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News: Just because I do not

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want Critical Race Theory
taught to my children

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in school, does not mean that
I am a racist, damn it!

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We know he's not a racist
or all the other things

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the liberal media
is trying to label him with.

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When you look at what happened
in the last refugee

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crisis in Europe,
what has changed?

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These are not refugees
from Syria.

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These are refugees
from Ukraine.

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These are Christians,
they are white...

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Saira: I cannot remember a time
that I have not woken up

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in the middle of the night
in a cold sweat.

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People are so unwilling

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to have the conversation.

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Regina: White women,

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you have got to get on board
for humanity

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to have any hope.

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The only thing that's
going to change this,

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is if we change
the cultural DNA.

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And the only way
you can change the cultural

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DNA is through
personal human interactions.

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And we know that
breaking bread with people

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is the best way to do that.

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[glass clinking]

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So I want a show of hands

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of everyone at this table
who is racist.

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I must confess

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that over the past few years,
I have been gravely

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disappointed
with the white moderate

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who is more devoted
to order than to justice.

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I have been in this work
for a very long time.

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I marched in the sixties.

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I have worked on
presidential campaigns.

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And what I know
is that Race2Dinner

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allows us to have radically
honest conversations.

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[laughing]
'You hurt my feelings.'

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The market we have identified
is white women

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who call themselves liberal
or progressive or Democrat

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to not only change themselves
but begin to change

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their children.

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Their families, their
coworkers, their friends.

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The foot of white supremacy
and patriarchy

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is firmly on their necks
just like it's on ours.

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Should text it to you?
Yeah, you can text it to me.

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I know it sounds bizarre, but
I used to be a white feminist

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a white woman trapped
in a brown body.

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And then I woke up

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and I started doing
anti-racism work.

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So when I first started
talking about racism,

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I think the thing that
I was totally unprepared for

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was when, you know,

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you just talk about
white people,

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you say the words
white people,

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and those white people
want to come and kill you.

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Even if it means
one white woman at a time.

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I'm going to keep going.

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We're going to face time her.

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Good thing I put on my face.

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She put on her face for you.

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Nothing like a face.

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Okay, let's do this.

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That's all right.

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Can I just say one thing
that we were laughing about,

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which you know...white women
being late is classic

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and 'kisses'.

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Got a lot of people

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coming in...

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Okay, okay.

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Every white woman
that we can get down

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this road actually has
tremendous ability

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to start turning their own
networks, which are huge.

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Okay, so here's--
Okay. Okay.

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Are you ready?

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Regina: Potential deals?

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She's so dramatic
she's worse than me!

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Saira: Holy shit. Look at this.

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Oh my God... [laughter]

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Genevieve:
Like how many dinners...?

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Regina:
Well, what we're looking at

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let me tell you, Genevieve,
is licensing the business,

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as in franchising.

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Well, that's
what women are asking for.

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So that's what...
women of color are asking.

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And so that's what we will
be working on tomorrow.

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And then we'll be meeting
with Christal

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So on that, I'll add that.

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Genevieve, you would
fit so good into my family.

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We all are so loud.

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And there's nine of us

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and my daughter will go,
'Mom, you guys scare me.

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Everybody's talking
and nobody's listening!'

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I've never heard that before.

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I've been following Saira on
social media for a long time.

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I wanted to be Saira's friend.

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She's so triggering,
and it's so good.

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It's so needed.

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We had the dinner at my house.

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I wanted to, like,
graduate and be like,

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I have my certificate,
and I, like, survived a dinner

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with Race2Dinner, and,
like, here's my certificate.

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And now I'm like, super woke,

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which is all white supremacy.

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Like,
every single bit of that,

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every single bit of that is
all totally white supremacy.

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I want to do a Boomerang
with the three of us.

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Okay.

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What is a boomerang?

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you're gonna love it.

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Let's do it right now.

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There's no noise
it's just movement.

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Hilarious!
the Energizer bunny.

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I'm one of the Beckys.

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I'm somewhere.
And here's the thing.

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I don't know
what kind of Becky I am,

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but I'm pretty sure that
my black and brown friends

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know exactly
what kind of Becky I am.

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Before we go any further,

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what is a Becky or a Karen?

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In general

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It's a pejorative term,

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mostly used for describing
an entitled white woman.

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The worst of the Karens

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use their societal privilege

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to oppress people of color,
most commonly

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calling a manager
or worse, calling the cops.

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There is an
African-American man

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I am in Central Park.
He is recording me,

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and threatening myself
and my dog.

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Please send the cops!

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Illegally selling water
without a permit

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On my property.
It's not your property.

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I'm asking you
if this is your property.

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You're accusing me
of a crime, correct?

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I am not a racist person.

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But you know what?
You need to go home.

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You don't know what a signal is?
Guess what, even in China

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they have signal lights!

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I hear you have a problem
with these gentlemen

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having a barbecue
here at the lake.

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Why are you taking the posters
down?

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Because of all lives matter.

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She is crazy.

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You're crazy.

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Where is their safety?

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There is no safety.

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I would kill a ...

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but the law says
I can't kill the ...

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La la la, I love you too.

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You fucking bitch.

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Get out of here, man.
I'm going to call 911.

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I'm sorry I can't hear you,

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I am being threatened
by a man in the ramble!

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please send the cops
immediately!

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Go on your reservation!

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Nasty Mexican dog!
Nasty Mexican dog!

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I don't care about
your Facebook or your video.

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I play games
where you get fucked to death.

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The term has been criticized
for being sexist,

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but what is more Karen-like
behavior than being furious

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for being called a Karen?

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Either way,

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there is one good thing
that the term has produced

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for white women
it has raised awareness

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about the intersection
of race and gender

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and how that plays out
in this society.

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Every single day.

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Race, it's an urgent issue,
although it's

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one of those issues,
that,

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is anybody ever going
to come to the same place?

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I feel like
I get discriminated against

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on a lot of different fronts.

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Maybe because I'm a female,

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maybe because
I'm a blonde female.

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maybe because I drive
a truck.

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Being white in Denver is
almost harder sometimes, because

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it's the white picket fence
that we're all from

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and we have everything
given to us.

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And so sometimes
I feel like it's opposite.

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Hello!

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Hi how are you!

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I'm Saira.
I'm Michele.

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Regina.
Nice to meet you

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Nice to meet you.

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Thank you all.

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Thank you for being here
this evening.

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We want to have a conversation
that we believe is

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very important

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and one of the reasons
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can't really move forward

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is because we can never have
the conversation about race.

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My name is Saira Rao.

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thank you
all so much for coming.

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Like Regina said,
we have this elephant in

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the room
that's killing us all.

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White supremacy and racism

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is bad for everyone,
including white people.

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I think we have a window right
now, and you all are the key.

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White women are the key.

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You have more power
than you'll ever know.

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In this time and place

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If you all can join us
and join our sisterhood,

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the world changes.

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That's why I'm here, because

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it all starts
with conversation.

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So thank you

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sincerely for being here,
because

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it's not an easy conversation.

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And you didn't have to be
here. You chose to be here.

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I'd love if everyone
could just go around the table

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and briefly
introduce yourselves, say

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a little bit about yourselves
and why you're here.

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I have two young children,

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and it's important for me
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colorblind, right?

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I'm an artist, and a
barista

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and I learned about this
through Saira's Facebook

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the reason I'm here
is because

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I always thought of myself
as being kind of woke.

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I mean, you know,
my best friend is Mexican.

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My partner is Bi-Racial.

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We have these conversations
all the time.

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But then following your posts
and interacting on your

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posts, I realize

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I'm not doing that great.

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I feel like there's a racist

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white man living in my brain
and it's my dad's voice.

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I'm a descendant
of slave traders

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who believes very strongly
in telling ugly history.

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It's an honor to be here,
and I'm willing and wanting

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to get uncomfortable

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because I think that's
what we need to do.

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Thanks Holly.
Absolutely right.

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I am half-Mexican, half-white,

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and my family is every shade
under the sun in it.

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And so for me, race
has never really been a thing?

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Hi, Hazel.

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I do believe that this is such
an important conversation,

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especially because I do have
two children

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that are young that it's on us
to do better, to do more.

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My kids are biracial,
so my husband is Hispanic

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and white.
And I don't see color.

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I don't see so how she said
I'm blinded to color.

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Like it doesn't
faze me at all.

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We all
when we bleed, we bleed red.

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I'm here
tonight because I'm confused.

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I watched my son

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feel victimized.

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He felt that
because he was a white male,

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that he was a victim
of reverse racism.

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We're all human

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We all have a light

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a heart shining within us
that needs to be seen.

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We all need to be
a little bit better

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and just recognize the love
in each and every one of us.

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Every single dinner
without fail.

258
00:13:18,885 --> 00:13:20,843
We've got like the woke wars.

259
00:13:20,930 --> 00:13:23,803
And so it really is
this like being wedded

260
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to how not racist you are,
but it's a start.

261
00:13:27,502 --> 00:13:28,851
It's a start.

262
00:13:28,938 --> 00:13:30,331
And you've got to start
somewhere.

263
00:13:31,462 --> 00:13:33,116
One of the things we know

264
00:13:33,203 --> 00:13:36,685
is that you cannot change
what you don't acknowledge.

265
00:13:36,772 --> 00:13:40,558
So we're here to help you
acknowledge some things

266
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and to try and work
on changing some things.

267
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So I've heard this
a couple of times already

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colorblind
and you don't see color,

269
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and I'm just going
to drop the bomb here.

270
00:13:51,091 --> 00:13:52,483
That's white supremacy.

271
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Colorblindness
is white supremacy.

272
00:13:57,662 --> 00:14:01,275
You even said, I don't see
the color of anyone's skin

273
00:14:01,362 --> 00:14:04,060
because when we cut ourselves
open, we all bleed red.

274
00:14:04,887 --> 00:14:06,889
So you acknowledge
that you see the red.

275
00:14:06,976 --> 00:14:09,500
How can you not see
the color of our skin?

276
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Because to me, I mean,
I have my husband's Hispanic.

277
00:14:14,201 --> 00:14:16,333
I've dated every race.
It doesn't...

278
00:14:16,420 --> 00:14:17,726
I see inside.

279
00:14:17,813 --> 00:14:20,207
I see your love,
your morals, your values.

280
00:14:20,294 --> 00:14:23,601
I see what we have in common.

281
00:14:23,688 --> 00:14:25,690
Like my husband, we enjoy
doing things together.

282
00:14:25,777 --> 00:14:27,344
Like the different things
I don't see...

283
00:14:27,431 --> 00:14:29,216
Maybe like your experience

284
00:14:29,303 --> 00:14:32,480
in the world
is different than theirs?

285
00:14:34,264 --> 00:14:36,092
You walk through the world

286
00:14:36,179 --> 00:14:38,225
with a different experience
because you are a white woman.

287
00:14:47,799 --> 00:14:49,018
What is the number one

288
00:14:49,105 --> 00:14:51,847
thing that white women feel

289
00:14:51,934 --> 00:14:56,069
the desperate need to be, over
and above everything else?

290
00:14:58,114 --> 00:15:00,595
Nice.

291
00:15:00,682 --> 00:15:03,728
White women feel the
desperate need to be nice.

292
00:15:03,815 --> 00:15:07,036
It's white women's niceness
that is killing us all.

293
00:15:07,950 --> 00:15:10,518
And so what does nice mean
for white women?

294
00:15:10,605 --> 00:15:12,999
It means smiling.

295
00:15:13,086 --> 00:15:15,392
It means being polite.

296
00:15:15,479 --> 00:15:17,873
It means not calling out

297
00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,440
oppression when it happens.

298
00:15:19,527 --> 00:15:22,269
When you say you're
colorblind, you erase us.

299
00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:24,749
Marni: You're not being
defensive as well?

300
00:15:24,836 --> 00:15:25,837
I don't understand.

301
00:15:25,925 --> 00:15:27,056
We're all women, I mean...

302
00:15:27,143 --> 00:15:28,362
We are sharing
our truth!

303
00:15:28,449 --> 00:15:29,929
And I'm sharing
my truth too!

304
00:15:30,016 --> 00:15:32,322
I mean, that to me is
I mean, to me is...

305
00:15:32,409 --> 00:15:36,152
We need to educate
ourselves so much

306
00:15:36,239 --> 00:15:39,764
because we have no idea.

307
00:15:39,851 --> 00:15:44,073
Is that what this conversation
is about, some education?

308
00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:49,122
You know, change requires
pain.

309
00:15:49,209 --> 00:15:52,647
Most people will not change
until they have

310
00:15:52,734 --> 00:15:56,259
what I call
a significant emotional event.

311
00:15:57,217 --> 00:15:59,523
And I also want to lay
a couple of other things down.

312
00:15:59,610 --> 00:16:01,047
You mentioned it

313
00:16:01,134 --> 00:16:02,874
and you've mentioned it
being married

314
00:16:02,962 --> 00:16:05,703
to a black person or brown
person, having brown or black

315
00:16:05,790 --> 00:16:08,880
children does not make you
impervious to racism.

316
00:16:08,968 --> 00:16:10,795
You cannot,

317
00:16:10,882 --> 00:16:11,883
frankly,

318
00:16:11,971 --> 00:16:14,016
fuck your way out of racism.

319
00:16:17,977 --> 00:16:19,804
Let me ask you a question.

320
00:16:19,891 --> 00:16:22,503
How many of you would trade

321
00:16:22,590 --> 00:16:25,419
places with a black person
in this society?

322
00:16:25,506 --> 00:16:26,550
Raise your hand.

323
00:16:30,685 --> 00:16:32,295
I don't know the answer
to that.

324
00:16:32,382 --> 00:16:33,818
Well, it's yes or no.

325
00:16:33,905 --> 00:16:36,473
How many of you would do it?

326
00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,085
I mean, I dated a Hispanic,
very dark-skinned...

327
00:16:39,172 --> 00:16:41,522
No, no, I'm not talking about
Hispanic.

328
00:16:41,609 --> 00:16:43,480
The question is -

329
00:16:43,567 --> 00:16:45,526
But I was gonna have children,
so I spent many years thinking

330
00:16:45,613 --> 00:16:48,529
of myself as having very
dark-skinned children.

331
00:16:50,661 --> 00:16:52,228
Question is,

332
00:16:52,315 --> 00:16:56,667
how many of you would be
willing to trade places

333
00:16:56,754 --> 00:16:59,192
in this society
with a black person?

334
00:17:01,281 --> 00:17:02,934
I think I would.
Absolutely.

335
00:17:03,022 --> 00:17:04,327
Absolutely.
Okay.

336
00:17:04,414 --> 00:17:05,807
I'm not saying
there's not racism.

337
00:17:05,894 --> 00:17:07,461
Absolutely not.

338
00:17:07,548 --> 00:17:09,071
It's to say I don't see it.

339
00:17:09,158 --> 00:17:11,987
Yeah, but you know, how racist
this country is -

340
00:17:12,074 --> 00:17:13,815
Not to the degree that you do.

341
00:17:13,902 --> 00:17:15,773
Oh, no. You will never know.

342
00:17:16,426 --> 00:17:18,037
You know, in this country,

343
00:17:18,124 --> 00:17:22,041
we created the criminalization
of black people.

344
00:17:23,390 --> 00:17:25,218
And when your skin

345
00:17:25,305 --> 00:17:28,699
is seen as a weapon,
you're never unarmed.

346
00:17:28,786 --> 00:17:32,486
And that's why black boys
and men and women are dying

347
00:17:32,573 --> 00:17:34,879
in the street
with their hands up

348
00:17:37,839 --> 00:17:42,017
I was born in 1950,
and everything was

349
00:17:42,104 --> 00:17:43,888
in black and white.

350
00:17:43,975 --> 00:17:49,068
I am myself now almost 70,
four generations out of slavery.

351
00:17:49,155 --> 00:17:51,157
And that should tell you
something.

352
00:17:51,940 --> 00:17:54,508
I am a mother.

353
00:17:54,595 --> 00:17:56,423
I have two adult children.

354
00:17:56,510 --> 00:17:58,555
I have four grandchildren.

355
00:17:58,642 --> 00:18:01,210
Eleven siblings.

356
00:18:01,297 --> 00:18:03,908
And each of them has children.

357
00:18:03,995 --> 00:18:07,347
So this work is so important
to me.

358
00:18:08,913 --> 00:18:12,917
The more you think about white
privilege and racism,

359
00:18:13,614 --> 00:18:15,050
the more you get

360
00:18:15,137 --> 00:18:17,313
why white people
don't want to talk about it.

361
00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,924
They just want to be in
denial, denial, denial.

362
00:18:20,011 --> 00:18:21,970
I don't think
as a black person,

363
00:18:22,057 --> 00:18:23,232
I have the luxury

364
00:18:23,319 --> 00:18:25,452
of sitting around
and doing nothing

365
00:18:25,539 --> 00:18:27,758
because the lives
of my grandchildren

366
00:18:27,845 --> 00:18:31,632
and my children depend on me
being active in this space.

367
00:18:31,719 --> 00:18:35,201
We have to be in this because
our life depends on it.

368
00:18:38,204 --> 00:18:42,077
We have one rule, and that
is if you're going to cry,

369
00:18:42,164 --> 00:18:44,427
leave the table
and go into the living room.

370
00:18:44,514 --> 00:18:45,994
It's right there.

371
00:18:46,081 --> 00:18:48,910
And there's some Kleenex
and whatever you need.

372
00:18:48,997 --> 00:18:51,217
Does anybody know why
we would have that rule?

373
00:18:52,305 --> 00:18:55,264
Because this is about
white supremacy.

374
00:18:55,351 --> 00:18:57,571
And not our personal
feelings, right?

375
00:18:57,658 --> 00:18:59,399
Mm hmm.

376
00:18:59,486 --> 00:19:01,966
And when a white woman starts
crying, what happens.

377
00:19:04,621 --> 00:19:06,667
All the attention
goes to her?

378
00:19:06,754 --> 00:19:08,669
Yeah, all the attention.

379
00:19:08,756 --> 00:19:11,672
So that's
the only rule that we have.

380
00:19:11,759 --> 00:19:13,761
Does anyone want to cry
right now?

381
00:19:13,848 --> 00:19:16,633
No? Okay. All right.

382
00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,941
So I want to show of hands
of everyone at this table

383
00:19:20,028 --> 00:19:21,725
who is racist.

384
00:19:44,226 --> 00:19:46,750
No, you gotta go.
Sorry, sis.

385
00:19:52,539 --> 00:19:54,410
So I saw
a couple of people surprised

386
00:19:54,497 --> 00:19:57,674
that I raised my hand.
When I said that I was racist,

387
00:19:57,761 --> 00:20:00,982
I'm racist
against black people.

388
00:20:01,069 --> 00:20:03,071
So it's institutional.

389
00:20:03,158 --> 00:20:07,945
Indians are institutionally
racist against black people.

390
00:20:08,903 --> 00:20:12,036
The only person at this table
that cannot be

391
00:20:12,123 --> 00:20:15,257
institutionally racist
against anybody is who?

392
00:20:17,651 --> 00:20:18,652
Regina.

393
00:20:20,088 --> 00:20:21,872
White supremacy is

394
00:20:21,959 --> 00:20:25,876
what keeps Americans from
having these conversations

395
00:20:25,963 --> 00:20:27,226
about race.

396
00:20:27,313 --> 00:20:30,098
And I think it was the great

397
00:20:30,185 --> 00:20:31,708
Frederick Douglass
who said,

398
00:20:31,795 --> 00:20:33,057
'Power cedes nothing.

399
00:20:33,144 --> 00:20:35,146
It never has
and it never will.'

400
00:20:35,234 --> 00:20:37,192
So what that means
for us is white

401
00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:39,586
men are not going to
give up their power.

402
00:20:39,673 --> 00:20:43,067
So that means
we have to take it.

403
00:20:45,244 --> 00:20:48,638
Deconstructing
Karen is dismantling

404
00:20:48,725 --> 00:20:50,466
your own white supremacy.

405
00:20:53,208 --> 00:20:57,038
And deconstructing that for me
was actually like

406
00:20:57,125 --> 00:21:00,520
removing the toxin
from my body

407
00:21:00,607 --> 00:21:03,479
where I could start
acknowledging

408
00:21:03,566 --> 00:21:06,787
all of the poison
that I've been swallowing

409
00:21:06,874 --> 00:21:10,225
and believing.
It's deprogramming yourself.

410
00:21:11,182 --> 00:21:12,488
The only way I can

411
00:21:12,575 --> 00:21:14,273
say this, is
I feel like I had to

412
00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:19,582
break myself and shatter
into so many pieces,

413
00:21:20,366 --> 00:21:24,239
and I'm slowly
putting myself together.

414
00:21:24,892 --> 00:21:27,024
It has made me have to unlearn

415
00:21:27,111 --> 00:21:29,636
everything

416
00:21:30,419 --> 00:21:32,769
It is deconstructing

417
00:21:32,856 --> 00:21:35,946
all of the harm
that has been caused to me

418
00:21:36,033 --> 00:21:37,861
and all the harm
that I have caused.

419
00:21:37,948 --> 00:21:40,560
And it is painful as fuck.

420
00:21:44,912 --> 00:21:48,045
My parents were Indian
immigrants.

421
00:21:48,132 --> 00:21:49,960
They'd come over after

422
00:21:50,047 --> 00:21:53,747
the Immigration Act of 1965
and at that time in Richmond

423
00:21:53,834 --> 00:21:55,836
there were black people
and there were white people.

424
00:21:55,923 --> 00:21:57,968
But there was really nobody
who looked like me.

425
00:22:00,971 --> 00:22:02,625
Growing up in Richmond,
Virginia

426
00:22:02,712 --> 00:22:06,760
we were always taught
as Indian kids to assimilate

427
00:22:06,847 --> 00:22:09,676
and it was made very clear
we were assimilating

428
00:22:09,763 --> 00:22:11,939
to white culture,
not black culture.

429
00:22:12,026 --> 00:22:14,550
The first time I felt
'other' was in the fourth grade

430
00:22:14,637 --> 00:22:16,726
and we'll call this boy, Evan.

431
00:22:17,988 --> 00:22:19,642
Evan asked me to go with him

432
00:22:19,729 --> 00:22:21,209
I'm not really sure
where we're supposed to go,

433
00:22:21,296 --> 00:22:22,776
but people used to go together
at that time,

434
00:22:22,863 --> 00:22:24,691
and I was super psyched

435
00:22:24,778 --> 00:22:28,434
you know, I was the only
nonwhite kid in my class.

436
00:22:28,521 --> 00:22:29,870
I couldn't believe that
this was happening.

437
00:22:29,957 --> 00:22:31,654
He was very popular.

438
00:22:31,741 --> 00:22:34,135
The next day, he said,
Meet me in the library.

439
00:22:34,222 --> 00:22:35,484
And I was like, My God,

440
00:22:35,571 --> 00:22:37,051
Evan's bringing me
a Rubik's Cube

441
00:22:37,138 --> 00:22:38,792
or Skittles or something.

442
00:22:38,879 --> 00:22:42,404
And we go into the library,
and he says to me, Saira,

443
00:22:42,491 --> 00:22:43,971
I'm really sorry.
I can't go with you.

444
00:22:44,058 --> 00:22:45,929
My mom says that I can't go
with black girls.

445
00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:50,064
I remember going home,

446
00:22:50,151 --> 00:22:52,893
going outside to the front
yard, and I found a big rock,

447
00:22:52,980 --> 00:22:55,417
and I just started
rubbing my skin,

448
00:22:55,504 --> 00:22:57,245
trying to take
the brown off of my skin

449
00:22:57,332 --> 00:22:59,160
until I bled.

450
00:22:59,247 --> 00:23:01,858
My mother came home from work
that day, and I was sitting

451
00:23:01,945 --> 00:23:04,731
on the front stoop,
and I just looked at her

452
00:23:04,818 --> 00:23:07,124
and I said, You
you did this to me.

453
00:23:07,211 --> 00:23:08,691
You made me look like this.

454
00:23:09,431 --> 00:23:10,998
My mother

455
00:23:11,085 --> 00:23:13,348
was a doctor at
the Veteran's Administration,

456
00:23:13,435 --> 00:23:16,873
and she wore her sari to work
every day in the seventies

457
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,572
and the eighties and the
nineties in Richmond, Virginia.

458
00:23:19,659 --> 00:23:21,095
And sometimes she'd come
home from work

459
00:23:21,182 --> 00:23:22,792
and talk about
how some of the patients

460
00:23:22,879 --> 00:23:24,838
would call her
the N-word or Paki

461
00:23:24,925 --> 00:23:27,101
or she smells bad,
and they're not going to let

462
00:23:27,188 --> 00:23:30,017
someone like her check them.

463
00:23:30,104 --> 00:23:31,758
And she would say, Okay, well,
the next time

464
00:23:31,845 --> 00:23:34,195
you can see a white guy,
you're gonna be dead.

465
00:23:34,282 --> 00:23:36,719
So you know, bend over
and I'll give you a rectal exam

466
00:23:36,806 --> 00:23:39,026
and then she had to actually
give these people rectal exams.

467
00:23:39,113 --> 00:23:41,637
Think about how humiliating
that was for her.

468
00:23:42,682 --> 00:23:44,161
I loved my mother
more than I could

469
00:23:44,248 --> 00:23:45,772
possibly love
anyone on the planet.

470
00:23:45,859 --> 00:23:48,731
And I said to her, please stop
wearing the sari,

471
00:23:48,818 --> 00:23:50,385
wear normal clothes.

472
00:23:50,472 --> 00:23:51,734
And she just smiled
and shrugged

473
00:23:51,821 --> 00:23:53,519
and the next day

474
00:23:53,606 --> 00:23:55,825
she put the sari right back on
and went back to work.

475
00:23:56,609 --> 00:23:58,132
People are complicated.

476
00:23:58,219 --> 00:24:00,439
As much as my mom

477
00:24:00,526 --> 00:24:02,876
wanted us to be white,
frankly,

478
00:24:02,963 --> 00:24:07,010
she was totally unwilling
to give up herself in many

479
00:24:07,097 --> 00:24:09,099
respects for white culture.

480
00:24:09,186 --> 00:24:10,753
Once it became very clear to me

481
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,713
that we were not supposed
to bring this up to her

482
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,847
I remained silent. In order
to survive, be successful

483
00:24:17,934 --> 00:24:21,024
I decided I was going to do
everything in my power

484
00:24:21,111 --> 00:24:23,766
to A, fit in and as a result,
make her proud

485
00:24:23,853 --> 00:24:26,769
and make her believe
that the choices that

486
00:24:26,856 --> 00:24:28,815
she made
to leave her entire family

487
00:24:28,902 --> 00:24:32,340
in India behind
had to be worthwhile.

488
00:24:32,427 --> 00:24:34,951
A hundred percent.

489
00:24:36,910 --> 00:24:39,608
Racism
is the elephant in every room

490
00:24:40,261 --> 00:24:42,742
in America, in white America.

491
00:24:42,829 --> 00:24:44,395
And frankly, in my experience,

492
00:24:44,483 --> 00:24:46,615
and in the Indian-American
community as well,

493
00:24:46,702 --> 00:24:48,225
nobody wants to talk about it.

494
00:24:48,312 --> 00:24:49,575
My sister
and I didn't talk about it.

495
00:24:49,662 --> 00:24:51,359
No one in my family
talked about it.

496
00:24:51,446 --> 00:24:53,361
If you don't talk about
it, maybe it'll just go away.

497
00:24:55,624 --> 00:24:58,627
I think news we could
all agree makes things worse

498
00:24:58,714 --> 00:25:00,586
than when we were younger
and our age, right?

499
00:25:00,673 --> 00:25:03,458
No that's not true, how
does news make things worse?

500
00:25:03,545 --> 00:25:06,461
Because like when I was younger
and the things that were

501
00:25:06,548 --> 00:25:09,333
that were shown were not shown
when I was younger.

502
00:25:09,420 --> 00:25:10,900
I feel like
it's more rampant now.

503
00:25:10,987 --> 00:25:13,903
People have a free pass
to just go

504
00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:17,037
and be their white supremacist
self on display

505
00:25:17,124 --> 00:25:19,866
because there's a free pass
for it in my opinion.

506
00:25:19,953 --> 00:25:22,216
I mean, given
our current political climate

507
00:25:22,303 --> 00:25:25,262
and the leader of our country...

508
00:25:28,831 --> 00:25:30,398
When I was in Charleston,
South Carolina

509
00:25:30,485 --> 00:25:33,662
last summer
and I get into my Lyft,

510
00:25:33,749 --> 00:25:35,011
and the guy turned around

511
00:25:35,098 --> 00:25:37,013
and looked at me
and he said, lady,

512
00:25:37,100 --> 00:25:38,928
he goes, I hate
to have to say this to you,

513
00:25:39,015 --> 00:25:40,974
but if I get pulled over,

514
00:25:41,061 --> 00:25:43,759
you're just
another black woman

515
00:25:43,846 --> 00:25:47,502
he's black, and he said,
put your hands up.

516
00:25:47,589 --> 00:25:48,590
Do as they say.

517
00:25:48,677 --> 00:25:51,114
Do not make any trouble.

518
00:25:51,201 --> 00:25:52,159
Michele: He actually told
you that?

519
00:25:52,246 --> 00:25:53,595
Yeah, of course.

520
00:25:53,682 --> 00:25:54,988
Of course.

521
00:25:55,075 --> 00:25:57,686
To protect him?
And to protect me.

522
00:25:57,773 --> 00:26:00,515
That's the life he lives.
That's his reality.

523
00:26:00,602 --> 00:26:02,561
But that's insane.

524
00:26:02,648 --> 00:26:03,692
That's his reality

525
00:26:03,779 --> 00:26:05,259
whether it's insane or not!

526
00:26:05,346 --> 00:26:06,913
No I'm not saying he's insane.
I'm saying -

527
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,305
I get it.

528
00:26:08,392 --> 00:26:12,396
But what we're saying is,
this is America.

529
00:26:12,483 --> 00:26:14,790
I want to ask
also to stop acting shocked.

530
00:26:14,877 --> 00:26:18,620
So part of white feminism
is acting so surprised

531
00:26:18,707 --> 00:26:20,535
when we tell you -
Marni: But it is!

532
00:26:20,622 --> 00:26:22,189
Why are you telling us not
to act the way that we act?

533
00:26:22,276 --> 00:26:23,582
It is surprising.

534
00:26:23,669 --> 00:26:25,932
Because that upholds
white supremacy.

535
00:26:26,019 --> 00:26:28,848
So what I'm saying,
I'm asking all of you,

536
00:26:28,935 --> 00:26:30,850
that when we express to you
and I'm not just

537
00:26:30,937 --> 00:26:32,634
talking about Regina and I,
because

538
00:26:32,721 --> 00:26:34,288
when this dinner is over, like
this is a blip, right?

539
00:26:34,375 --> 00:26:36,072
You go back into the world,

540
00:26:36,159 --> 00:26:40,076
and when people of color trust
you enough to tell you

541
00:26:40,163 --> 00:26:42,775
their story, believe us
without expressing shock.

542
00:26:42,862 --> 00:26:44,864
Because when you express shock

543
00:26:44,951 --> 00:26:47,301
it pushes
you away from the blame.

544
00:26:48,911 --> 00:26:51,566
That makes me very angry
because I don't look at that.

545
00:26:51,653 --> 00:26:55,135
I was born in 1950, you know
what I expect of white women?

546
00:26:55,222 --> 00:26:59,008
Not a damn thing. Nothing.

547
00:26:59,095 --> 00:27:01,881
I expect nothing of you
because you have never

548
00:27:01,968 --> 00:27:03,099
given me anything.

549
00:27:03,186 --> 00:27:05,188
I can't trust you.

550
00:27:05,275 --> 00:27:07,103
Okay?

551
00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:08,670
But how can we come together
when you say something like,

552
00:27:08,757 --> 00:27:10,106
I will never trust
a white woman?

553
00:27:10,193 --> 00:27:11,804
If we had a really
heart-to-heart talk,

554
00:27:11,891 --> 00:27:13,196
you said you would
never trust me?

555
00:27:13,283 --> 00:27:15,546
Well, I would have to see.

556
00:27:15,634 --> 00:27:16,939
Out of all your years in life,

557
00:27:17,026 --> 00:27:18,637
you've never trusted
a white woman.

558
00:27:18,724 --> 00:27:20,290
Well, let me put it this way.

559
00:27:20,377 --> 00:27:22,466
The ones I have trusted
have come back

560
00:27:22,553 --> 00:27:25,208
to disappoint me.

561
00:27:25,295 --> 00:27:27,428
That's sad.

562
00:27:27,515 --> 00:27:30,561
It's interesting to me
that Marni, that you're

563
00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:32,563
when Regina
is talking about her feelings

564
00:27:32,651 --> 00:27:34,043
and how she doesn't trust

565
00:27:34,130 --> 00:27:36,306
white women,
instead of saying, my God.

566
00:27:36,393 --> 00:27:38,874
Well like, why? Like,
what about me?

567
00:27:38,961 --> 00:27:40,659
That's what
you said, would you trust me?

568
00:27:40,746 --> 00:27:42,617
What if we had a
heart-to-heart conversation?

569
00:27:42,704 --> 00:27:44,880
Why are your feelings so hurt?

570
00:27:44,967 --> 00:27:46,273
From both of you, though

571
00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:49,058
has been, about

572
00:27:49,145 --> 00:27:50,364
like a hate against us.

573
00:27:50,451 --> 00:27:52,975
It's been very aggressive.

574
00:27:53,062 --> 00:27:55,282
That really hurts me
that somebody would not

575
00:27:55,369 --> 00:27:58,677
But why are your feelings more
important than the reality

576
00:27:58,764 --> 00:28:01,027
of the violence of our lives?

577
00:28:08,774 --> 00:28:12,603
Imagine if your husband beat you
and you confront him.

578
00:28:13,213 --> 00:28:15,606
Would you go
and massage his back

579
00:28:15,694 --> 00:28:16,738
while you're confronting him?

580
00:28:16,825 --> 00:28:18,435
Or would you actually

581
00:28:18,522 --> 00:28:21,482
be really angry and hurt
that he's been beating you?

582
00:28:21,569 --> 00:28:23,092
But that's
where we come to

583
00:28:23,179 --> 00:28:24,703
when you've been
a victim of abuse.

584
00:28:24,790 --> 00:28:27,140
And white women have abused us
our whole lives.

585
00:28:27,793 --> 00:28:29,490
Why do we have to hold
your hand?

586
00:28:29,577 --> 00:28:32,798
Can't we just tell you, hey,
you guys have hurt us!

587
00:28:32,885 --> 00:28:34,234
This is what you've done.

588
00:28:34,321 --> 00:28:35,931
Now make it right!

589
00:28:36,671 --> 00:28:38,194
I know, Saira.

590
00:28:38,281 --> 00:28:40,153
And when she says
she doesn't trust white women,

591
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,328
and I consider her

592
00:28:41,415 --> 00:28:42,895
a friend of mine,

593
00:28:42,982 --> 00:28:45,724
I also understand
why she doesn't trust me.

594
00:28:45,811 --> 00:28:47,638
I don't take that personally.

595
00:28:47,726 --> 00:28:50,206
Marni: I'm asking a question
on what could you do?

596
00:28:50,293 --> 00:28:52,687
Because as a white woman,
I mean -

597
00:28:52,774 --> 00:28:54,733
We have a lot of work to do.

598
00:28:54,820 --> 00:28:57,083
We have so much work to do.
And so I don't

599
00:28:57,170 --> 00:28:59,694
I don't take it personally
because I understand that like

600
00:29:00,739 --> 00:29:03,132
That is her life.

601
00:29:03,785 --> 00:29:05,918
But to say, you're her friend,
but she doesn't trust you.

602
00:29:06,005 --> 00:29:08,442
It's also a hard thing
for me to accept, to say

603
00:29:08,529 --> 00:29:10,270
this is my friend but she -

604
00:29:10,357 --> 00:29:13,012
But also, why on earth
is it about you?!

605
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,798
The fact and also
I want to come back to

606
00:29:16,885 --> 00:29:19,192
why would you say that
we're spewing hate?

607
00:29:19,279 --> 00:29:22,195
We're telling you
what it's like to be us.

608
00:29:22,282 --> 00:29:24,110
But you know everybody,
you don't have to look

609
00:29:24,197 --> 00:29:26,068
at my color of my skin saying
I'm white, to not trust me.

610
00:29:26,155 --> 00:29:27,809
Why don't you look past that
I'm white

611
00:29:27,896 --> 00:29:30,116
and say she's
a good person?

612
00:29:30,203 --> 00:29:32,901
Her entire life, we've never
given her a reason to trust us.

613
00:29:32,988 --> 00:29:35,121
Everything is not...

614
00:29:35,208 --> 00:29:36,949
[crosstalk]

615
00:29:37,036 --> 00:29:39,386
Not every white person
is bad!

616
00:29:39,473 --> 00:29:41,475
I think that part of what...

617
00:29:41,562 --> 00:29:43,346
Regina: I have this
discussion with people

618
00:29:43,433 --> 00:29:45,087
that I know, friends

619
00:29:45,174 --> 00:29:47,176
lawyers, everybody,
and they'll say, well, Regina,

620
00:29:47,263 --> 00:29:49,048
you know, there are some good
white people.

621
00:29:49,135 --> 00:29:50,049
And I go, well,

622
00:29:50,136 --> 00:29:51,572
what have the good white

623
00:29:51,659 --> 00:29:55,706
people been doing
for the last 450 years?

624
00:29:55,794 --> 00:29:57,534
What have you been doing?

625
00:29:57,621 --> 00:30:00,711
Obviously, it's not enough
because nothing has changed.

626
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,114
When you're in discussions
with white people

627
00:30:12,201 --> 00:30:15,944
about racism,
they like to say, well, MLK

628
00:30:16,597 --> 00:30:17,816
changed the world.

629
00:30:17,903 --> 00:30:19,295
And he did it
with nonviolence.

630
00:30:19,382 --> 00:30:21,689
And my question to
them is, well,

631
00:30:21,776 --> 00:30:25,606
if he changed the world,
why are we still here?

632
00:30:25,693 --> 00:30:28,130
50 plus years after his death?

633
00:30:32,613 --> 00:30:33,962
I just want you to get clear.

634
00:30:34,049 --> 00:30:35,703
We're trying to tell you
what it's like.

635
00:30:35,790 --> 00:30:36,878
People's feelings are hurt.

636
00:30:36,965 --> 00:30:38,575
We're spewing hate.

637
00:30:38,662 --> 00:30:42,188
So we are trying to
to tell you.

638
00:30:42,275 --> 00:30:44,581
And the first thing
that a lot of you

639
00:30:44,668 --> 00:30:47,323
at this table have done
has been this.

640
00:30:50,979 --> 00:30:52,633
And I want you to
sit with that.

641
00:30:54,635 --> 00:30:57,290
I just want you to sit
with that.

642
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:00,859
That's all.

643
00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:08,518
Thank you.

644
00:31:08,605 --> 00:31:10,085
Have a great day.

645
00:31:10,825 --> 00:31:12,174
Bye.

646
00:31:13,393 --> 00:31:16,483
I have a phone call coming up
with my Westchester people.

647
00:31:17,614 --> 00:31:19,486
We have two hosts
in Westchester

648
00:31:19,573 --> 00:31:20,922
and again,

649
00:31:21,009 --> 00:31:22,837
you know,
if it's if it's out of town,

650
00:31:22,924 --> 00:31:24,795
they're they're doing
a lot more fundraising.

651
00:31:24,883 --> 00:31:27,494
So it's it's that much more.

652
00:31:27,581 --> 00:31:30,627
Now they have to go
and they have to

653
00:31:30,714 --> 00:31:32,412
not only tell friends
and family

654
00:31:32,499 --> 00:31:34,980
and people in their network
like...sweetheart...

655
00:31:39,593 --> 00:31:41,421
Yeah. Yeah, we do. Okay.

656
00:31:41,508 --> 00:31:44,032
Can I have some space right
now? Thanks bud.

657
00:31:44,119 --> 00:31:45,425
For me?

658
00:31:45,512 --> 00:31:46,513
Yeah. Oh, thank you.

659
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,341
That's so nice.

660
00:31:48,428 --> 00:31:49,516
Sharing is caring.

661
00:31:49,603 --> 00:31:51,692
We have a host that was like,

662
00:31:51,779 --> 00:31:53,041
you know, Genevieve,

663
00:31:53,128 --> 00:31:55,348
this is really important
to me, and -

664
00:31:55,435 --> 00:31:57,393
Hey! that's one of Desmond's
paper people.

665
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:58,829
Drop it.

666
00:31:58,917 --> 00:32:00,875
Sorry, buddy. Here
ya go. This is...

667
00:32:00,962 --> 00:32:03,922
This is like, all day long,
losing my train of thought.

668
00:32:05,314 --> 00:32:06,533
Here they are.

669
00:32:06,620 --> 00:32:08,839
Hey, is this Shannon
and Diana?

670
00:32:09,405 --> 00:32:11,059
Yay!

671
00:32:11,146 --> 00:32:14,019
So I love hearing all the work
that you're doing.

672
00:32:14,802 --> 00:32:17,152
And I mean, you said 100
people showed up to that

673
00:32:17,239 --> 00:32:19,981
first meeting.
How many are, like, still...

674
00:32:20,068 --> 00:32:21,461
Saira: I like Genevieve a lot.

675
00:32:21,548 --> 00:32:23,550
I think that she's
extremely endearing

676
00:32:23,637 --> 00:32:27,467
and kind and really
wants to do good.

677
00:32:27,554 --> 00:32:29,643
We need a white woman
in that position

678
00:32:29,730 --> 00:32:31,166
because white women

679
00:32:31,253 --> 00:32:32,646
have to hear this from other
white women.

680
00:32:32,733 --> 00:32:35,040
And I'm from New York,
and I can tell you

681
00:32:35,127 --> 00:32:37,912
from personal experience
that we need it in New York.

682
00:32:37,999 --> 00:32:39,914
Saira: We're not credible
in some ways

683
00:32:40,001 --> 00:32:41,437
until, frankly,
we get in the room

684
00:32:41,524 --> 00:32:43,222
and we have some time
to work with these women

685
00:32:43,309 --> 00:32:45,093
but before the dinners

686
00:32:45,180 --> 00:32:47,095
white women respond
much better

687
00:32:47,182 --> 00:32:49,184
to other white women
than they would with us.

688
00:32:49,271 --> 00:32:51,752
And that, in a nutshell,
is white supremacy.

689
00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:55,016
All right well thank you
both so much.

690
00:32:55,103 --> 00:32:57,540
I really appreciate it.
And we will...

691
00:32:57,627 --> 00:32:59,064
You're going
to hear from me very soon.

692
00:33:02,632 --> 00:33:04,460
What else happened today baby?

693
00:33:05,418 --> 00:33:06,549
We had tech class.

694
00:33:06,636 --> 00:33:08,073
Oh!

695
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,075
Is that
where you emailed me from?

696
00:33:10,162 --> 00:33:11,815
Yeah. We were using

697
00:33:11,902 --> 00:33:14,340
they taught us how to delete
all the spam emails.

698
00:33:14,427 --> 00:33:16,777
Have you also figured out
how to delete all the other

699
00:33:16,864 --> 00:33:18,866
20 email addresses
you've created?

700
00:33:18,953 --> 00:33:20,650
Yep. Really?

701
00:33:20,737 --> 00:33:22,478
Yep. Have you done that?

702
00:33:22,565 --> 00:33:24,132
Not yet. I figured...

703
00:33:24,828 --> 00:33:26,700
Let's do that next.

704
00:33:31,705 --> 00:33:33,968
Okay, so we're having
a vegetarian meal.

705
00:33:34,055 --> 00:33:35,709
Why don't you put him to work.

706
00:33:35,796 --> 00:33:37,276
Can you

707
00:33:37,363 --> 00:33:39,887
have you used a bigger knife
before? Yep. No.

708
00:33:39,974 --> 00:33:41,758
He looks like he's in control.

709
00:33:41,845 --> 00:33:44,109
Saira: And then the next thing
you have is a finger that...

710
00:33:44,805 --> 00:33:47,547
Well, we'll work through it.

711
00:33:47,634 --> 00:33:49,505
We'll work with a
cut off finger.

712
00:33:50,245 --> 00:33:51,594
Cheers!

713
00:33:51,681 --> 00:33:54,336
Cheers.

714
00:33:54,423 --> 00:33:58,471
You know,
when we were at some dinner

715
00:33:58,558 --> 00:34:00,647
and my dad asked,

716
00:34:00,734 --> 00:34:04,346
you know, who is
an inspiration in your life?

717
00:34:04,433 --> 00:34:07,045
And Eliana said, You!

718
00:34:08,133 --> 00:34:09,482
Did you!

719
00:34:09,569 --> 00:34:10,918
That really
makes me feel good.

720
00:34:11,005 --> 00:34:12,485
Thank you.

721
00:34:12,572 --> 00:34:14,965
It's because you're
super brave and you like

722
00:34:15,618 --> 00:34:17,446
speak out against
what's wrong.

723
00:34:17,533 --> 00:34:18,708
So that's cool.

724
00:34:18,795 --> 00:34:20,232
That's, oh, my God.

725
00:34:20,319 --> 00:34:22,321
Thank you.

726
00:34:22,408 --> 00:34:23,887
That's why we do what we do.

727
00:34:23,974 --> 00:34:25,193
Yeah.

728
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,152
Thank you, Eliana.

729
00:34:28,457 --> 00:34:30,155
Yeah you just tell
the truth, right?

730
00:34:30,242 --> 00:34:32,070
That's a good lesson in life.

731
00:34:32,157 --> 00:34:34,028
Always tell the truth.
And be brave.

732
00:34:34,898 --> 00:34:38,250
This just became the best thing
that happened to me in 2020.

733
00:34:40,165 --> 00:34:41,992
How many times have you

734
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,257
guys had a conversation

735
00:34:45,344 --> 00:34:49,304
directly about race in school
or with your friends?

736
00:34:49,391 --> 00:34:52,351
Never. Not really.

737
00:34:52,438 --> 00:34:54,440
Once on Martin Luther King Day

738
00:34:54,527 --> 00:34:56,572
but all we talked about the
I Have a Dream speech.

739
00:34:57,747 --> 00:34:59,793
My friend's little sister

740
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,970
is being bullied
for being Jewish, and she

741
00:35:03,057 --> 00:35:05,190
got a note saying
to kill herself.

742
00:35:05,277 --> 00:35:07,583
And, like, the school is not
really doing anything about it.

743
00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:09,107
She said that
she didn't believe in

744
00:35:09,194 --> 00:35:11,065
Santa Claus
because she was Jewish.

745
00:35:11,152 --> 00:35:13,676
And then a bunch of people,
held her down and

746
00:35:13,763 --> 00:35:15,722
Saira: Oh, my God

747
00:35:15,809 --> 00:35:18,159
And beat her up, and there
was one or two kids who

748
00:35:18,246 --> 00:35:20,335
tried to help her but there
wasn't much they could do.

749
00:35:21,336 --> 00:35:23,033
And that's the thing.

750
00:35:23,121 --> 00:35:26,820
It's the silence of the
the masses that...you know.

751
00:35:26,907 --> 00:35:28,691
Yeah.

752
00:35:28,778 --> 00:35:31,303
In Spanish class,
an anonymous person

753
00:35:31,390 --> 00:35:33,653
said that I should leave the
school for being brown.

754
00:35:33,740 --> 00:35:35,481
And every single person

755
00:35:35,568 --> 00:35:37,961
at the table and the table
behind us heard.

756
00:35:38,048 --> 00:35:40,094
And they just went back
to writing.

757
00:35:40,703 --> 00:35:42,314
We all get lumped
together, right?

758
00:35:42,401 --> 00:35:43,750
Yeah.

759
00:35:43,837 --> 00:35:46,318
Growing up, this happened
all the time.

760
00:35:47,232 --> 00:35:49,973
And I told my parents
one time, my mom,

761
00:35:50,060 --> 00:35:52,585
and basically
she was like, just

762
00:35:52,672 --> 00:35:53,716
stop.

763
00:35:53,803 --> 00:35:55,153
Like, this is the way it is.

764
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:56,676
And so I never said
anything again.

765
00:35:56,763 --> 00:35:58,678
And that's what part of the

766
00:35:58,765 --> 00:36:00,201
I felt like I deserved it.

767
00:36:00,288 --> 00:36:01,898
This is
this is just part and parcel.

768
00:36:01,985 --> 00:36:03,422
And so it felt like a little bit

769
00:36:03,509 --> 00:36:05,641
of a victory to me
that he at least told me.

770
00:36:05,728 --> 00:36:06,773
He felt unsafe.

771
00:36:06,860 --> 00:36:08,166
He felt unsafe at the school.

772
00:36:12,779 --> 00:36:14,868
It's a lot for
kids to deal with.

773
00:36:14,955 --> 00:36:16,043
I'm very sorry, baby.

774
00:36:16,130 --> 00:36:18,741
I am too.

775
00:36:18,828 --> 00:36:20,265
It's OK.

776
00:36:21,004 --> 00:36:23,529
Do we have a white person ban
in this country right now?

777
00:36:24,486 --> 00:36:27,533
Do we have a white woman ban
in this country right now?

778
00:36:27,620 --> 00:36:30,013
Do we have a Christian ban
in this country right now?

779
00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:31,885
Do we have a Jewish ban
in this country?

780
00:36:31,972 --> 00:36:34,192
What ban do we have
in this country right now?

781
00:36:35,497 --> 00:36:36,759
Muslim.

782
00:36:36,846 --> 00:36:40,067
We have a Muslim ban
in this country.

783
00:36:40,154 --> 00:36:42,417
And it makes sense
with what happened with my son

784
00:36:42,504 --> 00:36:45,768
because the day before he got
in the fight with a friend

785
00:36:45,855 --> 00:36:48,771
who was not a friend
but was Muslim,

786
00:36:48,858 --> 00:36:50,469
the day before,

787
00:36:50,556 --> 00:36:52,340
I guess on the Internet,
it was Kill the Muslims Day.

788
00:36:52,427 --> 00:36:54,168
Oh, my God. That's a thing?

789
00:36:54,255 --> 00:36:55,822
He didn't know about it.

790
00:36:55,909 --> 00:36:57,867
I didn't know about,
but the school knew about.

791
00:36:57,954 --> 00:36:59,913
So then when he got
into a fight with a

792
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,785
with a boy in his class
who's Muslim, that apparently

793
00:37:02,872 --> 00:37:04,613
had been going on for years.

794
00:37:04,700 --> 00:37:07,616
Of course, then my son,
it makes sense.

795
00:37:07,703 --> 00:37:09,270
The school
would be hypersensitive

796
00:37:10,924 --> 00:37:15,145
but as a mother, how
do I explain that to my son?

797
00:37:15,233 --> 00:37:18,323
Like, I don't know what
is the right thing to say.

798
00:37:18,410 --> 00:37:20,760
So I'll tell you what,
that's your privilege.

799
00:37:20,847 --> 00:37:23,241
And you're acknowledging it.

800
00:37:23,328 --> 00:37:24,546
To say I don't know how to

801
00:37:24,633 --> 00:37:26,156
talk to my son.

802
00:37:26,244 --> 00:37:27,941
He experienced in his mind
and in my mind,

803
00:37:28,028 --> 00:37:29,421
he absolutely didn't.

804
00:37:29,508 --> 00:37:30,857
He experienced
a tiny little fraction,

805
00:37:30,944 --> 00:37:33,425
my little eight year old boy,

806
00:37:33,512 --> 00:37:35,340
who's the sweetest
little boy on the planet.

807
00:37:35,427 --> 00:37:37,516
His first week of school
in the second grade,

808
00:37:38,212 --> 00:37:41,171
a little white girl told him,
Your skin is disgusting.

809
00:37:41,259 --> 00:37:42,651
You don't belong
in this school.

810
00:37:44,174 --> 00:37:45,959
How can we help our kids?

811
00:37:46,046 --> 00:37:48,831
How can we change it
like we have young children.

812
00:37:48,918 --> 00:37:50,442
What would you say?

813
00:37:50,529 --> 00:37:53,532
What do we do as parents
with young children?

814
00:37:53,619 --> 00:37:55,534
How do we change this
to not...

815
00:37:55,621 --> 00:37:59,886
Acknowledging your racism
and your white privilege

816
00:37:59,973 --> 00:38:02,323
and having a conversation
with your kids

817
00:38:02,410 --> 00:38:06,109
from the time that they were
little, and in step one,

818
00:38:06,196 --> 00:38:10,113
truly, and it seems easy,
but right now

819
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,116
we're seeing that it's
not, is not getting fragile.

820
00:38:13,203 --> 00:38:16,685
And by fragile, not getting
angry, not getting defensive,

821
00:38:16,772 --> 00:38:20,515
not getting upset
and believing us.

822
00:38:20,602 --> 00:38:21,951
Like, please,

823
00:38:22,038 --> 00:38:23,562
whatever you do
when you leave here,

824
00:38:23,649 --> 00:38:25,955
do not teach your kids to be
colorblind.

825
00:38:26,042 --> 00:38:27,566
Do not talk about
colorblindness.

826
00:38:27,653 --> 00:38:29,002
Don't say that,

827
00:38:29,089 --> 00:38:30,525
that I don't see
the color of your skin.

828
00:38:30,612 --> 00:38:32,962
And we cut ourselves
open, it's bleeding red.

829
00:38:34,224 --> 00:38:35,661
The thing
that really needs to happen,

830
00:38:35,748 --> 00:38:38,011
frankly, is white
women need to come together.

831
00:38:38,098 --> 00:38:39,839
You guys need to come together
because until

832
00:38:39,926 --> 00:38:42,320
and unless you come together,
there's no hope for us.

833
00:38:42,407 --> 00:38:44,104
And right now,
what's happening is

834
00:38:44,191 --> 00:38:46,933
white Democratic women
are attacking

835
00:38:47,020 --> 00:38:49,631
white Republican women
and vice versa.

836
00:38:49,718 --> 00:38:51,198
And you both are taking

837
00:38:51,285 --> 00:38:53,243
the moral high ground,
and you're all the same.

838
00:38:54,984 --> 00:38:59,337
I knew! I knew that
Donald Trump was going to win.

839
00:38:59,424 --> 00:39:02,383
The minute he started
talking about Mexican rapists,

840
00:39:02,470 --> 00:39:05,691
I knew that was going to be
a benefit, not a detriment.

841
00:39:05,778 --> 00:39:07,388
They're bringing drugs.

842
00:39:07,475 --> 00:39:08,607
They're bringing crime.

843
00:39:08,694 --> 00:39:10,304
They're rapists.

844
00:39:10,391 --> 00:39:12,045
They want to change your
religion. I don't think so.

845
00:39:12,132 --> 00:39:13,612
Not going to happen.

846
00:39:13,699 --> 00:39:16,179
I am the least racist person
in this room.

847
00:39:16,266 --> 00:39:17,964
Are you racist?

848
00:39:18,051 --> 00:39:21,663
I am the least racist person
that you have ever met!

849
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:23,752
President Trump
is not backing away

850
00:39:23,839 --> 00:39:25,972
from his stunningly racist
attack

851
00:39:26,059 --> 00:39:27,930
on a group of minority members
of Congress.

852
00:39:28,017 --> 00:39:30,019
Instead,
he's trying to defend it.

853
00:39:30,106 --> 00:39:32,152
They're not happy here.
They can leave.

854
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,023
Why do we want these people
from, quote,

855
00:39:34,110 --> 00:39:35,938
all these shithole countries
here?

856
00:39:36,025 --> 00:39:37,853
What the hell is going on?

857
00:39:40,116 --> 00:39:43,729
But what Donald Trump's
presidency has done for me

858
00:39:43,816 --> 00:39:45,644
has completely

859
00:39:45,731 --> 00:39:49,604
taken the veil off of white
liberals and white Democrats.

860
00:39:49,691 --> 00:39:53,478
And your complicity
in Donald Trump.

861
00:39:53,565 --> 00:39:56,263
Over the next few months

862
00:39:56,350 --> 00:39:58,004
you know, I started
paying a lot more attention.

863
00:39:58,091 --> 00:40:00,093
I typed out an essay.

864
00:40:00,180 --> 00:40:01,529
I'm a brown woman
who's breaking up

865
00:40:01,616 --> 00:40:03,270
with the Democratic Party.

866
00:40:03,357 --> 00:40:05,054
And I just laid out
like I'm done with the party.

867
00:40:05,141 --> 00:40:06,534
Like they don't care.

868
00:40:06,621 --> 00:40:08,057
They don't care
about black people.

869
00:40:08,144 --> 00:40:09,711
They don't care
about marginalized people.

870
00:40:09,798 --> 00:40:11,191
They care about themselves
and being white saviors.

871
00:40:11,278 --> 00:40:12,845
And I put that into words.

872
00:40:12,932 --> 00:40:16,588
The Huffington Post ran it
and it went fully viral.

873
00:40:16,675 --> 00:40:19,591
Dear Democratic Party,
you were the love of my life.

874
00:40:20,243 --> 00:40:22,071
I fell in love early and hard.

875
00:40:22,158 --> 00:40:23,812
I've been the kind
of party loyalist,

876
00:40:23,899 --> 00:40:26,859
the kind of sappy
soapbox-y, cliched devotee

877
00:40:26,946 --> 00:40:29,165
that makes Fox News
moonwalk with glee.

878
00:40:29,949 --> 00:40:32,865
The first vote I ever cast
at 18 was for Bill Clinton.

879
00:40:32,952 --> 00:40:35,345
The last vote I cast
was for his wife, Hillary.

880
00:40:36,042 --> 00:40:38,871
My adoration for Hillary
bordered on mania

881
00:40:38,958 --> 00:40:41,874
In college, I named my ficus
plant after her.

882
00:40:41,961 --> 00:40:44,529
20 years later,
I canvassed, held fundraisers,

883
00:40:44,616 --> 00:40:47,096
even dragged my eight year
old daughter door-to-door.

884
00:40:47,183 --> 00:40:48,228
I loved you so much

885
00:40:48,315 --> 00:40:50,404
I cried each time I voted.

886
00:40:51,274 --> 00:40:53,276
You've been
that kind of mad love to me.

887
00:40:53,363 --> 00:40:56,062
And now I want to break up.

888
00:40:56,149 --> 00:40:59,935
I realize now that the love
has been one sided unrequited.

889
00:41:00,022 --> 00:41:02,372
You've never recognized me
as a brown woman.

890
00:41:02,460 --> 00:41:04,157
You've taken my love,

891
00:41:04,244 --> 00:41:07,856
my money, my tokenism
with nary anything in return.

892
00:41:07,943 --> 00:41:09,249
You married the white woman

893
00:41:09,336 --> 00:41:11,599
and hooked up with me
on the side.

894
00:41:11,686 --> 00:41:14,254
Black Lives Matter is a second
or third thought.

895
00:41:14,341 --> 00:41:15,908
Where's your outrage

896
00:41:15,995 --> 00:41:17,866
over the national epidemic
of police brutality

897
00:41:17,953 --> 00:41:19,215
against Black people?

898
00:41:19,302 --> 00:41:20,608
And for all
you're talking about

899
00:41:20,695 --> 00:41:22,349
dreamers,
there's been little action.

900
00:41:22,436 --> 00:41:24,394
You don't seem to give a crap
about kids of color

901
00:41:24,482 --> 00:41:25,787
who will be kicked
out of this country.

902
00:41:25,874 --> 00:41:27,789
The only country they know.

903
00:41:27,876 --> 00:41:29,878
What if all those
dreamers were white?

904
00:41:29,965 --> 00:41:32,315
I suspect a very different
outcome.

905
00:41:32,402 --> 00:41:34,970
My fellow brown and black
sisters started to notice too.

906
00:41:35,057 --> 00:41:37,886
And then the chatter began,
first in whispered hushes

907
00:41:37,973 --> 00:41:39,714
and then loud and clear,

908
00:41:39,801 --> 00:41:42,108
you are a party
of white feminists,

909
00:41:42,717 --> 00:41:45,024
of white feminism,
the kind of feminism

910
00:41:45,111 --> 00:41:47,809
that focuses on the struggles
of white women.

911
00:41:48,549 --> 00:41:50,595
It was the first time
I'd heard the term most likely

912
00:41:50,682 --> 00:41:53,162
because self awareness is
hard. And I was a brown woman

913
00:41:53,249 --> 00:41:54,990
trapped
in a white feminist world.

914
00:41:55,077 --> 00:41:56,426
But then I woke up and I saw you

915
00:41:56,514 --> 00:41:59,168
with clear eyes
for the very first time.

916
00:41:59,255 --> 00:42:01,127
I know there are
some good ones among you.

917
00:42:01,214 --> 00:42:02,694
But for every Kamala Harris,

918
00:42:02,781 --> 00:42:04,565
Maxine Waters,
or Pramila Jayapal

919
00:42:04,652 --> 00:42:07,220
who are sticking their brown
and black necks out for me,

920
00:42:07,307 --> 00:42:08,787
there are dozens of white
women Democrats

921
00:42:08,874 --> 00:42:10,223
who want me to shut my trap

922
00:42:10,310 --> 00:42:11,616
and just say please
and thank you.

923
00:42:11,703 --> 00:42:13,356
I should be grateful
for scraps

924
00:42:13,443 --> 00:42:16,142
while white women enjoy
a proper marriage with you.

925
00:42:16,229 --> 00:42:17,883
I'm done with all that.

926
00:42:17,970 --> 00:42:20,015
In the meantime,
I'll be on the sidelines,

927
00:42:20,102 --> 00:42:23,062
waiting, watching,
hoping, praying.

928
00:42:23,149 --> 00:42:24,324
You broke my heart

929
00:42:29,024 --> 00:42:31,853
The response was,
Why don't you run for office?

930
00:42:31,940 --> 00:42:33,986
Which is so funny
because it's so privileged.

931
00:42:34,073 --> 00:42:36,641
Like the amount of privilege
it takes to run for office.

932
00:42:36,728 --> 00:42:38,556
But most people can't do that.

933
00:42:38,643 --> 00:42:40,122
If I don't challenge

934
00:42:40,209 --> 00:42:42,037
the status quo,
then I need to shut up.

935
00:42:42,124 --> 00:42:44,562
If I have the privilege
to challenge the status quo

936
00:42:44,649 --> 00:42:46,564
and I don't,
then I need to shut up.

937
00:42:48,522 --> 00:42:50,568
And I said,
I'm running for Congress.

938
00:42:52,134 --> 00:42:53,527
And I just did it.

939
00:42:54,223 --> 00:42:56,704
People call me an
angry brown woman.

940
00:42:56,791 --> 00:43:00,795
Too ambitious, bitchy, bossy,
pushy, shrill, emotional,

941
00:43:00,882 --> 00:43:03,189
abrasive. impatient, nasty.

942
00:43:03,276 --> 00:43:04,756
Why are you running
as a Democrat?

943
00:43:05,495 --> 00:43:06,975
I'm running as a Democrat,

944
00:43:07,062 --> 00:43:08,194
because I think we can take
the party back.

945
00:43:09,325 --> 00:43:11,284
I thought, You know what?

946
00:43:11,371 --> 00:43:15,201
the chances of me winning
are less than slim to none.

947
00:43:15,288 --> 00:43:17,812
But I'm going to mainstream

948
00:43:17,899 --> 00:43:21,294
the topic of white supremacy
within the Democratic Party.

949
00:43:21,381 --> 00:43:23,470
Come hell or high water.

950
00:43:23,557 --> 00:43:26,604
Regina: Saira's campaign
was very unusual

951
00:43:26,691 --> 00:43:29,432
in that the people
who worked on her

952
00:43:29,519 --> 00:43:32,566
campaign
were largely people of color.

953
00:43:32,653 --> 00:43:36,918
The commitment was huge,
and it was very different

954
00:43:37,005 --> 00:43:38,920
from most campaigns.

955
00:43:39,007 --> 00:43:41,444
Those kids in cages
could be your kids.

956
00:43:41,531 --> 00:43:43,533
Those parents could be me.

957
00:43:44,491 --> 00:43:46,319
Those parents could be you.

958
00:43:46,406 --> 00:43:48,103
Let's be clear about this.

959
00:43:48,190 --> 00:43:50,366
Removing
kids from their parents

960
00:43:50,453 --> 00:43:53,282
is dictionary
definition of fascism!

961
00:43:53,369 --> 00:43:55,154
And then I started picking up
a lot of steam.

962
00:43:55,241 --> 00:43:57,765
A lot of steam
by the progressives,

963
00:43:57,852 --> 00:44:00,028
by brown people, by black
people, by white millennials.

964
00:44:00,115 --> 00:44:01,769
By people in tech...

965
00:44:05,033 --> 00:44:07,862
So how many people in this
room voted for Donald Trump?

966
00:44:09,211 --> 00:44:11,300
Okay,
How many people did not vote

967
00:44:11,387 --> 00:44:12,780
for Donald Trump?

968
00:44:14,434 --> 00:44:16,741
The ones of us who did not
vote for Donald Trump.

969
00:44:16,828 --> 00:44:20,527
Do you think you're less
racist than these two?

970
00:44:21,876 --> 00:44:24,618
That's a weird judgment.

971
00:44:24,705 --> 00:44:27,969
At least I'm more aware of my
racism than those two.

972
00:44:28,056 --> 00:44:29,449
That's pretty ignorant.

973
00:44:29,536 --> 00:44:32,060
The reason
these conversations are hard

974
00:44:32,147 --> 00:44:33,758
is we've never had truth
and reconciliation

975
00:44:33,845 --> 00:44:35,150
in this country.

976
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,283
Let's take a step back.

977
00:44:37,370 --> 00:44:40,590
Based on the genocide
of indigenous people,

978
00:44:41,330 --> 00:44:44,682
the enslavement of Africans,
so brown and black

979
00:44:44,769 --> 00:44:47,380
and the Chinese were brought
in to build a railroad.

980
00:44:47,467 --> 00:44:51,166
And then like Asians, like me,
my family was brought in

981
00:44:51,253 --> 00:44:53,603
to deal with science
and by the way,

982
00:44:53,691 --> 00:44:56,911
the Indians left India
because the British committed

983
00:44:56,998 --> 00:44:58,086
genocide in India.

984
00:44:58,173 --> 00:44:59,740
It's literally

985
00:44:59,827 --> 00:45:02,003
whiteness has killed
the brown and black world.

986
00:45:03,570 --> 00:45:05,615
Donald Trump has
not created racism.

987
00:45:05,703 --> 00:45:08,967
Donald Trump
has shown us what it is.

988
00:45:09,054 --> 00:45:12,448
One of the questions
I have is, why is it

989
00:45:12,535 --> 00:45:16,061
that white people think
they're the only Americans,

990
00:45:16,148 --> 00:45:19,020
that they think
they're real Americans,

991
00:45:19,107 --> 00:45:22,067
and the rest of us are like
pretend Americans.

992
00:45:22,154 --> 00:45:24,156
What is that about?

993
00:45:24,243 --> 00:45:27,333
I think I have a little bit
of a problem with the 'We vs I'

994
00:45:27,420 --> 00:45:29,552
I think that
there is the big perpetual

995
00:45:29,639 --> 00:45:32,468
We, right?
We white women for sure.

996
00:45:32,555 --> 00:45:36,603
But I think there's also
we African-Americans

997
00:45:36,690 --> 00:45:39,693
and the 'We were slaves!' Right?

998
00:45:39,780 --> 00:45:42,130
And 'We, these things
happened to us!'

999
00:45:43,131 --> 00:45:44,698
Doesn't happen to everybody,
right?

1000
00:45:44,785 --> 00:45:46,569
I mean and you I understand.

1001
00:45:46,656 --> 00:45:48,354
And I am I am here -

1002
00:45:48,441 --> 00:45:50,704
It happened to all
African-Americans.

1003
00:45:50,791 --> 00:45:52,924
It didn't happen to you.

1004
00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:56,884
Listen, one of
the things that we know

1005
00:45:56,971 --> 00:45:58,538
one of the things -
let me just say,

1006
00:45:58,625 --> 00:45:59,669
I have a lot of Native American

1007
00:45:59,757 --> 00:46:00,801
history, and I don't -

1008
00:46:00,888 --> 00:46:02,672
Science, science -

1009
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,675
Time out. Are you saying that
black people,

1010
00:46:05,763 --> 00:46:07,199
African-Americans, descendants

1011
00:46:07,286 --> 00:46:09,157
of slaves, are taking
advantage of that?

1012
00:46:09,244 --> 00:46:11,072
That's not what I am saying.

1013
00:46:11,159 --> 00:46:13,031
You just said that you have
a lot of Native American -

1014
00:46:13,118 --> 00:46:16,774
- and you don't take advantage
of the government...

1015
00:46:17,905 --> 00:46:20,299
You actually know
that more

1016
00:46:20,386 --> 00:46:24,042
white people are on welfare
than black people right?

1017
00:46:24,129 --> 00:46:25,130
You know that don't you?

1018
00:46:25,217 --> 00:46:27,175
Well, I don't know if I...

1019
00:46:27,262 --> 00:46:30,048
Well what are you saying?!
I don't understand.

1020
00:46:30,135 --> 00:46:32,354
It's a racist statement, when
people are, I feel like

1021
00:46:32,441 --> 00:46:35,880
there's a lot of conversation
where I constantly do

1022
00:46:35,967 --> 00:46:40,885
feel like it is a 'We
African-American' culture

1023
00:46:40,972 --> 00:46:43,801
bad things are happening
to us. Big picture 'We'.

1024
00:46:43,888 --> 00:46:47,369
And I do agree that
there is a lot of big picture

1025
00:46:47,456 --> 00:46:48,936
We bad things happening -

1026
00:46:49,023 --> 00:46:50,851
All the time!

1027
00:46:50,938 --> 00:46:52,070
[crosstalk]

1028
00:46:52,157 --> 00:46:53,549
At these dinners

1029
00:46:53,636 --> 00:46:56,726
we see, white women
behaving badly.

1030
00:46:56,814 --> 00:46:58,119
And that bad behavior

1031
00:46:58,206 --> 00:47:00,992
looks like denial
of white supremacy.

1032
00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:06,519
Denial of racism
and even denial of slavery.

1033
00:47:06,606 --> 00:47:08,564
This is nothing new.

1034
00:47:08,651 --> 00:47:11,132
This has been
going on for centuries.

1035
00:47:23,753 --> 00:47:26,539
Let's go back to 1876

1036
00:47:26,626 --> 00:47:29,411
when a former slave owner
named Lucy Forman

1037
00:47:29,498 --> 00:47:33,546
Harley said she was assaulted
by two black men

1038
00:47:33,633 --> 00:47:36,897
leading to a white
paramilitary mob,

1039
00:47:36,984 --> 00:47:40,466
killing as many
as 100 black men

1040
00:47:40,553 --> 00:47:44,339
which witnesses later said
was just an excuse

1041
00:47:44,426 --> 00:47:47,299
to suppress black voters.

1042
00:47:47,386 --> 00:47:49,127
In 1898

1043
00:47:49,214 --> 00:47:53,740
Rebecca Latimer Felton who
by the way was a suffragette

1044
00:47:53,827 --> 00:47:57,396
and the first female
United States senator,

1045
00:47:57,483 --> 00:48:00,529
called for the lynching
of thousands of black men

1046
00:48:00,616 --> 00:48:03,837
if it meant protecting
white women.

1047
00:48:05,056 --> 00:48:08,711
Her claim sparked a riot
that killed 25 black men.

1048
00:48:08,798 --> 00:48:12,106
But of course she's
remembered as a hero,

1049
00:48:12,193 --> 00:48:15,675
a progressive icon
for women's rights.

1050
00:48:16,502 --> 00:48:19,374
Fast forward to 1908.

1051
00:48:19,461 --> 00:48:22,769
Mabel Hallam
claimed a black man raped her.

1052
00:48:24,075 --> 00:48:26,033
Black neighborhoods
were burned,

1053
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:30,211
black civilians were shot
and elderly black men

1054
00:48:30,298 --> 00:48:34,824
were lynched. And just two weeks
later she admitted she lied.

1055
00:48:34,912 --> 00:48:39,307
In 1921 all that Sarah Paige
had to do was scream

1056
00:48:40,439 --> 00:48:43,529
and the whole black community
was burnt to the ground,

1057
00:48:44,356 --> 00:48:47,272
killing over 300 black people.

1058
00:48:47,359 --> 00:48:51,580
This event is known
as the Tulsa Massacre.

1059
00:48:51,667 --> 00:48:53,060
In 1931

1060
00:48:53,147 --> 00:48:56,150
Victoria Price and
Ruby Bates accused

1061
00:48:56,237 --> 00:48:58,674
nine black teenagers of rape.

1062
00:48:59,588 --> 00:49:03,114
The Scottsboro Boys
went through years of trials

1063
00:49:03,201 --> 00:49:07,292
and jail time only
for one of the girls to admit

1064
00:49:07,379 --> 00:49:09,033
she made up the whole thing.

1065
00:49:10,469 --> 00:49:11,992
In 1955

1066
00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:13,689
Carolyn Bryant said

1067
00:49:13,776 --> 00:49:18,172
14 year old Emmett
Till was flirting with her.

1068
00:49:18,259 --> 00:49:21,654
We all know the story of
Emmett Till, his brave mother

1069
00:49:21,741 --> 00:49:25,614
decided to have an open casket
so that people could see

1070
00:49:25,701 --> 00:49:29,227
how he was tortured
and murdered.

1071
00:49:30,663 --> 00:49:32,491
Out of nowhere,
this black guy came up

1072
00:49:32,578 --> 00:49:34,797
and just opened the door
and jumped in the car.

1073
00:49:35,668 --> 00:49:38,932
In 1994 Susan Smith

1074
00:49:39,019 --> 00:49:41,848
claimed a black man
kidnaped her kids,

1075
00:49:41,935 --> 00:49:45,678
sparking a manhunt
that labeled every black man

1076
00:49:45,765 --> 00:49:49,116
in South Carolina
a potential child killer.

1077
00:49:49,856 --> 00:49:52,685
It just seems so unfair
somebody could take such,

1078
00:49:52,772 --> 00:49:54,208
two beautiful children.

1079
00:49:54,904 --> 00:49:56,254
The true story?

1080
00:49:56,341 --> 00:49:58,996
Susan Smith killed her
children herself.

1081
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,781
In 2009

1082
00:50:01,868 --> 00:50:04,653
Bonnie Sweeten claims
she and her daughter

1083
00:50:04,740 --> 00:50:07,613
were kidnapped by a black man
so that she could

1084
00:50:07,700 --> 00:50:10,398
swindle her boss
and go to Disney World.

1085
00:50:11,051 --> 00:50:16,535
A few years later, in 2016,
rookie cop Sherry Hall

1086
00:50:16,622 --> 00:50:19,625
claimed she was attacked
by a black gunman

1087
00:50:20,582 --> 00:50:23,194
starting a massive manhunt.

1088
00:50:23,281 --> 00:50:25,370
But the attack
had never happened.

1089
00:50:25,457 --> 00:50:27,763
She staged it
all for attention.

1090
00:50:28,677 --> 00:50:31,680
Which brings us
back to 2020.

1091
00:50:31,767 --> 00:50:33,291
I'm going to tell them there's

1092
00:50:33,378 --> 00:50:34,640
an African-American man
threatening my life.

1093
00:50:34,727 --> 00:50:36,424
There is an
African-American man

1094
00:50:36,511 --> 00:50:38,078
I am in Central Park

1095
00:50:38,165 --> 00:50:39,427
I am being threatened
by a man in the Ramble!

1096
00:50:39,514 --> 00:50:41,560
Please send the cops
immediately!

1097
00:50:41,647 --> 00:50:44,302
Christian Cooper
was birdwatching.

1098
00:50:44,389 --> 00:50:48,088
More white women nonsense.

1099
00:50:56,662 --> 00:50:59,708
I guess what we should do
is come up with a date.

1100
00:51:00,535 --> 00:51:01,797
Are we waiting on?

1101
00:51:01,884 --> 00:51:03,016
We're waiting on a
trademark, right?

1102
00:51:03,103 --> 00:51:05,932
That, and money!

1103
00:51:06,759 --> 00:51:09,370
Because we need money
to do the software and...

1104
00:51:09,457 --> 00:51:11,198
Right. Okay.

1105
00:51:11,285 --> 00:51:14,027
You know, I don't think that
we even understand what...

1106
00:51:14,114 --> 00:51:16,421
I think it would have to be an
app, right? I think so, too.

1107
00:51:16,508 --> 00:51:18,553
That's the only way
we're going to manage.

1108
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,468
Yeah. Do you have you don't
have your computer, do you?

1109
00:51:20,555 --> 00:51:21,469
I do.

1110
00:51:21,556 --> 00:51:22,427
Could you pull it up?

1111
00:51:22,514 --> 00:51:24,733
Yes. So.

1112
00:51:25,734 --> 00:51:26,735
Oh, my gosh.

1113
00:51:26,822 --> 00:51:29,825
So this computer

1114
00:51:30,783 --> 00:51:33,090
is fantastic except that

1115
00:51:35,483 --> 00:51:36,745
It needs to be plugged in.

1116
00:51:38,704 --> 00:51:41,228
What I just want to know is,

1117
00:51:41,315 --> 00:51:43,187
are we moving along with
getting dinners set up?

1118
00:51:45,798 --> 00:51:48,844
Look, look, let's
take a real step back here.

1119
00:51:48,931 --> 00:51:50,890
We have all these black
and brown women

1120
00:51:50,977 --> 00:51:52,935
who want to do this
work around the country,

1121
00:51:53,022 --> 00:51:55,199
and we don't have money
from white women

1122
00:51:55,286 --> 00:51:57,810
to fund software
for them to be able to do it.

1123
00:51:57,897 --> 00:51:59,377
So part of our business

1124
00:51:59,464 --> 00:52:01,727
model is to actually
get white women

1125
00:52:01,814 --> 00:52:04,556
to think about how
they're spending money. Right?

1126
00:52:04,643 --> 00:52:10,170
So if you're unwilling
to drop $200 or $100 or $500,

1127
00:52:10,257 --> 00:52:13,913
but you're willing to buy
a $5,000 purse

1128
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,308
or you're willing to take
a $10,000 trip to Europe,

1129
00:52:17,395 --> 00:52:19,484
you know, once a year,
every two years,

1130
00:52:19,571 --> 00:52:21,050
three times a year,
whatever it is,

1131
00:52:21,138 --> 00:52:22,182
how you spend your money

1132
00:52:22,269 --> 00:52:24,532
shows you how you value things

1133
00:52:24,619 --> 00:52:26,752
because we live
in a capitalistic society.

1134
00:52:26,839 --> 00:52:28,580
And so

1135
00:52:28,667 --> 00:52:30,712
when you have white women
patting themselves on the back

1136
00:52:30,799 --> 00:52:32,236
and showing you like,

1137
00:52:32,323 --> 00:52:34,368
'Me me me pick me,
I'm like the most woke!'

1138
00:52:35,326 --> 00:52:37,763
And then you're like,
Okay, it's going to be $250.

1139
00:52:37,850 --> 00:52:40,418
And they're like, Woah!

1140
00:52:40,505 --> 00:52:42,246
I mean, maybe that's it.

1141
00:52:42,333 --> 00:52:44,987
Maybe this, maybe
this isn't a thing.

1142
00:52:45,074 --> 00:52:46,511
But we have to keep trying.

1143
00:52:46,598 --> 00:52:47,860
And because

1144
00:52:47,947 --> 00:52:49,601
ultimately, that
could be the answer.

1145
00:52:49,688 --> 00:52:52,038
It could be a social
experiment where it's like -

1146
00:52:52,125 --> 00:52:53,387
It failed.

1147
00:52:55,911 --> 00:52:59,654
I constantly toy
with shutting it all down.

1148
00:52:59,741 --> 00:53:01,090
It's thankless

1149
00:53:01,178 --> 00:53:03,049
and you know,
where's the change?

1150
00:53:03,136 --> 00:53:05,486
It's thankless
and where is the change?

1151
00:53:08,228 --> 00:53:12,928
Why is it that being
called a racist

1152
00:53:13,015 --> 00:53:15,192
makes you so upset?

1153
00:53:17,150 --> 00:53:20,240
It doesn't make me upset
anymore, but it would have

1154
00:53:20,327 --> 00:53:24,331
a while ago.
I needed to understand

1155
00:53:24,418 --> 00:53:27,769
what the term means
and look at myself.

1156
00:53:27,856 --> 00:53:30,685
And I just I believe that
every white person is racist

1157
00:53:30,772 --> 00:53:32,383
because of the system.

1158
00:53:32,470 --> 00:53:34,602
And I had to learn
about the system to get that.

1159
00:53:34,689 --> 00:53:36,996
But why would it have
bothered you before?

1160
00:53:37,083 --> 00:53:39,216
Because
it's such a horrible word,

1161
00:53:39,303 --> 00:53:41,174
and I don't want to be
so horrible.

1162
00:53:41,261 --> 00:53:42,175
Okay.

1163
00:53:42,262 --> 00:53:43,698
In a nutshell,

1164
00:53:43,785 --> 00:53:48,529
I don't want to see myself
as being so bad.

1165
00:53:48,616 --> 00:53:50,966
I have had to work
so hard on my shitty

1166
00:53:51,053 --> 00:53:52,229
self-image to begin with.

1167
00:53:53,752 --> 00:53:56,407
Do I wanna add that
one to it? Racist? Oh God.

1168
00:53:58,147 --> 00:53:59,453
You know, I'll be blunt.

1169
00:53:59,540 --> 00:54:00,715
I've struggled
with liking myself

1170
00:54:00,802 --> 00:54:04,371
for most of my
adult life so...

1171
00:54:04,458 --> 00:54:07,113
But I don't have
a problem with it now

1172
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,551
because I've been practicing
and working on it for a while,

1173
00:54:10,638 --> 00:54:13,032
but, a while ago...

1174
00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:17,036
And it is work isn't it.
Yeah, it's work.

1175
00:54:17,123 --> 00:54:21,170
Sarah, I'm curious
how you feel about,

1176
00:54:21,258 --> 00:54:25,305
as I've said more than once
and they've mentioned it too,

1177
00:54:25,392 --> 00:54:28,047
is just this idea
or this theory

1178
00:54:28,917 --> 00:54:32,269
that every single white person
in this country is racist.

1179
00:54:33,792 --> 00:54:35,359
You know, I would say, like,
at the beginning

1180
00:54:35,446 --> 00:54:37,230
of the conversation,
it was a little offensive

1181
00:54:37,317 --> 00:54:39,058
I think throughout
the conversation

1182
00:54:39,145 --> 00:54:40,625
and understanding a little bit

1183
00:54:40,712 --> 00:54:43,367
more of my ignorance
and the definition of it.

1184
00:54:43,454 --> 00:54:45,238
I feel like I've shifted
a little bit.

1185
00:54:45,325 --> 00:54:46,979
I will say that.

1186
00:54:47,066 --> 00:54:48,110
I, um...

1187
00:54:50,635 --> 00:54:52,027
I don't want to be thought of

1188
00:54:52,114 --> 00:54:53,812
of somebody
that doesn't like somebody

1189
00:54:53,899 --> 00:54:55,770
because of the color
of their skin.

1190
00:54:55,857 --> 00:54:57,294
And to me, that's where

1191
00:54:57,381 --> 00:54:59,557
where racism,
the term racism, falls.

1192
00:55:00,297 --> 00:55:02,037
And so

1193
00:55:02,124 --> 00:55:04,475
I guess learning a little bit
about that, that's

1194
00:55:04,562 --> 00:55:08,696
not necessarily what that
definition of racism means

1195
00:55:08,783 --> 00:55:10,698
changes it for me
a little bit.

1196
00:55:10,785 --> 00:55:12,613
The fear that I have

1197
00:55:12,700 --> 00:55:16,313
is that my son goes through
the experience that he did.

1198
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,576
I'm not worried about

1199
00:55:20,055 --> 00:55:23,320
him...I'm worried about him

1200
00:55:24,625 --> 00:55:27,976
becoming the white
supremacist and pushing it

1201
00:55:28,063 --> 00:55:29,238
down into the
shadows -

1202
00:55:29,326 --> 00:55:31,023
You have the conversation.

1203
00:55:31,110 --> 00:55:33,242
So, yes,
I have the conversation -

1204
00:55:33,330 --> 00:55:35,593
Over and over and over
and over and over again.

1205
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,638
It's the first step,
just like you can't

1206
00:55:37,725 --> 00:55:39,205
just like Regina always says,
like,

1207
00:55:39,292 --> 00:55:41,555
you can't change
what you don't acknowledge.

1208
00:55:41,642 --> 00:55:43,078
And the fact that you're

1209
00:55:43,165 --> 00:55:46,560
able to acknowledge
this, is a big deal.

1210
00:55:46,647 --> 00:55:47,692
It's not a small deal.

1211
00:55:47,779 --> 00:55:50,695
It's a huge deal

1212
00:55:50,782 --> 00:55:53,872
because it means you're open
and instead of this.

1213
00:55:53,959 --> 00:55:57,223
And if you're open,
then you can actually start

1214
00:55:57,310 --> 00:55:59,921
like engaging and
pass it along to your kids.

1215
00:56:15,372 --> 00:56:17,112
Hey, Saira come in!

1216
00:56:17,199 --> 00:56:18,375
Are you looking forward
to this?

1217
00:56:18,462 --> 00:56:19,724
I feel like I'm gonna
throw up.

1218
00:56:19,811 --> 00:56:21,595
I honestly think
I'm going to throw up.

1219
00:56:21,682 --> 00:56:24,555
I have not really been able
to eat anything.

1220
00:56:24,642 --> 00:56:25,817
I'm not even kidding you.

1221
00:56:25,904 --> 00:56:27,514
It's not even that bad.

1222
00:56:27,601 --> 00:56:30,125
It's gonna be OK.
It's not.

1223
00:56:30,212 --> 00:56:32,606
It's going to be okay.

1224
00:56:32,693 --> 00:56:35,261
I want to be in fetal
position, but I can't do that

1225
00:56:35,348 --> 00:56:36,828
from the dining table.

1226
00:56:36,915 --> 00:56:39,439
The last time I was thrown

1227
00:56:39,526 --> 00:56:42,399
under the bus by the super
liberal news media,

1228
00:56:43,225 --> 00:56:45,532
was when I ran for office
and shortly thereafter.

1229
00:56:45,619 --> 00:56:47,795
And I don't know that anything
can compare with that.

1230
00:56:47,882 --> 00:56:49,406
That was just awful.

1231
00:56:50,058 --> 00:56:52,757
After an incredibly
challenging campaign,

1232
00:56:52,844 --> 00:56:54,498
I lost.

1233
00:56:54,585 --> 00:56:56,978
A couple weeks after I lost,
I was in the mountains

1234
00:56:57,065 --> 00:56:58,632
with my family,

1235
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,548
and there is a professor
by the name of George

1236
00:57:01,635 --> 00:57:03,942
Yancey, black
guy out of Emory in Atlanta,

1237
00:57:04,029 --> 00:57:07,206
and he had written an essay
for The New York Times called

1238
00:57:07,293 --> 00:57:08,990
Should I Give Up on
White People?

1239
00:57:09,077 --> 00:57:10,644
Yes or no.

1240
00:57:11,340 --> 00:57:12,690
Brown and black
people cannot dismantle

1241
00:57:12,777 --> 00:57:14,518
white supremacy.
White people do.

1242
00:57:14,605 --> 00:57:16,998
That was the gist of his
of his essay.

1243
00:57:17,085 --> 00:57:21,350
And so I tweeted it and I said
long and short answer, Yes.

1244
00:57:24,441 --> 00:57:25,790
And then
Breitbart picks it up,

1245
00:57:25,877 --> 00:57:27,052
and then The Daily
Stormer picks it up

1246
00:57:30,882 --> 00:57:32,405
and then the next thing
you know, I'm

1247
00:57:32,492 --> 00:57:35,147
getting DM's
that I'm a Muslim cunt.

1248
00:57:36,931 --> 00:57:39,281
Pictures of my daughter,
your Muslim cunt daughter

1249
00:57:39,368 --> 00:57:41,458
should be drowned
in the Ganges.

1250
00:57:41,545 --> 00:57:42,937
And we're going to use

1251
00:57:43,024 --> 00:57:44,548
your entire family
as target practice.

1252
00:57:46,027 --> 00:57:46,941
over and over

1253
00:57:47,028 --> 00:57:48,421
And then they don't stop.

1254
00:57:48,508 --> 00:57:50,379
More and more news outlets
pick it up.

1255
00:57:54,340 --> 00:57:57,604
The only thing I did was say
that white people

1256
00:57:57,691 --> 00:58:00,868
were responsible for
dismantling white supremacy.

1257
00:58:00,955 --> 00:58:04,481
And as a result, I deserved
to get death threats.

1258
00:58:04,568 --> 00:58:07,048
And if you believe someone
deserves to get death threats,

1259
00:58:07,135 --> 00:58:10,791
you think that they
deserve to die.

1260
00:58:12,097 --> 00:58:14,403
The moral of the story is:

1261
00:58:14,491 --> 00:58:18,146
Shut the fuck up about racism.

1262
00:58:18,233 --> 00:58:21,236
And if you don't,
we will come for you.

1263
00:58:21,323 --> 00:58:22,455
We will come
for your children.

1264
00:58:22,542 --> 00:58:23,848
We will come for your life.

1265
00:58:24,501 --> 00:58:25,676
It is a terrible?

1266
00:58:25,763 --> 00:58:26,894
No!

1267
00:58:28,679 --> 00:58:30,376
How long is it?

1268
00:58:31,203 --> 00:58:32,944
It looks like it's
a couple of pages.

1269
00:58:33,031 --> 00:58:34,989
Would you like me
to read it out loud?

1270
00:58:35,076 --> 00:58:37,252
How are the pictures?
The pictures are great.

1271
00:58:37,339 --> 00:58:39,037
Do you want to see them?

1272
00:58:40,429 --> 00:58:43,128
Or do you want to just
sit there and be sick.

1273
00:58:43,215 --> 00:58:45,347
Okay.

1274
00:58:45,434 --> 00:58:47,175
Now see isn't that
a good picture?

1275
00:58:47,262 --> 00:58:51,963
Yeah, White women are uniquely
placed to challenge racism

1276
00:58:52,050 --> 00:58:55,096
because of their proximity
to power and wealth,

1277
00:58:55,183 --> 00:58:58,099
Jackson says. It seems unlikely
anyone would voluntarily

1278
00:58:58,186 --> 00:58:59,623
go to a dinner party

1279
00:58:59,710 --> 00:59:01,233
in which they'd be asked
one by one

1280
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,061
what was a racist thing
you did recently

1281
00:59:03,148 --> 00:59:06,020
by two women of color
before appetizers are served.

1282
00:59:06,978 --> 00:59:09,415
A lot of people hate Saira Rao!

1283
00:59:10,634 --> 00:59:13,506
Jackson recalls her
initial impressions of Rao as

1284
00:59:13,593 --> 00:59:16,074
honest and willing to call
a thing a thing.

1285
00:59:17,379 --> 00:59:19,294
But even for those
who complain,

1286
00:59:19,381 --> 00:59:21,209
something has changed.

1287
00:59:21,296 --> 00:59:22,254
Isn't that the good part?

1288
00:59:22,341 --> 00:59:23,821
It's good!!

1289
00:59:33,831 --> 00:59:37,182
I think my mom
would be extremely

1290
00:59:37,269 --> 00:59:39,401
proud of what I'm doing.

1291
00:59:39,488 --> 00:59:42,317
Though I think there would be
this tremendous fear

1292
00:59:42,404 --> 00:59:44,058
I know that I wouldn't
be doing this,

1293
00:59:44,145 --> 00:59:46,234
and I know that I wouldn't
have even woken up brown

1294
00:59:46,321 --> 00:59:48,280
if my mom was still alive.

1295
00:59:48,367 --> 00:59:50,021
And I think about that
all the time.

1296
00:59:50,108 --> 00:59:53,720
I would not be alive right now
in this incarnation

1297
00:59:53,807 --> 00:59:55,330
if my mom was still here.

1298
00:59:55,417 --> 00:59:57,289
It's a very strange thing.

1299
01:00:00,597 --> 01:00:01,510
What we're saying is

1300
01:00:01,598 --> 01:00:03,208
you guys need

1301
01:00:03,295 --> 01:00:04,513
to pull your heads
out of your asses, acknowledge

1302
01:00:04,601 --> 01:00:06,733
your own racism,
make it right.

1303
01:00:06,820 --> 01:00:08,779
Stop caping for white dudes.

1304
01:00:08,866 --> 01:00:11,608
Join us and let's
overthrow the patriarchy.

1305
01:00:13,784 --> 01:00:15,829
But none of that happens
until you acknowledge

1306
01:00:15,916 --> 01:00:17,701
your own racism.

1307
01:00:17,788 --> 01:00:19,790
But, you know,
we so many of us grow up

1308
01:00:19,877 --> 01:00:21,879
learning this wonderful history

1309
01:00:21,966 --> 01:00:24,925
and to be proud
of the founding fathers

1310
01:00:25,012 --> 01:00:27,580
and this democratic system
and blah, blah, blah, blah.

1311
01:00:27,667 --> 01:00:29,582
But it's important that we

1312
01:00:30,627 --> 01:00:33,325
learn how we've been programed.

1313
01:00:33,412 --> 01:00:35,196
The trance that we're in.

1314
01:00:35,283 --> 01:00:37,503
It's a it's a trance.
It really is.

1315
01:00:37,590 --> 01:00:39,505
It's it's a programing
that needs to be overcome.

1316
01:00:39,592 --> 01:00:40,593
Indeed.

1317
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,551
Well who do we want to be?!

1318
01:00:42,639 --> 01:00:45,250
Why does it all have to have
labels anyway, though?

1319
01:00:45,337 --> 01:00:46,947
And indeed, you know,

1320
01:00:47,034 --> 01:00:50,342
I understand you have issues
with a skin color, okay.

1321
01:00:50,429 --> 01:00:52,692
But I don't believe
that's our future.

1322
01:00:52,779 --> 01:00:55,086
I really don't.
I see it much different.

1323
01:00:55,173 --> 01:00:57,392
I understand
it's a struggle for you now.

1324
01:00:57,479 --> 01:01:00,569
I get that
and I empathize with that.

1325
01:01:00,657 --> 01:01:03,703
But do I love you less because
you're a different color?

1326
01:01:03,790 --> 01:01:05,226
Absolutely not.

1327
01:01:05,313 --> 01:01:06,750
Do you realize that
everything you're saying

1328
01:01:06,837 --> 01:01:09,404
is taking away
everything they just said.

1329
01:01:09,491 --> 01:01:10,710
Everything you just said is
such bullshit.

1330
01:01:10,797 --> 01:01:12,103
But it is.

1331
01:01:12,190 --> 01:01:14,018
It is but it is.
You literally erased

1332
01:01:14,105 --> 01:01:16,498
everything
this woman just said.

1333
01:01:16,585 --> 01:01:17,674
Like everything.

1334
01:01:18,849 --> 01:01:20,459
You want me to
apologize for that?

1335
01:01:20,546 --> 01:01:23,854
No. Well, I mean, honestly,
if you're not sorry,

1336
01:01:23,941 --> 01:01:25,943
don't apologize.
But at the same time.

1337
01:01:26,639 --> 01:01:28,206
Yeah, but it's not.

1338
01:01:28,293 --> 01:01:30,077
But you talk about love
and about the future.

1339
01:01:30,164 --> 01:01:32,689
She's worried that
her kids are going to die.

1340
01:01:33,428 --> 01:01:35,822
So who gives a shit
about feeling love?

1341
01:01:37,171 --> 01:01:38,869
We kind of had this
conversation before the dinner

1342
01:01:38,956 --> 01:01:39,870
a little bit.

1343
01:01:39,957 --> 01:01:41,436
And I got a sense of this

1344
01:01:41,523 --> 01:01:43,700
is that you've read
the book, The Secret,

1345
01:01:43,787 --> 01:01:45,702
and you think that we can all

1346
01:01:45,789 --> 01:01:48,052
get better lives
based on good intentions.

1347
01:01:48,139 --> 01:01:49,749
We just gotta be positive
and like, want good

1348
01:01:49,836 --> 01:01:50,750
for our lives.

1349
01:01:50,837 --> 01:01:52,230
What do you want -

1350
01:01:52,317 --> 01:01:55,712
We are telling you,
and you can Google

1351
01:01:55,799 --> 01:01:58,671
'police brutality',
Google 'ICE; Mexicans',

1352
01:01:58,758 --> 01:02:02,066
you know, Google 'Muslim ban'.
Those are like real things.

1353
01:02:02,153 --> 01:02:03,850
We're also anecdotally
telling you things,

1354
01:02:03,937 --> 01:02:07,636
and you keep coming back
with this frankly, B.S.

1355
01:02:07,724 --> 01:02:09,334
about love being love

1356
01:02:09,421 --> 01:02:12,903
and love trumps - like,
what do you mean by that?

1357
01:02:12,990 --> 01:02:16,384
What I mean is that
beyond the anger

1358
01:02:16,471 --> 01:02:18,952
and the problems
that we are feeling

1359
01:02:19,039 --> 01:02:20,693
at the moment,
each and every one of us,

1360
01:02:20,780 --> 01:02:22,782
perhaps you two
more at the moment,

1361
01:02:22,869 --> 01:02:26,090
that there is something more
to our, our beingness.

1362
01:02:26,177 --> 01:02:28,614
And it isn't the flesh.
It isn't.

1363
01:02:28,701 --> 01:02:32,009
And beyond that, this is
the evolution of all of us.

1364
01:02:32,096 --> 01:02:33,488
I know this.

1365
01:02:33,575 --> 01:02:34,751
And I know it sounds weird

1366
01:02:34,838 --> 01:02:36,100
for those
who aren't in that world,

1367
01:02:37,754 --> 01:02:39,843
but we are transcending this.

1368
01:02:39,930 --> 01:02:42,280
We are. Sarai, I -

1369
01:02:42,367 --> 01:02:45,979
It's Saira. Saira. Saira.

1370
01:02:46,066 --> 01:02:49,113
I really appreciate everything
you're offering.

1371
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,333
What I want to hear from
you is what you think

1372
01:02:54,031 --> 01:02:55,467
is a solution.

1373
01:02:55,554 --> 01:02:57,164
You've talked a lot,
but I haven't heard,

1374
01:02:57,251 --> 01:02:59,123
Hey, this is what I want
you ladies to do.

1375
01:02:59,210 --> 01:03:01,473
But haven't we said
repeatedly....?

1376
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,301
I do want to say.
I do want to say.

1377
01:03:03,388 --> 01:03:04,737
I acknowledge.

1378
01:03:04,824 --> 01:03:06,391
Yeah, but but wait.
But but what?

1379
01:03:06,478 --> 01:03:08,132
But yeah, like,

1380
01:03:08,219 --> 01:03:10,830
I just see beyond it -
Can I, can I say one thing?

1381
01:03:10,917 --> 01:03:13,050
Sure I'm sorry.
No, no.

1382
01:03:13,137 --> 01:03:15,356
I am a liberal white woman.

1383
01:03:15,443 --> 01:03:19,143
We are absolutely the most
dangerous women out there.

1384
01:03:19,230 --> 01:03:23,364
We are the most
dangerous women that exist

1385
01:03:23,451 --> 01:03:26,846
because we want to think
that we are better,

1386
01:03:26,933 --> 01:03:28,282
that we are good

1387
01:03:28,369 --> 01:03:30,371
and that we're doing
is about love

1388
01:03:30,458 --> 01:03:32,504
and that we're going to solve
all the world's issues

1389
01:03:32,591 --> 01:03:34,419
because we're going to love
a little more

1390
01:03:34,506 --> 01:03:36,769
because we're good
frickin people.

1391
01:03:36,856 --> 01:03:39,511
No, we are erasing
their experiences.

1392
01:03:39,598 --> 01:03:41,121
We are erasing their lives,

1393
01:03:41,208 --> 01:03:43,167
we are erasing
the danger that they're in

1394
01:03:43,254 --> 01:03:46,300
because we're trying to color
it, make it frickin pretty.

1395
01:03:46,387 --> 01:03:48,172
By calling it love

1396
01:03:48,259 --> 01:03:50,348
and I'm sorry,
but that is dangerous.

1397
01:03:50,435 --> 01:03:52,785
Like, that is dangerous!

1398
01:03:52,872 --> 01:03:54,831
But you have done it
repeatedly.

1399
01:03:55,527 --> 01:03:58,182
Does love

1400
01:03:59,226 --> 01:04:01,707
save the Mexicans
who are in ICE facilities?

1401
01:04:01,794 --> 01:04:04,536
Does love save Trayvon Martin?

1402
01:04:04,623 --> 01:04:07,713
Does love save Sandra
Bland, does love save Mustafa

1403
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,498
Ayoubi, who was assassinated
in February for doing nothing?

1404
01:04:10,585 --> 01:04:14,111
But what does, you know,
you ask us,

1405
01:04:14,198 --> 01:04:16,243
What can we do? Seriously?

1406
01:04:16,330 --> 01:04:18,202
And we told you
at least ten times -

1407
01:04:18,289 --> 01:04:21,640
listen.
What what can we do

1408
01:04:21,727 --> 01:04:24,904
to achieve this
love of which you speak?

1409
01:04:26,384 --> 01:04:28,473
Hmmm

1410
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:32,172
Well, I think dropping
the resistance is part of it.

1411
01:04:33,130 --> 01:04:35,132
And there is resistance.

1412
01:04:35,219 --> 01:04:37,961
The resistance to what?

1413
01:04:38,048 --> 01:04:41,225
The resistance is holding
you back...

1414
01:04:41,312 --> 01:04:43,618
The resistance to what?

1415
01:04:43,705 --> 01:04:45,142
What are we resisting?

1416
01:04:45,229 --> 01:04:48,667
It feels like a lot.
It feels like a lot.

1417
01:04:48,754 --> 01:04:54,194
And so I don't pretend to have
all the answers at all.

1418
01:04:54,281 --> 01:04:55,892
You haven't named one thing,
you said it feels like a lot.

1419
01:04:55,979 --> 01:04:58,155
She's asked you three times,
what are we resisting?

1420
01:04:58,242 --> 01:05:00,026
Name one thing
that we're resisting.

1421
01:05:00,113 --> 01:05:03,073
An answer, a solution
that's different

1422
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:04,770
than what you think
it should be?

1423
01:05:04,857 --> 01:05:06,728
You literally employ

1424
01:05:06,815 --> 01:05:09,427
the spiritual bypassing
to get around

1425
01:05:10,210 --> 01:05:13,866
any of the pain
associated with oppression.

1426
01:05:13,953 --> 01:05:16,042
I would love to say
love is love.

1427
01:05:16,129 --> 01:05:17,870
The next time someone sends me

1428
01:05:17,957 --> 01:05:19,437
a note telling me
that they're going

1429
01:05:19,524 --> 01:05:20,960
to drown my daughter,
I'm going to be like,

1430
01:05:21,047 --> 01:05:22,788
You know what? Downward
Dog it right now,

1431
01:05:22,875 --> 01:05:24,355
Love is love.

1432
01:05:25,182 --> 01:05:27,010
Love is fucking love.

1433
01:05:27,097 --> 01:05:28,185
Seriously.

1434
01:05:29,273 --> 01:05:30,883
So we can acknowledge,
I'm going to acknowledge,

1435
01:05:30,970 --> 01:05:32,580
that yes, after you said that,
I can acknowledge.

1436
01:05:32,667 --> 01:05:35,235
Yes, I see racism in me,
after I've said no,

1437
01:05:35,322 --> 01:05:37,194
because of what you women
have said.

1438
01:05:37,281 --> 01:05:39,936
We have to understand where
it hurts, where hurts, hurts.

1439
01:05:40,023 --> 01:05:42,286
And we can't take away hurt
from other people.

1440
01:05:42,373 --> 01:05:43,983
I mean,
and that's where I think

1441
01:05:44,070 --> 01:05:46,551
we have to be sympathetic
at one point too.

1442
01:05:46,638 --> 01:05:49,032
To add to that
a little bit,

1443
01:05:49,119 --> 01:05:52,557
we're not dying
because we're white.

1444
01:05:53,601 --> 01:05:57,997
I'm not not allowed to go
somewhere because I'm white.

1445
01:05:58,955 --> 01:06:02,567
So I can say love is love
because nobody says,

1446
01:06:02,654 --> 01:06:03,872
no you can't!

1447
01:06:06,963 --> 01:06:09,530
I think that's the purpose

1448
01:06:09,617 --> 01:06:11,837
people are saying
you can't come here.

1449
01:06:11,924 --> 01:06:14,971
Even though we were all taught
right in history,

1450
01:06:15,058 --> 01:06:18,583
that this was fixed years ago,
it was fixed.

1451
01:06:19,497 --> 01:06:20,585
And my

1452
01:06:20,672 --> 01:06:22,500
my kids,
I will never know

1453
01:06:22,587 --> 01:06:24,763
what my kids even feel like
because they are part Hispanic

1454
01:06:24,850 --> 01:06:27,113
and with Hispanic,
I will never know their fear

1455
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:28,549
because I'm not there.

1456
01:06:28,636 --> 01:06:30,203
I'll never know that
what they fear.

1457
01:06:30,290 --> 01:06:32,640
Do you realize that
in this room,

1458
01:06:32,727 --> 01:06:35,165
the Republicans that voted
for Trump

1459
01:06:35,252 --> 01:06:38,820
have listened in and
and she changed what she said.

1460
01:06:38,907 --> 01:06:40,997
She said, actually, I get it.

1461
01:06:41,084 --> 01:06:42,955
And yet you keep saying
love is love.

1462
01:06:43,042 --> 01:06:44,522
And that's why I'm saying

1463
01:06:44,609 --> 01:06:46,524
white liberal women
are the most dangerous

1464
01:06:46,611 --> 01:06:50,702
because we think we're so
good that we can't

1465
01:06:50,789 --> 01:06:52,660
be part of the problem.

1466
01:06:53,357 --> 01:06:54,793
So I do want to
leave you with this.

1467
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,665
There is no, and
I mean this sincerely,

1468
01:06:57,752 --> 01:06:59,450
my two little
kids are at home.

1469
01:06:59,537 --> 01:07:01,582
My husband's at home. I'm
not doing this for my health.

1470
01:07:01,669 --> 01:07:03,976
The reason I am here
is because of love.

1471
01:07:04,803 --> 01:07:06,979
So to answer your question
repeatedly,

1472
01:07:07,066 --> 01:07:08,459
it is because of love.

1473
01:07:08,546 --> 01:07:11,244
The work
that I do is because of love.

1474
01:07:11,331 --> 01:07:13,768
Everything I do
is because of love.

1475
01:07:14,769 --> 01:07:17,120
And by showing you

1476
01:07:17,207 --> 01:07:20,297
my pain,
I have opened myself up

1477
01:07:20,384 --> 01:07:24,040
so greatly to take more
and more and more abuse.

1478
01:07:24,127 --> 01:07:25,432
And why?

1479
01:07:25,519 --> 01:07:28,131
Because I actually
believe in you.

1480
01:07:28,218 --> 01:07:30,568
Sincerely, at the
bottom of my heart,

1481
01:07:30,655 --> 01:07:33,745
I believe that you all
can wake up just like I did.

1482
01:07:33,832 --> 01:07:37,575
You can deprogram yourself
just like you did.

1483
01:07:37,662 --> 01:07:40,795
And over the course
of one dinner,

1484
01:07:40,882 --> 01:07:45,974
Marni, you are able to even
slightly open the window.

1485
01:07:46,062 --> 01:07:48,760
I am more hopeful
than you will ever know.

1486
01:07:48,847 --> 01:07:51,241
This should be an indication
of the amount of love

1487
01:07:51,328 --> 01:07:53,373
that I have and the amount
of hope that I have.

1488
01:07:53,460 --> 01:07:55,462
And I have expectations still,

1489
01:07:55,549 --> 01:07:58,857
Regina doesn't.
And you're still here. So...

1490
01:08:00,163 --> 01:08:02,078
Do not expect
it to be easy.

1491
01:08:02,165 --> 01:08:03,949
Because it's not
going to be easy.

1492
01:08:04,036 --> 01:08:05,777
You're going to question
everything you ever learned.

1493
01:08:05,864 --> 01:08:07,605
You know, it's hard.

1494
01:08:07,692 --> 01:08:10,782
It's hard work, and everything
worth having is hard.

1495
01:08:12,784 --> 01:08:15,134
So who in this room...

1496
01:08:15,221 --> 01:08:17,571
Raise your hand
if you're a racist.

1497
01:08:22,533 --> 01:08:23,795
We did it!

1498
01:08:23,882 --> 01:08:26,493
Thank you. Thanks, guys.

1499
01:08:26,580 --> 01:08:27,581
Thank you.

1500
01:08:35,285 --> 01:08:38,070
I feel hopeful that there's

1501
01:08:38,157 --> 01:08:41,204
going to be one or two
people that gets it.

1502
01:08:42,074 --> 01:08:43,684
I can guarantee you

1503
01:08:43,771 --> 01:08:46,513
I know this for a fact,
they haven't forgotten,

1504
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:50,430
and they're thinking
about this every single day.

1505
01:08:50,517 --> 01:08:53,651
And even if one of them
comes out of this in however

1506
01:08:53,738 --> 01:08:58,090
amount of time and starts
down the path, that's a win too.

1507
01:09:02,486 --> 01:09:04,009
What our job is

1508
01:09:04,096 --> 01:09:07,186
I think a huge part
of our job, white people,

1509
01:09:07,969 --> 01:09:11,147
is to help other white
people wake up with us.

1510
01:09:11,234 --> 01:09:12,670
I think the triggering process

1511
01:09:12,757 --> 01:09:15,803
for many white women
in a Race2Dinner setting

1512
01:09:16,804 --> 01:09:20,330
can override the ability

1513
01:09:21,244 --> 01:09:23,811
to just take a moment and go,
wait a minute,

1514
01:09:23,898 --> 01:09:28,207
I need to sit with this.
Because we're so trained to

1515
01:09:28,294 --> 01:09:30,688
'My reaction is right!'
as white

1516
01:09:30,775 --> 01:09:33,169
people, it's like it's
our white world.

1517
01:09:33,778 --> 01:09:36,737
What I took away was just
being able to recognize

1518
01:09:37,434 --> 01:09:41,786
how white women react to being
confronted on their racism,

1519
01:09:41,873 --> 01:09:43,266
the defensiveness,

1520
01:09:43,353 --> 01:09:46,965
the crying, the
'I don't see color'...

1521
01:09:47,052 --> 01:09:50,664
'We all bleed red' or just like
using people of color

1522
01:09:50,751 --> 01:09:54,755
in their lives to justify
that they're not a racist.

1523
01:09:54,842 --> 01:09:57,497
So those tools, I think
I learned from Race2Dinner.

1524
01:09:57,584 --> 01:09:59,325
When we were leaving
that night,

1525
01:09:59,412 --> 01:10:02,110
I was feeling sad because
I realized how much more work

1526
01:10:02,198 --> 01:10:05,592
we have to do to undo
systemic racism

1527
01:10:05,679 --> 01:10:08,639
and misogyny is not,
I don't even know

1528
01:10:08,726 --> 01:10:11,032
if it's something I'm
going to see in my lifetime

1529
01:10:11,119 --> 01:10:12,730
quite frankly.

1530
01:10:12,817 --> 01:10:14,514
The first thing
that I did when I

1531
01:10:14,601 --> 01:10:17,300
came home is
I made a post on my Facebook

1532
01:10:17,387 --> 01:10:21,042
and I acknowledged where I see
the racism in my own life

1533
01:10:21,129 --> 01:10:22,174
and thought beliefs.

1534
01:10:26,134 --> 01:10:28,224
I thought I was
already aware of my racism.

1535
01:10:28,311 --> 01:10:31,052
But what I didn't see
was how unconsciously white

1536
01:10:31,139 --> 01:10:34,273
supremacy lives within me
and the true impact of it.

1537
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,014
What I saw as a result

1538
01:10:36,101 --> 01:10:39,191
of that conversation
was that as a white woman,

1539
01:10:39,278 --> 01:10:41,149
I am the worst
kind of dangerous

1540
01:10:41,237 --> 01:10:44,240
if I don't wake up
to see what's true here

1541
01:10:44,327 --> 01:10:46,503
and use my power and
privilege to take action.

1542
01:10:50,637 --> 01:10:52,073
I saw that white supremacy

1543
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:55,120
is not just a construct
of the alt right,

1544
01:10:55,207 --> 01:10:57,296
but something that lives
within all of us

1545
01:10:57,383 --> 01:11:00,081
and mostly unconscious
to those who want to believe

1546
01:11:00,168 --> 01:11:01,344
it's all love and light.

1547
01:11:06,958 --> 01:11:09,352
I saw that racism
is not something to hide from

1548
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,571
or pretend
does not exist within me.

1549
01:11:11,658 --> 01:11:14,313
As to do so keeps
the power structures hidden

1550
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:16,272
and embedded.

1551
01:11:23,670 --> 01:11:25,193
I'm exceedingly grateful
to Saira Rao

1552
01:11:25,281 --> 01:11:27,195
and Regina Jackson
for their willingness

1553
01:11:27,283 --> 01:11:30,808
to show up, educate, and put
their lives at risk to do it.

1554
01:11:31,678 --> 01:11:33,593
I'm here to show up
for what's uncomfortable

1555
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,292
so we can heal this pain
and stop the violence.

1556
01:11:37,031 --> 01:11:38,555
Are you?

1557
01:11:42,646 --> 01:11:43,995
Trump: Kung flu...

1558
01:11:44,082 --> 01:11:47,128
the Chinese virus.
[roaring applause]

1559
01:11:47,215 --> 01:11:49,957
Crowds chanting: Peaceful
Protest! Peaceful Protest!

1560
01:11:50,044 --> 01:11:52,395
News: protesters have taken
to the streets around the world.

1561
01:11:52,482 --> 01:11:55,093
So is this the moment when the
United States and others

1562
01:11:55,180 --> 01:11:59,750
recognize the pain of the past,
that Black Lives Matter,

1563
01:11:59,837 --> 01:12:02,796
and reimagine their countries
on new values?

1564
01:12:03,449 --> 01:12:05,233
Biden: White supremacy
is the most lethal terrorist

1565
01:12:05,321 --> 01:12:07,453
threat to the homeland today.

1566
01:12:07,540 --> 01:12:10,369
Now's our opportunity
to make some real progress.

1567
01:12:10,456 --> 01:12:11,718
[applause]

1568
01:12:15,418 --> 01:12:17,289
I have my liquor bar
right behind me

1569
01:12:17,376 --> 01:12:19,030
in case I need to take a drink.

1570
01:12:20,379 --> 01:12:22,120
We got lots of people
coming on.

1571
01:12:28,344 --> 01:12:29,867
We have everyone?

1572
01:12:29,954 --> 01:12:30,955
Yes? OK cool!