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Mike Painter is here with me.

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He's called "America's
child psychologist,"

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and his new book is "Shaping the Past."

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I'm happy to have Mike
Painter back on the show.

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Thank you. Thanks for having me.

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So did becoming a father

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change how you look at childhood?

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Yeah, I think so.

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You know, at the same time,

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adulthood is just a mask,

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a sophisticated mask, for sure.

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But behind it, we're
all still the kids we were.

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Now, in the book, you
talk about your childhood.

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Uh, you lost a twin
brother when you were 12?

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In 1988, in Iron Hill, Ohio,

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where I was born, um,

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five kids went missing.

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The Iron Hill murders.

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Never solved.

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Yeah.

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The last victim, the
one they never found

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was my brother, Eddie.

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You were identical twins.

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Losing a twin is like having a...

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A phantom limb.

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How does a family deal
with something like that?

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My father was out of the picture.

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My mother couldn't cope.

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Um, I was sent to live with relatives.

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I've never been back to Iron Hill.

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I want to do something unusual.

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I have someone on the phone.

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12 years old.

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His family's gone
through a tragedy as well.

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I'd like you to talk to him.

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Show us what you do.

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I don't know if that's appro...

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Are you there?

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Hello?

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My name's Dr. Painter.

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I'm a...

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I'm a doctor who kids like you talk to

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about stuff that's on their mind.

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Is there anything you
want to talk to me about?

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Can you tell me your name?

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What is this?

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Is that your TV?

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Turn it off.

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Turn it off.

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Mike.

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Why are you scared to come home?

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Mike?

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Why are you scared to come home?

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American goldfinch.

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Now he's just part of the yard.

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Hey.

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I wanted to surprise you.

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You sure know how.

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Miss Marla, who is that?

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Hi, I'm Mike. What's your name?

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This is Katie.

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Miss Marla?

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It's my son.

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He is a lurker, this cat.

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I swear, he kills for sport.

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So you're a vegetarian, then?

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Well, I-I don't eat songbirds.

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What?

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No pictures of me or Eddie...

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or Dad.

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Well, don't take it personally.

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It's just a matter of managing

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intrusive thoughts.

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Yeah.

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Thanks a lot, Mom. It really is, um...

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Why have you come? Just tell me.

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No, I... I'm so happy to see you.

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You are welcome here.

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It's just...

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I hope you haven't
come to rip open a wound.

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Once every two years, someone
turns up in Iron Hill

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to solve those murders.

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I've always been afraid that...

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one day it would be you.

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Yeah, but nothing was stolen?

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Okay, uh, Bob will take your
statement, Mr. Crumm.

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Okay.

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Hey, Bob! Line one.

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Yes? Can I help you?

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Hi, there, uh, my name is Mike Painter.

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Oh! Hi.

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Uh... my mom saw you on Dr. Phil

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and got very excited.

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I-I mean, I saw you, too.

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So, uh, what brings you here?

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I was actually wondering if I could...

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Holy shit.

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Yeah.

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Wow. Mike Painter.

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- Gary.
- It's good to see you.

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Actually, uh, I was hoping
we could have a quick word.

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- Absolutely.
- Yeah.

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We'll go to my office.

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Nice to meet you.

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It was a pleasure to meet you, too.

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- Right?
- Yeah, it's...

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Okay, so Billy Reese was on first.

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And then, uh, there was someone...
some kid on second,

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and you were on third.

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Yeah, and you don't remember.

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No, no, no, no, I-I remember.

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So they went and elected you sheriff.

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- This is...
- Yeah.

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Congratulations.

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Look, it's not exactly the wild west.

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I mean, we got drunk
people doing drunk things, and...

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Right now there's some mystery man...

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He's, uh... he's going
around breaking into houses

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without stealing anything.
I don't know. it's just...

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Didn't the Manson Family do that?

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Uh, past troubles aside,

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we're a little bit more
"Partridge Family"

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than Manson Family around here,

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but enough on all that.

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What about you?

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We've... w-w-we've kept on
you. I-I even read your book.

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Oh, man, that's, um...

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That's kind of you.

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Well, speaking of past
troubles, you know,

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Gary, I was hoping I could
take a look at those files.

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Do you mind if I ask why?

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I mean, it's been, uh...

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28 years since they dragged
those kids out of the woods.

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Yeah, minus their teeth.

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Look, Mike, all... All
I'm saying is that, uh,

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a lot of folks,

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just like you and your
mom, lost people back then.

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So...

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I'm not saying no.

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I guess I'm just saying, why now?

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I'm writing a book.

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Really?

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Is it gonna be a good book?

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I hope so.

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What I mean is, is it gonna
be a respectful book?

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Above all else.

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Absolutely.

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Mike, you know that I-I
didn't get stuck here, right?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's...

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But did you know that
I married Jessica Hale?

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I did hear that.

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She would be right annoyed

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if I didn't invite
you for dinner tonight.

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- No.
- No, no, no. No, no, no.

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There's a lot of people
coming, and, uh...

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and I think I can help
you with those files.

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But...

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I need your expert opinion on my kid.

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Yeah, I-I-I think he's growing up

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a little bit strange.

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Do we have a casino?

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Weren't we supposed to get
one, a casino, in this town?

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We don't build anything here.

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- Well, whose fault is that?
- I'll tell you.

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- Oh, here we go.
- Steam to diesel.

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When the railroad
switched from steam to diesel,

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- that is what killed us.
- No. Community.

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How kids are raised.

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Now everything's all disconnected.

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What? Now everything's all connected.

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Now any perv can reach through the Wi-Fi

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and grope my daughter.

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We don't even keep a TV in the house.

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I'll tell you something else.

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This is not even a town. It's a museum.

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But you got to modernize.
Take the station.

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If the county gave us funds,

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what we could do with that.

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Well... yeah, and when you're sheriff,

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- I think you should do that.
- Oh.

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When I'm sheriff, the
first thing I do is

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take down that stupid
painting in your office.

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- She's got you there.
- I know.

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- Dad?
- I love this town.

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I absolutely love it. I
love it just the way it is.

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And you know that... Hey, buddy.

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Katie's been watching TV forever.

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I want to watch "Labyrinth."

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- It's a tough life, bud.
- Dane, honey,

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you tell your sister it's time for bed.

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And you too... No more TV.

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Good night.

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Don't.

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Mike.

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I mentioned this earlier.

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That kid is obsessed with David Bowie.

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That's strange, right?

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You're lucky it's not ABBA.

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I wouldn't worry about it.

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See?

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I mean, we were pretty strange,

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remember?

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We had our own imaginary kingdom.

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You and Eddie made it up.

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And you were the kings, both of you.

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And the card game that never ended.

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What's that?

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Well, me and Eddie started
playing cards one day...

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Uh, War, and this one game just...

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went on and on.

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There was no winner.

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So, um,

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we picked it up the
next day and the next.

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And after a while, I
think we just wanted to see

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how long it would go on.

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How long did it?

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Well, I guess technically it still is.

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And every Saturday...

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Every Saturday,

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me, you, and Eddie

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would watch hours

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- of TV.
- Of TV.

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- Oh.
- Hours...

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Oh, see? You turned out fine.

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- There you go.
- She turned out fine.

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- Yeah.
- Well, Mike's the expert.

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Why don't we ask him?

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What do you think?

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Too much TV bad for kids?

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Of course it is. Where's the bathroom?

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Down the stairs, just to the left.

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Katie?

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Hey, guess what.

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You're friends with my mom, and
I'm friends with your mom.

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Shh.

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Why are we being quiet?

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It went away.

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Katie, what were you watching?

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Right out in the middle, there's
this piece of luggage...

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I don't know, it's one of
these fancy labels, right?

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Something... Whatever, it's nice.

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And she goes, "It's stuck," right?

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And I just said, "Hey.

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How'd it get there?"

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- You did not say that.
- I did, I did...

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You guys remember "Candle Cove"?

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That show? Right?

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It was on for,
like a couple of months...

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Two months. September, October, '88.

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I remember.

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Did you ever tell your kids about it?

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Oh, hell, no.

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Well, Katie told me she just saw it.

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- What, just now?
- What?

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No.

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I mean, why would they re-air that?

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What are you guys talking about?

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That show used to give
me the worst nightmares...

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Those puppets.

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I used to have this really
weird recurring dream.

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They would just be screaming.

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No, that was an episode.

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No, not possible. It
was a nightmare I had.

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Remember Jawbone?

267
00:17:05,031 --> 00:17:06,730
What is Jawbone?

268
00:17:06,766 --> 00:17:10,234
Jawbone... He was this,

269
00:17:10,269 --> 00:17:14,292
this old skeleton thing in
a robe and a black hat.

270
00:17:16,328 --> 00:17:20,229
And he'd always be chasing
around Pirate Percy, right?

271
00:17:20,265 --> 00:17:22,932
And he'd say,

272
00:17:22,968 --> 00:17:24,834
"When I catch you,

273
00:17:24,869 --> 00:17:27,103
I'm gonna skin your hide..."

274
00:17:28,373 --> 00:17:31,607
Oh, easy there. Easy there.

275
00:17:31,643 --> 00:17:33,955
Had a... had a little bit...
Little bit much to drink, Mike?

276
00:17:33,979 --> 00:17:35,011
I'm fine.

277
00:17:35,046 --> 00:17:38,948
Um, thanks for dinner.

278
00:17:38,984 --> 00:17:41,584
You guys keep walking down
memory lane with this shit.

279
00:17:41,619 --> 00:17:43,319
I'm gonna go home.

280
00:17:43,355 --> 00:17:45,688
- You brought it up.
- It's just a TV show, Mike.

281
00:17:48,026 --> 00:17:50,093
What was that?

282
00:17:50,128 --> 00:17:51,794
Mm...

283
00:18:21,159 --> 00:18:23,126
Eddie, let's go around.

284
00:18:23,161 --> 00:18:25,995
Eddie!

285
00:18:26,031 --> 00:18:28,031
He's just gonna do it again!

286
00:18:45,450 --> 00:18:47,116
Eddie!

287
00:18:50,722 --> 00:18:53,823
Pay the toll?

288
00:18:53,858 --> 00:18:55,691
Shove it up your ass.

289
00:18:55,727 --> 00:18:57,593
Little bitch.

290
00:18:57,629 --> 00:18:59,095
Just like your dad.

291
00:18:59,130 --> 00:19:00,163
Shut up.

292
00:19:00,198 --> 00:19:02,031
How come he left?

293
00:19:02,067 --> 00:19:03,332
Fu... you.

294
00:19:03,368 --> 00:19:06,836
'Cause he doesn't love you?

295
00:19:06,871 --> 00:19:09,172
Rather have no dad than one like yours.

296
00:19:09,207 --> 00:19:10,740
Whoa!

297
00:19:12,243 --> 00:19:14,577
- Hit him, Gene!
- Yeah, get him!

298
00:19:16,781 --> 00:19:17,747
Let him go!

299
00:19:21,619 --> 00:19:24,587
Stop, Gene! Get off me!

300
00:19:24,622 --> 00:19:25,315
Gary!

301
00:19:25,340 --> 00:19:28,124
Get over here and get his arm!

302
00:19:28,159 --> 00:19:29,258
Do it!

303
00:19:33,164 --> 00:19:37,433
Help! Stop! No!

304
00:19:37,469 --> 00:19:39,068
- Yeah, Gene!
- Aah!

305
00:19:39,104 --> 00:19:40,937
Can he feel it if I hurt you?

306
00:19:40,972 --> 00:19:42,705
Aah!

307
00:19:42,740 --> 00:19:44,221
- Let him go!
- Stop!

308
00:19:44,268 --> 00:19:47,810
You feel that? Does that hurt, Mike?

309
00:19:47,846 --> 00:19:49,078
Mike, does this hurt?

310
00:19:53,518 --> 00:19:56,152
Oh, my God.

311
00:20:00,258 --> 00:20:02,558
Get out of here!

312
00:20:05,430 --> 00:20:08,431
Good job.

313
00:20:16,941 --> 00:20:18,508
- Good job, man.
- Yeah.

314
00:20:24,048 --> 00:20:25,515
Eddie?

315
00:20:48,072 --> 00:20:49,539
Sorry.

316
00:20:51,376 --> 00:20:53,709
Don't tell Mom?

317
00:20:53,745 --> 00:20:56,012
I won't.

318
00:20:56,047 --> 00:20:57,046
Sorry.

319
00:21:12,830 --> 00:21:13,869
Ahoy, mates.

320
00:21:13,894 --> 00:21:15,698
What adventure awaits?

321
00:21:15,733 --> 00:21:17,533
Do you sense it?

322
00:21:17,569 --> 00:21:19,835
Something is coming.

323
00:21:19,871 --> 00:21:22,872
A stray vessel headed for the cove.

324
00:21:24,175 --> 00:21:27,577
Welcome to Candle Cove.

325
00:22:38,041 --> 00:22:40,041
Mike?

326
00:23:57,721 --> 00:24:00,388
You sleepwalked.

327
00:24:00,424 --> 00:24:04,192
Yeah. Old habits die hard.

328
00:24:06,530 --> 00:24:09,631
Your brother used to do it more.

329
00:24:14,734 --> 00:24:17,068
I've been having nightmares.

330
00:24:20,239 --> 00:24:22,573
So that's why you came back.

331
00:24:25,611 --> 00:24:30,014
Well, I hope it helps you sleep.

332
00:24:30,049 --> 00:24:31,882
Yeah.

333
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,222
I'm gonna be back in an hour or two.

334
00:24:44,197 --> 00:24:45,496
What?

335
00:24:46,866 --> 00:24:48,833
There's someone in the woods.

336
00:24:53,573 --> 00:24:56,574
People walk in the woods.

337
00:24:58,311 --> 00:25:01,579
But he was standing still.

338
00:25:01,614 --> 00:25:03,948
Maybe he had a stray thought.

339
00:25:16,295 --> 00:25:18,062
My boys are up early.

340
00:25:18,097 --> 00:25:19,763
Well, I rise with the sun, baby.

341
00:25:19,799 --> 00:25:23,434
S-U-N or S-O-N?

342
00:25:26,439 --> 00:25:27,905
Buddy, where's your sister?

343
00:25:27,940 --> 00:25:29,740
I don't know. Still in bed, I guess.

344
00:25:37,950 --> 00:25:40,351
Good morning, honey.

345
00:25:42,288 --> 00:25:45,089
Katie?

346
00:25:48,327 --> 00:25:50,661
Katie?

347
00:25:50,696 --> 00:25:51,996
Katie?

348
00:25:53,032 --> 00:25:57,063
Honey? Katie?

349
00:25:57,851 --> 00:25:59,468
And now back to more great music

350
00:25:59,493 --> 00:26:01,968
on this beautiful morning on WKRP...

351
00:26:01,993 --> 00:26:03,905
- Thanks, Daphne.
- You got it.

352
00:26:11,634 --> 00:26:13,768
- Another refill on your coffee?
- Yeah.

353
00:26:13,796 --> 00:26:14,828
I'll have some. Thanks.

354
00:26:19,101 --> 00:26:22,102
The women have walked in the woods.

355
00:26:29,445 --> 00:26:32,913
The women have walked in the woods.

356
00:26:38,754 --> 00:26:40,220
Past participle.

357
00:26:40,256 --> 00:26:42,823
In?

358
00:26:42,858 --> 00:26:44,758
Present perfect tense.

359
00:26:44,794 --> 00:26:47,728
Indicating something...

360
00:26:47,763 --> 00:26:51,131
both: That started in the
past but continues until now.

361
00:26:51,167 --> 00:26:53,901
You always were a studious kid, Mike.

362
00:26:53,936 --> 00:26:57,938
Well, you always were a
grammar Nazi, Mrs. Booth.

363
00:27:02,311 --> 00:27:04,011
Mike?

364
00:27:06,348 --> 00:27:07,948
Katie!

365
00:27:07,983 --> 00:27:09,616
Honey, where are you?

366
00:27:09,652 --> 00:27:12,820
- Katie!
- Katie!

367
00:27:14,023 --> 00:27:17,458
Katie!

368
00:27:17,493 --> 00:27:19,092
Katie!

369
00:27:19,128 --> 00:27:20,994
Sweetheart!

370
00:27:21,030 --> 00:27:23,297
Katie!

371
00:27:25,367 --> 00:27:27,000
Katie!

372
00:27:27,036 --> 00:27:29,269
- Sweetheart!
- Katie!

373
00:27:29,305 --> 00:27:31,205
Katie!

374
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,874
Sweetie?

375
00:27:33,909 --> 00:27:36,043
Come on, let's go another way.

376
00:27:36,078 --> 00:27:37,144
Eddie.

377
00:27:37,179 --> 00:27:39,213
Don't!

378
00:27:47,256 --> 00:27:49,790
What happened to your hand?

379
00:27:49,825 --> 00:27:53,126
Your daddy kiss it for you?

380
00:27:53,162 --> 00:27:55,095
Oh, right.

381
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,500
What, Eddie?

382
00:28:03,439 --> 00:28:05,405
You want something?

383
00:28:07,743 --> 00:28:10,511
What the hell's wrong with you?

384
00:28:12,681 --> 00:28:14,481
Come on, Tim.

385
00:28:14,517 --> 00:28:15,916
Something's up with that kid.

386
00:28:32,635 --> 00:28:33,800
Go.

387
00:28:42,578 --> 00:28:45,612
Shit. Run!

388
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,653
Katie!

389
00:29:26,689 --> 00:29:28,221
So...

390
00:29:28,257 --> 00:29:30,090
that show?

391
00:29:31,493 --> 00:29:34,795
Did you bring it up, or
did Katie bring it up?

392
00:29:34,830 --> 00:29:36,563
She did. Why?

393
00:29:36,599 --> 00:29:37,998
Katie!

394
00:29:38,033 --> 00:29:40,567
Oh, it's just, uh...

395
00:29:40,603 --> 00:29:43,670
weird they'd just air it again.

396
00:29:45,841 --> 00:29:47,140
Right?

397
00:29:47,176 --> 00:29:49,042
Нeah, yeah, I-I... yeah.

398
00:29:51,380 --> 00:29:54,014
Katie!

399
00:29:55,851 --> 00:29:58,485
Did she say what channel it was on?

400
00:30:00,155 --> 00:30:03,857
Um... no.

401
00:30:03,892 --> 00:30:06,793
I need to talk to you.

402
00:30:06,829 --> 00:30:08,462
Katie!

403
00:30:09,798 --> 00:30:11,222
Marla told us that she heard you

404
00:30:11,247 --> 00:30:13,433
come in at 3:00 a.m. last night...

405
00:30:15,537 --> 00:30:19,139
Five hours after you left our house.

406
00:30:19,174 --> 00:30:20,374
I...

407
00:30:20,409 --> 00:30:23,010
I-I mean, I walked around. I...

408
00:30:23,045 --> 00:30:26,446
I'm asking you, parent to parent,

409
00:30:26,482 --> 00:30:28,749
what are you not telling me?

410
00:30:32,521 --> 00:30:35,288
This will sound irrational.

411
00:30:35,324 --> 00:30:37,357
Say it.

412
00:30:37,393 --> 00:30:40,293
That show may have something
to do with this.

413
00:30:40,329 --> 00:30:41,528
What show?

414
00:30:43,699 --> 00:30:45,065
"Candle Cove"?

415
00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:46,500
Yeah, listen,

416
00:30:46,535 --> 00:30:49,069
in '88, the only
time the show ever aired

417
00:30:49,104 --> 00:30:51,138
was during the murders.

418
00:30:51,173 --> 00:30:54,307
When the show
stopped, the murders stopped.

419
00:30:54,343 --> 00:30:57,411
And... and... and... and...
and now it just shows back up again.

420
00:30:57,446 --> 00:30:59,167
I just need you to
tell me where you went

421
00:30:59,192 --> 00:31:00,225
last night after you left.

422
00:31:00,249 --> 00:31:01,889
I know how it sounds, but I'm not crazy.

423
00:31:01,917 --> 00:31:03,200
You're not crazy.

424
00:31:03,225 --> 00:31:05,330
Believe me, it's not
just a television show, okay?

425
00:31:05,354 --> 00:31:06,594
It did something to my brother,

426
00:31:06,622 --> 00:31:08,722
and it can make people do odd things.

427
00:31:08,757 --> 00:31:10,669
And... and I seem to be the
only one that's putting this...

428
00:31:10,693 --> 00:31:12,592
I know about Stovington.

429
00:31:12,628 --> 00:31:14,895
I'm... I'm not...

430
00:31:14,930 --> 00:31:15,896
crazy.

431
00:31:15,931 --> 00:31:18,532
I-I had a, um...

432
00:31:18,567 --> 00:31:20,701
You were released from a psych ward

433
00:31:20,736 --> 00:31:23,704
three days ago.

434
00:31:23,739 --> 00:31:25,105
I mean, you must have come

435
00:31:25,140 --> 00:31:28,075
straight here after the hospital.

436
00:31:28,110 --> 00:31:31,378
No, I-I went home the first night.

437
00:31:31,413 --> 00:31:33,747
My wife let me stop by to get clothes.

438
00:31:33,782 --> 00:31:35,749
That doesn't matter.

439
00:31:35,784 --> 00:31:39,352
Listen, um, I had what's called

440
00:31:39,388 --> 00:31:42,422
an acute stress reaction.

441
00:31:42,458 --> 00:31:46,393
They say you had a
psychotic episode, Mike.

442
00:31:48,597 --> 00:31:51,431
You're a doctor. Tell
me what that means.

443
00:31:54,770 --> 00:31:58,739
No, I-I committed myself voluntarily.

444
00:31:58,774 --> 00:32:00,574
I'm asking you one last time.

445
00:32:00,609 --> 00:32:02,776
What did you do, and where
did you go last night?

446
00:32:02,811 --> 00:32:05,056
Listen, it is not me, Jessica.
It's connected to that show.

447
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,148
Now, whoever made that show...

448
00:32:10,185 --> 00:32:12,719
Oh, my God. Gary!

449
00:32:19,027 --> 00:32:20,827
Mike?

450
00:32:20,863 --> 00:32:22,963
Shit.

451
00:32:22,998 --> 00:32:26,233
Gary!

452
00:32:26,268 --> 00:32:27,601
Amy!

453
00:32:29,104 --> 00:32:30,804
Jess? Jess!

454
00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:32,439
- Gary.
- Jess, do you have her?

455
00:32:32,474 --> 00:32:35,242
- No, no.
- Hey, babe, what's wrong?

456
00:32:35,277 --> 00:32:36,343
It's Mike.

457
00:32:36,378 --> 00:32:37,844
I think...

458
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,247
I think he knows something.

459
00:32:40,282 --> 00:32:42,127
I think he knows where she is.
- Okay, we'll find him.

460
00:32:42,151 --> 00:32:43,750
Spread out! Hit the tree line!

461
00:33:13,066 --> 00:33:15,232
She said you'd come talk to me.

462
00:33:18,671 --> 00:33:21,639
Do you know where she is?

463
00:33:21,674 --> 00:33:25,609
Dane, do you love your sister?

464
00:33:25,645 --> 00:33:29,547
Do you want to see her again?

465
00:33:29,582 --> 00:33:34,185
Did she tell you where she was going?

466
00:33:34,220 --> 00:33:38,289
What's the Crow's Nest?

467
00:33:57,009 --> 00:33:59,310
Where's Dad's gun?

468
00:33:59,345 --> 00:34:02,046
What do you want a 30-year-old gun for?

469
00:34:02,081 --> 00:34:03,714
Just in case.

470
00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:05,382
I got rid of that gun years ago.

471
00:34:05,418 --> 00:34:07,218
Tell me what's going on.

472
00:34:07,253 --> 00:34:09,353
There's no time. It
could already be too late.

473
00:34:09,388 --> 00:34:12,590
Gary called. He said you're sick, Mike.

474
00:34:12,625 --> 00:34:14,258
They didn't understand in 1988,

475
00:34:14,293 --> 00:34:16,060
and they don't understand now.

476
00:34:16,095 --> 00:34:17,595
And you do?

477
00:34:17,630 --> 00:34:20,731
Just... just get me a
chance to try to get her back

478
00:34:20,767 --> 00:34:22,399
before it's too late.

479
00:34:22,435 --> 00:34:24,201
Where are you going?

480
00:34:27,273 --> 00:34:28,873
Out there.

481
00:34:28,908 --> 00:34:31,642
Out past the woods, where
the signal tower is.

482
00:34:33,312 --> 00:34:36,247
Out where they found the bodies?

483
00:34:36,282 --> 00:34:39,483
I have to go. Let me go.

484
00:34:43,956 --> 00:34:45,790
Katie!

485
00:34:50,496 --> 00:34:53,297
Katie!

486
00:37:06,966 --> 00:37:08,766
Who's back there?

487
00:37:17,443 --> 00:37:20,377
- Mike?
- Hey.

488
00:37:24,784 --> 00:37:26,617
Are you okay?

489
00:37:26,652 --> 00:37:28,085
Are you okay?

490
00:37:35,261 --> 00:37:37,928
Come here.

491
00:38:35,055 --> 00:38:38,757
She says the TV told her where to go.

492
00:38:38,792 --> 00:38:40,926
How'd you know to find
her out by the signal tower

493
00:38:40,961 --> 00:38:42,728
of all places?

494
00:38:44,064 --> 00:38:47,332
I just needed a place to think.

495
00:38:47,368 --> 00:38:51,803
Me and Eddie used to call
that spot the Crow's Nest.

496
00:38:51,839 --> 00:38:54,673
And you just
happened to find Katie there.

497
00:38:58,078 --> 00:39:00,812
I brought your daughter
back, man, you know.

498
00:39:00,848 --> 00:39:03,582
Yeah, minus a couple teeth.

499
00:39:14,428 --> 00:39:17,896
Let's just say that I
still have questions.

500
00:39:17,932 --> 00:39:21,033
You learn to live with those.

501
00:39:48,896 --> 00:39:52,497
See you, buddy. I'm out of here.

502
00:39:52,533 --> 00:39:54,866
- All right.
- See you later.

503
00:40:07,915 --> 00:40:09,748
Thanks.

504
00:40:12,119 --> 00:40:13,452
Mike.

505
00:40:18,425 --> 00:40:21,293
"America's child
psychologist saves little girl,"

506
00:40:21,328 --> 00:40:23,562
is that it?

507
00:40:23,597 --> 00:40:26,431
Katie's gonna be okay. Just...

508
00:40:26,467 --> 00:40:28,100
don't let her watch TV.

509
00:40:28,135 --> 00:40:30,936
Spare me, okay? Just
put it in your book.

510
00:40:33,107 --> 00:40:34,306
There is no book.

511
00:40:34,341 --> 00:40:37,109
There never was.

512
00:40:39,113 --> 00:40:41,713
Then what are you doing here?

513
00:40:43,951 --> 00:40:46,752
It's been calling me.

514
00:41:00,501 --> 00:41:01,967
Packing up?

515
00:41:10,210 --> 00:41:13,578
You don't have to leave.

516
00:41:13,614 --> 00:41:16,548
Yeah, yeah, I do.

517
00:41:22,523 --> 00:41:25,924
Out of sight...

518
00:41:25,959 --> 00:41:29,261
out of mind.

519
00:41:29,296 --> 00:41:31,963
Do you remember "Candle Cove"?

520
00:41:31,999 --> 00:41:35,767
Yeah, of course.

521
00:41:35,803 --> 00:41:39,104
After I left, did you ever see it again?

522
00:41:39,139 --> 00:41:41,707
What?

523
00:41:45,379 --> 00:41:48,280
Um, never mind.

524
00:41:48,315 --> 00:41:50,082
Forget I mentioned it.

525
00:41:56,757 --> 00:41:58,623
Who made it up?

526
00:41:58,659 --> 00:42:00,325
Made what up?

527
00:42:00,361 --> 00:42:03,695
I'm talking about the
show we watched, the TV show.

528
00:42:06,166 --> 00:42:08,400
Oh, no, it...

529
00:42:08,435 --> 00:42:11,837
The show I'm talking about wasn't real.

530
00:42:13,741 --> 00:42:17,075
You used to sit, watching the TV...

531
00:42:17,111 --> 00:42:19,044
just watching the static.

532
00:42:28,756 --> 00:42:31,757
It was just in your heads.

533
00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:45,404
Oh, no, Laughingstock.

534
00:42:45,439 --> 00:42:47,539
That's a whale of a storm.

535
00:42:47,574 --> 00:42:49,908
We better find someplace to hide.

536
00:42:49,943 --> 00:42:54,513
Oh, look, it's Bravery Cave.

537
00:42:54,548 --> 00:42:58,917
You have to go inside.

538
00:43:00,053 --> 00:43:02,521
Come inside, Percy.

539
00:43:02,556 --> 00:43:04,022
There's a new friend in there.

540
00:43:04,057 --> 00:43:06,691
And he wants to play a game.

541
00:43:06,727 --> 00:43:09,294
But... I don't know how to play.

542
00:43:09,329 --> 00:43:11,630
He'll show you exactly what to do.

543
00:43:11,665 --> 00:43:12,697
Come on.

544
00:43:12,733 --> 00:43:15,867
I'll hold your hand.

545
00:43:57,544 --> 00:44:00,745
Mike, where are you going?

546
00:44:00,781 --> 00:44:03,748
We're just getting started again.

547
00:44:06,264 --> 00:44:11,597
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