1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:19,333 --> 00:00:21,124 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 4 00:00:21,166 --> 00:00:22,958 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 5 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,958 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:26,999 ♪ You like to move it ♪ 7 00:00:27,041 --> 00:00:28,958 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,833 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 9 00:00:30,875 --> 00:00:32,749 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 10 00:00:32,791 --> 00:00:34,749 ♪ You like to move it ♪ 11 00:00:34,791 --> 00:00:36,666 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 12 00:00:36,708 --> 00:00:38,624 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 13 00:00:38,666 --> 00:00:40,541 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 14 00:00:40,583 --> 00:00:42,458 ♪ You like to move it ♪ 15 00:00:42,500 --> 00:00:44,374 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 16 00:00:44,416 --> 00:00:46,333 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 17 00:00:46,375 --> 00:00:48,291 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 18 00:00:48,333 --> 00:00:50,333 ♪ You like to move it ♪ 19 00:00:50,375 --> 00:00:53,124 ♪ All girls all over the world ♪ 20 00:00:53,166 --> 00:00:56,458 ♪ Original Mad Stuntman upon your case, man ♪ 21 00:00:56,500 --> 00:00:59,833 ♪ I love how all girls are move them body ♪ 22 00:00:59,875 --> 00:01:02,124 ♪ And when you move your body ♪ 23 00:01:02,166 --> 00:01:05,166 ♪ Want to move it nice, and sweet, and sexy, all right ♪ 24 00:01:05,208 --> 00:01:07,041 ♪ Woman, you're cute and you don't need no makeup ♪ 25 00:01:07,083 --> 00:01:08,999 ♪ Original cute body, you are make man mud up ♪ 26 00:01:09,041 --> 00:01:10,999 ♪ Woman, you're cute and you don't need no makeup ♪ 27 00:01:11,041 --> 00:01:12,958 ♪ Original cute body, you are make man mud up ♪ 28 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,041 ♪ Woman, physically fit, physically fit ♪ 29 00:01:15,083 --> 00:01:16,791 ♪ Physically, physically, physically ♪ 30 00:01:16,833 --> 00:01:18,958 ♪ Woman, physically fit, physically fit ♪ 31 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,666 ♪ Physically, physically, physically ♪ 32 00:01:20,708 --> 00:01:22,874 ♪ Woman, you're nice, sweet, fantastic ♪ 33 00:01:22,916 --> 00:01:24,916 ♪ Big ship on the ocean, that a big Titanic ♪ 34 00:01:24,958 --> 00:01:26,749 ♪ Woman, you're nice, sweet, I enjoy the thing ♪ 35 00:01:26,791 --> 00:01:28,374 ♪ Big ship on the ocean, that a big Titanic ♪ 36 00:01:28,416 --> 00:01:30,666 ♪ Woman, you're nice, sweet, fantastic ♪ 37 00:01:30,708 --> 00:01:32,249 ♪ Big ship on the ocean, that's a big Titanic ♪ 38 00:01:32,291 --> 00:01:34,499 ♪ Woman, you're nice, sweet, I enjoy the thing ♪ 39 00:01:34,541 --> 00:01:36,666 ♪ Big ship on the ocean, that a big Titanic, woman ♪ 40 00:01:36,708 --> 00:01:38,708 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 41 00:01:38,750 --> 00:01:40,624 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 42 00:01:40,666 --> 00:01:42,583 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 43 00:01:42,625 --> 00:01:44,583 ♪ You like to move it ♪ 44 00:01:44,625 --> 00:01:46,499 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 45 00:01:46,541 --> 00:01:48,416 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 46 00:01:48,458 --> 00:01:50,374 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 47 00:01:50,416 --> 00:01:52,416 ♪ You like to move it ♪ 48 00:01:52,458 --> 00:02:00,458 (slow piano music) 49 00:02:12,583 --> 00:02:14,916 - Well, I was born in Trinidad. 50 00:02:17,958 --> 00:02:21,000 As much as I know the young age, I was born in Trinidad, 51 00:02:21,875 --> 00:02:24,666 I remember just wearing my short pants, 52 00:02:24,708 --> 00:02:26,874 wearing my short khaki pants, 53 00:02:26,916 --> 00:02:29,666 I remember when I was around seven, eight. 54 00:02:29,708 --> 00:02:36,499 (slow piano music) 55 00:02:36,541 --> 00:02:39,708 10 years old, being 10 years old now, 56 00:02:39,750 --> 00:02:42,875 we heard that we were going to America. 57 00:02:46,875 --> 00:02:47,791 You know, and the first place we moved 58 00:02:47,833 --> 00:02:50,083 to was Brooklyn, you know, and then 59 00:02:50,125 --> 00:02:53,374 from living on Park Place, my mother moved 60 00:02:53,416 --> 00:02:57,124 to Woodruff Avenue, that's still in Brooklyn, 61 00:02:57,166 --> 00:02:59,541 but more Flatbush side, you know, 62 00:02:59,583 --> 00:03:02,333 and then from Flatbush and Woodruff, 63 00:03:02,375 --> 00:03:04,624 we lived there for a couple more years, 64 00:03:04,666 --> 00:03:07,541 and then we moved to Lenox Road. 65 00:03:07,583 --> 00:03:12,291 (slow music) 66 00:03:15,083 --> 00:03:17,624 - At that time my mom was a home attendant, 67 00:03:17,666 --> 00:03:21,208 and she worked on Avenue M, in Ocean Avenue, 68 00:03:21,250 --> 00:03:22,999 so we were more or less like a sibling, 69 00:03:23,041 --> 00:03:24,458 taking care of sibling. 70 00:03:24,500 --> 00:03:28,166 - I remember dropping out of school, 71 00:03:29,375 --> 00:03:32,541 at age 16, you know, at that time, 72 00:03:32,583 --> 00:03:35,374 you know, I just started singing. 73 00:03:35,416 --> 00:03:37,749 I wanted to sing, I wanted to be famous, I said, 74 00:03:37,791 --> 00:03:40,499 "You know what," you know, that's how it all started. 75 00:03:40,541 --> 00:03:42,999 - But it was us three, being the youngest, 76 00:03:43,041 --> 00:03:44,458 we would sit back, you know, and sit 77 00:03:44,500 --> 00:03:47,999 in the living room, you know, and as being brothers, 78 00:03:48,041 --> 00:03:49,291 you know, you'll kick the breeze, 79 00:03:49,333 --> 00:03:51,708 "Oh, if I make it, you know, we'll do this, you know," 80 00:03:51,750 --> 00:03:54,749 or we'll look at each other and use each other as, 81 00:03:54,791 --> 00:03:57,333 you know, as (mumbles), you know, as a navigational tool 82 00:03:57,375 --> 00:03:59,041 to catapult the next one, you know, 83 00:03:59,083 --> 00:04:01,374 we were great minds men when we worked together. 84 00:04:01,416 --> 00:04:04,999 - I used to live on the same block as Stuntman, 85 00:04:05,041 --> 00:04:07,416 you know what I mean, I used to live, like, 86 00:04:07,458 --> 00:04:10,916 probably two buildings down from him. 87 00:04:10,958 --> 00:04:13,416 - [Interviewer] To the mad mob, you know what I'm saying, 88 00:04:13,458 --> 00:04:14,291 it's kind of peaceful today, like I said, 89 00:04:14,333 --> 00:04:18,208 today's a Tuesday, those just out here lounging, 90 00:04:18,250 --> 00:04:20,124 look like my man Steve-O, well, 91 00:04:20,166 --> 00:04:21,666 that's Steve-O's brother, that's Stuntman 92 00:04:21,708 --> 00:04:24,041 and Shadow, let's go say what's up to them, 93 00:04:24,083 --> 00:04:25,416 and see how they doing. 94 00:04:25,458 --> 00:04:27,374 Yo, Stuntman, what's up, man, (mumbles) what's up? 95 00:04:27,416 --> 00:04:28,208 - What's up, man? 96 00:04:28,250 --> 00:04:29,041 - [Interviewer] We're gonna get this place so big, 97 00:04:29,083 --> 00:04:30,499 this video, what's going on. 98 00:04:30,541 --> 00:04:33,749 - Yes, this is S-T-U-N-T-M-A-N, Stuntman... 99 00:04:33,791 --> 00:04:34,583 - [Interviewer] Best chanter in Flatbush, 100 00:04:34,625 --> 00:04:36,666 you know what I'm saying? 101 00:04:36,708 --> 00:04:40,416 - We used to bang on cars, bang on buckets, 102 00:04:40,458 --> 00:04:43,416 anything we'd get our hand on to make a beat, 103 00:04:43,458 --> 00:04:46,583 we would make a beat, and just start chanting freestyle, 104 00:04:46,625 --> 00:04:49,458 you know, and in order for me to, I used to listen 105 00:04:49,500 --> 00:04:51,041 to Shabba Ranks, the Ninjaman, 106 00:04:51,083 --> 00:04:53,999 and always used to repeat what they used to say, 107 00:04:54,041 --> 00:04:57,374 you know, in order to develop my own style. 108 00:04:57,416 --> 00:04:58,541 - [Interviewer] Kick it, Stuntman. 109 00:04:58,583 --> 00:04:59,374 ♪ And me say ♪ 110 00:04:59,416 --> 00:05:01,124 (imitates gun firing) 111 00:05:01,166 --> 00:05:03,708 ♪ What, say Stuntman has it me, come back again ♪ 112 00:05:03,750 --> 00:05:04,541 ♪ Come for me ♪ 113 00:05:04,583 --> 00:05:06,749 (imitates gun firing) 114 00:05:06,791 --> 00:05:08,916 ♪ What, say Stuntman has it me, come back again ♪ 115 00:05:08,958 --> 00:05:10,916 ♪ Say I'm a good boy, since (mumbles) America ♪ 116 00:05:10,958 --> 00:05:13,874 ♪ If you don't believe me, why don't you ask your mother ♪ 117 00:05:13,916 --> 00:05:17,083 Well, as time grew, I learned how 118 00:05:17,125 --> 00:05:21,083 to format myself for my lyrics by listening 119 00:05:21,125 --> 00:05:25,458 to the Jamaican artists sing their song, you know, 120 00:05:25,500 --> 00:05:26,833 and I said, you know what, I want 121 00:05:26,875 --> 00:05:29,666 to be able to speak like a Jamaican, 122 00:05:29,708 --> 00:05:32,541 in order to sing and song like a Jamaican, 123 00:05:32,583 --> 00:05:34,624 not to sound like a Trinidadian, 124 00:05:34,666 --> 00:05:37,291 because it's two different accents. 125 00:05:37,333 --> 00:05:39,208 - Yeah, yeah, yeah, 'cause, I mean, 126 00:05:39,250 --> 00:05:44,166 it was a community of nothing, but that energy going on, 127 00:05:44,208 --> 00:05:46,958 from reggae to (mumbles) to hip hop to R&B, 128 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,750 it's like the whole block, you know? 129 00:05:50,375 --> 00:05:58,375 (Mark chants) 130 00:05:58,958 --> 00:06:01,375 - When I moved to Lenox Road, 131 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,750 that's where I met Colin Powell. 132 00:06:07,875 --> 00:06:15,875 (Culture P chants) 133 00:06:18,750 --> 00:06:23,499 - First time we link up, we were in the 80’s, and we just 134 00:06:23,541 --> 00:06:25,500 he lived upstairs, me lived downstairs, 135 00:06:27,041 --> 00:06:29,499 come over and talk, get to know one another. 136 00:06:29,541 --> 00:06:32,708 - He is a good friend of mine, we go, 137 00:06:32,750 --> 00:06:37,124 he goes by his name, Culture P, that's his singing name. 138 00:06:37,166 --> 00:06:41,083 - You know? You know the rest and thing and we are go on, 139 00:06:41,125 --> 00:06:45,041 and come home, and go in 1-B apartment, 140 00:06:45,583 --> 00:06:47,791 we go DJ on a little set, 141 00:06:48,291 --> 00:06:49,750 I show him how to, 142 00:06:50,083 --> 00:06:53,583 Chant and say words in Jamaican language, and all those things. 143 00:06:54,041 --> 00:06:55,249 And yeah, he picked up 144 00:06:55,291 --> 00:06:58,166 and start doing his thing. - And we started singing, 145 00:06:58,208 --> 00:07:01,958 he had a little set called Pisces High Power, 146 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,333 Pisces High Power, because he's a Pisces, so, you know, 147 00:07:06,375 --> 00:07:08,541 when you have your little set, you want to call, 148 00:07:08,583 --> 00:07:10,916 give your set a name, you know, 149 00:07:10,958 --> 00:07:14,583 so he gave his set Pisces High Power. 150 00:07:14,625 --> 00:07:20,750 So on his set, we would be chanting over reggae songs. 151 00:07:21,208 --> 00:07:29,208 (Mark chants) 152 00:07:35,541 --> 00:07:37,749 We wasn’t really, able to get the instrumental 153 00:07:37,791 --> 00:07:39,749 of certain records we were rapping over, 154 00:07:39,791 --> 00:07:43,083 we'd always wait til they sing out they song, 155 00:07:43,125 --> 00:07:46,624 and then at the end you might get a little instrumental, 156 00:07:46,666 --> 00:07:48,916 if you get that instrumental, you would be so happy, 157 00:07:48,958 --> 00:07:50,666 but you got to pull the record back, 158 00:07:50,708 --> 00:07:53,000 reel it up, and just do what we gotta do. 159 00:07:53,250 --> 00:07:55,291 - And I wanted to show him, from there we came 160 00:07:55,333 --> 00:07:57,916 we came from Pisces High Power. 161 00:07:58,458 --> 00:08:01,083 This was his mother’s house, his mother would run us out the room, 162 00:08:01,125 --> 00:08:02,791 we would be locked up in there making a lot of noise 163 00:08:02,833 --> 00:08:03,916 And we showed him, 164 00:08:03,958 --> 00:08:06,250 how to deal with the Jamaican vibes, you know? 165 00:08:06,708 --> 00:08:10,999 And yeah, it was, pick up, pick up real quick, you know, 166 00:08:11,041 --> 00:08:13,749 and from there, he started to show so... 167 00:08:13,791 --> 00:08:15,624 Me the original man with Stuntman, 168 00:08:15,666 --> 00:08:17,916 you know? It's Culture and Stuntman, everywhere we'd go, 169 00:08:17,958 --> 00:08:19,791 it used to be Culture and Stuntman. 170 00:08:19,833 --> 00:08:21,541 Anywhere, Culture, Stuntman, Culture, Stuntman, 171 00:08:21,583 --> 00:08:23,291 Anywhere you see us it both of us. 172 00:08:23,333 --> 00:08:25,958 Straight through, all the time. You know? 173 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,416 - This is the location where everything happened here. 174 00:08:30,375 --> 00:08:31,916 This is the mayor of the block, 175 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,333 Culture P, the mayor of this block here, 176 00:08:36,375 --> 00:08:38,958 who running all the girls and them back then, 177 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,291 there'd be times, there's the man right there. 178 00:08:41,333 --> 00:08:44,291 - His first job, right by the corner there, 179 00:08:44,333 --> 00:08:46,749 where I used to hustle, he worked there 180 00:08:46,791 --> 00:08:49,124 for one week, and he was like, 181 00:08:49,166 --> 00:08:51,708 every day he'd come to work, he'd work with a pen. 182 00:08:51,750 --> 00:08:53,208 He'd say, "This is not me, you know", 183 00:08:53,250 --> 00:08:55,083 "you see, I'm a writer," and all he used 184 00:08:55,125 --> 00:08:58,624 to do is just write, he worked for one week, after that. 185 00:08:58,666 --> 00:09:03,083 - You know, back then, I got my first job in there, 186 00:09:03,125 --> 00:09:08,125 working for $50.00 a day, I remember, $45.00. 187 00:09:08,416 --> 00:09:09,291 - A night. 188 00:09:09,333 --> 00:09:11,333 - A night, the night job. - Night. 189 00:09:11,375 --> 00:09:12,958 - Inside of there, selling, well, 190 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,249 not actually selling anything, but working, and... 191 00:09:16,291 --> 00:09:17,083 - Security. 192 00:09:17,125 --> 00:09:19,041 - Bagging up onions, tomatoes, 193 00:09:19,083 --> 00:09:22,708 putting everything up together inside of that, I hated it. 194 00:09:22,750 --> 00:09:24,499 - Well, if he did it for one week, 195 00:09:24,541 --> 00:09:26,041 all he used to be doing is writing, 196 00:09:26,083 --> 00:09:30,208 he'd say, "This is not me, I'm a writer." 197 00:09:30,250 --> 00:09:32,124 You see, I gotta come out of here, 198 00:09:32,166 --> 00:09:36,166 and after that, after that, he was out. 199 00:09:36,208 --> 00:09:38,874 - I met El General through Rogelio, 200 00:09:38,916 --> 00:09:41,333 you know, and Rogelio, I mean, 201 00:09:41,375 --> 00:09:44,541 introduced me to The General, El General, 202 00:09:44,583 --> 00:09:49,583 that they would say El General, Panamanian reggae artist. 203 00:09:51,041 --> 00:09:54,875 (singing in foreign language) 204 00:10:09,583 --> 00:10:13,124 Me meeting him, he always knew to hisself 205 00:10:13,166 --> 00:10:16,708 that I was a good person, 206 00:10:16,750 --> 00:10:20,374 like singing, and always want it, I don't really know 207 00:10:20,416 --> 00:10:22,833 what he had in his mind, thinking, 208 00:10:22,875 --> 00:10:24,208 but when he came to me, and said, 209 00:10:24,250 --> 00:10:28,374 "I have, Stuntman, I have someone for you to call," 210 00:10:28,416 --> 00:10:31,124 you know, he told me that he wanted me 211 00:10:31,166 --> 00:10:33,291 to call a producer, a great producer, 212 00:10:33,333 --> 00:10:35,583 his name was Erick Morillo. 213 00:10:35,625 --> 00:10:37,958 - [Announcer] Are you ready? 214 00:10:39,958 --> 00:10:47,958 (slow ambient music) 215 00:10:57,708 --> 00:11:04,041 - [Announcer] Get ready for Erick Morillo. 216 00:11:04,083 --> 00:11:06,208 ♪ Erick Morillo's in the house ♪ 217 00:11:06,250 --> 00:11:07,249 ♪ Yeah, yeah ♪ 218 00:11:07,291 --> 00:11:08,249 ♪ Yeah ♪ 219 00:11:08,291 --> 00:11:10,749 ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ 220 00:11:10,791 --> 00:11:11,874 ♪ Yeah ♪ 221 00:11:11,916 --> 00:11:13,291 ♪ Yeah, yeah ♪ 222 00:11:13,916 --> 00:11:15,666 - I was actually, had produced a record 223 00:11:15,708 --> 00:11:17,958 for a gentleman called El General, 224 00:11:18,916 --> 00:11:21,333 Edgardo Franco, he became one of, 225 00:11:22,250 --> 00:11:23,541 the record that we did together was very, 226 00:11:23,583 --> 00:11:25,874 very big in the Latin reggae world. 227 00:11:25,916 --> 00:11:28,083 It's kind of what started reggaeton, 228 00:11:28,125 --> 00:11:29,791 but it wasn't reggaeton, it was like Latin reggae, 229 00:11:29,833 --> 00:11:33,083 it was very big, and he had taken me on tour with him, 230 00:11:34,125 --> 00:11:36,333 and I started producing house music at the time, 231 00:11:36,375 --> 00:11:38,583 and he was on my first record, 232 00:11:38,625 --> 00:11:40,749 which was the original Reel 2 Real record. 233 00:11:40,791 --> 00:11:45,583 It was called The Funky Buddha, and it had him on one side, 234 00:11:45,625 --> 00:11:48,916 had Marc Anthony, the salsa singer, on the B side. 235 00:11:48,958 --> 00:11:51,666 ♪ Buddha, that funky Buddha ♪ 236 00:11:51,708 --> 00:11:53,666 ♪ Boy, it nice, Buddha ♪ 237 00:11:53,708 --> 00:11:56,291 ♪ That funky Buddha, take a seat, old man ♪ 238 00:11:56,333 --> 00:11:57,166 - You know, Erick, at one point, 239 00:11:57,208 --> 00:11:59,791 was bringing me material, music, 240 00:11:59,833 --> 00:12:02,791 he was bringing me music, Erick Morillo, and, 241 00:12:02,833 --> 00:12:05,749 you know, there was just, I was kind of turning him down, 242 00:12:05,791 --> 00:12:07,791 in the beginning, because he was bringing me stuff 243 00:12:07,833 --> 00:12:12,666 that I didn't really want to sign, and then he finally came 244 00:12:12,708 --> 00:12:14,708 to the office, and gave me a demo. 245 00:12:14,750 --> 00:12:17,749 ♪ Buddha, that funky Buddha ♪ 246 00:12:17,791 --> 00:12:19,958 ♪ Role the (mumbles), Buddha ♪ 247 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,958 ♪ That funky Buddha, smoke it, man ♪ 248 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,083 - So I was just producing records, 249 00:12:24,125 --> 00:12:27,916 I was on the road, but as a sound tech for him, 250 00:12:27,958 --> 00:12:30,374 and just, you know, trying to make house music, 251 00:12:30,416 --> 00:12:31,333 that's really what it was. 252 00:12:31,375 --> 00:12:34,916 - He brought a cassette to me, and I checked it out, 253 00:12:34,958 --> 00:12:36,291 and I was look, whoa, this is a cool track, 254 00:12:36,333 --> 00:12:38,541 it was called Funky Buddha, 255 00:12:38,583 --> 00:12:43,083 and I gave him a three single deal. 256 00:12:43,125 --> 00:12:45,749 ♪ Buddha, that funky Buddha ♪ 257 00:12:45,791 --> 00:12:46,791 ♪ Boy, it nice ♪ 258 00:12:46,833 --> 00:12:49,458 ♪ Buddha, that funky Buddha ♪ 259 00:12:49,500 --> 00:12:50,791 ♪ Take that seat, old man ♪ 260 00:12:50,833 --> 00:12:53,166 And that's a song he did with El General, 261 00:12:53,208 --> 00:12:54,874 that's El General's voice, if you listen 262 00:12:54,916 --> 00:12:59,083 to it really well, that's El General's voice, so I came in, 263 00:13:01,458 --> 00:13:02,291 singing 264 00:13:03,583 --> 00:13:04,999 Funky Buddha. 265 00:13:05,041 --> 00:13:07,916 - Well, Funky Buddha, to be honest with you, 266 00:13:07,958 --> 00:13:12,541 gave Reel 2 Real their first start, 267 00:13:12,583 --> 00:13:15,291 so it was, to me, it was the seed that got planted, 268 00:13:15,333 --> 00:13:17,499 right, 'cause it was like, it got people's attention. 269 00:13:17,541 --> 00:13:22,541 - What had happened was that Edgardo was signed to RCA, 270 00:13:22,666 --> 00:13:24,083 and he's like, "Yo, I can't be doing these records" 271 00:13:24,125 --> 00:13:26,999 "for you, you know, even as aliases," 272 00:13:27,041 --> 00:13:28,499 "you know, my voice is very unique," 273 00:13:28,541 --> 00:13:29,458 "and people are gonna know," 274 00:13:29,500 --> 00:13:31,458 "and I don't want to get into trouble." 275 00:13:31,500 --> 00:13:33,458 He's like, "But I know this guy." 276 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:36,041 I'm like, you know, and, "He's a Trinidadian guy," 277 00:13:36,083 --> 00:13:37,333 "he can rap for you, he can do all" 278 00:13:37,375 --> 00:13:39,249 "that reggae stuff that you want." 279 00:13:39,291 --> 00:13:41,499 And that's how I met Mark Quashie. 280 00:13:41,541 --> 00:13:44,916 - "Stuntman, I got a number for you, loco, 281 00:13:44,958 --> 00:13:46,291 "you got to call this number," 282 00:13:46,333 --> 00:13:47,874 you know them Panamanians, how they talk, 283 00:13:47,916 --> 00:13:51,333 "You got to call this number now, loco," 284 00:13:51,375 --> 00:13:52,416 "and make sure you call him," 285 00:13:52,458 --> 00:13:54,458 "because he's waiting for your call." 286 00:13:54,500 --> 00:13:58,374 - Everything go by good for him, and he start, 287 00:13:58,416 --> 00:14:01,291 he meet a little man, put a tune together, 288 00:14:01,333 --> 00:14:04,583 “Move It” and then he rose up from there, so. 289 00:14:04,625 --> 00:14:07,833 - Next time, again, El General saw me, 290 00:14:07,875 --> 00:14:11,708 and he said, "Stuntman, did you call the man yet, loco?" 291 00:14:11,750 --> 00:14:13,083 I said, "No, I didn't call him." 292 00:14:13,125 --> 00:14:16,749 He said, "Call the man, loco, you got to call him." 293 00:14:16,791 --> 00:14:18,208 That's when I took it serious, 294 00:14:18,250 --> 00:14:20,666 and pick up the phone, and call Erick, 295 00:14:20,708 --> 00:14:22,583 I said, "Erick, this is Stuntman", 296 00:14:22,625 --> 00:14:25,249 "I was told by El General to give you a call." 297 00:14:25,291 --> 00:14:27,749 He was like, "Yeah, what are you doing tomorrow, 298 00:14:27,791 --> 00:14:30,166 "are you busy," I said, "No, not really." 299 00:14:30,208 --> 00:14:32,374 He said, "You know what, why don't you come" 300 00:14:32,416 --> 00:14:34,416 "to New Jersey and see me." 301 00:14:34,458 --> 00:14:36,416 - You know, he showed up to my house, 302 00:14:36,458 --> 00:14:39,916 I'll never forget, he had a red outfit on, 303 00:14:39,958 --> 00:14:41,416 one leg was shorter than the other, 304 00:14:41,458 --> 00:14:42,999 one arm was shorter than the other, 305 00:14:43,041 --> 00:14:46,583 had his braids on, and I just thought he was, 306 00:14:46,625 --> 00:14:48,999 like, you know, a character that was bigger than life. 307 00:14:49,041 --> 00:14:52,208 - Night times, day times, weekends taking the Jersey transit 308 00:14:52,250 --> 00:14:55,999 to Erick's house, six, seven hours at a time, 309 00:14:56,041 --> 00:14:57,791 taking the Jersey transit back, you know, 310 00:14:57,833 --> 00:14:59,083 this was a constant thing. 311 00:14:59,125 --> 00:15:01,583 - He had a small studio in his grandmother's basement, 312 00:15:01,625 --> 00:15:04,833 so, and as soon as I got there, 313 00:15:04,875 --> 00:15:06,499 I heard some dance music playing, 314 00:15:06,541 --> 00:15:08,249 some house music, see, I didn't know 315 00:15:08,291 --> 00:15:11,124 what the music was called, so now I know, 316 00:15:11,166 --> 00:15:14,791 I can tell you what it is, he had some house music playing, 317 00:15:14,833 --> 00:15:18,291 and I was like, "Man, I love this type" 318 00:15:18,333 --> 00:15:20,083 "of music right here, I always wanted" 319 00:15:20,125 --> 00:15:26,166 "to put some Jamaican type flow on this type of music." 320 00:15:26,208 --> 00:15:27,999 So he was like, "Really, why don't you go" 321 00:15:28,041 --> 00:15:30,541 "into the booth so we can hear you." 322 00:15:30,583 --> 00:15:32,374 - In Union City, New Jersey, where I was from, 323 00:15:32,416 --> 00:15:33,666 there's not a lot of Rastafarians, 324 00:15:33,708 --> 00:15:35,124 not a lot of reggae people, there's not a lot, 325 00:15:35,166 --> 00:15:36,666 you know, and now people kind of really like 326 00:15:36,708 --> 00:15:39,874 that whole vibe of the reggae, 327 00:15:39,916 --> 00:15:41,666 do chanting with the house, you know, 328 00:15:41,708 --> 00:15:44,249 so it was kind of like what was I gonna do? 329 00:15:44,291 --> 00:15:45,916 So I'm glad that he introduced me to him, 330 00:15:45,958 --> 00:15:47,583 and we just got to work, 331 00:15:47,625 --> 00:15:52,083 and the first record we did together was called ‘Go On Move’. 332 00:15:52,166 --> 00:15:58,166 (upbeat house music) 333 00:15:58,208 --> 00:16:03,208 ♪ Reel 2 Real ♪ 334 00:16:05,583 --> 00:16:07,583 ♪ Reel 2 Real ♪ 335 00:16:07,625 --> 00:16:09,291 ♪ Bibidy, bom bi bom, make house go mad ♪ 336 00:16:09,333 --> 00:16:11,166 ♪ Bibidy, bom bi bom, make jazz go mad ♪ 337 00:16:11,208 --> 00:16:13,083 ♪ Bibidy, bom bi bom, make house go mad ♪ 338 00:16:13,125 --> 00:16:14,874 ♪ Bibidy, bom bi bom, make jazz go mad ♪ 339 00:16:14,916 --> 00:16:16,999 ♪ Bibidy, bom bi bom, make house go mad ♪ 340 00:16:17,041 --> 00:16:18,833 ♪ Bibidy, bom bi bom, make jazz go mad ♪ 341 00:16:18,875 --> 00:16:20,916 ♪ Bibidy, bom bi bom, make house go mad ♪ 342 00:16:20,958 --> 00:16:23,208 ♪ Bibidy, bom bi bom, bibidy, bom di bom, bibidy ♪ 343 00:16:23,250 --> 00:16:24,666 ♪ Bibidy, bom bi bom, make house go mad ♪ 344 00:16:24,708 --> 00:16:26,499 ♪ Bibidy, bom bi bom, make jazz go mad ♪ 345 00:16:26,541 --> 00:16:28,416 ♪ Bibidy, bom bi bom, make house go mad ♪ 346 00:16:28,458 --> 00:16:30,374 ♪ Bibidy, bom bi bom, make jazz go mad ♪ 347 00:16:30,416 --> 00:16:32,249 ♪ Bibidy, bom bi bom, make house go mad ♪ 348 00:16:32,291 --> 00:16:34,166 ♪ Bibidy, bom bi bom, make jazz go mad ♪ 349 00:16:34,208 --> 00:16:36,208 ♪ Bibidy, bom bi bom, make house go mad ♪ 350 00:16:36,250 --> 00:16:40,416 ♪ Bibidy, bibidy, move, move, go on, move ♪ 351 00:16:40,458 --> 00:16:42,041 He had the, 352 00:16:43,833 --> 00:16:46,583 the track for Go On, Move. 353 00:16:47,625 --> 00:16:51,458 At the time, it was, I used to say, 354 00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:55,124 "Go on, move, make your body groove." 355 00:16:55,166 --> 00:16:57,499 ♪ Shake your body so the man can see, woman ♪ 356 00:16:57,541 --> 00:16:59,416 ♪ Shake, shake, shake your body ♪ 357 00:16:59,458 --> 00:17:00,999 ♪ Shake your body so the man can see, woman ♪ 358 00:17:01,041 --> 00:17:06,249 - And it was just a bassline that I had figured out 359 00:17:06,291 --> 00:17:08,749 with a gentleman called Peter Tullack, 360 00:17:08,791 --> 00:17:09,583 who is also from Brooklyn, 361 00:17:09,625 --> 00:17:10,791 that was like the Brooklyn connection. 362 00:17:10,833 --> 00:17:12,208 - So I just went into the booth, 363 00:17:12,250 --> 00:17:13,416 and just started doing my thing, 364 00:17:13,458 --> 00:17:15,874 and he would pick and choose what he'd want to use, 365 00:17:15,916 --> 00:17:18,749 so he said, "Try, 'go on, move, go on", 366 00:17:18,791 --> 00:17:22,124 "'move, make your body, make your body move, '" 367 00:17:22,166 --> 00:17:24,791 you know, so I was like, "Go on, move!" 368 00:17:24,833 --> 00:17:30,499 "Make your body groove, go on, move, to the funky groove." 369 00:17:30,541 --> 00:17:31,708 - Stuntman came to the studio, 370 00:17:31,750 --> 00:17:34,291 and we just, he just came in, knocked it out, 371 00:17:34,333 --> 00:17:36,874 and I delivered the record, and they loved it. 372 00:17:36,916 --> 00:17:40,999 - And that was the first, really the first record 373 00:17:41,041 --> 00:17:42,833 that I have recorded with Erick. 374 00:17:42,875 --> 00:17:45,249 That record, he signed me, you know, 375 00:17:45,291 --> 00:17:49,333 gave me $1,000.00 to, you know, sign 376 00:17:49,375 --> 00:17:51,874 with Double Platinum Productions, 377 00:17:51,916 --> 00:17:54,458 and also I was signed to Strictly Rhythm, 378 00:17:54,500 --> 00:17:56,541 the record company, you know. 379 00:17:56,583 --> 00:17:58,583 He had also take the music, and, 380 00:17:58,625 --> 00:18:00,333 you know, present it to Strictly. 381 00:18:00,375 --> 00:18:01,916 - And at first, like I said, you know, we did one record, 382 00:18:01,958 --> 00:18:03,499 and we didn't know what was gonna come of it, 383 00:18:03,541 --> 00:18:05,166 and it did well, but it was, you know, 384 00:18:05,208 --> 00:18:08,250 it was a club record, but it did very well. 385 00:18:09,458 --> 00:18:11,874 - Reel 2 Real with I Like To Move It. 386 00:18:11,916 --> 00:18:14,916 (crowd cheers) 387 00:18:14,958 --> 00:18:16,583 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 388 00:18:16,625 --> 00:18:18,499 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 389 00:18:18,541 --> 00:18:20,416 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 390 00:18:20,458 --> 00:18:22,416 ♪ You like to move it ♪ 391 00:18:22,458 --> 00:18:24,374 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 392 00:18:24,416 --> 00:18:26,249 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 393 00:18:26,291 --> 00:18:28,249 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 394 00:18:28,291 --> 00:18:30,208 ♪ You like to move it ♪ 395 00:18:30,250 --> 00:18:32,166 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 396 00:18:32,208 --> 00:18:34,124 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 397 00:18:34,166 --> 00:18:36,124 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 398 00:18:36,166 --> 00:18:38,083 ♪ You like to move it ♪ 399 00:18:38,125 --> 00:18:40,124 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 400 00:18:40,166 --> 00:18:41,999 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 401 00:18:42,041 --> 00:18:43,833 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 402 00:18:43,875 --> 00:18:45,708 ♪ You like to move it ♪ 403 00:18:45,750 --> 00:18:49,291 - And then, when it was time to make another record, 404 00:18:49,333 --> 00:18:51,874 I had this techno keyboard on it, 405 00:18:51,916 --> 00:18:56,249 and we were in the studio, and he, 406 00:18:56,291 --> 00:18:59,416 you know, which is funny, the record I did 407 00:18:59,458 --> 00:19:02,124 with El General is called Muevelo Muevelo, 408 00:19:02,166 --> 00:19:04,583 which in Spanish, translated to English, 409 00:19:04,625 --> 00:19:06,791 it's Move It, Move It, so I think that 410 00:19:06,833 --> 00:19:10,208 that's kind of where the idea came from to begin with, 411 00:19:10,250 --> 00:19:12,333 and then he just added all that other stuff. 412 00:19:12,375 --> 00:19:16,999 - Well, after that, we recorded I Like To Move It, 413 00:19:17,041 --> 00:19:21,208 after the Go On, Move, 'cause we were promoting Go on, Move, 414 00:19:21,250 --> 00:19:23,874 like different venues, and whatnot, 415 00:19:23,916 --> 00:19:26,666 and we were doing, you know, different places. 416 00:19:26,708 --> 00:19:31,333 And Erick came up with another track, 417 00:19:31,375 --> 00:19:35,624 which is the Move It track, but it wasn't the Move It yet, 418 00:19:35,666 --> 00:19:40,291 it was just a track, ooh, that track was wicked. 419 00:19:41,166 --> 00:19:42,874 I was like, Erick was like, "We gotta work" 420 00:19:42,916 --> 00:19:45,499 "on this track here, we gotta work on this song." 421 00:19:45,541 --> 00:19:48,208 - At first, it was just like, it was the verses, 422 00:19:48,250 --> 00:19:50,416 I didn't have a word, I didn't understand 423 00:19:50,458 --> 00:19:52,166 what he was saying, it was no idea 424 00:19:52,208 --> 00:19:53,708 what he was singing about, all, 425 00:19:53,750 --> 00:19:56,958 the only part that I got was, "You like to move it," 426 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:57,791 that's what we had at first. 427 00:19:57,833 --> 00:20:01,291 - Woman, you're cute, and you don't need no makeup. 428 00:20:03,291 --> 00:20:05,291 ♪ Woman, you're cute, and you don't need no makeup ♪ 429 00:20:05,333 --> 00:20:07,333 ♪ Original cute body, you make man mud up ♪ 430 00:20:07,375 --> 00:20:09,666 ♪ Woman, you're cute, and you don't need no makeup ♪ 431 00:20:09,708 --> 00:20:13,708 ♪ Original cute body, you will make man mud up. ♪ 432 00:20:13,750 --> 00:20:15,208 So I was like, explaining to Erick, 433 00:20:15,250 --> 00:20:18,666 "mud up" means crazy, make a man go crazy, 434 00:20:18,708 --> 00:20:21,458 when a man, like, see a woman with no makeup, 435 00:20:21,500 --> 00:20:24,666 he love that, so it make him go crazy, so I was like. 436 00:20:24,708 --> 00:20:27,958 ♪ Original cute body, you are make man mud up ♪ 437 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,666 He was like, "Just repeat it," you know, so I was like. 438 00:20:30,708 --> 00:20:32,083 ♪ Woman, you're cute ♪ 439 00:20:32,125 --> 00:20:34,583 Just use a different, you know, pitch tone. 440 00:20:34,625 --> 00:20:37,666 - And it was too short, and that's when, you know, 441 00:20:37,708 --> 00:20:40,249 we kind of agreed that we wanted to add something else, 442 00:20:40,291 --> 00:20:42,958 and that's where "I like to" came from, but it was really, 443 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,166 original was just "move it, move it." 444 00:20:45,208 --> 00:20:46,874 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 445 00:20:46,916 --> 00:20:48,624 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 446 00:20:48,666 --> 00:20:50,708 ♪ You like to move it ♪ 447 00:20:50,750 --> 00:20:52,583 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 448 00:20:52,625 --> 00:20:55,791 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 449 00:20:55,833 --> 00:20:59,208 - But the verses were just, what are you singing about? 450 00:20:59,250 --> 00:21:01,541 You know, it was just like, that record goes through all, 451 00:21:01,583 --> 00:21:03,208 but it's basically about a girl, 452 00:21:03,250 --> 00:21:05,666 you know, you know, put on your makeup, 453 00:21:05,708 --> 00:21:06,999 you know, all this stuff, you know, 454 00:21:07,041 --> 00:21:08,416 girls get ready, 'cause, you know, 455 00:21:08,458 --> 00:21:10,333 you're gonna move it that night kind of thing. 456 00:21:10,375 --> 00:21:13,124 - After awhile, after a couple of, 457 00:21:13,166 --> 00:21:17,624 a couple of, I would say, not minutes, 458 00:21:17,666 --> 00:21:22,375 maybe an hour or so, I started saying. 459 00:21:22,958 --> 00:21:25,374 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 460 00:21:25,416 --> 00:21:27,416 So he was like, "Keep repeating it over", 461 00:21:27,458 --> 00:21:29,291 "and just keep repeating it til, 462 00:21:29,333 --> 00:21:31,541 "you know, we get something," so I was like. 463 00:21:31,583 --> 00:21:33,499 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 464 00:21:33,541 --> 00:21:35,666 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 465 00:21:35,708 --> 00:21:37,458 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 466 00:21:37,500 --> 00:21:40,416 He was like, "Do it in your Cookie Monster voice," all that. 467 00:21:40,458 --> 00:21:42,416 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 468 00:21:42,458 --> 00:21:44,249 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 469 00:21:44,291 --> 00:21:46,958 - But it worked, you know, the tone of his voice, 470 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,124 with the keyboard, it just worked, 471 00:21:49,166 --> 00:21:52,333 and it was one of those records that I didn't know 472 00:21:52,375 --> 00:21:54,624 what was gonna come of it, I had no idea, 473 00:21:54,666 --> 00:21:57,583 it was weird, to say the least. 474 00:21:57,625 --> 00:21:59,874 - I mean, I stood in Erick's studio for the whole, 475 00:21:59,916 --> 00:22:02,666 whole day, whole night, you know, 476 00:22:02,708 --> 00:22:05,749 and after I recorded that, I went home. 477 00:22:05,791 --> 00:22:08,374 When I went home and came back to the studio the next day, 478 00:22:08,416 --> 00:22:09,666 when Erick called me and say, "Stuntman", 479 00:22:09,708 --> 00:22:12,166 "come to the studio, you need to hear this." 480 00:22:12,208 --> 00:22:13,333 When I came back to the studio, 481 00:22:13,375 --> 00:22:16,249 he played the song, oh, my god, 482 00:22:16,291 --> 00:22:18,999 I couldn't believe what he have done, 483 00:22:19,041 --> 00:22:21,874 it was like, it was good. 484 00:22:21,916 --> 00:22:23,249 - The first two records were just, like, 485 00:22:23,291 --> 00:22:26,458 a little hook, this was just a full on song, 486 00:22:26,500 --> 00:22:29,791 with choruses and verses, and it was, 487 00:22:29,833 --> 00:22:34,541 you know, it was out there, let's put it that way. 488 00:22:34,583 --> 00:22:36,583 I remember taking it to the label for the first time, 489 00:22:36,625 --> 00:22:39,083 and Gladys Pizarro, who was our A&R. 490 00:22:39,125 --> 00:22:42,166 - He gave me Funky Buddha, he gave me another track, 491 00:22:42,208 --> 00:22:44,458 and then the third one was the home run, 492 00:22:44,500 --> 00:22:45,833 which was ‘I Like To Move It’. 493 00:22:45,875 --> 00:22:47,541 - She was like, 494 00:22:49,541 --> 00:22:51,458 "It's cool," like, you know, 495 00:22:51,500 --> 00:22:53,624 'cause it was cool, but it was, you know, 496 00:22:53,666 --> 00:22:56,791 it was a little bit different than what anybody was used to. 497 00:22:56,833 --> 00:22:58,166 - Oh, my god, it was the, I mean, 498 00:22:58,208 --> 00:23:00,374 it was just, to me, it was an automatic, 499 00:23:00,416 --> 00:23:06,041 this is the kind of dream that any A&R person, dreams about, 500 00:23:06,083 --> 00:23:07,833 because it came through the door, 501 00:23:07,875 --> 00:23:09,124 that was just an automatic hit. 502 00:23:09,166 --> 00:23:10,416 I didn't have to go to the studio, 503 00:23:10,458 --> 00:23:12,583 I didn't have to do anything, this was something 504 00:23:12,625 --> 00:23:16,291 that Erick and Mad Stuntman did together. 505 00:23:16,333 --> 00:23:18,291 I wasn't, I was not involved, I mean, 506 00:23:18,333 --> 00:23:20,791 I was involved, because I signed the group, 507 00:23:20,833 --> 00:23:24,124 you know, because of the records that we did in the past, 508 00:23:24,166 --> 00:23:26,333 you understand, like the three single deals 509 00:23:26,375 --> 00:23:30,624 that we gave them, but this was the automatic. 510 00:23:30,666 --> 00:23:32,791 It just came in the door, and when I heard it, 511 00:23:32,833 --> 00:23:36,416 I loved it automatically, and like I said, 512 00:23:36,458 --> 00:23:37,499 I was like, this record's a hit. 513 00:23:37,541 --> 00:23:40,666 We finally got that tracks that, you know, 514 00:23:40,708 --> 00:23:42,333 from the needle in the haystack, 515 00:23:42,375 --> 00:23:47,083 this is the one, this is the one, and I was right. 516 00:23:47,125 --> 00:23:49,083 - A guy called Dave Lambert worked 517 00:23:49,125 --> 00:23:52,708 for me at Positiva, and he was really the guy who said, 518 00:23:52,750 --> 00:23:54,624 "Hey, you know what, Nick, there's really something" 519 00:23:54,666 --> 00:23:56,499 "in this I Like To Move It record," 520 00:23:56,541 --> 00:23:58,791 "and I think we should sign it." 521 00:23:58,833 --> 00:24:00,208 - But it wasn't til I Like To Move it that, 522 00:24:00,250 --> 00:24:01,791 and even with that record, I mean, 523 00:24:01,833 --> 00:24:04,416 there are parts of the story that even he doesn't know yet, 524 00:24:04,458 --> 00:24:06,749 but it kind of helped, I mean, you know, 525 00:24:06,791 --> 00:24:08,791 when we signed that record to EMI, 526 00:24:10,583 --> 00:24:12,041 EMI didn't want the record. 527 00:24:12,083 --> 00:24:14,499 And what happened was Little Louie Vega had a record 528 00:24:14,541 --> 00:24:17,124 with Barbara Tucker called Beautiful People, 529 00:24:17,166 --> 00:24:19,833 and they really wanted that record, so Mark Finkelstein, 530 00:24:19,875 --> 00:24:21,916 who was the owner of the label, said, 531 00:24:21,958 --> 00:24:24,541 "Okay, but I want you to take this record, too." 532 00:24:24,583 --> 00:24:26,916 And they're like, "Well, what do you mean?" 533 00:24:26,958 --> 00:24:29,874 "No, like, we don't, that's, we don't really hear it," 534 00:24:29,916 --> 00:24:30,874 you know, is what they were saying. 535 00:24:30,916 --> 00:24:33,041 - And I initially was a little bit, 536 00:24:33,083 --> 00:24:37,749 had a similar view, I think, to other record label bosses 537 00:24:37,791 --> 00:24:40,541 at the time, 'cause my initial thought was, 538 00:24:40,583 --> 00:24:42,541 it's got quite a gruff vocal on it, 539 00:24:42,583 --> 00:24:46,166 you know, and how much will that kind of, 540 00:24:46,208 --> 00:24:49,833 you know, sort of translate, and the record didn't fit 541 00:24:49,875 --> 00:24:52,458 into a particular genre pocket, obviously, 542 00:24:52,500 --> 00:24:55,291 'cause it wasn't just like a regular house record, 543 00:24:55,333 --> 00:24:58,791 or a regular kind of reggae record, or whatever, 544 00:24:58,833 --> 00:25:01,374 it was a bit of a mishmash of genres. 545 00:25:01,416 --> 00:25:02,624 - So Mark said, "Well, listen, I'll give it" 546 00:25:02,666 --> 00:25:05,624 "to you for no advance, just put the record out." 547 00:25:05,666 --> 00:25:07,749 "You know, it's doing really well here in the clubs," 548 00:25:07,791 --> 00:25:09,958 "you know, all the DJs are playing it here," 549 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,666 "and, you know, Erick's little my boy." 550 00:25:11,708 --> 00:25:12,833 You know, like 'cause me and Mark, 551 00:25:12,875 --> 00:25:14,624 you know, we both have a very good relationship, 552 00:25:14,666 --> 00:25:16,333 and, you know, "Just put it out." 553 00:25:16,375 --> 00:25:19,041 So he's like, "I'll make the deal so easy for you" 554 00:25:19,083 --> 00:25:21,124 "that, you know," so originally, 555 00:25:21,166 --> 00:25:24,083 they didn't even want the record, which is hilarious. 556 00:25:24,125 --> 00:25:25,249 But then what ended up happening is 557 00:25:25,291 --> 00:25:27,833 because of that, the deal that we made, 558 00:25:27,875 --> 00:25:30,999 they couldn't recoup videos, they couldn't recoup remixes, 559 00:25:31,041 --> 00:25:32,958 they couldn't recoup anything, all right? 560 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,208 It was one of those things where 561 00:25:34,250 --> 00:25:35,374 that's the way it kind of happened. 562 00:25:35,416 --> 00:25:37,749 - So I wasn't sure at first, but Dave, 563 00:25:37,791 --> 00:25:39,083 to his great credit, was like, 564 00:25:39,125 --> 00:25:41,583 "Oh, you know, there's something in this, Nick." 565 00:25:41,625 --> 00:25:43,958 And then we decided, yeah, you know what, 566 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,374 let's sign the record, let's give it a go. 567 00:25:46,416 --> 00:25:50,083 And fortunately, it was a very easy deal to do, 568 00:25:50,125 --> 00:25:53,999 because nobody else had offered to sign the record, 569 00:25:54,041 --> 00:25:56,791 so everybody else was kind of sitting on their hands, 570 00:25:56,833 --> 00:25:58,541 thinking, yeah, maybe, maybe not, 571 00:25:59,875 --> 00:26:04,624 and Strictly Rhythm had offered the record 572 00:26:04,666 --> 00:26:08,749 to all of the big kind of dance labels at the time, 573 00:26:08,791 --> 00:26:11,041 and they'd all passed, and then we stuck our hand up, 574 00:26:11,083 --> 00:26:12,708 and said, "We're kind of a newish label", 575 00:26:12,750 --> 00:26:15,124 "we know you, Mark, and we're Positiva," 576 00:26:15,166 --> 00:26:16,583 "and we'd like to sign the record." 577 00:26:16,625 --> 00:26:19,333 And he was like, "Great," and, "Let's give it a go." 578 00:26:19,375 --> 00:26:21,916 - So it was kind of, it was very, very interesting, 579 00:26:21,958 --> 00:26:23,374 how it all kind of came about. 580 00:26:23,416 --> 00:26:26,749 - We did a very simple, easy, quick deal 581 00:26:26,791 --> 00:26:33,208 for multiple territories without much financial risk at all 582 00:26:33,250 --> 00:26:36,666 on our part, and said, "Hey, let's give this thing a go." 583 00:26:36,708 --> 00:26:39,541 - So when the record did finally start 584 00:26:39,583 --> 00:26:42,499 to show legs, they were running around, going, 585 00:26:42,541 --> 00:26:44,624 "Okay, we want a video, like yesterday, 586 00:26:44,666 --> 00:26:47,166 "we want, you know, we need an album," like, what? 587 00:26:47,208 --> 00:26:50,083 And it just all kind of happened like that. (snaps fingers) 588 00:26:50,125 --> 00:26:52,374 ♪ Woman, I like to move it, move it ♪ 589 00:26:52,416 --> 00:26:54,374 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 590 00:26:54,416 --> 00:26:56,333 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 591 00:26:56,375 --> 00:26:58,249 ♪ You like to move it ♪ 592 00:26:58,291 --> 00:27:00,291 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 593 00:27:00,333 --> 00:27:02,166 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 594 00:27:02,208 --> 00:27:04,083 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 595 00:27:04,125 --> 00:27:05,958 ♪ You like to move it ♪ 596 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,083 - I met the pair of them at the same time, 597 00:27:08,125 --> 00:27:12,291 so I was working at this nightclub called Expo, 598 00:27:12,333 --> 00:27:15,499 and they were performing, and I was the door bitch, 599 00:27:15,541 --> 00:27:18,166 but I was also in charge of all the dancers, 600 00:27:18,208 --> 00:27:20,999 so I did all the choreography in the nightclub. 601 00:27:21,041 --> 00:27:23,208 ♪ Woman, you're cute, and you don't need no makeup ♪ 602 00:27:23,250 --> 00:27:24,999 ♪ Original cute body, you are make man mud up ♪ 603 00:27:25,041 --> 00:27:26,916 ♪ Woman, you're cute, and you don't need no makeup ♪ 604 00:27:26,958 --> 00:27:29,666 - And I just got up on stage, and I started dancing, 605 00:27:29,708 --> 00:27:31,833 and I just did my thing, I just kind 606 00:27:31,875 --> 00:27:35,499 of took over the whole show, and I went up to Stuntman, 607 00:27:35,541 --> 00:27:37,416 and I started dancing with him. 608 00:27:37,458 --> 00:27:41,874 - Lissette Maldanado, AKA Baby, we loved her, 609 00:27:41,916 --> 00:27:46,124 she was the first dancer to ever dance for Reel 2 Real. 610 00:27:46,166 --> 00:27:48,083 - So I did a handstand, and I wrapped my legs 611 00:27:48,125 --> 00:27:50,333 around Stuntman, and I started doing, 612 00:27:50,375 --> 00:27:53,041 like, the krump really quick, and then when I finished, 613 00:27:53,083 --> 00:27:55,416 everybody started clapping, and then Erick told me, 614 00:27:55,458 --> 00:27:56,791 he's like, "We're gonna get rid of them", 615 00:27:56,833 --> 00:27:59,041 "do you want to be his dancer?" 616 00:27:59,083 --> 00:28:00,416 And I was like, "Yeah, why not?" 617 00:28:00,458 --> 00:28:03,791 - Baby were crazy, Baby was, like, ah, 618 00:28:03,833 --> 00:28:06,416 so beautiful, nice, long, black hair, 619 00:28:06,458 --> 00:28:09,999 Spanish, she was like, full energy, 620 00:28:10,041 --> 00:28:14,499 she on point, and she would always give her best. 621 00:28:14,541 --> 00:28:17,124 - One night, I was working at Limelight, 622 00:28:17,166 --> 00:28:21,124 and it so happened that Reel 2 Real came to perform. 623 00:28:21,166 --> 00:28:27,083 So I had finished my set, and then they got on stage, 624 00:28:27,125 --> 00:28:30,208 so as soon as they, back then we used to dance in cages, 625 00:28:30,250 --> 00:28:32,333 so as soon as they brought the cage down, 626 00:28:32,375 --> 00:28:35,083 I stood to the side, and I watched a performance, 627 00:28:35,125 --> 00:28:37,916 and I really liked his song, you know, 628 00:28:37,958 --> 00:28:40,041 like I really, like, I was like, okay, 629 00:28:40,083 --> 00:28:42,499 I'm feeling it, you know, and then his voice, 630 00:28:42,541 --> 00:28:43,916 it just all tied in together, and then 631 00:28:43,958 --> 00:28:46,374 when I saw the dancer, Baby, Lisette, 632 00:28:46,416 --> 00:28:48,833 the other dancer, I was like, "My god, she's so beautiful." 633 00:28:48,875 --> 00:28:50,541 - And I just liked her, I liked her, 634 00:28:50,583 --> 00:28:52,583 and she wasn't sure if she was bi, 635 00:28:52,625 --> 00:28:55,458 if she was straight, but I, again, 636 00:28:55,500 --> 00:28:58,374 I loved that that was my aim in life, 637 00:28:58,416 --> 00:28:59,916 I didn't like girls who were already gay, 638 00:28:59,958 --> 00:29:01,874 I liked girls who were straight, 639 00:29:01,916 --> 00:29:03,249 and I was just kind of turn 'em out, 640 00:29:03,291 --> 00:29:06,791 turn 'em out, turn 'em out, and we became an item. 641 00:29:06,833 --> 00:29:11,416 - But yeah, she hit on me, and that's how she got me to, 642 00:29:11,458 --> 00:29:12,458 you know, she was like, "I like you" 643 00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:13,499 "and everything, I think you're really cool," 644 00:29:13,541 --> 00:29:15,041 "and I think you're really pretty," 645 00:29:15,083 --> 00:29:16,916 she's like, "I want to get to know you better." 646 00:29:16,958 --> 00:29:18,249 And I was like, "Okay," you know, 647 00:29:18,291 --> 00:29:21,499 and we were young, and I was all for it, so. 648 00:29:21,541 --> 00:29:23,999 - Oh, she was gorgeous, she was gorgeous, 649 00:29:24,041 --> 00:29:26,374 I remember, she, to me, she still is, 650 00:29:26,416 --> 00:29:30,833 but this is what I mean, this is why I worked, 651 00:29:30,875 --> 00:29:32,416 I was just nutty, I didn't care for the guys, 652 00:29:32,458 --> 00:29:35,958 I was just crazy about girls, and Alice was just stunning. 653 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,083 - She goes, "Oh, my god, I have a really great idea," 654 00:29:38,125 --> 00:29:38,958 and I was like, "What's up?" 655 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,249 And she's like, "Would you like to be part of our group?" 656 00:29:41,291 --> 00:29:43,333 And I was like, "Really," and she's like, "Yeah," 657 00:29:43,375 --> 00:29:45,874 and I said, "Oh, my god, of course, like, why not?" 658 00:29:45,916 --> 00:29:47,833 She's like, "We're about to get ready to do the", 659 00:29:47,875 --> 00:29:50,041 "to shoot the video for the song that you just heard." 660 00:29:50,083 --> 00:29:52,624 And I was like, "Okay," so we exchanged numbers, 661 00:29:52,666 --> 00:29:53,833 and she's like, "I'll give you a call." 662 00:29:53,875 --> 00:29:55,874 And the next day, she's calling me, like, 663 00:29:55,916 --> 00:29:56,874 "When can you meet up with us," like, 664 00:29:56,916 --> 00:29:58,749 you know, "I want you to meet the manager", 665 00:29:58,791 --> 00:30:00,541 "and I want you to meet the singer, Stuntman." 666 00:30:00,583 --> 00:30:02,499 And I was like, "Yeah, sure, no problem." 667 00:30:02,541 --> 00:30:04,749 So I met up with them, and next thing you know, 668 00:30:04,791 --> 00:30:07,166 like, they were like, "Okay, you're in the group." 669 00:30:07,208 --> 00:30:08,333 - You know, we kind of had a group 670 00:30:08,375 --> 00:30:11,708 that the label wanted the dancers 671 00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:13,208 that were used for the I Like To Move It 672 00:30:13,250 --> 00:30:15,749 to be part of the group, because it was, 673 00:30:15,791 --> 00:30:17,499 what they liked about it, it was kind of the first time, 674 00:30:17,541 --> 00:30:19,374 like, those booty shorts were used, 675 00:30:19,416 --> 00:30:22,333 and it was, it took England by storm, 676 00:30:22,375 --> 00:30:24,833 because, you know, they'd never a Puerto Rican ass, 677 00:30:24,875 --> 00:30:27,041 you know, on the TV like that. 678 00:30:27,083 --> 00:30:29,374 - Yes, because when we said 679 00:30:29,416 --> 00:30:32,291 that the dancers would be just dancers, 680 00:30:32,333 --> 00:30:34,791 you know, you have an act, and you just hired dancers 681 00:30:34,833 --> 00:30:38,166 to be dancers, you know, and they were dancing so perfectly, 682 00:30:38,208 --> 00:30:40,499 they wanted them to be part of the group. 683 00:30:40,541 --> 00:30:43,874 So it's like The Mad Stuntman, Erick, the producer, 684 00:30:43,916 --> 00:30:47,166 and two dancers, so that's where, 685 00:30:47,208 --> 00:30:49,999 you know, Reel 2 Real featuring The Mad Stuntman. 686 00:30:50,041 --> 00:30:51,666 - Yeah, like I said, it was different, 687 00:30:51,708 --> 00:30:53,833 'cause it was the first time they did it, 688 00:30:53,875 --> 00:30:58,249 you know, they'd never had dancers, a dancer, 689 00:30:58,291 --> 00:31:00,958 I should say, as a member, you know? 690 00:31:01,833 --> 00:31:06,666 And I guess from an A&R man's perspective, 691 00:31:06,708 --> 00:31:09,624 you know, he wanted different, you know, and he saw that. 692 00:31:09,666 --> 00:31:10,749 - So they became part of the group, 693 00:31:10,791 --> 00:31:15,166 so Reel 2 Real became Stuntman, myself, and the two girls. 694 00:31:15,208 --> 00:31:17,874 - Erick, because, 695 00:31:17,916 --> 00:31:21,166 for the simple fact the dancers were just dancers, 696 00:31:21,208 --> 00:31:24,166 not to be part of the group, you understand, 697 00:31:24,208 --> 00:31:26,874 Reel 2 Real featuring The Mad Stuntman, 698 00:31:26,916 --> 00:31:31,583 then we would get dancers to dance, you understand? 699 00:31:31,625 --> 00:31:32,708 They are not part of the group, 700 00:31:32,750 --> 00:31:35,291 they are not in a contract, you know, 701 00:31:35,333 --> 00:31:38,124 so obviously they're not supposed to be there, 702 00:31:38,166 --> 00:31:43,166 you know, until when the fans start seeing us, 703 00:31:43,416 --> 00:31:47,124 they started saying, "They're a group," 704 00:31:47,166 --> 00:31:51,708 because Erick always wanted them to be Reel 2 Real, 705 00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:54,124 featuring The Mad Stuntman, 706 00:31:54,166 --> 00:31:57,791 but everyone start calling us Reel 2 Real, you understand? 707 00:31:57,833 --> 00:31:59,916 They would be like, "Where's the other part of the group?" 708 00:31:59,958 --> 00:32:02,249 "It's not just Erick, it's not just Stuntman," 709 00:32:02,291 --> 00:32:03,708 "where's the two dancers?" 710 00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:06,208 So they labeled us as a group, 711 00:32:06,250 --> 00:32:09,499 so because they label us as a group, 712 00:32:09,541 --> 00:32:12,291 we had no other choice but to just leave it like that. 713 00:32:12,333 --> 00:32:13,416 - But it was really the label, 714 00:32:13,458 --> 00:32:14,333 I didn't want the girls to be a part of it, 715 00:32:14,375 --> 00:32:15,416 I just thought they were just dancers, 716 00:32:15,458 --> 00:32:17,083 why should they be a part of the group? 717 00:32:17,125 --> 00:32:18,333 They actually added something to it, 718 00:32:18,375 --> 00:32:20,624 so I'm glad that I worked out the way that it did. 719 00:32:20,666 --> 00:32:27,750 - It worked, it worked, it worked for me. (laughs) 720 00:32:32,416 --> 00:32:35,624 Well, when it was time to shoot a video, 721 00:32:35,666 --> 00:32:37,958 everything went through Erick, 722 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,458 and it went through Strictly Rhythm. 723 00:32:39,500 --> 00:32:42,374 So Erick, Strictly Rhythm, they were, 724 00:32:42,416 --> 00:32:45,416 you know, the business behind the videos, 725 00:32:45,458 --> 00:32:47,958 and everything, so they have us to, 726 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,749 you know, do what they do, and all I had was 727 00:32:50,791 --> 00:32:54,041 to make sure that I was there to shoot the video. 728 00:32:54,083 --> 00:32:56,791 - It was, like, it was below zero here, 729 00:32:56,833 --> 00:32:58,583 and he was wearing that outfit. 730 00:32:58,625 --> 00:33:01,666 And, you know, we shot in Times Square, 731 00:33:01,708 --> 00:33:03,583 middle of the day, somewhere in Brooklyn, 732 00:33:03,625 --> 00:33:05,624 like, underneath the bridge, and it was all ice, 733 00:33:05,666 --> 00:33:07,916 so he had to be careful of what he was doing. 734 00:33:07,958 --> 00:33:09,208 We were in the club that night, 735 00:33:09,250 --> 00:33:10,541 that they loaned us a club, Shooter's, 736 00:33:10,583 --> 00:33:12,916 in Hoboken, New Jersey, they didn't turn 737 00:33:12,958 --> 00:33:14,249 on the heat for us, there was no heat, 738 00:33:14,291 --> 00:33:15,833 because in a club, they don't have heat, 739 00:33:15,875 --> 00:33:18,416 they have air conditioning, because once it gets full, 740 00:33:18,458 --> 00:33:20,416 it warms up, so there's no such thing as heat. 741 00:33:20,458 --> 00:33:23,041 So we are dying, so everything they say, "Cut," 742 00:33:23,083 --> 00:33:24,708 they bring in jackets, and, I mean, 743 00:33:24,750 --> 00:33:28,083 it was miserable, but you would never tell, 744 00:33:28,125 --> 00:33:30,833 when you would see the video, that everybody, 745 00:33:30,875 --> 00:33:33,374 and I mean everybody, was freezing their balls off. 746 00:33:33,416 --> 00:33:37,249 And he was such a pro, you know, he didn't care. 747 00:33:37,291 --> 00:33:40,374 - And it was so cold, it was like 20 below, 748 00:33:40,416 --> 00:33:43,458 shooting that video, I had my long pants, 749 00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:48,458 one short up, one down, my sleeve was up, and down, 750 00:33:48,500 --> 00:33:51,541 and I had some small glasses, like this, 751 00:33:51,583 --> 00:33:54,833 but smaller, and you would be looking at me like this. 752 00:33:54,875 --> 00:33:58,249 - He was just happy that things were happening, 753 00:33:58,291 --> 00:34:00,999 and, you know, he was just always humble, 754 00:34:01,041 --> 00:34:06,208 always there, whenever you needed him, he was a star. 755 00:34:06,250 --> 00:34:08,083 - When we met up to do the video, 756 00:34:08,125 --> 00:34:10,291 it was really cold, it was such a cold day, 757 00:34:10,333 --> 00:34:12,583 and it was like, it was snow outside, 758 00:34:12,625 --> 00:34:14,541 and it was slushy, 'cause it was kind of misty 759 00:34:14,583 --> 00:34:16,999 and rainy, and they're telling us, 760 00:34:17,041 --> 00:34:18,708 "Okay, well, we're gonna, you know," 761 00:34:18,750 --> 00:34:20,749 "we're gonna film some outside," 762 00:34:20,791 --> 00:34:23,291 "and then we're gonna go to Jersey," 763 00:34:23,333 --> 00:34:25,083 "and we're gonna film, like, in a club." 764 00:34:25,125 --> 00:34:27,999 - Yes, especially, we had to repeat it, and repeat it. 765 00:34:28,041 --> 00:34:30,124 I remember thinking, 'cause I think back then, 766 00:34:30,166 --> 00:34:32,208 they wore the pilot jackets, those leather pilot, 767 00:34:32,250 --> 00:34:34,999 they were in fashion, and I just thought, 768 00:34:35,041 --> 00:34:37,541 that's the perfect excuse to buy one, 769 00:34:37,583 --> 00:34:39,291 and make the record company pay for it. 770 00:34:39,333 --> 00:34:41,083 I was like, "No, it's cold, it's cold", 771 00:34:41,125 --> 00:34:43,083 "I've been wanting this jacket anyways." 772 00:34:43,125 --> 00:34:44,374 And we had to wear these, you know, 773 00:34:44,416 --> 00:34:46,374 we had to dress up, and look good, 774 00:34:46,416 --> 00:34:48,958 and bring our own stuff, 'cause nothing was paid for, 775 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,666 so we just had to dig in our own closets, 776 00:34:50,708 --> 00:34:53,166 use our own costumes, use our, everything we had. 777 00:34:53,208 --> 00:34:55,916 - The girl with the white shorts in the video who were, 778 00:34:55,958 --> 00:34:59,958 everyone were like, paying attention to her, 779 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,374 her booty, they were, like, watching her booty moving around 780 00:35:04,416 --> 00:35:09,374 in circles, and then licking them. Then licking... lick (laughs) 781 00:35:09,416 --> 00:35:12,833 - The booty girl, right, that's what I've heard, 782 00:35:12,875 --> 00:35:14,208 that's actually what I've heard, 783 00:35:14,250 --> 00:35:16,458 like, I've had friends that have traveled 784 00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:19,499 to the UK, and throughout Europe, 785 00:35:19,541 --> 00:35:21,791 and they've called me, like, "Oh, my god", 786 00:35:21,833 --> 00:35:23,291 "you have to understand something, like, 787 00:35:23,333 --> 00:35:25,249 "you're famous out here, you have to come out here 788 00:35:25,291 --> 00:35:26,333 "and meet all these people, like, 789 00:35:26,375 --> 00:35:28,874 "they're always asking about you," Lisette told me, 790 00:35:28,916 --> 00:35:31,624 and Stuntman, whenever they would go somewhere, 791 00:35:31,666 --> 00:35:33,583 like, even when they went to the MTV Awards, 792 00:35:33,625 --> 00:35:34,958 they were asking them, like, "Where's the girl" 793 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,083 "with the white shorts, where's the girl" 794 00:35:36,125 --> 00:35:37,583 "in the black and white stripes," 795 00:35:37,625 --> 00:35:40,249 and they're like, "She's not here, she's not here." 796 00:35:40,291 --> 00:35:43,916 - Alice, Alice had everyone, 797 00:35:43,958 --> 00:35:47,124 I think she and Baby made that, 798 00:35:47,166 --> 00:35:51,458 made that video, like, guys liked to see, 799 00:35:51,500 --> 00:35:56,041 you know, sexy girls in a video, and obviously, 800 00:35:57,041 --> 00:36:00,416 me, too, you know, and definitely Erick, definitely, 801 00:36:00,458 --> 00:36:05,333 but Alice was like, oh, my god, Alice had that video. 802 00:36:05,375 --> 00:36:07,374 Guys just wanted to watch that video 803 00:36:07,416 --> 00:36:10,458 because of Alice's booty, you know? 804 00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:11,916 - Everybody knows the little scene 805 00:36:11,958 --> 00:36:13,708 that they focused on her on, you know, 806 00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:15,458 her cute little butt cheeks hanging out, 807 00:36:15,500 --> 00:36:17,499 'cause she had that perfect little bottom, 808 00:36:17,541 --> 00:36:19,083 you know, and her mouth, you know, 809 00:36:19,125 --> 00:36:22,791 it was just that perfect, yeah. 810 00:36:22,833 --> 00:36:26,041 - My only request was, if I'm gonna shoot the video, 811 00:36:26,083 --> 00:36:27,916 I have to shoot it where I grew up, 812 00:36:29,916 --> 00:36:32,374 I have to shoot part of the video where I grew up, 813 00:36:32,416 --> 00:36:34,124 and then we were all over Manhattan, 814 00:36:34,166 --> 00:36:36,333 and then we shot the video on Lenox Road. 815 00:36:36,375 --> 00:36:37,124 - Yeah... 816 00:36:37,166 --> 00:36:42,124 - Yeah, his building was famous in the video, you know, 817 00:36:42,166 --> 00:36:44,791 I did part of the video right here, 818 00:36:44,833 --> 00:36:48,291 Alton McQueen, you know, a bunch of us was even outside 819 00:36:48,333 --> 00:36:50,874 when we were shooting part of the video here, 820 00:36:50,916 --> 00:36:52,208 you know, so when you look at the video, 821 00:36:52,250 --> 00:36:54,333 you'll see, actually, this building, 822 00:36:54,375 --> 00:36:56,749 you know, in the Move It video. 823 00:36:56,791 --> 00:36:59,999 We shot part of the video in a cornered Spanish restaurant. 824 00:37:00,041 --> 00:37:02,374 Well, right now, we're standing by the restaurant 825 00:37:02,416 --> 00:37:04,833 that I did my video, I Like To Move It, Move It, 826 00:37:04,875 --> 00:37:07,041 and did a part of the video at this, 827 00:37:07,083 --> 00:37:09,083 actually at this restaurant right here, 828 00:37:09,125 --> 00:37:11,958 and it was a different name back then, 829 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,249 but right now, it's a different name now, 830 00:37:14,291 --> 00:37:16,666 but it's the same, you know, type of restaurant. 831 00:37:16,708 --> 00:37:20,583 It was very important for our first video, you know. 832 00:37:20,625 --> 00:37:23,333 - It was big video, you know, yeah. 833 00:37:23,375 --> 00:37:27,833 - Yeah, really didn't know the video would, 834 00:37:27,875 --> 00:37:30,833 you know, did that well, with the song would have did 835 00:37:30,875 --> 00:37:34,958 that well, but I wanted to, to make sure 836 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,124 that this block was a part of anything 837 00:37:38,166 --> 00:37:40,500 that I was doing musically, you know? 838 00:37:43,916 --> 00:37:45,583 ♪ Woman, you're cute, and you don't need no makeup ♪ 839 00:37:45,625 --> 00:37:47,624 ♪ Original cute body, you are make man mud up ♪ 840 00:37:47,666 --> 00:37:49,541 ♪ Woman, you're cute, and you don't need no makeup ♪ 841 00:37:49,583 --> 00:37:51,749 ♪ Original cute body, you are make man mud up ♪ 842 00:37:51,791 --> 00:37:53,249 It was in the song, I'm singing. 843 00:37:53,291 --> 00:37:55,916 ♪ Woman, you're cute, and you didn't need no makeup ♪ 844 00:37:55,958 --> 00:37:58,083 ♪ Eyeliner upon your face, that make man mud up ♪ 845 00:37:58,125 --> 00:38:02,166 We definitely wanted to play that out of the song, 846 00:38:02,208 --> 00:38:04,583 so sitting there, in the restaurant, 847 00:38:04,625 --> 00:38:07,083 I'm explaining to her, what she's wearing, 848 00:38:07,125 --> 00:38:10,958 so other people probably thinking I'm saying something other 849 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,458 than what I'm saying, but I was telling her. 850 00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:15,833 ♪ Eyeliner upon your face, that make man mud up ♪ 851 00:38:15,875 --> 00:38:17,833 ♪ Nose powder upon your face, that make man mud up ♪ 852 00:38:17,875 --> 00:38:19,749 ♪ Pluck ya eyebrow on your face, that make man mud up ♪ 853 00:38:19,791 --> 00:38:20,916 ♪ Got your lipstick upon your face ♪ 854 00:38:20,958 --> 00:38:21,749 ♪ That make man mud up ♪ 855 00:38:21,791 --> 00:38:24,249 ♪ Nose powder upon your face, that make man mud up ♪ 856 00:38:24,291 --> 00:38:25,999 ♪ Pluck your eyebrow upon your face, that make ♪ 857 00:38:26,041 --> 00:38:26,833 But I would say. 858 00:38:26,875 --> 00:38:28,208 ♪ Pluck your eyebrow upon your face ♪ 859 00:38:28,250 --> 00:38:29,041 ♪ That make man mud up ♪ 860 00:38:29,083 --> 00:38:29,874 You know. 861 00:38:29,916 --> 00:38:30,708 ♪ Eyeliner ♪ 862 00:38:30,750 --> 00:38:32,999 Most people didn't really catch what I was saying. 863 00:38:33,041 --> 00:38:33,833 ♪ Eyeliner ♪ 864 00:38:33,875 --> 00:38:34,958 Maybe some people think it's. 865 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,166 ♪ Ai ai ai ♪ 866 00:38:36,208 --> 00:38:39,500 You know, so I have a cousin, I have a cousin 867 00:38:39,583 --> 00:38:41,791 where he would, like, 868 00:38:43,750 --> 00:38:47,124 "Cuz, um, what is it you saying" 869 00:38:47,166 --> 00:38:50,124 "in that song, what is 'ai ai ai'?" 870 00:38:50,166 --> 00:38:52,958 I'm like, "I didn't say no 'ai ai ai" in no song. 871 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,916 ♪ Eyeliner upon your face, that make man mud up ♪ 872 00:38:54,958 --> 00:38:56,666 ♪ Nose powder upon your face, that make man mud up ♪ 873 00:38:56,708 --> 00:38:57,499 "What are you talking about?" 874 00:38:57,541 --> 00:38:59,583 He's like, "Yeah, it's in I Like To Move It." 875 00:38:59,625 --> 00:39:00,833 I'm like, "Let me go back and listen" 876 00:39:00,875 --> 00:39:03,083 "to what he's talking about," and I played the song, 877 00:39:03,125 --> 00:39:06,083 and when that part come up, "eyeliner," 878 00:39:06,125 --> 00:39:07,999 I said, "Oh, my god." 879 00:39:08,041 --> 00:39:11,458 So that's what people is hearing, "ai ai ai." 880 00:39:11,500 --> 00:39:13,291 I was wearing his chain, you know, 881 00:39:13,333 --> 00:39:15,083 looking good and thing, you know, 882 00:39:15,125 --> 00:39:17,083 the big chain, not this chain right here, 883 00:39:17,125 --> 00:39:20,666 the big gold chain right now, we did it right there. 884 00:39:21,416 --> 00:39:23,874 It was fun, it was a fun video for me, 885 00:39:23,916 --> 00:39:27,416 I was excited, I was happy, and I just wanted 886 00:39:27,458 --> 00:39:30,333 to, you know, show the world that, 887 00:39:30,375 --> 00:39:32,958 I wanted to just show the world, 888 00:39:36,458 --> 00:39:37,291 let's move it. 889 00:39:38,833 --> 00:39:46,833 (slow ambient music) 890 00:39:50,083 --> 00:39:52,416 - You know, at the time, when the video finally came out, 891 00:39:52,458 --> 00:39:55,708 I was no longer in the group, and I already had my son, 892 00:39:55,750 --> 00:39:57,249 like, I was, I think I was pregnant, 893 00:39:57,291 --> 00:39:59,208 as a matter of fact, when the video finally, 894 00:39:59,250 --> 00:40:01,083 like, came out, and was released, 895 00:40:01,125 --> 00:40:02,749 so it was just, like, sitting back 896 00:40:02,791 --> 00:40:04,624 and watching myself on the video, 897 00:40:04,666 --> 00:40:07,333 like, oh, my god, you know, like here I am, 898 00:40:07,375 --> 00:40:10,083 all big and pregnant, and there I was, all tiny, you know? 899 00:40:10,125 --> 00:40:13,583 So it was just kind of like an out of body experience, 900 00:40:13,625 --> 00:40:16,833 and to know that I was famous in Europe, 901 00:40:16,875 --> 00:40:18,708 like, wow, you know? 902 00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:20,874 - And unfortunately, the reason she didn't stay 903 00:40:20,916 --> 00:40:22,541 in the band was because we were supposed 904 00:40:22,583 --> 00:40:25,500 to go to Canada, and she didn't have a passport, 905 00:40:26,458 --> 00:40:27,749 so that one little error 906 00:40:27,791 --> 00:40:31,999 of her not having a passport just left me alone. 907 00:40:32,041 --> 00:40:35,291 - You know, Erick is a great person, 908 00:40:35,333 --> 00:40:38,541 you know, and as far as business, 909 00:40:38,583 --> 00:40:40,708 I think he's a wonderful businessman, 910 00:40:41,833 --> 00:40:44,833 but his ethics with me were a little out the window, 911 00:40:44,875 --> 00:40:49,124 you know, like, I just felt like he was a little jealous, 912 00:40:49,166 --> 00:40:51,958 you know, maybe he felt like I was gonna steal Baby away 913 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,208 from him, 'cause he kind of had a thing for her, 914 00:40:54,250 --> 00:40:59,041 and I just felt like he didn't want me around, 915 00:40:59,083 --> 00:41:00,958 you know, 'cause she felt comfortable with me, 916 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,458 she felt safe with me, and with him, 917 00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:05,874 she just kind of felt standoffish, 918 00:41:05,916 --> 00:41:08,208 in the sense that she knew that he liked her, 919 00:41:08,250 --> 00:41:10,708 you know, he wanted her to be the center of attention. 920 00:41:10,750 --> 00:41:12,583 And when she wasn't getting that center 921 00:41:12,625 --> 00:41:14,416 of attention, it kind of annoyed him, 922 00:41:14,458 --> 00:41:16,541 you know, it kind of, like, bothered him. 923 00:41:16,583 --> 00:41:18,124 You know, like, why are you paying attention to her? 924 00:41:18,166 --> 00:41:20,624 She's the star, like, she's the main dancer, 925 00:41:20,666 --> 00:41:23,833 you know, and I didn't seek that attention, 926 00:41:23,875 --> 00:41:25,791 it just, I guess it came naturally, 927 00:41:25,833 --> 00:41:28,458 and, you know, it hit the way it did. 928 00:41:30,458 --> 00:41:33,416 - I didn't like guys, and he was always, 929 00:41:33,458 --> 00:41:35,833 he was always trying, always trying, 930 00:41:35,875 --> 00:41:40,083 which is probably why I left the band, you know? 931 00:41:40,125 --> 00:41:43,583 He was so fed up with me never giving in. 932 00:41:43,625 --> 00:41:47,083 - Then what happened was we were gonna travel to Canada, and 933 00:41:48,666 --> 00:41:50,374 I think my mom kind 934 00:41:50,416 --> 00:41:53,166 of sabotaged it a little bit, and my parents are gone now, 935 00:41:53,208 --> 00:41:56,874 so may my mother rest in peace, but she was so cute. 936 00:41:56,916 --> 00:41:57,916 They were Jehovah's Witness, 937 00:41:57,958 --> 00:42:00,541 and I don't think my mother wanted me to be in a group, 938 00:42:00,583 --> 00:42:03,166 or to travel, you know, to do any of that, 939 00:42:03,208 --> 00:42:05,333 'cause, you know, when it comes to Jehovah's Witness, 940 00:42:05,375 --> 00:42:07,374 that's really not accepted. 941 00:42:07,416 --> 00:42:10,624 So I'm looking for my passport, 942 00:42:10,666 --> 00:42:13,624 and I remember, like, putting it in my drawer, 943 00:42:13,666 --> 00:42:14,999 you know, and having it there, 944 00:42:15,041 --> 00:42:17,541 and next thing I know, I'm like, 945 00:42:17,583 --> 00:42:19,791 "My passport's gone," and I'm like, "Mom, where is it?" 946 00:42:19,833 --> 00:42:21,791 I turned my room upside down, 947 00:42:21,833 --> 00:42:23,499 I pretty much turned the house upside down, 948 00:42:23,541 --> 00:42:25,249 and I could not find it. 949 00:42:25,291 --> 00:42:28,583 So I still packed up my stuff, and I went to the airport, 950 00:42:28,625 --> 00:42:31,624 when we got to the airport, we asked, 951 00:42:31,666 --> 00:42:33,416 you know, what would happen if I traveled 952 00:42:33,458 --> 00:42:35,916 to Canada without my passport, 953 00:42:35,958 --> 00:42:37,416 but if I had my birth certificate? 954 00:42:37,458 --> 00:42:39,958 And they were like, "Look, we can let you go," 955 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,624 "but there's no guarantee that they'll allow you" 956 00:42:41,666 --> 00:42:44,833 "to come back to the United States, so there's a possibility" 957 00:42:44,875 --> 00:42:46,333 "that you could get stuck out there." 958 00:42:46,375 --> 00:42:49,083 And Erick was annoyed, so he was like, 959 00:42:49,125 --> 00:42:51,749 "Well, you know, if you can't find your passport," 960 00:42:51,791 --> 00:42:53,416 "and you can't go to Canada, then that's it," 961 00:42:53,458 --> 00:42:54,791 "you're out of the group." 962 00:42:54,833 --> 00:42:57,833 So when they told us what they told us, 963 00:42:57,875 --> 00:43:00,666 you know, Lisette was like, "Come on, just come", 964 00:43:00,708 --> 00:43:02,374 "you know, we'll get you back," you know, 965 00:43:02,416 --> 00:43:05,124 and I was like, "Yeah, but what if I can't come back?" 966 00:43:05,166 --> 00:43:06,333 "You know, I'm gonna be stuck in Canada," 967 00:43:06,375 --> 00:43:08,166 "and I don't know nobody out there," 968 00:43:08,208 --> 00:43:10,916 and she's like, "True," so they sent me home 969 00:43:10,958 --> 00:43:12,708 in a limo, and that was that, like, 970 00:43:12,750 --> 00:43:15,833 I never got to see them again, you know? 971 00:43:15,875 --> 00:43:17,458 And it broke my heart. 972 00:43:17,500 --> 00:43:20,499 - Well, to my knowledge, I didn't really know 973 00:43:20,541 --> 00:43:24,083 what went on with Baby and Alice, 974 00:43:24,125 --> 00:43:26,249 you know, Erick were making the decisions 975 00:43:26,291 --> 00:43:30,208 of who could have went, and who couldn't go anywhere, 976 00:43:30,250 --> 00:43:33,083 you know, he want to make sure that, 977 00:43:33,125 --> 00:43:35,749 if you're traveling, you gotta be straight. 978 00:43:35,791 --> 00:43:38,916 First of all, if you don't have a passport to travel, 979 00:43:38,958 --> 00:43:42,583 you can't go, and the way everything was moving so fast 980 00:43:42,625 --> 00:43:45,999 and so quickly, he had to make quick decisions, 981 00:43:46,041 --> 00:43:48,708 that most I can say about him, you know, 982 00:43:48,750 --> 00:43:52,374 but other things that went on in the background, 983 00:43:52,416 --> 00:43:53,874 I have no knowledge of. 984 00:43:53,916 --> 00:43:56,458 - That was the last time I had seen Mark and Erick, 985 00:43:58,125 --> 00:43:59,666 and it was tough, you know, 'cause I was like, 986 00:43:59,708 --> 00:44:02,166 wow, you know, like, I was part of something big, 987 00:44:02,208 --> 00:44:04,374 and I lost, I missed my chance, you know? 988 00:44:04,416 --> 00:44:08,041 I remained friends with Lisette for a long time after that, 989 00:44:09,291 --> 00:44:11,291 and we hung out, you know, as much as we could, 990 00:44:11,333 --> 00:44:13,624 but she was busy, you know, she was traveling 991 00:44:13,666 --> 00:44:15,958 with them still, and when she went to Europe, 992 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,708 and she found out, like, the record, 993 00:44:18,750 --> 00:44:21,041 you know, went platinum, and hit number one, 994 00:44:21,083 --> 00:44:23,541 and I was like, you know, I'm happy for us, 995 00:44:23,583 --> 00:44:26,458 like, we did it, you know, we made it happen, 996 00:44:26,500 --> 00:44:27,708 we made it happen for Stuntman, 997 00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:29,874 because I feel like, because of us, 998 00:44:29,916 --> 00:44:32,791 you know, the dancers, I mean, not just us, 999 00:44:32,833 --> 00:44:35,083 but his music is great, but we added to it, 1000 00:44:35,125 --> 00:44:38,583 you know, we added to the pizazz and the charisma. 1001 00:44:38,625 --> 00:44:44,374 (slow piano music) 1002 00:44:44,416 --> 00:44:46,125 - When I Like To Move It, 1003 00:44:48,375 --> 00:44:50,874 when Erick and I got the news of, 1004 00:44:50,916 --> 00:44:55,500 we have to travel to England to do 22 shows, 1005 00:44:58,708 --> 00:44:59,875 I was, like, 1006 00:45:00,833 --> 00:45:01,666 happy, 1007 00:45:03,500 --> 00:45:05,666 to even hear the song playing 1008 00:45:05,708 --> 00:45:09,041 on the radio, I was like, oh, my god, 1009 00:45:09,083 --> 00:45:11,874 I just run, like, to tell all my family 1010 00:45:11,916 --> 00:45:15,166 and friends, "My song is on the radio!" 1011 00:45:15,208 --> 00:45:18,041 "You guys got to listen to my song, it's on the radio." 1012 00:45:18,083 --> 00:45:19,833 - Next thing you know, we hear. 1013 00:45:19,875 --> 00:45:21,208 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 1014 00:45:21,250 --> 00:45:24,583 On the radio, you know, not knowing who that was, 1015 00:45:24,625 --> 00:45:26,999 we just heard the song, you know, 1016 00:45:27,041 --> 00:45:32,166 and just fell in love with the song instantly, 1017 00:45:32,208 --> 00:45:34,499 until we find out, say, "Oh, that's Stuntman," 1018 00:45:34,541 --> 00:45:37,708 you know, that was the word, great. 1019 00:45:37,750 --> 00:45:40,833 - I feel good, you know, but for the song to take off, 1020 00:45:40,875 --> 00:45:45,750 and, I was excited, but at the same time, 1021 00:45:46,500 --> 00:45:48,583 Erick taught me how to be calm. 1022 00:45:49,875 --> 00:45:51,083 - Well, here it was successful, 1023 00:45:51,125 --> 00:45:53,166 but only at club level, you know, 1024 00:45:53,208 --> 00:45:57,374 it was just the clubs that really were playing it, 1025 00:45:57,416 --> 00:45:58,916 because here, in America, there were no, 1026 00:45:58,958 --> 00:46:00,666 there was no dance music on radio, 1027 00:46:00,708 --> 00:46:02,458 there was no dance music on MTV, 1028 00:46:02,500 --> 00:46:03,374 there was no dance music anywhere. 1029 00:46:03,416 --> 00:46:04,458 The only times you could hear dance music 1030 00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:06,249 was Saturday nights in the mix shows. 1031 00:46:06,291 --> 00:46:09,791 - Boom, it exploded, I mean, just was on the charts 1032 00:46:09,833 --> 00:46:13,791 for X amount of time, and then it just completely snowballed 1033 00:46:13,833 --> 00:46:16,791 into other countries, and then, now it was like, 1034 00:46:16,833 --> 00:46:19,499 yeah, (claps hands) yes. 1035 00:46:19,541 --> 00:46:21,625 - When the song started getting bigger, 1036 00:46:22,708 --> 00:46:24,958 it taught us how to be more professional, 1037 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:30,083 for me, you know, I finally started taking advantage 1038 00:46:30,125 --> 00:46:31,416 of what it had to offer. 1039 00:46:31,458 --> 00:46:34,333 - When I started seeing the fans, 1040 00:46:34,375 --> 00:46:37,249 the people coming up to you, that's when it really, 1041 00:46:37,291 --> 00:46:40,583 like, took me, you know, that, oh, wow, 1042 00:46:40,625 --> 00:46:42,333 I can't believe this is happening, 1043 00:46:42,375 --> 00:46:44,749 people coming up to you, asking you for an autograph, 1044 00:46:44,791 --> 00:46:47,541 and everything just took off so fast, 1045 00:46:47,583 --> 00:46:50,249 and it was just like, you had to keep your head up, 1046 00:46:50,291 --> 00:46:52,208 keep on the road, you know, Erick, 1047 00:46:52,250 --> 00:46:54,916 and at the time, Erick was, we didn't have no manager 1048 00:46:54,958 --> 00:46:56,916 or anything like that, Erick was, you know, 1049 00:46:56,958 --> 00:46:59,041 doing the managing, he was making sure 1050 00:46:59,083 --> 00:47:03,541 that everything was correct while we were on the road. 1051 00:47:03,583 --> 00:47:05,083 - It was the biggest record in the country, 1052 00:47:05,125 --> 00:47:07,249 it was massive, you would not go into any club 1053 00:47:07,291 --> 00:47:08,958 and not hear that record, I mean, 1054 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,583 we were doing shows all over the country, then Germany, 1055 00:47:11,625 --> 00:47:14,583 and it was just, it just took a life of its own. 1056 00:47:14,625 --> 00:47:18,333 - Traveling with Erick, and the dancers, 1057 00:47:19,291 --> 00:47:22,416 it was, we had to be a family, because, 1058 00:47:22,458 --> 00:47:26,499 remember, we were formed, me and Erick, 1059 00:47:26,541 --> 00:47:30,124 you know, wasn't friends at first, 1060 00:47:30,166 --> 00:47:31,999 you know, we had just met, and you know, 1061 00:47:32,041 --> 00:47:34,374 we never fought, we never fought at all, 1062 00:47:34,416 --> 00:47:39,041 we never had a falling out, when we were together, 1063 00:47:39,083 --> 00:47:44,875 living all together, living at one, in a big flat. 1064 00:47:45,125 --> 00:47:48,374 - You know, I remember, when we really knew it went big, 1065 00:47:48,416 --> 00:47:50,499 'cause we got on Top of the Pops, 1066 00:47:50,541 --> 00:47:53,083 and it was number, maybe nine? 1067 00:47:53,125 --> 00:47:55,874 At the Top of the Pops, you gotta be top 10, 1068 00:47:55,916 --> 00:47:58,041 so it was number nine, and we had to perform, 1069 00:47:58,083 --> 00:47:58,874 and we were like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah," 1070 00:47:58,916 --> 00:48:00,541 but we were upset that, you know, 1071 00:48:00,583 --> 00:48:03,708 it didn't make it, you know, a little higher, 1072 00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:05,791 so we thought, okay, this is it, we're gonna go, 1073 00:48:05,833 --> 00:48:07,874 this is our last time here. 1074 00:48:07,916 --> 00:48:10,666 We fly back home, and then we get a phone call, 1075 00:48:10,708 --> 00:48:13,166 "No, you gotta come back, you're now number two." 1076 00:48:14,041 --> 00:48:16,874 And this happened, like, three times in a row, 1077 00:48:16,916 --> 00:48:19,208 so by the third time, we were like, 1078 00:48:19,250 --> 00:48:22,791 this is it, we've been here for the same song, 1079 00:48:22,833 --> 00:48:25,291 Top of the Pops, we had to perform again, 1080 00:48:25,333 --> 00:48:27,291 that doesn't happen, you know? 1081 00:48:27,333 --> 00:48:30,583 So we're there, and I'm thinking, far out, 1082 00:48:30,625 --> 00:48:35,083 you know, we're now famous, we're literally famous. 1083 00:48:35,125 --> 00:48:40,666 - At that time, the song were all over on the radio, 1084 00:48:41,333 --> 00:48:45,041 it was everywhere, everywhere in England, 1085 00:48:45,083 --> 00:48:48,249 everywhere overseas. 1086 00:48:48,291 --> 00:48:51,083 - I mean, my feeling, the first time I hear 1087 00:48:51,125 --> 00:48:54,458 that record, and I realize how big, 1088 00:48:54,500 --> 00:48:59,500 or huge this song is, I felt like it was me, 1089 00:48:59,916 --> 00:49:03,249 I was like, wow, I smiled for, like, six months straight, 1090 00:49:03,291 --> 00:49:06,041 even in my sleep, I'd say, "Oh, I know this guy", 1091 00:49:06,083 --> 00:49:08,083 "and he my bredrin," this or that, 1092 00:49:08,125 --> 00:49:11,999 superstar status, you know, I applaud him every day, 1093 00:49:12,041 --> 00:49:14,374 up to this day, you know what I mean, 1094 00:49:14,416 --> 00:49:16,541 'cause that was a big move. 1095 00:49:16,583 --> 00:49:19,458 - We were doing radio stations, interviews, 1096 00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:22,208 the song was hot, magazine interviews, 1097 00:49:22,250 --> 00:49:26,666 a lot of interviews, it was like, I had to have, 1098 00:49:28,166 --> 00:49:30,458 maybe three, four interviews a day. 1099 00:49:30,500 --> 00:49:34,791 - I was, you know, the production company, 1100 00:49:34,833 --> 00:49:37,583 I was the producer, I was a lot of different things, 1101 00:49:37,625 --> 00:49:39,333 so it was a lot of things to handle. 1102 00:49:39,375 --> 00:49:40,791 I was the one handling the business side of things, 1103 00:49:40,833 --> 00:49:43,541 handling the dancers, handling the flights, 1104 00:49:43,583 --> 00:49:45,708 handling the hotels, like, you know, 1105 00:49:45,750 --> 00:49:47,666 I was doing it with some assistance, 1106 00:49:47,708 --> 00:49:51,250 but I was handling all that stuff, so it was overwhelming. 1107 00:49:51,458 --> 00:49:52,416 (Laughs) 1108 00:49:53,500 --> 00:49:54,458 - The money, 1109 00:49:55,375 --> 00:50:00,249 having, making no money, like start off with no money, 1110 00:50:00,291 --> 00:50:03,541 to being this superstar 1111 00:50:04,583 --> 00:50:09,000 artist on the charts around the world, 1112 00:50:10,250 --> 00:50:15,458 it was, oh, my god, the money. (laughs) 1113 00:50:16,208 --> 00:50:18,958 It was crazy, it was really, really good money, 1114 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:24,125 good money coming in, shows, you know, oh, my god. I... 1115 00:50:24,958 --> 00:50:28,333 Loads of checks, and coming in, 1116 00:50:28,375 --> 00:50:32,541 and, you know, seeing the amount of money 1117 00:50:32,583 --> 00:50:36,166 that you're getting for shows, and gigs, and whatever 1118 00:50:36,208 --> 00:50:39,791 that you are doing, it was pretty much, 1119 00:50:39,833 --> 00:50:42,708 I just wanted to spend, it's time to spend. 1120 00:50:43,083 --> 00:50:43,666 (Laughs) 1121 00:50:43,708 --> 00:50:45,375 - Go from one day to 1122 00:50:47,458 --> 00:50:48,333 living 1123 00:50:50,166 --> 00:50:51,041 just check to check, 1124 00:50:51,083 --> 00:50:54,166 trying to make ends meet, and the next day, 1125 00:50:54,208 --> 00:50:56,583 hearing your song on the radio, it's amazing, 1126 00:50:56,625 --> 00:51:00,125 you know, it's amazing, it was a wonderful time. 1127 00:51:01,041 --> 00:51:02,791 - So we would travel here and there, 1128 00:51:02,833 --> 00:51:05,749 and the most thing I would, like, call Erick and said, 1129 00:51:05,791 --> 00:51:09,874 "Hey, Erick, I need $20,000.00, I need $50,000.00." 1130 00:51:09,916 --> 00:51:11,583 Erick were like, "What are you doing with that money", 1131 00:51:11,625 --> 00:51:13,041 "what are you gonna do with that money?" 1132 00:51:13,083 --> 00:51:14,916 - Spending money, that was his thing, 1133 00:51:14,958 --> 00:51:18,083 you know, he liked to spend money. 1134 00:51:18,125 --> 00:51:20,791 - I'm like, "Man, I'm just gonna go spend this money, man," 1135 00:51:20,833 --> 00:51:22,499 and he was like, "Make sure and save" 1136 00:51:22,541 --> 00:51:25,666 "that money for a rainy day, 'cause you never know." 1137 00:51:25,708 --> 00:51:27,166 You know, a guy like me, 1138 00:51:27,208 --> 00:51:30,166 you telling me this is like going through one ear 1139 00:51:30,208 --> 00:51:32,958 and coming out the other, you know, it's just shopping, 1140 00:51:33,208 --> 00:51:38,416 it was, it's a good feel, good feeling, good feeling. 1141 00:51:38,458 --> 00:51:40,041 - You know, the first time. 1142 00:51:40,083 --> 00:51:43,041 I ever drove in a limousine was, 1143 00:51:43,083 --> 00:51:44,791 when Stuntman use to have the limousine on the block 1144 00:51:44,833 --> 00:51:48,208 he used to go downtown Albee Square Mall. Just around the neighborhood, 1145 00:51:48,250 --> 00:51:50,458 Driving in a limousine and having fun. 1146 00:51:50,500 --> 00:51:52,833 You know, he was always a good guy, 1147 00:51:52,875 --> 00:51:54,749 wasn't selfish, he'd look out for brothers 1148 00:51:54,791 --> 00:51:56,874 in the neighborhood, you know, 1149 00:51:56,916 --> 00:52:00,083 and all of our fun, and making it in life. 1150 00:52:01,708 --> 00:52:03,541 Yeah, and like we would say, 1151 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,625 Like he would say when we ready to go, let's Move It, Move It. 1152 00:52:07,625 --> 00:52:12,333 - You know what, when I flew back in from overseas, 1153 00:52:12,375 --> 00:52:14,291 and come home, when I came home, 1154 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,499 you know, I got so adapted by the rich life that, 1155 00:52:19,541 --> 00:52:22,249 you know, when you take a limousine, 1156 00:52:22,291 --> 00:52:25,791 you take a limousine to go and do a gig, 1157 00:52:25,833 --> 00:52:27,458 you know, but when I come home, 1158 00:52:27,500 --> 00:52:32,083 I would rent limousines, and take my friends out, 1159 00:52:32,125 --> 00:52:34,249 you know, take 'em out on the town, 1160 00:52:34,291 --> 00:52:37,624 and have a good time, you know, spend money, 1161 00:52:37,666 --> 00:52:41,124 buy them lavish things, you know, 1162 00:52:41,166 --> 00:52:44,124 go to clubs, and buy out the bar, 1163 00:52:44,166 --> 00:52:50,250 and just spending, you know, and the most excited thing was, 1164 00:52:50,750 --> 00:52:53,958 you know, they had never seen that. 1165 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,249 - After not seeing Stuntman in a long, 1166 00:52:56,291 --> 00:52:58,541 long time, Stuntman come link me up 1167 00:52:58,583 --> 00:53:01,416 in a stretch limo, and somebody say, 1168 00:53:01,458 --> 00:53:03,916 "Yo, somebody downstairs for you in a long car," 1169 00:53:03,958 --> 00:53:08,916 and the person who delivered the message didn't even know 1170 00:53:08,958 --> 00:53:09,999 what the name of the car, it was, 1171 00:53:10,041 --> 00:53:12,958 "This guy is in a long car, a super long car," 1172 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,749 "it looked like a caterpillar." 1173 00:53:14,791 --> 00:53:18,833 So I go downstairs, it was Stuntman in a suit, 1174 00:53:20,208 --> 00:53:24,791 I'm a call it "spants," no, I'm a call it "shants," 1175 00:53:26,500 --> 00:53:29,041 'cause it's a shorts and a pants into a, 1176 00:53:29,083 --> 00:53:32,583 and it's a dress suit, but one foot is a shorts, 1177 00:53:32,625 --> 00:53:35,041 and the next foot is regular long pants, 1178 00:53:35,083 --> 00:53:38,708 and there was nobody (mumbles) decked out, 1179 00:53:38,750 --> 00:53:41,999 and the limousine, right here waiting, you know. 1180 00:53:42,041 --> 00:53:44,124 And Stuntman's always a good dude, 1181 00:53:44,166 --> 00:53:45,874 man, you know, we'd drive all over, 1182 00:53:45,916 --> 00:53:48,916 all over Brooklyn, picking up people, 1183 00:53:48,958 --> 00:53:51,624 just to come and drive, you know, that was (mumbles), 1184 00:53:51,666 --> 00:53:53,124 Stuntman would say, "Yo, I can't do this alone," 1185 00:53:53,166 --> 00:53:57,416 "I love have fun, and I can’t enjoy myself by myself" 1186 00:53:57,458 --> 00:53:59,458 "we'll go pick up some people," 1187 00:53:59,500 --> 00:54:02,333 and me say, "Cool, I'm with it," yeah, so. 1188 00:54:02,375 --> 00:54:06,333 - They saw me from having nothing, 1189 00:54:06,375 --> 00:54:09,458 to unbelievably having something, 1190 00:54:09,500 --> 00:54:14,041 and being known as The Mad Stuntman, Reel 2 Real, 1191 00:54:14,083 --> 00:54:16,874 and have this song, and traveling around the world, 1192 00:54:16,916 --> 00:54:17,708 you know, 1193 00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:21,833 and things that they really thought could happen to me, 1194 00:54:21,875 --> 00:54:24,291 that had happened, right before their eyes. 1195 00:54:24,333 --> 00:54:27,083 So when they see, you know, and I'd call them, 1196 00:54:27,125 --> 00:54:30,041 and I'd tell them, "Let's go out, and let's go eat," 1197 00:54:30,083 --> 00:54:31,958 everyone is excited. 1198 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,541 - I would say this, man, I would say, 1199 00:54:34,583 --> 00:54:36,541 he's always been a loving individual, 1200 00:54:36,583 --> 00:54:37,874 always had a big heart, you know, 1201 00:54:37,916 --> 00:54:40,749 he'd never, he'll give you the last, 1202 00:54:40,791 --> 00:54:42,874 he'll give you the last, you know what I mean? 1203 00:54:42,916 --> 00:54:46,166 - Stuntman was a very giving, and still is, 1204 00:54:46,208 --> 00:54:49,166 you know what I mean, he’s a giving, I would tell him say yo... 1205 00:54:50,333 --> 00:54:52,958 "Give yourself something to nah man," yeah, (Laughs) 1206 00:54:53,291 --> 00:54:57,583 (mumble) Yeah man, he’s a very kindhearted person man, 1207 00:54:57,791 --> 00:54:59,958 Stuntman, yeah, man. 1208 00:55:00,541 --> 00:55:01,874 - He was meant to make this happen, 1209 00:55:01,916 --> 00:55:05,416 because he was always chatting, always rhyming, 1210 00:55:05,458 --> 00:55:08,124 always battling, always at that challenge, 1211 00:55:08,166 --> 00:55:10,208 you know what I'm saying, like we, 1212 00:55:10,250 --> 00:55:12,374 we grew up watching him do this naturally, 1213 00:55:12,416 --> 00:55:15,041 so shit, I'm glad he made a dollar off of it. 1214 00:55:15,083 --> 00:55:15,708 (Trimmer Click) 1215 00:55:16,250 --> 00:55:20,000 - The success of I Like To Move It and Go On, Move, 1216 00:55:22,333 --> 00:55:27,791 we were told to do an album, we had was to do an album. 1217 00:55:29,125 --> 00:55:31,416 Called the album the Move It album, 1218 00:55:31,458 --> 00:55:33,249 from the song, I Like To Move It, 1219 00:55:33,291 --> 00:55:36,916 we decided to call the Move It the album. 1220 00:55:38,083 --> 00:55:40,166 We did Can You Feel It. 1221 00:55:40,208 --> 00:55:41,583 ♪ Can you feel it, baby ♪ 1222 00:55:41,625 --> 00:55:43,958 ♪ Can you feel it, baby ♪ 1223 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,374 ♪ Can you feel it, baby ♪ 1224 00:55:47,416 --> 00:55:50,041 ♪ This is Mad Stuntman upon your case ♪ 1225 00:55:50,083 --> 00:55:53,749 ♪ Wicked every time, right ♪ 1226 00:55:53,791 --> 00:55:55,958 ♪ (Laughs) ♪ 1227 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,291 ♪ So all rude boys and rude girls ♪ 1228 00:55:58,333 --> 00:55:59,916 ♪ Feel the rhythm ♪ 1229 00:55:59,958 --> 00:56:01,624 ♪ And feel the vibes ♪ 1230 00:56:01,666 --> 00:56:02,541 ♪ Hear me now ♪ 1231 00:56:02,583 --> 00:56:03,374 ♪ Watch the DJ ♪ 1232 00:56:03,416 --> 00:56:04,499 ♪ Him a mix like a blender ♪ 1233 00:56:04,541 --> 00:56:06,083 ♪ Mix like a what, mix like a blender ♪ 1234 00:56:06,125 --> 00:56:07,124 ♪ Upon the dance floor ♪ 1235 00:56:07,166 --> 00:56:08,124 ♪ Everybody in a merger ♪ 1236 00:56:08,166 --> 00:56:09,083 ♪ With a good feel ♪ 1237 00:56:09,125 --> 00:56:10,041 ♪ With a good what ♪ 1238 00:56:10,083 --> 00:56:10,999 ♪ Music feel nice ♪ 1239 00:56:11,041 --> 00:56:11,999 ♪ It's getting hotter ♪ 1240 00:56:12,041 --> 00:56:12,874 ♪ Hotter than ever ♪ 1241 00:56:12,916 --> 00:56:13,916 ♪ Hotter than pleasure ♪ 1242 00:56:13,958 --> 00:56:14,874 ♪ Hotter than lovers ♪ 1243 00:56:14,916 --> 00:56:15,874 ♪ Hotter than what ♪ 1244 00:56:15,916 --> 00:56:16,791 ♪ Hotter than bread ♪ 1245 00:56:16,833 --> 00:56:17,999 ♪ Hotter than butter ♪ 1246 00:56:18,041 --> 00:56:19,541 We did 1247 00:56:21,041 --> 00:56:22,916 Raise Your Hands. 1248 00:56:22,958 --> 00:56:25,333 ♪ Respect ♪ 1249 00:56:25,375 --> 00:56:29,666 ♪ In every aspect ♪ 1250 00:56:29,708 --> 00:56:31,666 ♪ Raise your hands if you're having a good time ♪ 1251 00:56:31,708 --> 00:56:33,583 ♪ Raise your hands if you're having a good time ♪ 1252 00:56:33,625 --> 00:56:35,666 ♪ Raise your hands if you're having a good time ♪ 1253 00:56:35,708 --> 00:56:37,583 ♪ Raise your hands if you feeling fine ♪ 1254 00:56:37,625 --> 00:56:39,458 ♪ Raise your hands if you're having a good time ♪ 1255 00:56:39,500 --> 00:56:41,374 ♪ Raise your hands if you're having a good time ♪ 1256 00:56:41,416 --> 00:56:43,333 ♪ Raise your hands if you're having a good time ♪ 1257 00:56:43,375 --> 00:56:44,999 ♪ Raise your hands if you're feeling fine ♪ 1258 00:56:45,041 --> 00:56:49,041 And there was another song, I think it was Conway. 1259 00:56:49,083 --> 00:56:52,666 ♪ I'm the main man ♪ 1260 00:56:52,708 --> 00:56:54,124 ♪ I don't know, but I just can tell ♪ 1261 00:56:54,166 --> 00:56:56,083 ♪ Why some girls got to be nice to wear ♪ 1262 00:56:56,125 --> 00:56:57,958 ♪ I don't know, but I just can tell ♪ 1263 00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:59,499 ♪ Why some girls got to be nice to wear ♪ 1264 00:56:59,541 --> 00:57:01,166 ♪ So they want expensive ♪ 1265 00:57:01,208 --> 00:57:03,499 ♪ And they're shopping at Conway ♪ 1266 00:57:03,541 --> 00:57:04,874 ♪ So they go on expensive ♪ 1267 00:57:04,916 --> 00:57:07,708 ♪ And them a shopping at Conway ♪ 1268 00:57:07,750 --> 00:57:11,374 ♪ Monday, Tuesday, going to Conway ♪ 1269 00:57:11,416 --> 00:57:15,249 ♪ Wednesday, Thursday, going to Conway ♪ 1270 00:57:15,291 --> 00:57:18,624 ♪ Friday, Saturday, going to Conway ♪ 1271 00:57:18,666 --> 00:57:22,666 ♪ 34th and Broadway, 34th and Broadway ♪ 1272 00:57:22,708 --> 00:57:25,791 Five singles released from the Move It album, 1273 00:57:25,833 --> 00:57:27,249 Go on, Move, I Like To Move It, 1274 00:57:27,291 --> 00:57:31,333 Can You Feel It, Raise Your Hands, and Conway. 1275 00:57:31,375 --> 00:57:32,749 ♪ Cheapskate, won't be let in Conway ♪ 1276 00:57:32,791 --> 00:57:33,791 ♪ If there's a cheapskate ♪ 1277 00:57:33,833 --> 00:57:34,624 ♪ Never going shopping ♪ 1278 00:57:34,666 --> 00:57:36,499 ♪ With even grandmother, big poser! ♪ 1279 00:57:36,541 --> 00:57:37,499 ♪ Pon every corner ♪ 1280 00:57:37,541 --> 00:57:39,541 ♪ Come and dance so, like them fix bout here ♪ 1281 00:57:39,583 --> 00:57:40,291 ♪ When you checking out ♪ 1282 00:57:40,333 --> 00:57:41,458 ♪ Them ah wear polyester ♪ 1283 00:57:41,500 --> 00:57:43,291 ♪ In ah gold chain, and in ah silver ♪ 1284 00:57:43,333 --> 00:57:44,249 ♪ Give them babymother money ♪ 1285 00:57:44,291 --> 00:57:45,458 ♪ Go buy them a pamper ♪ 1286 00:57:45,500 --> 00:57:47,208 ♪ Can't buy milk, can't buy sugar ♪ 1287 00:57:47,250 --> 00:57:48,874 ♪ I don't know, but I just can tell ♪ 1288 00:57:48,916 --> 00:57:50,499 ♪ Why some girls got to be nice to wear ♪ 1289 00:57:50,541 --> 00:57:52,499 ♪ I don't know, but I just can tell ♪ 1290 00:57:52,541 --> 00:57:54,124 ♪ Why some girls got to be nice to wear ♪ 1291 00:57:54,166 --> 00:57:55,624 ♪ So they go on expensive ♪ 1292 00:57:55,666 --> 00:57:57,624 ♪ And they're shopping at Conway ♪ 1293 00:57:57,666 --> 00:58:02,333 Those were the five songs from the Move It album. 1294 00:58:02,375 --> 00:58:05,583 - By that point, you know, this was now the second album, 1295 00:58:05,625 --> 00:58:10,041 again, there was a record I had put out as Erick Morillo, 1296 00:58:10,083 --> 00:58:12,791 prior to us starting work on the second album, 1297 00:58:12,833 --> 00:58:15,083 but it became such a big club record, 1298 00:58:15,125 --> 00:58:16,916 again, he, it was call Jazz It Up. 1299 00:58:16,958 --> 00:58:18,416 ♪ Jazz it up, jazz it up ♪ 1300 00:58:18,458 --> 00:58:20,999 ♪ Jazz it up ♪ 1301 00:58:21,041 --> 00:58:22,291 ♪ Jazz it up, jazz it up ♪ 1302 00:58:22,333 --> 00:58:24,749 ♪ Jazz it up ♪ 1303 00:58:24,791 --> 00:58:28,541 ♪ Jazz it up, jazz it up, wicked, man ♪ 1304 00:58:28,583 --> 00:58:29,833 ♪ Jazz it up, jazz it up ♪ 1305 00:58:29,875 --> 00:58:31,666 ♪ Jazz it up ♪ 1306 00:58:31,708 --> 00:58:34,083 ♪ Listen to the drummer, me say listen to the beat ♪ 1307 00:58:34,125 --> 00:58:35,749 ♪ Jazz music makes you move your feet ♪ 1308 00:58:35,791 --> 00:58:39,208 - The second album were, the name 1309 00:58:39,250 --> 00:58:41,916 of it was Are You Ready For Some More, 1310 00:58:41,958 --> 00:58:45,499 off of the Move It album, Are You Ready For Some More. 1311 00:58:45,541 --> 00:58:48,166 The first single was Are You Ready For Some More. 1312 00:58:48,208 --> 00:58:49,124 ♪ Are you ready for some more ♪ 1313 00:58:49,166 --> 00:58:49,958 ♪ Oh, yeah ♪ 1314 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:50,874 ♪ Are you ready for some more ♪ 1315 00:58:50,916 --> 00:58:51,708 ♪ Oh, yeah ♪ 1316 00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:52,749 ♪ Are you ready for some more ♪ 1317 00:58:52,791 --> 00:58:53,583 ♪ Oh, yeah ♪ 1318 00:58:53,625 --> 00:58:54,624 ♪ Are you ready for some more ♪ 1319 00:58:54,666 --> 00:58:55,458 ♪ Oh, yeah ♪ 1320 00:58:55,500 --> 00:58:57,333 ♪ 'Cause you know I want to feel it ♪ 1321 00:58:57,375 --> 00:58:59,083 ♪ And you know I need to feel it ♪ 1322 00:58:59,125 --> 00:59:01,041 ♪ 'Cause you know I want to feel it ♪ 1323 00:59:01,083 --> 00:59:02,874 ♪ And you know I need to feel it ♪ 1324 00:59:02,916 --> 00:59:04,124 ♪ Are you ready for some more ♪ 1325 00:59:04,166 --> 00:59:05,041 ♪ Oh, yeah ♪ 1326 00:59:05,083 --> 00:59:06,041 ♪ Are you ready for some more ♪ 1327 00:59:06,083 --> 00:59:06,916 ♪ Oh, yeah ♪ 1328 00:59:06,958 --> 00:59:07,916 ♪ Are you ready for some more ♪ 1329 00:59:07,958 --> 00:59:08,749 ♪ Oh, yeah ♪ 1330 00:59:08,791 --> 00:59:09,791 ♪ Are you ready for some more ♪ 1331 00:59:09,833 --> 00:59:10,708 ♪ Oh, yeah ♪ 1332 00:59:10,750 --> 00:59:12,499 ♪ 'Cause you know I want to feel it ♪ 1333 00:59:12,541 --> 00:59:14,249 ♪ And you know I need to feel it ♪ 1334 00:59:14,291 --> 00:59:16,291 ♪ 'Cause you know I want to feel it ♪ 1335 00:59:16,333 --> 00:59:18,624 ♪ And you know I need to feel it ♪ 1336 00:59:18,666 --> 00:59:21,791 - By that point, I kind of wanted to really, 1337 00:59:21,833 --> 00:59:24,166 the whole DJ thing was really big for me, 1338 00:59:24,208 --> 00:59:25,791 and I was already starting to DJ, you know, 1339 00:59:25,833 --> 00:59:29,666 and what have you, I think that the album did really well, 1340 00:59:29,708 --> 00:59:32,875 but I think the sound itself, you know, it was, 1341 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,249 it had success in a lot of territories, 1342 00:59:36,291 --> 00:59:37,625 but I think that, you know, 1343 00:59:39,458 --> 00:59:42,874 the rapping thing on dance music, 1344 00:59:42,916 --> 00:59:45,124 it kind of became already, people already knew it 1345 00:59:45,166 --> 00:59:47,833 from the first album, but it was, you know, 1346 00:59:47,875 --> 00:59:49,166 we definitely had success with it. 1347 00:59:49,208 --> 00:59:53,083 - And we were about to release the third single. 1348 00:59:53,125 --> 00:59:56,791 - And, you know, there was a lot of little turmoil going on 1349 00:59:56,833 --> 00:59:59,624 with the label, and one of the dancers got involved 1350 00:59:59,666 --> 01:00:02,958 with the A&R guy, and, you know, Stuntman, 1351 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,541 it was a lot of stuff going on at the time. 1352 01:00:05,583 --> 01:00:06,791 But the album did well, you know, 1353 01:00:06,833 --> 01:00:08,583 we finished it, we put it out, 1354 01:00:08,625 --> 01:00:10,999 he was touring like crazy, I mean, 1355 01:00:11,041 --> 01:00:12,624 he was on the road every weekend, 1356 01:00:12,666 --> 01:00:14,583 you know, I mean, that went on for years. 1357 01:00:14,625 --> 01:00:17,624 - And we were, you know, it wasn't, 1358 01:00:17,666 --> 01:00:21,041 it wasn't a house music single, 1359 01:00:21,083 --> 01:00:25,124 but it a was a single more like R&B like type, 1360 01:00:25,166 --> 01:00:27,750 popish, it called Life's Funny. 1361 01:00:28,541 --> 01:00:31,624 ♪ Let's talk about money, rise or shine ♪ 1362 01:00:31,666 --> 01:00:33,916 ♪ Meh want ah penthouse over the skyline ♪ 1363 01:00:33,958 --> 01:00:35,291 ♪ Getting lifted every lyrical ♪ 1364 01:00:35,333 --> 01:00:36,708 ♪ Every other line ♪ 1365 01:00:36,750 --> 01:00:39,166 ♪ Girls in the front and the men from behind ♪ 1366 01:00:39,208 --> 01:00:41,624 ♪ Go and get a job, don’t bother with no crime ♪ 1367 01:00:41,666 --> 01:00:42,624 ♪ If you're looking every day ♪ 1368 01:00:42,666 --> 01:00:44,208 ♪ It's not very hard to find ♪ 1369 01:00:44,250 --> 01:00:46,583 ♪ Looking out for money, everything takes time ♪ 1370 01:00:46,625 --> 01:00:47,666 ♪ To get the gold, chum ♪ 1371 01:00:47,708 --> 01:00:49,124 ♪ You must have a dime ♪ 1372 01:00:49,166 --> 01:00:51,041 ♪ Life funny, oh, isn't life funny ♪ 1373 01:00:51,083 --> 01:00:53,208 ♪ Oh, isn't life funny when we're talking about ♪ 1374 01:00:53,250 --> 01:00:55,666 The Move It album, I was like, you know, 1375 01:00:55,708 --> 01:00:57,583 dressed up in all my, you know, 1376 01:00:57,625 --> 01:01:01,291 outrageous, outrageous, what do you call it, 1377 01:01:01,333 --> 01:01:04,083 get-ups, you know, and the second album, 1378 01:01:04,125 --> 01:01:07,249 I were, you know, still The Mad Stuntman, 1379 01:01:07,291 --> 01:01:11,083 but a little smoother than the first album, 1380 01:01:11,125 --> 01:01:14,541 you know, so the looks were different, you know. 1381 01:01:14,583 --> 01:01:16,916 - We were nominated for an MTV Award, 1382 01:01:16,958 --> 01:01:18,583 this year, it was European MTV Awards, 1383 01:01:18,625 --> 01:01:21,124 it was Berlin, it was for best dance act, 1384 01:01:21,166 --> 01:01:24,125 and I think that year, if I'm not mistaken, 1385 01:01:24,666 --> 01:01:27,291 I want to say 2 Unlimited, but I don't remember who won, 1386 01:01:27,333 --> 01:01:29,333 but just being nominated alone, 1387 01:01:29,375 --> 01:01:31,958 for me that was amazing, never been nominated, 1388 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,166 not for MTV Awards, I mean, it was, 1389 01:01:34,208 --> 01:01:36,833 you know, it's broadcast all over Europe, 1390 01:01:36,875 --> 01:01:38,499 you know, it's, it has the same 1391 01:01:38,541 --> 01:01:41,291 of what the MTV Dance Awards, I mean, 1392 01:01:41,333 --> 01:01:43,541 MTV Awards are here, so, you know, 1393 01:01:43,583 --> 01:01:45,749 and it was, just being nominated, 1394 01:01:45,791 --> 01:01:48,333 going to the show in Berlin, going through the whole hoopla, 1395 01:01:48,375 --> 01:01:51,833 whole press thing was amazing, it was an amazing ride. 1396 01:01:51,875 --> 01:01:56,041 - Just the presence of being nominated was good, 1397 01:01:56,083 --> 01:01:59,791 because I already had most you little acceptance speech, 1398 01:01:59,833 --> 01:02:02,249 like, you know, like, pre-written, 1399 01:02:02,291 --> 01:02:04,166 me and Eric, like pre-written, it was like, 1400 01:02:04,208 --> 01:02:07,416 "What are we gonna say when we, you know, if we win?" 1401 01:02:07,458 --> 01:02:09,291 So, you know, we just had something, 1402 01:02:09,333 --> 01:02:11,458 you know, written out, but we were nominated, 1403 01:02:11,500 --> 01:02:13,291 we didn't win, but we were nominated. 1404 01:02:13,333 --> 01:02:16,125 It was such a great feel, really, really good. 1405 01:02:19,083 --> 01:02:21,166 By the time the second album came around, 1406 01:02:21,208 --> 01:02:22,958 we had was to, like, you know, 1407 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,333 record on the album, and traveling, 1408 01:02:25,375 --> 01:02:27,666 and stuff like that, it got so hectic, 1409 01:02:27,708 --> 01:02:30,833 you know, Erick had, Erick was DJing, 1410 01:02:30,875 --> 01:02:34,249 as well, you know, so he had to be in the studio, 1411 01:02:34,291 --> 01:02:36,249 doing, you know, what he's supposed to be doing, 1412 01:02:36,291 --> 01:02:40,041 you know, in the studio, and most of the time, 1413 01:02:40,083 --> 01:02:43,291 if he were to come out on certain gigs, 1414 01:02:43,333 --> 01:02:46,166 he would make it, most of the time he would not make it, 1415 01:02:46,208 --> 01:02:47,708 we would be on our own, yes. 1416 01:02:47,750 --> 01:02:50,083 - Once it started rolling, you know, 1417 01:02:50,125 --> 01:02:51,958 I came off the road, he was just going on the road 1418 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:53,416 on his own, you know, at first, 1419 01:02:53,458 --> 01:02:55,124 I went on the road, the keyboards, 1420 01:02:55,166 --> 01:02:57,291 what have you, but it just took a life on its own, 1421 01:02:57,333 --> 01:02:58,833 and if I went on the road all the time, 1422 01:02:58,875 --> 01:02:59,999 I would get no work done. 1423 01:03:00,041 --> 01:03:02,791 - Being on our own is not, we already know the ropes 1424 01:03:02,833 --> 01:03:05,374 and everything, Stuntman, you got your schedule, 1425 01:03:05,416 --> 01:03:08,041 and we have, you know, like, other people overseas, 1426 01:03:08,083 --> 01:03:10,541 like Jody Sharp, you know, he would, 1427 01:03:10,583 --> 01:03:14,333 you know, give Jody Sharp, talk with her, 1428 01:03:14,375 --> 01:03:17,374 and have her, you know, doing the managing and everything. 1429 01:03:17,416 --> 01:03:19,791 So we were in good hands, we were in good hands, 1430 01:03:19,833 --> 01:03:21,833 in the UK, we were in good hands. 1431 01:03:21,875 --> 01:03:23,999 That's like my second home, I love England. 1432 01:03:24,041 --> 01:03:25,541 - So while he was touring on the weekends, 1433 01:03:25,583 --> 01:03:27,583 I'm, like, working on music, he would come back, 1434 01:03:27,625 --> 01:03:29,083 we would lay down vocals, he would leave, 1435 01:03:29,125 --> 01:03:30,874 you know, like that. 1436 01:03:30,916 --> 01:03:32,083 And then I was working on other records, 1437 01:03:32,125 --> 01:03:33,416 as well, so, you know, for me, 1438 01:03:33,458 --> 01:03:35,874 I couldn't go on the road, you know, 1439 01:03:35,916 --> 01:03:38,541 all the time, so he was, he was Reel 2 Real, 1440 01:03:38,583 --> 01:03:41,041 he was The Mad Stuntman, he was, you know, 1441 01:03:41,083 --> 01:03:44,708 he was the face, and he did it great, 1442 01:03:44,750 --> 01:03:45,916 you know, I never got a complaint 1443 01:03:45,958 --> 01:03:49,249 from none of the labels that, you know, 1444 01:03:49,291 --> 01:03:50,874 that, you know, picked us up, and whatever, 1445 01:03:50,916 --> 01:03:53,208 I never had a complain from tour managers, I never got. 1446 01:03:53,250 --> 01:03:54,916 You know, if anything, maybe sometimes he was a little late, 1447 01:03:54,958 --> 01:03:57,833 but, come on, we all do that, you know what I mean? 1448 01:03:57,875 --> 01:03:59,749 But other than that, he was a true professional, 1449 01:03:59,791 --> 01:04:01,583 and handled it like a champ, you know, 1450 01:04:01,625 --> 01:04:03,083 and, you know, he was going through a lot 1451 01:04:03,125 --> 01:04:05,666 of adversity in his own personal life, 1452 01:04:05,708 --> 01:04:07,958 you know, with children, and with his family, 1453 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,083 and what have you, and he handled his career, you know, 1454 01:04:11,125 --> 01:04:13,999 very well, considering all the stuff that was going on. 1455 01:04:14,041 --> 01:04:15,001 (slow music) 1456 01:04:25,250 --> 01:04:30,041 - After Conway, I remember, no, after the Puerto Rico video, 1457 01:04:31,083 --> 01:04:33,749 that's when I realized there was friction, 'cause again, 1458 01:04:33,791 --> 01:04:36,708 the A&R company would tell me everything 1459 01:04:36,750 --> 01:04:38,874 that Erick was doing, and they said, 1460 01:04:38,916 --> 01:04:41,541 "Look, there's a new dancer, Aileen," 1461 01:04:41,583 --> 01:04:45,583 "and instead of spreading the attention individually," 1462 01:04:45,625 --> 01:04:48,124 "they really want us to focus on her." 1463 01:04:48,166 --> 01:04:50,874 - It's, you know, sometimes it's being at the right place 1464 01:04:50,916 --> 01:04:53,499 at the right time, you know, and again, it was one 1465 01:04:53,541 --> 01:04:58,083 of those things where he liked my professionalism, 1466 01:04:58,125 --> 01:05:02,708 he liked my talent, the way that I danced, and he said, 1467 01:05:02,750 --> 01:05:07,249 "Look, you know, I'm producing this group, Reel 2 Real," 1468 01:05:07,291 --> 01:05:09,833 "we're going on tour, would you like to join?" 1469 01:05:09,875 --> 01:05:12,333 And I was like, (gibbers) "Are you crazy", 1470 01:05:13,458 --> 01:05:16,541 "does a bear shit in the woods, of course." (laughs) 1471 01:05:16,583 --> 01:05:18,124 - "So we think Erick is up to something, 1472 01:05:18,166 --> 01:05:20,499 "we think Erick is slowly trying to push you out." 1473 01:05:20,541 --> 01:05:22,499 And we're like, and then he goes, 1474 01:05:22,541 --> 01:05:25,666 "But in the contract, he can't, he legally can't," 1475 01:05:25,708 --> 01:05:27,916 "you know, you are the main dancer, you gotta stay." 1476 01:05:27,958 --> 01:05:30,999 So no matter what, he's telling the director, 1477 01:05:31,041 --> 01:05:33,999 "Film Aileen more," the record company was saying, 1478 01:05:34,041 --> 01:05:36,999 "No, you film both of them," so in the video, 1479 01:05:37,041 --> 01:05:39,666 you see they're really introducing her, you know? 1480 01:05:39,708 --> 01:05:42,291 Normally it used to always be me, me, me, me, me, 1481 01:05:42,333 --> 01:05:43,833 and they're introducing her for once, 1482 01:05:43,875 --> 01:05:45,791 but a little more than normal, 1483 01:05:45,833 --> 01:05:47,499 and that's when I noticed kind of the change, 1484 01:05:47,541 --> 01:05:49,249 and I was like, "Mm, something's coming." 1485 01:05:49,291 --> 01:05:51,749 - I mean, it was great, you know, I mean, 1486 01:05:51,791 --> 01:05:55,124 to be honest, he was barely on tour with us, 1487 01:05:55,166 --> 01:05:58,208 like, he would come out for, like, the big shows, 1488 01:05:58,250 --> 01:06:02,833 you know, but, I mean, for the most part, 1489 01:06:02,875 --> 01:06:05,624 he was a great boss, you know, if it wasn't for him, 1490 01:06:05,666 --> 01:06:07,624 you know, obviously, you know, 1491 01:06:07,666 --> 01:06:09,541 I wouldn't have had the opportunity 1492 01:06:09,583 --> 01:06:12,583 or the blessing to go on tour with Reel 2 Real. 1493 01:06:12,625 --> 01:06:15,666 - I think after Puerto Rico, that's when Conway came, 1494 01:06:15,708 --> 01:06:19,124 and with Conway, again, it was now even, 1495 01:06:19,166 --> 01:06:20,583 it was individually, and I thought, okay, 1496 01:06:20,625 --> 01:06:22,833 it's back to normal, so I kind of thought, 1497 01:06:22,875 --> 01:06:24,791 okay, I don't have to worry about it now. 1498 01:06:24,833 --> 01:06:27,499 But then we went to that trip in San Francisco, 1499 01:06:27,541 --> 01:06:31,208 where I just stood up for myself, you know, 1500 01:06:31,250 --> 01:06:33,791 I got sick of being pimped, you know? 1501 01:06:33,833 --> 01:06:36,416 I wanted rest, that's all it was, 1502 01:06:36,458 --> 01:06:39,208 but I also knew Erick was gonna take advantage of that, 1503 01:06:39,250 --> 01:06:43,833 so I saw it coming, and then I think he called my sister, 1504 01:06:43,875 --> 01:06:45,666 and he told her, "Look, you know", 1505 01:06:45,708 --> 01:06:49,541 "she refused to do an interview with a radio station," 1506 01:06:49,583 --> 01:06:52,458 "so we now have to let her go." 1507 01:06:52,500 --> 01:06:57,500 - In my time, when Baby started, you know, with us, 1508 01:06:59,125 --> 01:07:01,999 as the main Reel 2 Real dancer, 1509 01:07:02,041 --> 01:07:03,916 she was always the main, 1510 01:07:03,958 --> 01:07:07,291 because when she would portray it out 1511 01:07:07,333 --> 01:07:10,416 in videos, everybody, you know, know her, 1512 01:07:10,458 --> 01:07:13,291 and they know Aileen, like, her and Aileen is, 1513 01:07:13,333 --> 01:07:15,999 like, the two main dancers. 1514 01:07:16,041 --> 01:07:17,583 - You know, so she's like, "We both know" 1515 01:07:17,625 --> 01:07:19,874 "that's not what it is, but that's fine." 1516 01:07:19,916 --> 01:07:22,374 So she rang me, and she goes, "Look", 1517 01:07:22,416 --> 01:07:25,333 "I want you to call MTV," 'cause MTV had offered me a job 1518 01:07:25,375 --> 01:07:27,541 with them, and she goes, "Accept the job", 1519 01:07:27,583 --> 01:07:29,833 "because Erick is now gonna let you go," 1520 01:07:29,875 --> 01:07:31,874 "he's gonna tell you soon, so you need" 1521 01:07:31,916 --> 01:07:33,499 "to just plant everything you need." 1522 01:07:33,541 --> 01:07:35,749 And by then, I was devastated, 1523 01:07:35,791 --> 01:07:38,208 and it wasn't so much leaving the band, 1524 01:07:38,250 --> 01:07:41,583 it was saying goodbye, you know? 1525 01:07:41,625 --> 01:07:44,124 And I remember the night beforehand, Aileen and I, 1526 01:07:44,166 --> 01:07:47,666 and Stuntman, we spent the whole night just drinking, 1527 01:07:47,708 --> 01:07:50,166 talking, and it was just a lot of love in the room, 1528 01:07:50,208 --> 01:07:52,999 Stuntman was crying, I was crying, you know, 1529 01:07:53,041 --> 01:07:54,916 it was really, really, really sad. 1530 01:07:54,958 --> 01:07:57,624 - Everyone keep requesting Baby, though, 1531 01:07:57,666 --> 01:07:59,624 Baby is like, "Where's baby?" 1532 01:07:59,666 --> 01:08:01,791 I have, up to this day, people telling me, 1533 01:08:01,833 --> 01:08:04,666 "Where's Baby, where's Baby," you know? 1534 01:08:04,708 --> 01:08:06,833 And they really love those dancers. 1535 01:08:13,333 --> 01:08:17,541 Things started going haywire, downhill, 1536 01:08:17,583 --> 01:08:22,583 around the third single to be released, this was 1997. 1537 01:08:24,458 --> 01:08:29,124 I remember when we were performing in, 1538 01:08:29,166 --> 01:08:32,791 we did gigs around South Africa, like, 1539 01:08:32,833 --> 01:08:36,541 we was in Johannesburg, and Durban, 1540 01:08:36,583 --> 01:08:39,916 and different part of South Africa, 1541 01:08:39,958 --> 01:08:41,583 and, you know, Africa is really hot, 1542 01:08:41,625 --> 01:08:45,708 really, really hot, and performing-wise, 1543 01:08:45,750 --> 01:08:49,833 you know, and coming out from Africa, 1544 01:08:49,875 --> 01:08:52,916 and going back to England, and coming to New York is 1545 01:08:52,958 --> 01:08:55,083 where I really got sick, you know, 1546 01:08:55,125 --> 01:08:57,541 and I told Erick I wasn't feeling well, 1547 01:08:57,583 --> 01:09:00,458 and he told me, "Well, if you're not feeling well", 1548 01:09:00,500 --> 01:09:01,708 "why don't you go to the hospital" 1549 01:09:01,750 --> 01:09:02,874 "and see what's wrong with you?" 1550 01:09:02,916 --> 01:09:04,666 You know, so I went to the hospital, 1551 01:09:04,708 --> 01:09:07,791 Palisades Hospital in New Jersey, like, 1552 01:09:09,041 --> 01:09:10,833 not too far from where we're living 1553 01:09:10,875 --> 01:09:15,166 in Galaxy Towers in New Jersey, West New York, 1554 01:09:15,208 --> 01:09:19,083 Guttenberg, you know, and went to the hospital, 1555 01:09:19,125 --> 01:09:22,958 and the doctor was like, "Well, you're not", 1556 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,749 "you're sick, that you can't travel," you know, 1557 01:09:26,791 --> 01:09:30,499 so he was like, "Call, you know," you know? 1558 01:09:30,541 --> 01:09:31,708 So I called Erick, I was like, 1559 01:09:31,750 --> 01:09:34,958 "Erick, the doctor said that I won't be able to travel," 1560 01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,166 "because I'm sick, you know, I may have to," 1561 01:09:37,208 --> 01:09:38,833 "you know, stay in the hospital probably one" 1562 01:09:38,875 --> 01:09:40,791 "or two days, or whatever, so they can," 1563 01:09:40,833 --> 01:09:42,999 "you know, look me over, or whatever." 1564 01:09:43,041 --> 01:09:45,916 So I remember getting a phone call from Erick, 1565 01:09:45,958 --> 01:09:49,499 and he said, "Stuntman, you have a gig in Finland." 1566 01:09:49,541 --> 01:09:51,583 - That was just one of, you know, 1567 01:09:51,625 --> 01:09:52,999 like I said, he was very professional, 1568 01:09:53,041 --> 01:09:57,833 always professional, it was, Stuntman, 1569 01:09:58,958 --> 01:10:02,208 Stuntman's funny, that's why he said we stopped working? 1570 01:10:02,250 --> 01:10:03,999 'Cause of a hospital, and I tell him he had 1571 01:10:04,041 --> 01:10:06,874 to go to a show while he was in a hospital, really? 1572 01:10:06,916 --> 01:10:09,541 Come on, no, no, that's, no. 1573 01:10:10,666 --> 01:10:12,708 - He was like, "You need to, you know", 1574 01:10:12,750 --> 01:10:16,541 "get on a plane, and go to Finland, you got a gig." 1575 01:10:18,500 --> 01:10:20,541 I told Erick I was not fit enough 1576 01:10:20,583 --> 01:10:23,416 to go on the gig in Finland, 1577 01:10:25,625 --> 01:10:30,916 and he was insisting that I went on the gig. 1578 01:10:30,958 --> 01:10:33,541 - Basically Stuntman, you know, Stuntman, and, you know, 1579 01:10:33,583 --> 01:10:37,541 having to do shows every weekend became a chore, 1580 01:10:37,583 --> 01:10:39,208 and when you're making a lot of money, 1581 01:10:39,250 --> 01:10:42,166 and he was making a lot of money, sometimes you want to, 1582 01:10:42,208 --> 01:10:43,208 depending on what's going on in your life, 1583 01:10:43,250 --> 01:10:45,249 maybe one weekend, you may not want to go somewhere. 1584 01:10:45,291 --> 01:10:49,249 - Erick was insisting, persistently insisting 1585 01:10:49,291 --> 01:10:51,166 that I go on the gig, and I was like, 1586 01:10:51,208 --> 01:10:53,124 "Erick, I'm not going on the gig," 1587 01:10:53,166 --> 01:10:55,874 "I'm sick, I'm not going anywhere." 1588 01:10:55,916 --> 01:10:59,249 This was no plane fright, or no nothing, 1589 01:10:59,291 --> 01:11:02,416 it was, I'm sick, and I can't travel. 1590 01:11:02,458 --> 01:11:04,749 - And I don't like that, it's like, 1591 01:11:04,791 --> 01:11:07,333 if you're representing Reel 2 Real, 1592 01:11:07,375 --> 01:11:08,874 then you gotta go, and you gotta do it. 1593 01:11:08,916 --> 01:11:10,583 - So he was, like, getting really angry, 1594 01:11:10,625 --> 01:11:12,708 because words were going back and forth, 1595 01:11:12,750 --> 01:11:14,916 "Stuntman," it came to a point where he said, 1596 01:11:14,958 --> 01:11:18,791 "Stuntman, you better get on the flight," I'm like, better? 1597 01:11:18,833 --> 01:11:21,041 - But the problem is that, you know, 1598 01:11:21,583 --> 01:11:24,166 you know, it was, like, the name Reel 2 Real, 1599 01:11:24,208 --> 01:11:28,041 it wasn't just him, so whenever he was gonna miss a show, 1600 01:11:28,083 --> 01:11:30,374 it reflected on me, and I didn't like that. 1601 01:11:30,416 --> 01:11:33,291 So did we ever have a, "You better get on that plane," 1602 01:11:33,333 --> 01:11:35,583 kind of conversation, absolutely. 1603 01:11:35,625 --> 01:11:37,333 Did it ever come to, "I'm never gonna fucking work" 1604 01:11:37,375 --> 01:11:39,499 "with you again," no, I don't remember that, 1605 01:11:39,541 --> 01:11:41,958 never, never ever, ever, ever, ever. 1606 01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:43,499 - Better get on the flight, I'm like, 1607 01:11:43,541 --> 01:11:45,249 "Erick, I'm not going anywhere," 1608 01:11:45,291 --> 01:11:47,749 "I am sick, I'm not traveling." 1609 01:11:47,791 --> 01:11:49,249 - But that's not why we stopped working, 1610 01:11:49,291 --> 01:11:51,666 we, nothing happened that we stopped working, 1611 01:11:51,708 --> 01:11:54,208 it was, after the second album, you know, 1612 01:11:54,250 --> 01:11:56,249 he was doing shows, he was going out there, 1613 01:11:56,291 --> 01:11:59,708 and I just started doing my own thing, and that was that. 1614 01:11:59,750 --> 01:12:03,916 - At that time, words flew over the phone, 1615 01:12:03,958 --> 01:12:06,791 I was angry, and I told him that, 1616 01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:12,166 "I'm not going on the gig," and I told him 1617 01:12:12,208 --> 01:12:15,416 that, "Release me from my contract," 1618 01:12:15,458 --> 01:12:18,958 and I also wanted to be released from Strictly Rhythm. 1619 01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:22,749 - All that happened was that, when I created Subliminal, 1620 01:12:22,791 --> 01:12:24,624 that, you know, it became, like, 1621 01:12:24,666 --> 01:12:26,416 the biggest underground dance label, 1622 01:12:26,458 --> 01:12:29,458 and I was trying to reinvent who Erick Morillo was. 1623 01:12:29,500 --> 01:12:32,166 And Reel 2 Real was just very commercial, 1624 01:12:32,208 --> 01:12:34,499 so, for me, it was going against 1625 01:12:34,541 --> 01:12:37,333 what I was trying to do, that's what it was. 1626 01:12:37,375 --> 01:12:42,000 - Telling him that, he was like, "Stuntman, okay", 1627 01:12:43,375 --> 01:12:47,125 "I'll make sure that you never do a gig again in your life," 1628 01:12:48,208 --> 01:12:49,374 I'm like, "It is what it is", 1629 01:12:49,416 --> 01:12:52,166 "if that's what it is, no problem." 1630 01:12:52,208 --> 01:12:55,041 - I don't know why, why he would even think that, 1631 01:12:55,083 --> 01:12:56,624 I would never, if he was in the hospital, 1632 01:12:56,666 --> 01:12:58,583 if you're in the hospital, you're in the hospital. 1633 01:12:58,625 --> 01:13:00,958 But it wasn't one missed show, 1634 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,041 there were a few missed shows, you know, 1635 01:13:03,083 --> 01:13:05,666 either he left shit late, you know, there was a lot 1636 01:13:05,708 --> 01:13:08,583 of things that Stuntman maybe doesn't remember, 1637 01:13:08,625 --> 01:13:11,291 but there was no one action where I said, 1638 01:13:11,333 --> 01:13:12,999 "I'm never gonna work with you again," 1639 01:13:13,041 --> 01:13:14,583 'cause that never happened. 1640 01:13:14,625 --> 01:13:17,124 - At that time, you know, tears came out of my eye, 1641 01:13:17,166 --> 01:13:19,666 I couldn't believe he was saying these words to me, 1642 01:13:19,708 --> 01:13:21,749 and I'm sick, you know, I went home, 1643 01:13:21,791 --> 01:13:24,708 and, like, tell my family what was going on, 1644 01:13:24,750 --> 01:13:26,374 they didn't believe it, you know? 1645 01:13:26,416 --> 01:13:28,083 I mean, they believe it, but they didn't believe 1646 01:13:28,125 --> 01:13:31,166 that the words would come out of Erick's mouth. 1647 01:13:31,708 --> 01:13:35,500 - The funny part was that the limo company that he had used, 1648 01:13:36,875 --> 01:13:39,250 he would keep the limo parked outside his house, 1649 01:13:41,625 --> 01:13:45,166 was the company I used, so there wasn't a hospital, 1650 01:13:45,208 --> 01:13:47,583 okay, he was out with his friends, and what have you, 1651 01:13:47,625 --> 01:13:50,916 but it was what it was, 'cause I get reports, right, 1652 01:13:50,958 --> 01:13:52,874 'cause I, you know what I mean, yeah, it's like that. 1653 01:13:52,916 --> 01:13:55,874 So if that's what he said, you should film him again, 1654 01:13:55,916 --> 01:13:57,999 and tell him to maybe say something different, 1655 01:13:58,041 --> 01:14:00,124 but there was never, there was never any, 1656 01:14:00,166 --> 01:14:02,583 like, big argument between us. 1657 01:14:02,625 --> 01:14:05,291 You know, my whole thing was moving, I'm moving on, 1658 01:14:05,333 --> 01:14:08,166 you know, you're moving on, I'm going this way, 1659 01:14:08,208 --> 01:14:10,583 and you do what you want to do, it's cool. 1660 01:14:11,875 --> 01:14:15,500 - That's why me and Erick is not working together today. 1661 01:14:17,041 --> 01:14:18,001 (slow music) 1662 01:14:37,041 --> 01:14:39,333 Right now we're in Trinidad, Port of Spain, 1663 01:14:39,375 --> 01:14:41,374 I'm about to go check out Sonny Bling, 1664 01:14:41,416 --> 01:14:43,416 we're gonna go get this interview on, 1665 01:14:43,458 --> 01:14:44,749 you don't know what's going on 1666 01:14:44,791 --> 01:14:47,749 in Trinidad and Tobago larger, big up the whole world. 1667 01:14:47,791 --> 01:14:52,624 I came into Trinidad June 19, 2017, 1668 01:14:52,666 --> 01:14:56,374 smooth flight, trust me, it was a smooth flight, 1669 01:14:56,416 --> 01:14:59,166 a little thunderstorm and things we came into, 1670 01:14:59,208 --> 01:15:03,958 but hear what, I am here, the thunderstorm has gone, 1671 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,749 the thunderstorm has left the building, 1672 01:15:06,791 --> 01:15:08,791 and The Mad Stuntman running things right now. 1673 01:15:08,833 --> 01:15:11,874 So we in Port of Spain, Sonny Bling big up hisself, 1674 01:15:11,916 --> 01:15:15,416 Mtima, large up, you done know Mad Stuntman, 1675 01:15:15,458 --> 01:15:17,791 we are here in Trinidad right now 1676 01:15:17,833 --> 01:15:21,374 to shoot my ‘Gibberish’ song video. 1677 01:15:21,416 --> 01:15:22,376 (slow music) 1678 01:15:29,583 --> 01:15:33,541 (overlapping chatter) 1679 01:15:33,583 --> 01:15:36,374 ("I Like To Move It" by Reel 2 Real) 1680 01:15:36,416 --> 01:15:42,999 (background noise drowns out speaker) 1681 01:15:43,041 --> 01:15:44,583 ♪ Sonny likes to move it, move it ♪ 1682 01:15:44,625 --> 01:15:46,374 ♪ Sonny likes to move it, move it ♪ 1683 01:15:46,416 --> 01:15:48,249 ♪ Sonny likes to move it, move it ♪ 1684 01:15:48,291 --> 01:15:55,541 ♪ He likes to move it ♪ 1685 01:15:55,583 --> 01:15:58,791 (slow music) 1686 01:16:02,208 --> 01:16:05,666 You know, I've been going through some 1687 01:16:07,375 --> 01:16:08,791 deep, dark, 1688 01:16:11,500 --> 01:16:14,541 deep, dark problems with my family. 1689 01:16:16,791 --> 01:16:19,708 You know, I have a brother one year under me, 1690 01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,250 we grew up on, 1691 01:16:27,208 --> 01:16:31,374 in Brooklyn, Flatbush, you know, and, 1692 01:16:31,416 --> 01:16:34,416 you know, he was running with the wrong crowd at the time, 1693 01:16:35,250 --> 01:16:38,791 you know, we were teenagers, we was in our 20s, 30s, 1694 01:16:42,583 --> 01:16:49,375 really, in my 20s, just before I Like To Move It came out, 1695 01:16:49,958 --> 01:16:52,708 he was running with the wrong crowd, you know, 1696 01:16:53,833 --> 01:16:57,833 he was smoking, taking drugs, you know, 1697 01:16:58,958 --> 01:17:02,375 that, when that crack came out, that crack. 1698 01:17:04,333 --> 01:17:08,291 He was smoking it, and he would, you know, 1699 01:17:08,333 --> 01:17:11,458 steal, go around stealing, you know, 1700 01:17:11,500 --> 01:17:13,791 breaking open to cars, and whatnot, 1701 01:17:13,833 --> 01:17:18,583 stealing from home, my brother, Winston, 1702 01:17:18,625 --> 01:17:22,166 he, you know, run with the wrong crowd, 1703 01:17:22,208 --> 01:17:25,999 was taking drugs, and at a point in time, 1704 01:17:26,041 --> 01:17:29,374 he end up in the hospital, because he's smoking the crack 1705 01:17:29,416 --> 01:17:33,041 so much that a vessel in his, 1706 01:17:34,791 --> 01:17:38,333 in his head, you know, shattered, 1707 01:17:38,375 --> 01:17:40,499 and they had was 1708 01:17:40,541 --> 01:17:44,916 to take half his skull out, 1709 01:17:44,958 --> 01:17:46,125 you know, it was, 1710 01:17:51,500 --> 01:17:52,625 it was, 1711 01:17:56,916 --> 01:17:58,291 you know, at that, 1712 01:18:01,958 --> 01:18:04,041 to see your brother go through that, man. 1713 01:18:07,833 --> 01:18:11,708 It was crazy, he could have died, you know? 1714 01:18:16,583 --> 01:18:19,833 After that, things got worse, you know? 1715 01:18:19,875 --> 01:18:22,083 Things, I wasn't getting any shows. 1716 01:18:22,125 --> 01:18:23,999 - Listen, I never want anything but the best 1717 01:18:24,041 --> 01:18:26,624 for Stuntman, you know, in the beginning, you know, 1718 01:18:26,666 --> 01:18:28,208 like I said, I tried to manage him, 1719 01:18:28,250 --> 01:18:30,624 I tried to help him manage his money, 1720 01:18:30,666 --> 01:18:32,874 and I had to kind of do this, 1721 01:18:32,916 --> 01:18:35,708 because he was just all over the place. 1722 01:18:35,750 --> 01:18:38,291 - Things was just going downhill, me and him, 1723 01:18:38,333 --> 01:18:40,708 you know, it was time to, you know, 1724 01:18:40,750 --> 01:18:43,124 start collecting money, and whatever, 1725 01:18:43,166 --> 01:18:47,499 and it came to a point where I was to collect, 1726 01:18:47,541 --> 01:18:50,458 you know, royalties from him, where he, 1727 01:18:50,500 --> 01:18:53,833 which he pays me, you know, all payment goes to him, 1728 01:18:53,875 --> 01:18:56,124 not Strictly, it goes to him, it used 1729 01:18:56,166 --> 01:18:58,208 to go through Strictly, but because I was signed 1730 01:18:58,250 --> 01:19:00,208 to Erick through Strictly, 1731 01:19:00,250 --> 01:19:02,583 when Strictly pays Erick, he pays me. 1732 01:19:02,625 --> 01:19:04,708 - You know, I don't know about, you know, 1733 01:19:04,750 --> 01:19:08,333 I think that, at some point, you know, 1734 01:19:08,375 --> 01:19:10,708 he became, like, he started thinking 1735 01:19:10,750 --> 01:19:13,874 that maybe I was, like, ripping him off. 1736 01:19:13,916 --> 01:19:15,249 He started thinking things like that, 1737 01:19:15,291 --> 01:19:18,499 and he started, he was calling, like, 1738 01:19:18,541 --> 01:19:20,916 my sister saying, "I know, blah blah blah," 1739 01:19:20,958 --> 01:19:22,416 and it's like, why are you doing that? 1740 01:19:22,458 --> 01:19:25,916 - We had, you know, problems, you know, 1741 01:19:25,958 --> 01:19:29,124 heated problems, you know, I, you know, 1742 01:19:29,166 --> 01:19:32,500 cursed at him, tell him the worst, 1743 01:19:33,666 --> 01:19:36,583 tell him the worst words that I never use before, 1744 01:19:36,625 --> 01:19:41,625 just being angry, you know, not being able to think. 1745 01:19:41,708 --> 01:19:45,166 I mean, I was able to think, but at that time, 1746 01:19:45,208 --> 01:19:46,791 I was angry. 1747 01:19:46,833 --> 01:19:48,333 - I got, I don't bring any of this stuff up, 1748 01:19:48,375 --> 01:19:49,874 but if he really went there with you, 1749 01:19:49,916 --> 01:19:51,458 I'm happy to have these conversations, 1750 01:19:51,500 --> 01:19:53,833 my memory is very clear, to the point 1751 01:19:53,875 --> 01:19:56,541 where he showed up one time with guns, 1752 01:19:56,583 --> 01:19:58,999 oh, yeah, he didn't mention that part, did he, right? 1753 01:19:59,041 --> 01:20:01,833 Oh, he did, oh, good, all right, great, good, good, good. 1754 01:20:01,875 --> 01:20:04,833 All right, you know, and it, that became a situation 1755 01:20:04,875 --> 01:20:06,624 where it's like, what are you talking about, 1756 01:20:06,666 --> 01:20:08,416 like, if you really want to know where your money went, 1757 01:20:08,458 --> 01:20:11,458 I'm more than happy, you can go to Strictly Rhythm. 1758 01:20:11,500 --> 01:20:14,041 They account to me, I account to you, 1759 01:20:14,083 --> 01:20:16,624 I don't do any accounting, you know, 1760 01:20:16,666 --> 01:20:19,124 and I trust them, so go, and he would go, 1761 01:20:19,166 --> 01:20:20,333 and talk to Mark Bluser, who was the account 1762 01:20:20,375 --> 01:20:22,833 for Strictly Rhythm, the books, you know, 1763 01:20:22,875 --> 01:20:23,874 the good thing about Strictly Rhythm is 1764 01:20:23,916 --> 01:20:25,374 that they kept all the books right there. 1765 01:20:25,416 --> 01:20:27,791 So you can go and see what is going on, 1766 01:20:27,833 --> 01:20:28,666 and, you know, what's going on. 1767 01:20:28,708 --> 01:20:31,666 As far as shows, he had to sign the contracts, 1768 01:20:31,708 --> 01:20:33,791 so he knows 'em when he was going in, 1769 01:20:33,833 --> 01:20:36,083 so it was never an issue, the problem became 1770 01:20:36,125 --> 01:20:39,124 that he saw me, you know, I was going out 1771 01:20:39,166 --> 01:20:42,583 on the road, DJing, and he just thought maybe 1772 01:20:42,625 --> 01:20:45,791 that I was, I built my stuff off of his back. 1773 01:20:45,833 --> 01:20:48,083 I really don't know what, but I know 1774 01:20:48,125 --> 01:20:49,833 that when you're struggling, you start 1775 01:20:49,875 --> 01:20:52,666 to look for answers that aren't there. 1776 01:20:52,708 --> 01:20:56,541 - It was a time where I went to pick my check up, 1777 01:20:57,583 --> 01:21:01,458 I mean, I could have done Erick anything, 1778 01:21:01,500 --> 01:21:02,708 you understand, because with the things 1779 01:21:02,750 --> 01:21:06,124 that are going through my head, you know? 1780 01:21:06,166 --> 01:21:09,083 Having a gun, I would not even display a gun, 1781 01:21:09,125 --> 01:21:12,124 having a gun, to go and get my money, 1782 01:21:12,166 --> 01:21:15,208 it came to my head, if I had a gun, 1783 01:21:15,250 --> 01:21:16,874 I probably could have done him this, 1784 01:21:16,916 --> 01:21:20,541 and could have did him that, but what is the sense, 1785 01:21:20,583 --> 01:21:25,083 having a gun, and shooting Erick, and killing him, 1786 01:21:25,125 --> 01:21:29,041 how would I get paid, that's not making no sense, 1787 01:21:29,083 --> 01:21:31,833 or hurting him, I was just angry enough 1788 01:21:31,875 --> 01:21:35,291 to go to the studio, and scream to my fucking lungs, 1789 01:21:35,333 --> 01:21:37,458 and tell Erick, "Give me my money", 1790 01:21:37,500 --> 01:21:39,833 "and let me go my business, you don't have" 1791 01:21:39,875 --> 01:21:42,166 "to see me again, once you pay me," 1792 01:21:42,208 --> 01:21:44,458 "you don't have to ever see me again." 1793 01:21:44,500 --> 01:21:46,875 That's the whole point, I don't need a gun, 1794 01:21:48,041 --> 01:21:50,999 thinking about having a gun, yes, 1795 01:21:51,041 --> 01:21:54,916 actually having a gun, no, because I'm not that type 1796 01:21:54,958 --> 01:21:56,749 of person, anybody could tell you, 1797 01:21:56,791 --> 01:21:59,583 I'm not a gangster, I'm not a gangster. 1798 01:22:02,333 --> 01:22:05,750 The show today's called Mega Jam 2017, 1799 01:22:06,875 --> 01:22:10,749 this is going down in Long Island, Farmingville, 1800 01:22:10,791 --> 01:22:15,250 you know, it's going down at the Pennysaver Amphitheater. 1801 01:22:16,125 --> 01:22:20,833 Performing is gonna be Sean Paul, Charley Black, 1802 01:22:21,750 --> 01:22:23,041 Nina Sky, 1803 01:22:25,416 --> 01:22:27,000 Lucas Prata, 1804 01:22:27,791 --> 01:22:30,041 Fascination, Soave, 1805 01:22:30,125 --> 01:22:34,125 Nice & Smooth, Kevin Lyttle, Serani, 1806 01:22:35,041 --> 01:22:36,708 myself, 1807 01:22:36,750 --> 01:22:39,999 you already know the Move It man is gonna be on deck, 1808 01:22:40,041 --> 01:22:44,583 and it's gonna be host by Ed Lover And Monie Love, you know? 1809 01:22:44,625 --> 01:22:48,958 To me, I like, I like, according to how long is my set, 1810 01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:51,666 if I'm doing a 10 minute set, 1811 01:22:51,708 --> 01:22:54,499 I will definitely do I Like To Move It last, you know, 1812 01:22:54,541 --> 01:22:57,541 I would give them something that they would remember, 1813 01:22:57,583 --> 01:23:00,666 you know, and give them a piece of acapella of it, you know, 1814 01:23:00,708 --> 01:23:03,999 get the hype, and then I would go into the song, you know? 1815 01:23:04,041 --> 01:23:06,541 But if it's like a 20 minute, or 30 minutes, 1816 01:23:06,583 --> 01:23:08,833 or 45 minute set, you know, 1817 01:23:08,875 --> 01:23:11,083 I definitely save I Like To Move It for last, 1818 01:23:11,125 --> 01:23:13,458 and in between, I give 'em a little hype 1819 01:23:13,500 --> 01:23:16,583 of I Like To Move It Move It, you know, and get them, 1820 01:23:16,625 --> 01:23:19,416 you know, get the energy out there. 1821 01:23:19,458 --> 01:23:27,458 (slow ambient music) 1822 01:23:41,916 --> 01:23:46,291 Oh, shit, damn, this shit remind me when I was, 1823 01:23:47,208 --> 01:23:49,791 shit, I wasn't even famous yet, 1824 01:23:49,833 --> 01:23:53,874 I remember those days, nothing, nothing in my fridge, 1825 01:23:53,916 --> 01:23:58,124 nothing to eat, starving like a mo, you understand? 1826 01:23:58,166 --> 01:24:00,083 - [Man] It is ice and cold air. 1827 01:24:00,125 --> 01:24:05,125 - Ice and cold air, man, you know, we be thirsty. (laughs) 1828 01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:10,708 You already know the saying, (laughs) 1829 01:24:10,750 --> 01:24:16,416 it's crazy, man, those days, I remember those days good, 1830 01:24:16,583 --> 01:24:18,000 I don't forget them days. 1831 01:24:19,875 --> 01:24:22,916 ♪ I don't know, but I just can tell ♪ 1832 01:24:22,958 --> 01:24:26,208 ♪ Why some girls all them nice to well ♪ 1833 01:24:26,250 --> 01:24:30,166 ♪ I don't know, but I just can't tell ♪ 1834 01:24:30,208 --> 01:24:32,958 ♪ Why some girls all like them nice to wear ♪ 1835 01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:35,666 ♪ Some girls want expensive ♪ 1836 01:24:35,708 --> 01:24:39,124 ♪ And them a shopping at Conway ♪ 1837 01:24:39,166 --> 01:24:41,583 ♪ Some girls want expensive ♪ 1838 01:24:41,625 --> 01:24:45,708 ♪ And them a shopping at Conway ♪ 1839 01:24:45,750 --> 01:24:50,250 ♪ Monday, Tuesday, going to Conway ♪ 1840 01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:54,583 ♪ More sound, sounds sweet ♪ 1841 01:24:54,625 --> 01:24:58,708 ♪ (mumbles) sounds, sounds sweet, so sweet ♪ 1842 01:24:58,750 --> 01:24:59,541 ♪ Girl, you never know what's ♪ 1843 01:24:59,583 --> 01:25:00,583 ♪ So I'm never let you go ♪ 1844 01:25:00,625 --> 01:25:02,416 ♪ S-O, S-O, me say that ah so-so ♪ 1845 01:25:02,458 --> 01:25:03,458 ♪ Y-O, Y-O, me say ♪ 1846 01:25:03,500 --> 01:25:04,374 ♪ Yo, Yo ♪ 1847 01:25:04,416 --> 01:25:05,416 ♪ Try go low ♪ 1848 01:25:05,458 --> 01:25:06,249 ♪ Low, low ♪ 1849 01:25:06,291 --> 01:25:07,958 (both laugh) 1850 01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:11,124 (overlapping chatter) 1851 01:25:11,166 --> 01:25:16,750 (both laugh) 1852 01:25:17,041 --> 01:25:18,291 - I lo. - Yeah. 1853 01:25:19,208 --> 01:25:21,041 - I lo, lo, lo, hello. 1854 01:25:22,458 --> 01:25:25,166 - High lo, low lo, silo. 1855 01:25:25,416 --> 01:25:27,208 (both laugh) 1856 01:25:27,250 --> 01:25:35,250 (slow piano music) 1857 01:26:07,125 --> 01:26:07,916 ♪ Move it ♪ 1858 01:26:07,958 --> 01:26:09,583 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 1859 01:26:09,625 --> 01:26:11,666 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 1860 01:26:11,708 --> 01:26:13,624 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 1861 01:26:13,666 --> 01:26:15,624 ♪ You like to move it ♪ 1862 01:26:15,666 --> 01:26:17,624 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 1863 01:26:17,666 --> 01:26:19,583 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 1864 01:26:19,625 --> 01:26:21,499 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 1865 01:26:21,541 --> 01:26:23,374 ♪ You like to move it ♪ 1866 01:26:23,416 --> 01:26:24,625 And I always 1867 01:26:25,875 --> 01:26:27,583 smile. 1868 01:26:27,625 --> 01:26:33,499 (slow piano music) 1869 01:26:33,541 --> 01:26:35,999 I always smile, you will never know 1870 01:26:36,041 --> 01:26:37,333 that I'm going through a problem, 1871 01:26:37,375 --> 01:26:39,958 you would ever, never know I'm going through a problem, 1872 01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:43,125 'cause I'm always happy in front of the camera, 1873 01:26:43,958 --> 01:26:47,166 I'm always in happy in front of your face, 1874 01:26:47,208 --> 01:26:49,875 but I keep all of this thing inside of me. 1875 01:26:50,833 --> 01:26:54,499 Sometimes I just, I thought about suicide 1876 01:26:54,541 --> 01:26:56,583 so many times, man. 1877 01:26:56,625 --> 01:26:59,541 (slow piano music) 1878 01:27:05,291 --> 01:27:10,041 I thought about just taking my life out, just, 1879 01:27:12,541 --> 01:27:16,833 no one ever knew, just me, you know? 1880 01:27:16,875 --> 01:27:17,708 Just 1881 01:27:19,208 --> 01:27:21,916 thought of it, try, 1882 01:27:23,125 --> 01:27:23,958 but that hurts, 1883 01:27:25,500 --> 01:27:29,000 I put a rope around my neck one time, and tried to 1884 01:27:32,166 --> 01:27:33,416 hang myself, 1885 01:27:37,125 --> 01:27:41,374 and when that rope pulled, it was hurting so much, 1886 01:27:41,416 --> 01:27:44,624 I couldn't do it, I couldn't do it. 1887 01:27:44,666 --> 01:27:47,124 I said, "What am I doing, I got so much to live for," 1888 01:27:47,166 --> 01:27:49,083 what about my kids, what about my mom? 1889 01:27:49,125 --> 01:27:53,208 I would have my mom suffer, I can't do it, 1890 01:27:54,166 --> 01:27:56,625 I can't do it, you know? 1891 01:27:58,833 --> 01:28:01,208 It just, reality hits, it's. 1892 01:28:02,333 --> 01:28:10,333 (slow piano music) 1893 01:28:19,583 --> 01:28:20,625 Is the 1894 01:28:22,083 --> 01:28:26,666 part of me that my fans never knew. 1895 01:28:27,833 --> 01:28:29,666 I mean, everyone got problems. 1896 01:28:30,625 --> 01:28:37,000 (slow piano music) 1897 01:28:37,208 --> 01:28:40,916 Everyone got problems, man, it's how you gonna deal 1898 01:28:40,958 --> 01:28:44,125 with your problem, how you gonna deal with it? 1899 01:28:48,250 --> 01:28:51,333 There's a time period where no checks was coming 1900 01:28:51,375 --> 01:28:54,458 in at all, no money was coming in at all, I don't know why. 1901 01:28:54,500 --> 01:28:55,666 - And then 1902 01:28:56,958 --> 01:29:00,208 DreamWorks came along with Madagascar, 1903 01:29:01,208 --> 01:29:03,041 I mean, who the hell saw that coming? 1904 01:29:03,083 --> 01:29:05,666 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 1905 01:29:05,708 --> 01:29:07,333 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 1906 01:29:07,375 --> 01:29:09,249 ♪ You like to move it ♪ 1907 01:29:09,291 --> 01:29:11,124 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 1908 01:29:11,166 --> 01:29:13,208 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 1909 01:29:13,250 --> 01:29:18,708 - When I actually heard about the Madagascar cartoon movie, 1910 01:29:19,291 --> 01:29:22,916 I was excited, I was like, a cartoon movie? 1911 01:29:23,458 --> 01:29:25,583 I couldn't believe it, I had us 1912 01:29:25,625 --> 01:29:29,499 to go to the movie theater, actual movie theater 1913 01:29:29,541 --> 01:29:32,499 with people, and go see it in my neighborhood, 1914 01:29:32,541 --> 01:29:35,708 and sat down there quietly, looking at the movie, 1915 01:29:36,291 --> 01:29:37,958 because I saw a preview 1916 01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:40,041 with them singing I Like To Move It Move It. 1917 01:29:40,083 --> 01:29:43,916 I couldn't believe someone actually caught the words 1918 01:29:43,958 --> 01:29:46,958 of I Like To Move It, I'm like, Sacha Baron, 1919 01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:48,749 okay, I know of him, you know, 1920 01:29:48,791 --> 01:29:50,708 let me go check the movie out, sit down, 1921 01:29:50,750 --> 01:29:53,458 watch the movie, and that part came out, 1922 01:29:53,500 --> 01:29:56,166 where they're, they're like that, 1923 01:29:56,208 --> 01:30:00,249 and the lemurs started singing, King Julien started, 1924 01:30:00,291 --> 01:30:03,666 "I like to move it, move it," it took me by surprise. 1925 01:30:03,708 --> 01:30:06,999 I stood there quietly, no one knew, 1926 01:30:07,041 --> 01:30:09,166 you know, of me being in the movie theater or whatever, 1927 01:30:09,208 --> 01:30:12,249 but I didn't go there to let people know who I was, 1928 01:30:12,291 --> 01:30:15,791 you know, and sang the song, 1929 01:30:16,791 --> 01:30:19,958 know the words, and I'm like, 1930 01:30:20,916 --> 01:30:25,791 dumbfounded, I'm like, "Wow," couldn't believe it. 1931 01:30:25,833 --> 01:30:27,791 - First of all, I was surprised, and second of all, again, 1932 01:30:27,833 --> 01:30:29,499 things that he doesn't even know, probably, 1933 01:30:29,541 --> 01:30:32,583 but we kind of had DreamWorks by the balls a little bit, 1934 01:30:32,625 --> 01:30:36,708 because at the time, they licensed a record, 1935 01:30:36,750 --> 01:30:38,374 thinking it was another record, 1936 01:30:38,416 --> 01:30:40,041 so they made the wrong license. 1937 01:30:40,083 --> 01:30:42,999 So by the time it got to us, I already knew, 1938 01:30:43,041 --> 01:30:45,666 they already had drawn, because I have a friend who kind 1939 01:30:45,708 --> 01:30:48,291 of had clued me in on what was going on. 1940 01:30:49,291 --> 01:30:51,374 So we kind of knew we had them by the balls, 1941 01:30:51,416 --> 01:30:55,291 because we were like, "Either pay us what we want, 1942 01:30:55,333 --> 01:30:57,874 "or go fuck yourself," basically. 1943 01:30:57,916 --> 01:30:59,874 Sorry, the DreamWorks, but, you know, 1944 01:30:59,916 --> 01:31:01,541 it didn't matter, at first, they told us, 1945 01:31:01,583 --> 01:31:04,624 after we made that deal that they would never work 1946 01:31:04,666 --> 01:31:07,874 with us again, that they had never, they were insulted 1947 01:31:07,916 --> 01:31:10,458 that we blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, all right? 1948 01:31:10,500 --> 01:31:13,958 Movie comes out, and that song made the movie, 1949 01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,583 literally made the movie, 1950 01:31:16,625 --> 01:31:18,833 all the kids went absolutely crazy, to the point 1951 01:31:18,875 --> 01:31:21,208 where they came back for the second, and third movie. 1952 01:31:21,250 --> 01:31:23,958 - But then when they was saying some of the words, 1953 01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:26,333 "nice and sweet and sassy," I'm like, 1954 01:31:26,375 --> 01:31:29,874 I didn't say "sassy," I said "sexy," 1955 01:31:29,916 --> 01:31:32,833 but I get to understand what was going on, 1956 01:31:32,875 --> 01:31:36,916 I'm like, wow, this guy hit it to the T. 1957 01:31:38,500 --> 01:31:41,791 And I never met him in person, but I'm like, 1958 01:31:41,833 --> 01:31:46,333 wow, that's my song, I wrote that. 1959 01:31:46,375 --> 01:31:48,083 And to sit down and watch the cartoon, 1960 01:31:48,125 --> 01:31:49,999 it was like watching something real, 1961 01:31:50,041 --> 01:31:55,041 I'm like, damn, that's good, I was happy. 1962 01:31:55,333 --> 01:31:57,416 - But the DreamWorks really, what it did 1963 01:31:57,458 --> 01:32:01,083 for us was introduce it to a new generation, 1964 01:32:01,125 --> 01:32:03,916 and to advertisers, after that, 1965 01:32:03,958 --> 01:32:05,749 we got deals with Burger King, McDonald's, 1966 01:32:05,791 --> 01:32:10,041 this, that, the other, the record was just making money, 1967 01:32:10,083 --> 01:32:15,500 you know, from that, and it really gave it a second life. 1968 01:32:15,583 --> 01:32:17,958 - And then when I found out, I, you know, called Erick, 1969 01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:20,833 I was like, "Yo, Erick, there's a movie coming out", 1970 01:32:20,875 --> 01:32:23,916 "Madagascar, what's going on?" 1971 01:32:23,958 --> 01:32:25,583 He was like, "Oh, yeah, Stuntman", 1972 01:32:25,625 --> 01:32:29,583 "we made a deal, and, you know, XYZ, and blah, blah, blah," 1973 01:32:29,625 --> 01:32:31,416 and, you know, that's why I'll be able to, 1974 01:32:31,458 --> 01:32:33,958 you know, get my money and everything like that, 1975 01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:36,916 you know, that's how I know that me and Erick, you know, 1976 01:32:36,958 --> 01:32:40,833 we started, the relationship started coming back a little. 1977 01:32:40,875 --> 01:32:43,583 - So, you know, this entire 1978 01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:46,416 Quashie ride, 1979 01:32:46,458 --> 01:32:48,749 because, you know, without him, 1980 01:32:48,791 --> 01:32:50,708 that record would not be, you know, 1981 01:32:50,750 --> 01:32:52,333 I made the music, but really, 1982 01:32:52,375 --> 01:32:53,874 he was the life of that record, 1983 01:32:53,916 --> 01:32:58,124 he was the voice, he was, and he always will, 1984 01:32:58,166 --> 01:33:01,041 you know, and he continued to kind of grow as that. 1985 01:33:01,083 --> 01:33:04,124 So, you know, it's just great that I was able 1986 01:33:04,166 --> 01:33:05,958 to meet someone like him, 1987 01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:08,666 and to have someone who has integrity like he does, 1988 01:33:08,708 --> 01:33:12,416 and to work as hard as he has, you know, and even til today, 1989 01:33:12,458 --> 01:33:15,416 you know, he's hard working, out there, 1990 01:33:15,458 --> 01:33:18,499 trying to make things happen, and, you know, he's that guy. 1991 01:33:18,541 --> 01:33:22,333 So I'm glad to have been part of it, 1992 01:33:22,375 --> 01:33:26,749 to have helped him, and to have just enjoyed this ride 1993 01:33:26,791 --> 01:33:30,583 that now has gone on for 25 years. 1994 01:33:30,625 --> 01:33:38,625 (slow piano music) 1995 01:33:44,750 --> 01:33:45,710 (slow music) 1996 01:34:39,375 --> 01:34:42,166 - My mom, she caught a stroke, 1997 01:34:44,041 --> 01:34:45,500 she caught two strokes, 1998 01:34:48,333 --> 01:34:50,125 paralyzed on the right side, 1999 01:34:51,500 --> 01:34:53,250 she's not being able to talk. 2000 01:34:54,833 --> 01:34:57,874 My sister, who's a nurse in Florida, 2001 01:34:57,916 --> 01:35:01,333 you know, is by her side every day, 2002 01:35:01,375 --> 01:35:07,250 and to actually see my mom laying in the bed, can't speak, 2003 01:35:08,083 --> 01:35:09,666 it's just, 2004 01:35:10,500 --> 01:35:12,625 it hurts my heart. 2005 01:35:13,958 --> 01:35:16,208 It hurts my heart, when I say hurt, 2006 01:35:17,583 --> 01:35:21,875 I'm devastated, 'cause I don't know when she's gonna talk. 2007 01:35:23,208 --> 01:35:26,499 I don't know when she's gonna, her eyes is wide open, 2008 01:35:26,541 --> 01:35:29,749 she, when you talk to her, she would, 2009 01:35:29,791 --> 01:35:33,499 you know, squeeze your hands, when she would just stare 2010 01:35:33,541 --> 01:35:35,375 at you, and not blink, 2011 01:35:37,166 --> 01:35:39,958 it hurts so, so much. 2012 01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:42,749 It hurts so much, you know, I would hate 2013 01:35:42,791 --> 01:35:45,374 that I would be in a different country, 2014 01:35:45,416 --> 01:35:48,291 and to hear the sad news of my mom, 2015 01:35:48,333 --> 01:35:50,958 you know, and not being able to reach, 2016 01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,374 you know, I want to be there to reach out, 2017 01:35:53,416 --> 01:35:55,083 I want to be there to hug her, 2018 01:35:55,125 --> 01:35:57,291 I want to be there, laying next to her, 2019 01:35:57,333 --> 01:35:58,999 I would not want to leave the hospital, 2020 01:35:59,041 --> 01:36:01,833 I would not want to leave the home that she's in. 2021 01:36:02,333 --> 01:36:04,749 And she's getting there, I want to be there, 2022 01:36:04,791 --> 01:36:07,041 I want to be there, to see that moment, 2023 01:36:07,083 --> 01:36:08,458 I want to be there to see that moment 2024 01:36:08,500 --> 01:36:11,124 that she'd smile at me, I want to be there at 2025 01:36:11,166 --> 01:36:14,333 that moment that she say one word to me, 2026 01:36:14,375 --> 01:36:16,666 something, you know, I want to be there. 2027 01:36:16,708 --> 01:36:19,208 Everyone else is there, except me, 2028 01:36:19,250 --> 01:36:21,999 I want to be there, you understand? 2029 01:36:22,041 --> 01:36:24,833 I want to be there, and I'm gonna be there, 2030 01:36:24,875 --> 01:36:27,749 I'm gonna be there, Mom, I'm coming, 2031 01:36:27,791 --> 01:36:32,249 I'm coming, I'm gonna be there, I'm gonna be there, 2032 01:36:32,291 --> 01:36:34,958 I promise you, I'm gonna be there, 2033 01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:37,041 I promise you, I'm gonna be there. 2034 01:36:37,958 --> 01:36:38,918 (slow music) 2035 01:36:55,833 --> 01:36:57,458 (Laughter) 2036 01:36:57,500 --> 01:36:59,499 - Listen, I told him, though... 2037 01:36:59,541 --> 01:37:01,749 - Thanks a lot, man, I appreciate it, 2038 01:37:01,791 --> 01:37:02,958 thanks, coming back, man. 2039 01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:04,708 - Listen, what he need to do... - This a true guy, man. 2040 01:37:04,750 --> 01:37:08,166 - Is take his experience, and get them young kids out now, 2041 01:37:08,208 --> 01:37:11,249 he needs to make them, let them know, listen, man, 2042 01:37:11,291 --> 01:37:13,583 I ain't gonna have you go through what I went through. 2043 01:37:17,041 --> 01:37:21,416 - 22 years in the making, almost 24 years 2044 01:37:22,166 --> 01:37:24,458 in the making of I Like To Move It Move It, 2045 01:37:26,416 --> 01:37:30,916 I would never, ever knew the world is still moving it, 2046 01:37:30,958 --> 01:37:36,500 moving it right now, and my greatest thing, right now, my, 2047 01:37:37,166 --> 01:37:42,916 what would make me, like, so, so happy right now is to 2048 01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:51,000 bond whatever happened between Erick Morillo and myself. 2049 01:37:54,208 --> 01:37:57,458 I never apologized to him, ever since 2050 01:37:57,500 --> 01:38:02,166 that situation occurred, I never, ever apologized to him, 2051 01:38:03,208 --> 01:38:05,541 and I want to get that opportunity 2052 01:38:07,250 --> 01:38:08,083 to 2053 01:38:10,166 --> 01:38:12,041 Make that bond with him. 2054 01:38:13,500 --> 01:38:15,541 Yes, I miss him, 2055 01:38:16,583 --> 01:38:20,750 I'm a man, I'm a man to say I miss him, 2056 01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,041 because we've been like two peas 2057 01:38:24,083 --> 01:38:27,624 in a pod, working in the studio, you know? 2058 01:38:27,666 --> 01:38:30,499 That's a great producer, he's a great producer, 2059 01:38:30,541 --> 01:38:33,375 everyone goes through their little problems. 2060 01:38:33,833 --> 01:38:37,833 - Yeah, 'cause, you know, sometimes, 2061 01:38:37,875 --> 01:38:40,000 you know what it was, it was that, 2062 01:38:41,333 --> 01:38:43,083 and it's not your fault at all, 2063 01:38:43,125 --> 01:38:47,541 what it was was that we didn't think working every weekend, 2064 01:38:47,875 --> 01:38:51,791 going on a plane every weekend would be as taxing as it was, 2065 01:38:51,833 --> 01:38:54,791 right, and I stopped traveling, and I started focusing 2066 01:38:54,833 --> 01:38:58,083 on being in the studio, and he was on a plane every weekend, 2067 01:38:58,125 --> 01:38:59,749 and, you know, they say, "Hey, you want" 2068 01:38:59,791 --> 01:39:01,416 "to do these shows in Germany, you know," 2069 01:39:01,458 --> 01:39:03,166 "three months from now, and in the following week," 2070 01:39:03,208 --> 01:39:05,291 and you see the money, and you're like, "Yeah!" 2071 01:39:05,333 --> 01:39:08,374 But when you're, when your body just can't, 2072 01:39:08,416 --> 01:39:10,166 and that was the problem, the problem was, 2073 01:39:10,208 --> 01:39:11,916 and I probably I take responsibility for that, 2074 01:39:11,958 --> 01:39:14,166 by the way, now that I look back. 2075 01:39:14,208 --> 01:39:19,083 Now, knowing what I know, I should have helped you manage 2076 01:39:19,125 --> 01:39:20,624 that, you know, you should take a weekend off, 2077 01:39:20,666 --> 01:39:21,833 so you can spend time with your friends, 2078 01:39:21,875 --> 01:39:23,624 spend time with your, you know, the family. 2079 01:39:23,666 --> 01:39:24,958 And we never did that, we just... 2080 01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:26,749 - [Mark] We was just going, going... 2081 01:39:26,791 --> 01:39:27,749 - Like me, 'cause, you know, I grew up poor, 2082 01:39:27,791 --> 01:39:29,874 I grew up poor, and you don't say no, 2083 01:39:29,916 --> 01:39:33,499 you don't say no to money, you say, "Yes, yes, yes, yes." 2084 01:39:33,541 --> 01:39:35,874 And then, you know, he started becoming tired, 2085 01:39:35,916 --> 01:39:37,791 and, you know, and I, you know, 2086 01:39:37,833 --> 01:39:40,124 now I look back, and I realize that, 2087 01:39:40,166 --> 01:39:43,624 dude, you, you were fucking a machine, 2088 01:39:43,666 --> 01:39:46,541 brother, you were the shit. 2089 01:39:48,208 --> 01:39:50,124 All right, it's time to go, I love you. 2090 01:39:50,166 --> 01:39:52,166 - [Mark] Have a safe trip, all right? 2091 01:39:52,208 --> 01:40:00,208 (slow piano music) 2092 01:40:42,458 --> 01:40:45,249 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 2093 01:40:45,291 --> 01:40:48,249 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 2094 01:40:48,291 --> 01:40:51,208 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 2095 01:40:51,250 --> 01:40:54,208 ♪ You like to move it ♪ 2096 01:40:54,250 --> 01:40:57,249 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 2097 01:40:57,291 --> 01:41:00,249 ♪ You like to move it, move it ♪ 2098 01:41:00,291 --> 01:41:03,333 ♪ We like to move it, move it ♪ 2099 01:41:03,375 --> 01:41:08,375 ♪ I like to move it ♪ 2100 01:41:09,375 --> 01:41:11,958 ♪ One, two, three, four ♪ 2101 01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:13,791 ♪ Move it, move it ♪ 2102 01:41:13,833 --> 01:41:15,916 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 2103 01:41:15,958 --> 01:41:18,291 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 2104 01:41:18,333 --> 01:41:20,666 ♪ I like to move it ♪ 2105 01:41:20,708 --> 01:41:23,041 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 2106 01:41:23,083 --> 01:41:25,374 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 2107 01:41:25,416 --> 01:41:27,833 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 2108 01:41:27,875 --> 01:41:29,999 ♪ You like to move it ♪ 2109 01:41:30,041 --> 01:41:31,958 ♪ Woman, you're cute, and you don't need no makeup ♪ 2110 01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:34,291 ♪ Original cute body, you will make man mud up ♪ 2111 01:41:34,333 --> 01:41:36,749 ♪ Woman, you're cute, and you don't need no makeup ♪ 2112 01:41:36,791 --> 01:41:38,958 ♪ Original cute body, you will make man mud up ♪ 2113 01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:41,833 ♪ Woman, you're physically fit, physically fit ♪ 2114 01:41:41,875 --> 01:41:43,833 ♪ Physically, physically, physically ♪ 2115 01:41:43,875 --> 01:41:45,541 ♪ Hey, sure, you're physically fit ♪ 2116 01:41:45,583 --> 01:41:48,916 ♪ Physically fit, physically, physically, physically ♪ 2117 01:41:48,958 --> 01:41:51,666 ♪ Woman, you're nice, you're sweet, you're fantastic ♪ 2118 01:41:51,708 --> 01:41:53,624 ♪ Big ship upon the ocean, that a big Titanic ♪ 2119 01:41:53,666 --> 01:41:56,416 ♪ Woman, you're nice, you're sweet, you energetic ♪ 2120 01:41:56,458 --> 01:41:58,458 ♪ Big ship on the ocean, that a big Titanic ♪ 2121 01:41:58,500 --> 01:42:01,291 ♪ Woman, you're nice, you're sweet, you're fantastic ♪ 2122 01:42:01,333 --> 01:42:03,249 ♪ Big ship on the ocean, that a big Titanic ♪ 2123 01:42:03,291 --> 01:42:06,249 ♪ Woman, you're nice, you're sweet, you're energetic ♪ 2124 01:42:06,291 --> 01:42:08,958 ♪ Big ship on the ocean, that a big Titanic ♪ 2125 01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:11,458 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 2126 01:42:11,500 --> 01:42:13,958 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 2127 01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:16,458 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 2128 01:42:16,500 --> 01:42:18,999 ♪ You like to move it ♪ 2129 01:42:19,041 --> 01:42:21,541 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 2130 01:42:21,583 --> 01:42:24,083 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 2131 01:42:24,125 --> 01:42:26,583 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 2132 01:42:26,625 --> 01:42:28,874 ♪ You like to move it ♪ 2133 01:42:28,916 --> 01:42:30,916 ♪ Eyeliner upon your face, that make man mud up ♪ 2134 01:42:30,958 --> 01:42:33,416 ♪ Nose powder upon your face, that make man mud up ♪ 2135 01:42:33,458 --> 01:42:35,916 ♪ Pluck your eyebrow upon your face, that make man mud up ♪ 2136 01:42:35,958 --> 01:42:38,541 ♪ Got your lipstick upon your face, that make man ♪ 2137 01:42:38,583 --> 01:42:40,041 ♪ Woman, your nice, broad face ♪ 2138 01:42:40,083 --> 01:42:41,291 ♪ And your nice hip ♪ 2139 01:42:41,333 --> 01:42:43,624 ♪ Make man flip and most of them lift ♪ 2140 01:42:43,666 --> 01:42:46,291 ♪ Woman, you're nice, and you're energetic ♪ 2141 01:42:46,333 --> 01:42:48,416 ♪ Big ship on the ocean, that a big Titanic ♪ 2142 01:42:48,458 --> 01:42:50,124 ♪ Woman, your nice, broad face ♪ 2143 01:42:50,166 --> 01:42:51,458 ♪ And your nice hip ♪ 2144 01:42:51,500 --> 01:42:54,083 ♪ Make man flip, and most of them lip ♪ 2145 01:42:54,125 --> 01:42:56,416 ♪ Woman, you're nice, and you're energetic ♪ 2146 01:42:56,458 --> 01:42:59,291 You come sing along right now, hey! 2147 01:42:59,333 --> 01:43:01,958 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 2148 01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:04,541 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 2149 01:43:04,583 --> 01:43:07,083 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 2150 01:43:07,125 --> 01:43:09,666 ♪ You like to move it ♪ 2151 01:43:09,708 --> 01:43:12,333 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 2152 01:43:12,375 --> 01:43:14,874 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 2153 01:43:14,916 --> 01:43:17,291 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 2154 01:43:17,333 --> 01:43:20,166 ♪ You like to move it ♪ 2155 01:43:20,208 --> 01:43:22,666 ♪ Stuntman, I like to move it ♪ 2156 01:43:22,708 --> 01:43:25,166 ♪ Stuntman, I like to move it ♪ 2157 01:43:25,208 --> 01:43:27,499 ♪ Stuntman write and Stuntman sing it ♪ 2158 01:43:27,541 --> 01:43:30,374 ♪ Stuntman write and Stuntman sing it ♪ 2159 01:43:30,416 --> 01:43:32,958 ♪ Erick Morillo, he produce it ♪ 2160 01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:35,624 ♪ Erick Morillo, he produce it ♪ 2161 01:43:35,666 --> 01:43:38,208 ♪ Strictly Rhythm's then release it ♪ 2162 01:43:38,250 --> 01:43:40,833 ♪ Strictly Rhythm's then release it ♪ 2163 01:43:40,875 --> 01:43:43,291 ♪ Them release it to the public ♪ 2164 01:43:43,333 --> 01:43:45,958 ♪ Them release it to the public ♪ 2165 01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:48,499 ♪ The public make it a big hit ♪ 2166 01:43:48,541 --> 01:43:50,666 ♪ The public make it a big hit ♪ 2167 01:43:50,708 --> 01:43:53,666 ♪ So I like to move it, move it ♪ 2168 01:43:53,708 --> 01:43:56,249 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 2169 01:43:56,291 --> 01:43:58,916 ♪ I like to move it, move it ♪ 2170 01:43:58,958 --> 01:44:01,958 ♪ You like to move it ♪ 2171 01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:04,750 (group applauds) 2172 01:44:06,041 --> 01:44:06,999 - Yeah! 2173 01:44:07,041 --> 01:44:10,041 (slow guitar music) 2174 01:44:13,416 --> 01:44:14,374 Yeah. 2175 01:44:14,416 --> 01:44:16,166 - [Guitarist] Yeah! 2176 01:44:16,208 --> 01:44:18,875 (group cheers)