you very much. Cheers."

1664
01:40:37,119 --> 01:40:39,121
We wanted to at least have a good success...

1665
01:40:39,288 --> 01:40:40,790
under our belt before we go out again.

1666
01:40:44,418 --> 01:40:46,504
One Night Only was, only became a concept...

1667
01:40:46,671 --> 01:40:50,550
after we did the one show at the MGM.

1668
01:40:50,967 --> 01:40:52,593
It came about from back surgery.

1669
01:40:52,802 --> 01:40:55,721
Long-term, every-two-nights
or every-one-night tours

1670
01:40:55,888 --> 01:40:57,932
were no longer really feasible.

1671
01:40:59,267 --> 01:41:00,851
The pain was far too much for me,

1672
01:41:01,018 --> 01:41:03,271
my back has set into a place where,

1673
01:41:03,563 --> 01:41:04,897
if I did that every night,

1674
01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:08,150
nobody was going to insure us to do that.

1675
01:41:08,317 --> 01:41:11,654
And when you sing falsetto,
it's a hell of a high raise to go to,

1676
01:41:11,821 --> 01:41:13,823
that back needs... you need your back.

1677
01:41:14,073 --> 01:41:14,991
And it's agony when you do it,

1678
01:41:15,157 --> 01:41:19,078
'cause... you feel it before
you've even taken half a breath.

1679
01:41:19,245 --> 01:41:20,788
So, Barry was going through all that stuff.

1680
01:41:21,455 --> 01:41:22,498
I don't know how he did it...

1681
01:41:22,873 --> 01:41:24,166
but he didn't want to do a bad show.

1682
01:41:46,522 --> 01:41:48,399
So, we all made up our minds that

1683
01:41:48,566 --> 01:41:51,569
maybe it was a good idea
to do six shows worldwide

1684
01:41:51,777 --> 01:41:53,779
and put a price on each one of those shows,

1685
01:41:54,322 --> 01:41:58,367
and that way, people would travel
to places that we'd never been before.

1686
01:41:58,951 --> 01:42:00,578
And let my back settle.

1687
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:02,038
So we did one almost...

1688
01:42:02,204 --> 01:42:03,831
every two weeks, three weeks.

1689
01:42:14,634 --> 01:42:16,344
I've seen him do shows
when his back's been in agony.

1690
01:42:16,510 --> 01:42:18,095
I know 'cause I've had back surgery too,

1691
01:42:18,387 --> 01:42:19,805
and I know exactly what he went through.

1692
01:42:20,056 --> 01:42:23,351
And he's persevered through
a whole two-hour show in agony.

1693
01:42:23,768 --> 01:42:24,894
And nobody would have known it.

1694
01:42:25,394 --> 01:42:26,771
We knew it 'cause he'd be singing...

1695
01:42:26,937 --> 01:42:29,440
and he'd turn around and look at us and go...

1696
01:42:30,066 --> 01:42:32,693
Like this and go... And back out again.

1697
01:42:32,902 --> 01:42:34,320
But all the time in agony.

1698
01:44:29,685 --> 01:44:30,603
"This Is Where I Came In"

1699
01:44:30,770 --> 01:44:32,271
takes me back to our Beatle period.

1700
01:44:33,647 --> 01:44:34,732
We sort of went back to the way...

1701
01:44:34,899 --> 01:44:37,359
we recorded in the late '60s.

1702
01:44:40,279 --> 01:44:41,614
We sort of went back to that stage

1703
01:44:41,781 --> 01:44:42,823
where it's the acoustics,

1704
01:44:42,990 --> 01:44:45,868
the piano, the bass, the drums, whatever...

1705
01:44:46,243 --> 01:44:47,828
A lot of live drums on this album.

1706
01:44:47,995 --> 01:44:50,623
We wanted that live feel.
Particularly on the opening track.

1707
01:44:50,790 --> 01:44:52,082
We just wanted to rock a bit more.

1708
01:44:52,500 --> 01:44:53,834
But This Is Where I Came I n...

1709
01:44:54,001 --> 01:44:54,877
is the harmony thing.

1710
01:44:55,044 --> 01:44:56,170
We just wanted the three of us around...

1711
01:44:56,337 --> 01:44:57,922
one mic, singing the harmony on this song.

1712
01:44:58,214 --> 01:44:58,964
And that's what we did.

1713
01:44:59,131 --> 01:45:00,674
And that was two takes. The whole song.

1714
01:45:00,841 --> 01:45:02,343
The whole record. For the vocals.

1715
01:45:03,344 --> 01:45:05,304
"OK. That's finished. Next."

1716
01:45:05,721 --> 01:45:08,641
And it was like, "Whoa!
This is good stuff. This is great fun!"

1717
01:45:08,808 --> 01:45:10,559
We were recording just like we used to.

1718
01:45:36,877 --> 01:45:38,045
I loved it. I still do.

1719
01:45:38,212 --> 01:45:40,047
I don't like the long hours in the studio anymore

1720
01:45:40,214 --> 01:45:42,716
because there's so much going on outside

1721
01:45:43,092 --> 01:45:44,343
and I don't have the attention span.

1722
01:45:44,593 --> 01:45:47,388
If I can make a record in two days,

1723
01:45:47,555 --> 01:45:49,348
then I'll do that. I'll do it in two days.

1724
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:51,392
But I couldn't sit there for 12 hours a day...

1725
01:45:51,559 --> 01:45:53,561
for three months like we used to.

1726
01:45:53,936 --> 01:45:55,187
Not with five children.

1727
01:45:56,230 --> 01:45:57,356
Not reality anymore.

1728
01:45:57,523 --> 01:45:58,107
But I love it.

1729
01:45:58,232 --> 01:46:00,234
And I love the results of it.

1730
01:46:00,734 --> 01:46:01,986
When something sounds amazing...

1731
01:46:02,152 --> 01:46:03,362
and you don't know how you got there.

1732
01:46:17,001 --> 01:46:18,752
Yeah, we love that. We love that song.

1733
01:46:20,671 --> 01:46:25,676
It's... It's Maurice's turn now.
Brother Moe over here.

1734
01:46:29,263 --> 01:46:32,099
Maurice has done a lot more
individual music on this album.

1735
01:46:32,308 --> 01:46:34,059
It's really about himself, the song.

1736
01:46:34,435 --> 01:46:35,936
The song is called Man I n The Middle.

1737
01:46:36,145 --> 01:46:37,104
We hope you like it.

1738
01:47:15,935 --> 01:47:17,394
Yeah, I've sort of been the man in the middle.

1739
01:47:17,770 --> 01:47:20,856
It still comes from that business where
I've always been in the middle of things

1740
01:47:21,023 --> 01:47:21,857
between Barry and Robin...

1741
01:47:22,024 --> 01:47:22,858
At different times...

1742
01:47:23,025 --> 01:47:24,318
we've all been the man in the middle.

1743
01:47:24,485 --> 01:47:26,487
Robin and I hardly ever see eye-to-eye,

1744
01:47:26,654 --> 01:47:29,990
and yet, we gravitate towards
each other no matter what.

1745
01:47:30,157 --> 01:47:31,867
And Moe was always the sort of,

1746
01:47:32,034 --> 01:47:32,826
"Break it up, you guys."

1747
01:47:32,993 --> 01:47:33,994
"Don't argue."

1748
01:47:34,995 --> 01:47:37,998
Moe would always be that guy
that would take the middle ground

1749
01:47:38,207 --> 01:47:40,167
or calm things down if things got...

1750
01:47:41,335 --> 01:47:42,795
To that extent, yes, he was.

1751
01:47:43,253 --> 01:47:45,464
But I think over the years,
we've all done that.

1752
01:48:23,627 --> 01:48:25,754
Maurice Gibb, one third of the Bee Gees, has died,

1753
01:48:25,921 --> 01:48:26,880
age 53.

1754
01:48:27,131 --> 01:48:28,132
Here's Tamzin Sylvester...

1755
01:48:28,298 --> 01:48:29,717
with tonight's Liquid Lead.

1756
01:48:30,467 --> 01:48:32,302
Maurice collapsed at his beachfront house...

1757
01:48:32,469 --> 01:48:33,470
in Miami on Thursday

1758
01:48:33,637 --> 01:48:34,972
with severe stomach pains.

1759
01:48:35,180 --> 01:48:37,516
He was rushed to the nearby Mount Sinai hospital

1760
01:48:37,683 --> 01:48:40,227
but had a heart attack during emergency surgery.

1761
01:48:40,394 --> 01:48:42,730
His twin brother, Robin,
spoke to the media on Friday,

1762
01:48:42,896 --> 01:48:44,231
saying he was on the mend

1763
01:48:44,565 --> 01:48:46,275
but then Maurice slipped into a coma.

1764
01:48:46,483 --> 01:48:48,152
He died in the early hours of this morning

1765
01:48:48,318 --> 01:48:49,194
with his wife, children...

1766
01:48:49,361 --> 01:48:51,071
and brothers Gibb at his bedside.

1767
01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:54,283
It was shattering to both of us,
shattering to both of us

1768
01:48:54,450 --> 01:48:57,828
in countless ways, countless ways.

1769
01:48:58,245 --> 01:48:59,913
And the speed at which it happened as well.

1770
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:04,293
I mean, so unexpected because he was quite young,

1771
01:49:04,418 --> 01:49:05,502
and he'd never really been ill,

1772
01:49:05,669 --> 01:49:08,464
and it happened in such... in a matter of hours.

1773
01:49:08,630 --> 01:49:11,759
And it still... It's mind-blowing,

1774
01:49:11,925 --> 01:49:16,055
from a Wednesday night
to the Saturday when he died...

1775
01:49:16,930 --> 01:49:19,058
It's just like nothing could stop it.

1776
01:49:19,641 --> 01:49:25,314
And the idea of us going on without Moe
became something that was,

1777
01:49:26,607 --> 01:49:27,816
"Oh, we could do that."

1778
01:49:28,442 --> 01:49:29,485
"But no, we couldn't."

1779
01:49:30,277 --> 01:49:31,236
"Yes, we could."

1780
01:49:31,779 --> 01:49:32,196
"No, we couldn't."

1781
01:49:32,362 --> 01:49:33,655
Well, we were in shock.

1782
01:49:35,407 --> 01:49:36,241
Ladies and gentlemen,

1783
01:49:36,408 --> 01:49:39,787
please welcome the 2003 Legend Award recipients,

1784
01:49:40,120 --> 01:49:42,206
Barry and Robin Gibb.

1785
01:49:48,128 --> 01:49:51,590
The Legend in the 2003 Awards
was bittersweet in the Grammys

1786
01:49:51,757 --> 01:49:54,676
because it was... Maurice wasn't there.

1787
01:49:54,843 --> 01:49:58,097
And you've got to remember
that Maurice died on January 12th.

1788
01:49:58,263 --> 01:50:00,849
Well, this was, I think, sometime in January...

1789
01:50:01,016 --> 01:50:02,851
And his family were there.

1790
01:50:03,018 --> 01:50:07,356
And so it became more of
everybody really dwelling on Moe

1791
01:50:07,648 --> 01:50:08,774
and the sadness of it,

1792
01:50:08,941 --> 01:50:10,984
and the fact
that we'd lost him at such an early age.

1793
01:50:11,151 --> 01:50:13,153
And it was incredible to receive it,

1794
01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:15,197
but we were sort of numb, you know.

1795
01:50:15,656 --> 01:50:17,449
We'd just come to terms with the fact that,

1796
01:50:17,616 --> 01:50:18,784
"Maurice has just died."

1797
01:50:18,951 --> 01:50:21,161
We were talking about hours, days.

1798
01:50:21,620 --> 01:50:23,705
And so, it was... It came right in the middle.

1799
01:50:23,872 --> 01:50:27,668
Our equilibrium was completely out of whack,

1800
01:50:27,835 --> 01:50:29,586
and if it had been another time,

1801
01:50:29,753 --> 01:50:31,046
we would have enjoyed it more.

1802
01:50:31,380 --> 01:50:33,006
And if Moe had been there with us,

1803
01:50:33,173 --> 01:50:36,135
it would've been the cream on the cake, you know.

1804
01:50:36,301 --> 01:50:37,886
But the idea that he wasn't there to share it...

1805
01:50:38,053 --> 01:50:40,514
was equally important...

1806
01:50:40,681 --> 01:50:41,807
but in a very sad way.

1807
01:50:41,974 --> 01:50:43,475
Even the most ardent fans...

1808
01:50:43,642 --> 01:50:45,769
will always know a different Maurice than I do.

1809
01:50:45,936 --> 01:50:47,771
There's a personality and a whole history...

1810
01:50:47,938 --> 01:50:50,023
that I know about Maurice
that people will never know,

1811
01:50:50,190 --> 01:50:51,483
and that's the person I miss.

1812
01:50:51,650 --> 01:50:54,027
But I... The music is there...

1813
01:50:54,194 --> 01:50:56,280
He lives on with music, and on the radio,

1814
01:50:56,446 --> 01:50:57,489
when I hear a song with him,

1815
01:50:57,656 --> 01:50:59,199
that's... he's still alive.

1816
01:50:59,408 --> 01:51:03,162
- Robin and I love music so much...
- Yes.

1817
01:51:03,620 --> 01:51:05,998
...And it's so ingrained in our souls

1818
01:51:06,415 --> 01:51:09,793
that we don't know how to move away from it.

1819
01:51:10,043 --> 01:51:12,754
I think it's important,
also, for Maurice's memory,

1820
01:51:12,921 --> 01:51:15,174
his legacy, just as much.

1821
01:51:15,340 --> 01:51:16,258
The legacy of the Bee Gees...

1822
01:51:16,425 --> 01:51:18,760
must go on, one way or the other.

1823
01:51:40,032 --> 01:51:41,783
It's been a few years...

1824
01:51:41,950 --> 01:51:43,577
since we've heard our voices together.

1825
01:51:52,085 --> 01:51:53,045
Maurice's death...

1826
01:51:53,212 --> 01:51:55,756
left a kind of emotional vacuum
between the two of us

1827
01:51:55,923 --> 01:51:57,966
because Barry had a way of dealing with it,

1828
01:51:58,133 --> 01:51:59,426
I have my way of dealing with it.

1829
01:51:59,593 --> 01:52:01,511
A few years have passed now,

1830
01:52:01,720 --> 01:52:04,181
we're able to see each other in a different way.

1831
01:52:04,556 --> 01:52:06,516
We're beginning to behave the way we always did,

1832
01:52:06,934 --> 01:52:07,809
before Moe died.

1833
01:52:42,219 --> 01:52:43,637
Because of what happened with Maurice...

1834
01:52:44,054 --> 01:52:47,432
Barry had a way of expressing his way...

1835
01:52:48,392 --> 01:52:49,268
I was pulverized.

1836
01:52:49,434 --> 01:52:54,398
I had no passion or interest in continuing at all.

1837
01:52:54,898 --> 01:52:58,318
Robin went the opposite direction
and had to keep moving.

1838
01:52:58,485 --> 01:53:00,821
I wanted to keep the Bee Gees as the three of us.

1839
01:53:01,029 --> 01:53:04,825
I wanted that to be
the only thing anyone ever saw again.

1840
01:54:12,726 --> 01:54:14,394
We still have a lot of music in us,

1841
01:54:14,686 --> 01:54:17,356
because we've already written
one song together this week.

1842
01:54:17,522 --> 01:54:22,110
I now know inside that
what we will do will be good.

1843
01:54:23,070 --> 01:54:25,364
It's time for us now to move on...

1844
01:54:25,530 --> 01:54:27,115
without ever letting go of Moe.

1845
01:54:47,636 --> 01:54:50,347
The blend of the voices is great.
Even I get nostalgic.

1846
01:54:51,681 --> 01:54:54,017
I feel more every day as I go,

1847
01:54:54,267 --> 01:54:58,146
fortunate to be born into a family
where Barry is my brother

1848
01:54:58,772 --> 01:54:59,940
because I get to work with him.

1849
01:55:00,107 --> 01:55:02,150
I mean, one of the greatest pop writers...

1850
01:55:02,317 --> 01:55:03,610
of all time.

1851
01:55:03,777 --> 01:55:07,739
I mean, there's no...
I n all the billions of families...

1852
01:55:07,906 --> 01:55:08,824
that are born in the world,

1853
01:55:08,990 --> 01:55:10,951
I got to be born in the family with him.

1854
01:55:11,118 --> 01:55:13,912
How good can it get?

1855
01:55:14,413 --> 01:55:18,959
- I mean that's... that's real.
- Well, it gets... what it gets is mutual.

1856
01:55:19,543 --> 01:55:20,710
What it gets is mutual.

1857
01:55:21,253 --> 01:55:21,920
What you draw from me,

1858
01:55:22,087 --> 01:55:23,296
I draw from you.

1859
01:55:23,672 --> 01:55:28,343
And I look forward to the next time
that we can concoct something

1860
01:55:28,510 --> 01:55:32,013
that we both look at each other and say,
"There, that's it."

1861
01:55:32,180 --> 01:55:34,391
- That's all I care about.
- Me too.