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Best Sellers on Audio presents
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Tales from Briarcliff
by Lana Winters,
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read by the author.
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Chapter six,
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"The Gathering Storm."
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Behind the stone walls
of Briarcliff,
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time had no meaning.
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The days themselves seemed
to exist
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in a kind of perpetual twilight.
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Life there was just a series
of numbing cruelties
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and humiliations,
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all masquerading
as something else.
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You weren't conceived in love,
but in hate.
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I couldn't wait to give you up.
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You're an abomination.
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You should
never have been born.
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I was in the third week
of my confinement,
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and a storm was coming.
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The nor'easter of '64
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that brought
so much devastation with it,
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and for me, something else,
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something far more savage
even than nature.
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Oliver Thredson was,
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to all appearances,
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a kindly figure,
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fatherly in his manner.
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This face he showed the world,
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this face of sanity
and benevolence,
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that was his real mask.
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Underneath lurked
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the real Oliver Thredson,
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an unspeakable monster.
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I loved you even when you were
still in your mother's womb.
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I would have given anything
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to be a real father to you,
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but she kept us apart.
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I had so much love
to give you, son.
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She stole it from you.
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From both of us.
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♪ Here comes the bride. ♪
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Oh, my God.
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The Catholic
Church bought this place
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in '62,
and turned it into a sanitarium
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for the criminally insane.
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Legend has it that once you
were committed at Briarcliff,
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you never got out.
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The most famous resident
was a serial killer named...
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Bloody Face.
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Say Bloody Face.
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Bloody Face.
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Maybe it's Bloody Face.
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Maybe it's just old pipes.
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Let me see.
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What? You scared, pussy?
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Oh, my God! What? What's wrong?
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You're such a prick.
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You are such a prick.
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Speaking of which...
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No. I want to know
what's in there.
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Do it again and I'll blow you.
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Give me your phone.
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www.addic7ed.com
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And who did this drawing of you?
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Bono.
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He was a bit tipsy
on the airplane
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coming back from Somalia
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and drew it
on the cocktail napkin.
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He's quite good, isn't he?
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Be sure and get
an insert of that, Pete.
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So with six bestsellers,
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a reputation as the only one
the men will open up to,
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world leaders, stars,
disgraced politicians,
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who's the one that got away?
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Is there anyone you lusted after
that you missed?
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That's easy:
Mao and Rielle Hunter.
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And she's still lusting
after Julian Assange.
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Uh, look, I know
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I said no on-camera appearances
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for you, but I love
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this whole bringing
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the chardonnay thing,
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super casual, loving.
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What about just that?
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I'm April, by the way.
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Marian.
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What a pleasure.
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I saw your Norma at the Met.
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Transcendent.
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She's doing it in Bologna
this summer.
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Thank you.
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I've got rehearsal;
I've got to take off.
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I'll be back by 5:00.
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We have that Sondheim dinner
birthday thing tonight.
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Mmm.
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Am I not
the luckiest woman alive?
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A little higher, babe.
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Attaboy.
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Mm-mm, higher still.
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Oh, what are they teaching
these kids in film school?
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God knows
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it's not how to make us old gals
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look more gorgeous.
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Nothing old about you, Lana.
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Well, thanks to a very talented
surgeon in Paris
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and a great dermatologist.
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So, what are we covering today?
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Well, since it's
a Kennedy Center honor,
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I'd say
it's a pretty big canvas.
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Jesus, darling, I hope
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this isn't going
to feel like a eulogy.
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I will certainly ask you
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about your notorious
nail-to-the-cross
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prison interview with Madoff.
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But before all that,
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I'd like to go back
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and start with the early years.
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The awful
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Bloody Face saga.
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I said I wouldn't talk
about that.
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People want to hear about it.
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It's what made you famous.
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My point exactly.
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He's become a goddamn
household name.
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Like some kind of Heath Ledger,
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Hollywood movie star villain.
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He was an evil monster
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who used murder and torture
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to keep himself
from feeling like a eunuch.
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End of story.
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I refuse to give him
one more second of air time.
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So then let's start
with the event
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that made your reputation
as a crusader for change,
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the Briarcliff exposé.
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We good to go, everyone? Honey,
hand me that mirror, will you?
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I like to do my own eyebrows.
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How do I look?
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Like a million bucks.
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But they're still not
gonna let us
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in that front door
with a camera.
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Oh, I know how to get in.
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Jesus, how did
you find this place?
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Listen, when we get
inside, no matter what happens,
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or what anybody says,
you keep shooting.
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We need to document
the conditions, the filth,
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these people are forced
to live in.
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I want the footage
to shock the public
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out of their complacency,
you understand?
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I want moral outrage.
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I want to put America
in the asylum.
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The fact that
you would voluntarily
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go back into the place
where you almost died,
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that's why you were held
in such high esteem
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by all of America
and your peers.
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Did you always have
this need for justice?
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That's the myth.
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Lana Winters, crusader.
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It was a story that I helped
to perpetuate,
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but, uh, it's time I come clean.
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It wasn't justice
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that got me back to Briarcliff.
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It was ambition.
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I knew my future
wasn't in print.
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You had an abrupt career change.
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I knew television
was the future.
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So I got started in local news,
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then an NBC affiliate
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before I landed my own series
of investigative reports.
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America Unmasked.
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With TV, words,
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they're less important.
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You need something people
can see,
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visual stimulation,
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and believe me, there is nothing
more stimulating
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than crazy people.
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But you need more than that.
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You need an angle, a hook.
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And boy, did I have a doozy.
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I heard from very reliable
sources that Sister Jude,
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the nun that imprisoned me
at Briarcliff, was still alive.
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In fact, she had become
a patient there herself.
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I was going to go
into that snake pit
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and rescue her
from the very place
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she had me committed.
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Milo, I told you
to keep rolling.
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Get the camera up
and pointed at me.
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At Briarcliff Manor,
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it's not uncommon to see
patients left on their own
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without supervision,
without stimulation,
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for hours on end.
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The squalor, the filth,
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the decay of this institution
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is a shocking indictment
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of the abandonment
of her most needy
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by the state of Massachusetts.
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The Church
sold Briarcliff Manor
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to the state of Massachusetts
in the fall of 1965.
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Since then,
conditions have deteriorated.
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The images and sounds
are far more...
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Ready? You need a slate?
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Are...
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Yeah, are you sleeping?
Come on.
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Three, two, one.
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The church sold
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Briarcliff Manor
to the state of Massachusetts
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in the fall of 1965.
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Since then, conditions
have deteriorated.
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These images and sounds
are far more powerful
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than any words
that can be spoken.
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But how can I
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describe to you
the way it smells?
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It reeks of filth, of disease.
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It smells of death.
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Who are you?
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Do you...
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have permission to do this? You are
the first attendant we've seen
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the entire time
we've been here.
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Is it the policy to
leave patients unclothed
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and unclean, some of them
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smeared in their own feces?
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Uh... I'm sorry, there's...
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just too many for us
to take care of.
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Right now I'm
interested in one.
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I demand to see Judy Martin.
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Give me some light.
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Judy Martin?
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Do you remember me?
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You were committed
to Briarcliff
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to cover up the abuses
the church and science
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had perpetrated
against patients here.
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You were left to die.
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Alone.
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Abandoned.
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I've come back to help you.
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I'm going to get you
out of here, Sister Jude.
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It's okay.
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Lana... Banana.
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Such a powerful
scene you describe.
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I'm embarrassed to say
I don't remember it.
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That's because it
never happened.
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By the time I
got to Briarcliff,
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Jude was gone.
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I should've gone back sooner.
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But you did shut
down Briarcliff.
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Yes, but it's not
the ending I wanted.
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It was one hell of an ending,
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just not the one I wanted.
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And there's your promo.
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Let's take a break.
I need to freshen up.
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Ms. Winters needs a break.
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Five and we're back.
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Would you like
something to drink?
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I'd love a sparkling water.
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Would you get Ms. Winters
a sparkling water, please?
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Thanks.
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You're a doll.
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My pleasure, Ms. Winters.
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♪ I feel the earth move ♪
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♪ Under my feet ♪
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♪ I feel the sky
tumbling down... ♪
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Kit. Holy shit.
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Lana!
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I was just watching the news.
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You did it.
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You really did it.
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You shut down Briarcliff.
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What the hell's this?
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I wanted them to
capture our reunion.
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And I have a few questions
I'd like to ask you.
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Questions? Yes.
270
00:15:15,701 --> 00:15:17,702
Like who's Betty Drake?
271
00:15:17,770 --> 00:15:18,870
And is she here?
272
00:15:23,441 --> 00:15:25,075
I'll talk to you, Lana,
273
00:15:25,143 --> 00:15:26,710
but... but I'm not gonna
talk to your camera.
274
00:15:30,615 --> 00:15:32,482
♪ Tumbling down,
a-tumbling down ♪
275
00:15:32,550 --> 00:15:36,387
♪ A-tumbling down ♪
276
00:15:36,454 --> 00:15:40,391
♪ Tumbling down... ♪
277
00:15:40,459 --> 00:15:43,328
Where'd you find this?
278
00:15:43,396 --> 00:15:44,296
I was still trying
to find Jude.
279
00:15:44,363 --> 00:15:46,031
But of course
280
00:15:46,099 --> 00:15:48,634
Jude hadn't existed for years.
281
00:15:48,701 --> 00:15:50,269
The Monsignor saw to that.
282
00:15:53,506 --> 00:15:54,873
I had no idea
283
00:15:54,941 --> 00:15:57,042
who I was even
looking for anymore.
284
00:16:06,286 --> 00:16:07,420
And then I found this.
285
00:16:10,490 --> 00:16:11,724
Betty Drake,
286
00:16:11,792 --> 00:16:14,260
released to the care
of Kit Walker,
287
00:16:14,328 --> 00:16:15,562
March 27, 1970.
288
00:16:15,629 --> 00:16:16,863
That was just
a few months after
289
00:16:16,931 --> 00:16:18,999
you came to see me
at the book signing.
290
00:16:19,067 --> 00:16:21,501
It's Jude, isn't it?
291
00:16:21,569 --> 00:16:24,538
Why do you care now, Lana?
292
00:16:27,575 --> 00:16:28,743
Hmm?
293
00:16:28,810 --> 00:16:30,144
We all just part of your story?
294
00:16:30,211 --> 00:16:31,578
It's not just my story, Kit.
295
00:16:31,646 --> 00:16:33,180
It's yours, too. And hers.
296
00:16:33,248 --> 00:16:35,049
You went back for her.
297
00:16:36,618 --> 00:16:38,052
Why?
298
00:16:42,124 --> 00:16:43,925
'Cause it was
something I could do.
299
00:16:43,992 --> 00:16:46,594
I mean, I couldn't
shut the place down,
300
00:16:46,662 --> 00:16:48,296
I couldn't lead them all
out of there like Moses.
301
00:16:48,364 --> 00:16:51,066
But, Jude, whatever she was,
302
00:16:51,134 --> 00:16:54,135
she didn't belong there
any more than we did.
303
00:16:55,905 --> 00:16:58,473
I couldn't just
leave her there.
304
00:16:58,541 --> 00:17:02,244
After Alma died, I...
started visiting her there.
305
00:17:07,584 --> 00:17:09,418
At least once a week.
306
00:17:09,486 --> 00:17:11,487
Sometimes twice.
307
00:17:13,023 --> 00:17:14,623
There was still life there.
308
00:17:14,691 --> 00:17:16,826
There was still someone buried
deep inside.
309
00:17:20,464 --> 00:17:22,265
But I knew that life
wouldn't last long
310
00:17:22,333 --> 00:17:24,300
if nobody got her out of there.
311
00:17:30,074 --> 00:17:31,941
They didn't ask
a lot of questions.
312
00:17:32,009 --> 00:17:33,576
Think they were just happy
313
00:17:33,644 --> 00:17:35,678
to have one less patient
to care for.
314
00:17:51,394 --> 00:17:53,195
You brought her into your home.
315
00:17:55,899 --> 00:17:58,201
Why'd you do that?
316
00:17:58,269 --> 00:18:00,770
After all the indignities
she made you suffer?
317
00:18:02,606 --> 00:18:04,574
I didn't do it for her.
318
00:18:04,642 --> 00:18:06,843
I didn't even really
do it for me.
319
00:18:09,780 --> 00:18:12,248
I did it for the kids.
320
00:18:12,316 --> 00:18:15,050
I needed to be there for them.
321
00:18:15,118 --> 00:18:18,153
And the only way I could leave
Briarcliff behind
322
00:18:18,221 --> 00:18:22,024
once and for all was to find
some way to forgive.
323
00:18:22,092 --> 00:18:23,726
Someone to forgive.
324
00:18:27,831 --> 00:18:28,864
Is she dead?
325
00:18:28,932 --> 00:18:30,833
Go on.
326
00:18:32,469 --> 00:18:34,673
The first thing we had to do
327
00:18:34,740 --> 00:18:36,541
was see her through detox.
328
00:19:01,768 --> 00:19:02,968
Carrot juice.
329
00:19:03,036 --> 00:19:04,103
From our garden.
330
00:19:11,078 --> 00:19:13,646
For a while,
331
00:19:13,714 --> 00:19:15,482
things seemed to be going
along pretty well,
332
00:19:15,549 --> 00:19:17,718
considering.
333
00:19:18,887 --> 00:19:20,221
I made a decision to just...
334
00:19:20,289 --> 00:19:21,622
stay the course.
335
00:19:27,362 --> 00:19:29,130
They loved her.
336
00:19:29,198 --> 00:19:30,765
No matter how much
she barked at them,
337
00:19:30,833 --> 00:19:32,300
they always understood
something about her.
338
00:19:32,367 --> 00:19:34,735
So she eventually came around.
339
00:19:34,803 --> 00:19:38,372
Well, it got worse
before it got better.
340
00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,142
Told you to
start in the corner!
341
00:19:41,209 --> 00:19:43,044
Did you think
I wouldn't notice?
342
00:19:43,112 --> 00:19:45,446
- Come back here, you little shit!
- Hey! Hey!
343
00:19:45,514 --> 00:19:47,215
Hey! Hey! I'll cane you!
344
00:19:47,282 --> 00:19:49,249
Hey! This is not Briarcliff,
345
00:19:49,317 --> 00:19:51,118
and you will not hit my kids!
346
00:19:51,186 --> 00:19:52,152
Wait a minute.
347
00:19:52,220 --> 00:19:54,421
What's going on here?
348
00:19:54,489 --> 00:19:57,024
No, we do not have
a children's ward!
349
00:19:57,092 --> 00:19:59,693
I told your mother that.
I was very clear.
350
00:19:59,761 --> 00:20:02,230
I was very clear! Jude!
351
00:20:02,297 --> 00:20:04,065
You will address me
as Sister Jude.
352
00:20:04,133 --> 00:20:05,099
You don't fool me, Kit Walker.
353
00:20:05,167 --> 00:20:07,068
I know who you are.
354
00:20:07,136 --> 00:20:08,903
I know what you did.
355
00:20:08,971 --> 00:20:10,270
Killer of women.
356
00:20:10,338 --> 00:20:11,638
Jude, please...
357
00:20:11,706 --> 00:20:12,872
No, you get away! Get away
358
00:20:12,940 --> 00:20:14,641
from me! I won't go back
359
00:20:14,709 --> 00:20:16,876
in that hole! I will not!
360
00:20:16,944 --> 00:20:18,878
- You can't make me!
- Thomas!
361
00:20:18,946 --> 00:20:22,081
Get your sister and go outside.
362
00:20:22,149 --> 00:20:23,883
I will not! No,
you can't make me!
363
00:20:23,951 --> 00:20:25,652
It's okay, Dad.
364
00:20:30,358 --> 00:20:31,558
Oh, no...
365
00:21:12,532 --> 00:21:14,667
I still don't know what
happened in those woods.
366
00:21:16,837 --> 00:21:20,005
When they came back...
367
00:21:20,073 --> 00:21:22,274
something was different.
368
00:21:22,341 --> 00:21:24,342
Grace was right.
369
00:21:24,410 --> 00:21:26,711
Those children are special.
370
00:21:29,445 --> 00:21:31,145
Okay, I'm gonna
teach you a new step.
371
00:21:31,213 --> 00:21:32,280
Okay. Ready?
372
00:21:32,347 --> 00:21:35,249
Toe, heel, step back.
373
00:21:35,317 --> 00:21:37,885
Toe, heel, step back.
374
00:21:37,953 --> 00:21:39,953
Okay, now, start
again, watch me.
375
00:21:40,021 --> 00:21:41,588
You're left, and I'm right.
376
00:21:41,656 --> 00:21:43,123
Because women are always right.
377
00:21:43,191 --> 00:21:45,458
All right?
378
00:21:45,526 --> 00:21:47,894
Five, six, seven, eight.
379
00:21:47,962 --> 00:21:49,930
♪ You gotta jump, jive
and then you wail ♪
380
00:21:49,997 --> 00:21:52,765
♪ You gotta jump,
jive and then you wail ♪
381
00:21:52,833 --> 00:21:54,366
♪ You gotta jump, jive and
then you wail ♪ All right.
382
00:21:54,434 --> 00:21:55,567
Now spin me.
383
00:21:55,635 --> 00:21:56,835
♪ And then you wail ♪
384
00:21:56,903 --> 00:21:58,403
♪ You wail ♪
385
00:21:58,471 --> 00:22:00,171
♪ Wail... ♪ Whoo!
386
00:22:01,474 --> 00:22:02,574
Ooh!
387
00:22:06,078 --> 00:22:07,345
Don't say I never
taught you nothing.
388
00:22:07,412 --> 00:22:08,746
Daddy, dance with me.
389
00:22:08,814 --> 00:22:10,581
Come over here!
390
00:22:10,649 --> 00:22:13,117
Thomas! Come here.
391
00:22:13,185 --> 00:22:15,219
♪ Papa's in the icebox... ♪
392
00:22:15,287 --> 00:22:16,821
Let me show this to you.
393
00:22:16,889 --> 00:22:19,191
Left foot...
394
00:22:19,258 --> 00:22:23,061
♪ Papa's in the icebox
looking for a can of milk ♪
395
00:22:23,129 --> 00:22:24,863
♪ Mama's in the backyard... ♪
396
00:22:24,931 --> 00:22:28,734
For six months, she taught them
how to swing dance
397
00:22:28,801 --> 00:22:31,403
and swear like a sailor.
398
00:22:31,471 --> 00:22:34,807
Made Thomas learn to sew
399
00:22:34,874 --> 00:22:36,909
and took away Julia's dolls
400
00:22:36,976 --> 00:22:39,144
and gave her trucks
so she'd grow up tough.
401
00:22:40,447 --> 00:22:42,748
I don't know
402
00:22:42,816 --> 00:22:44,950
if those last six
months made up
403
00:22:45,018 --> 00:22:46,953
for a lifetime of horrors...
404
00:22:49,489 --> 00:22:51,657
but she sure seemed happy.
405
00:23:05,438 --> 00:23:07,372
Hey.
406
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,142
Come here.
407
00:23:09,209 --> 00:23:11,878
Come here, you two.
408
00:23:11,945 --> 00:23:14,614
Come here.
409
00:23:14,681 --> 00:23:17,783
I got a few more things
to tell you, okay?
410
00:23:26,293 --> 00:23:27,960
Julia...
411
00:23:31,265 --> 00:23:35,801
don't you ever...
412
00:23:35,869 --> 00:23:40,273
ever let a man
tell you who you are...
413
00:23:40,340 --> 00:23:42,341
or make you feel...
414
00:23:46,113 --> 00:23:48,681
like you are less than he is.
415
00:23:53,454 --> 00:23:55,855
It's 1971.
416
00:23:55,923 --> 00:23:58,992
And you can do anything
you want.
417
00:24:00,728 --> 00:24:03,162
Okay? You understand?
418
00:24:05,332 --> 00:24:08,803
And, Thomas...
419
00:24:08,870 --> 00:24:11,839
don't pick your nose...
420
00:24:11,907 --> 00:24:16,078
and never take a job
just for the money.
421
00:24:22,453 --> 00:24:25,922
Find something...
422
00:24:25,989 --> 00:24:29,058
that you love.
423
00:24:29,125 --> 00:24:32,828
Do something you want.
424
00:24:34,397 --> 00:24:35,898
Okay, boy?
425
00:24:51,716 --> 00:24:55,519
Oh, I don't need that.
426
00:24:55,587 --> 00:24:58,089
It's mushroom barley.
427
00:24:58,156 --> 00:24:59,524
You got to eat something.
428
00:24:59,591 --> 00:25:03,294
No, I don't.
429
00:25:09,334 --> 00:25:12,670
Kids, why don't you go pile up
the leaves in the yard?
430
00:25:12,738 --> 00:25:15,707
I'm staying with Nana.
431
00:25:18,244 --> 00:25:23,748
No, you guys, you should
go outside and play.
432
00:25:23,816 --> 00:25:25,650
Go on.
433
00:25:38,069 --> 00:25:40,403
Kit Walker...
434
00:25:40,471 --> 00:25:43,674
you're a lucky man.
435
00:25:45,911 --> 00:25:48,078
You better not screw them up.
436
00:26:00,292 --> 00:26:02,827
I'm here.
437
00:26:02,895 --> 00:26:06,031
I'm not going to leave
you alone.
438
00:26:06,098 --> 00:26:08,466
I'm not... I'm not alone.
439
00:26:12,138 --> 00:26:14,272
She's here for me.
440
00:26:27,653 --> 00:26:30,388
I don't know who
she was talking about.
441
00:26:40,132 --> 00:26:41,833
I do.
442
00:26:50,539 --> 00:26:52,271
Jude...
443
00:26:52,339 --> 00:26:56,306
we've been doing this dance
for so many years.
444
00:26:56,374 --> 00:26:59,375
Are you sure
you're ready this time?
445
00:27:00,711 --> 00:27:03,045
I'm sure.
446
00:27:05,282 --> 00:27:07,416
I'm ready now.
447
00:27:13,423 --> 00:27:15,324
Kiss me.
448
00:28:07,999 --> 00:28:09,967
I have a feeling we're about
449
00:28:10,035 --> 00:28:12,303
to enter the hard-hitting part
of the interview.
450
00:28:12,370 --> 00:28:14,605
It was the pen, wasn't it?
451
00:28:14,673 --> 00:28:16,908
No need to take notes
on powder-puff questions.
452
00:28:16,975 --> 00:28:19,577
You got me,
but I'm gonna ask anyway.
453
00:28:20,614 --> 00:28:21,814
If shutting down Briarcliff
454
00:28:21,882 --> 00:28:23,782
was such an undeniable success,
455
00:28:23,850 --> 00:28:26,419
your next exposé was,
to put it mildly,
456
00:28:26,486 --> 00:28:27,987
controversial.
457
00:28:28,054 --> 00:28:30,422
I think half of New York
wanted to lynch me,
458
00:28:30,490 --> 00:28:33,226
and the other half would have
had me banned from the state.
459
00:28:33,293 --> 00:28:35,294
Can we talk about what happened
with Cardinal Howard?
460
00:28:35,362 --> 00:28:37,330
At the time,
he was a powerhouse,
461
00:28:37,398 --> 00:28:39,599
a rising star in the church.
462
00:28:39,667 --> 00:28:41,935
The man had avoided
me for weeks.
463
00:28:42,003 --> 00:28:44,604
I went through all
the official channels,
464
00:28:44,672 --> 00:28:47,040
but he ignored every request
I made for an interview.
465
00:28:47,108 --> 00:28:50,044
So, finally, I cornered him
on his way to Easter Mass.
466
00:28:50,111 --> 00:28:51,578
Cardinal Howard.
467
00:28:51,646 --> 00:28:53,847
I have nothing to say
to you, Miss Winters.
468
00:28:53,915 --> 00:28:56,117
With or without your comments,
I'm airing a report
469
00:28:56,185 --> 00:28:57,652
tomorrow night
on Dr. Arthur Arden,
470
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,721
a man you hired to run
the medical unit at Briarcliff.
471
00:28:59,789 --> 00:29:01,189
We finally gained access
to his files.
472
00:29:01,257 --> 00:29:03,392
Did you know he was
conducting human experiments?
473
00:29:03,459 --> 00:29:06,261
We found some
very disturbing evidence.
474
00:29:06,329 --> 00:29:08,564
Cardinal... Would you mind
switching that off, please?
475
00:29:08,631 --> 00:29:10,900
A number of patients
disappeared under his care.
476
00:29:10,967 --> 00:29:12,868
Do you have any idea
what happened to them?
477
00:29:12,936 --> 00:29:14,103
It was over seven years ago.
478
00:29:14,170 --> 00:29:15,671
You can't expect me to remember
479
00:29:15,739 --> 00:29:17,740
anything about patients
I wasn't responsible for.
480
00:29:17,808 --> 00:29:19,442
I'm afraid you are responsible.
481
00:29:19,509 --> 00:29:20,743
Everything that happened
at Briarcliff
482
00:29:20,811 --> 00:29:22,012
happened under your authority.
483
00:29:22,079 --> 00:29:23,613
And there is no
statute of limitations
484
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,081
on murder, Cardinal Howard.
485
00:29:25,148 --> 00:29:26,649
The police have found remains,
486
00:29:26,716 --> 00:29:28,984
human bones in the woods
outside Briarcliff.
487
00:29:29,052 --> 00:29:31,387
They're going to start
asking hard questions.
488
00:29:31,454 --> 00:29:33,022
And since the notorious
Dr. Arden has disappeared,
489
00:29:33,090 --> 00:29:34,557
they're going to be looking
to you for answers.
490
00:29:34,625 --> 00:29:36,092
Get out of my way.
491
00:29:36,159 --> 00:29:37,259
What are you running from,
Cardinal Howard?
492
00:29:37,327 --> 00:29:39,294
Out of the way, Miss Winters!
493
00:29:39,362 --> 00:29:40,863
What are you running from?
Happy Easter.
494
00:29:40,931 --> 00:29:41,831
Answer the question.
495
00:29:45,736 --> 00:29:47,670
To this day, people still
496
00:29:47,738 --> 00:29:49,940
blame you for what
happened to him.
497
00:29:50,007 --> 00:29:52,643
I've got broad shoulders,
but I can't take credit
498
00:29:52,711 --> 00:29:54,478
for what his guilty conscience
made him do.
499
00:30:03,254 --> 00:30:07,090
That man was a particular kind
of liar,
500
00:30:07,158 --> 00:30:11,128
the kind who lies to himself
about being a liar.
501
00:30:11,195 --> 00:30:15,666
He was so corrupt and deluded,
he believed his own lies.
502
00:30:15,734 --> 00:30:19,904
Lies are like scars
on your soul.
503
00:30:19,972 --> 00:30:23,442
They destroy you.
504
00:30:25,378 --> 00:30:27,513
I have a feeling
we're not just talking
505
00:30:27,580 --> 00:30:28,847
about Cardinal Howard anymore.
506
00:30:30,149 --> 00:30:31,583
Is there something
507
00:30:31,651 --> 00:30:33,185
you'd like to share with us?
508
00:30:35,188 --> 00:30:36,922
I'm going to come clean
about a lie
509
00:30:36,990 --> 00:30:39,392
I've told for over 40 years.
510
00:30:39,459 --> 00:30:41,594
In my book Maniac,
511
00:30:41,661 --> 00:30:44,463
I write about the abuse,
512
00:30:44,531 --> 00:30:46,999
the rape, the pregnancy.
513
00:30:47,067 --> 00:30:50,903
I say that the baby
died in childbirth.
514
00:30:50,971 --> 00:30:55,674
I even wrote about
a kind of poetic justice
515
00:30:55,742 --> 00:30:59,011
that the child hadn't lived.
516
00:30:59,079 --> 00:31:02,715
That child is alive.
517
00:31:02,783 --> 00:31:07,387
I didn't raise him,
but someone did.
518
00:31:14,062 --> 00:31:15,862
Don't ask me to do that again.
519
00:31:17,999 --> 00:31:20,667
He'll need to learn
how to live without me.
520
00:31:23,037 --> 00:31:26,840
I just prayed really hard
521
00:31:26,908 --> 00:31:28,775
that somebody else
could give him
522
00:31:28,843 --> 00:31:30,811
the kind of mothering he'd need.
523
00:31:30,878 --> 00:31:32,813
I couldn't muster it.
524
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,582
I tried, but I couldn't.
525
00:31:35,650 --> 00:31:37,284
That's quite a secret, Lana.
526
00:31:37,352 --> 00:31:39,686
The only person
I've told is Marian.
527
00:31:39,754 --> 00:31:41,355
Do you mind if I ask,
528
00:31:41,422 --> 00:31:43,624
has there been
any contact since?
529
00:31:43,692 --> 00:31:47,228
There was a period in the
mid-'70s where I suffered
530
00:31:47,296 --> 00:31:50,798
a terrible remorse
about giving him up.
531
00:31:50,866 --> 00:31:54,568
I used all my skills
as a sleuth,
532
00:31:54,636 --> 00:31:57,371
which are myriad as we know,
to track him down.
533
00:31:57,438 --> 00:32:00,940
I just needed to see him.
I didn't have a plan.
534
00:32:01,008 --> 00:32:03,776
What you got in here?
You like dinosaurs?
535
00:32:03,844 --> 00:32:05,945
You want to suck
a brontosaurus dick?
536
00:32:06,013 --> 00:32:07,580
Shut up, asshole!
537
00:32:07,648 --> 00:32:08,915
Who are you calling asshole,
faggot?
538
00:32:11,052 --> 00:32:14,020
Hey, you, you little shit.
You back off before I hurt you
539
00:32:14,088 --> 00:32:15,589
in ways you haven't
even dreamt of.
540
00:32:23,731 --> 00:32:25,366
Are you all right?
541
00:32:25,433 --> 00:32:26,333
Yeah, I'm fine.
542
00:32:33,842 --> 00:32:36,009
You know he's
the asshole, right?
543
00:32:36,077 --> 00:32:37,177
Yeah, I know.
544
00:32:57,599 --> 00:32:59,366
You should report him.
545
00:33:03,472 --> 00:33:05,439
That was the last time
I saw him.
546
00:33:05,507 --> 00:33:08,842
I wasn't his mother.
547
00:33:08,910 --> 00:33:11,512
Not in any meaningful way.
548
00:33:11,580 --> 00:33:15,149
I would only confuse him.
549
00:33:15,217 --> 00:33:19,020
But I thought
about him so often.
550
00:33:19,087 --> 00:33:21,422
Wondering where he was.
551
00:33:21,489 --> 00:33:23,591
How he turned out.
552
00:33:23,659 --> 00:33:27,929
Did you ever think about
having children after that?
553
00:33:27,997 --> 00:33:32,801
It was a different time
for gay women.
554
00:33:32,869 --> 00:33:36,539
Most of us were resigned
to not having children.
555
00:33:36,607 --> 00:33:39,375
But I was close
to my friends' children.
556
00:33:39,443 --> 00:33:42,778
In fact, Kit... Kit Walker...
557
00:33:42,846 --> 00:33:47,417
he asked me to be
godmother to his kids.
558
00:33:47,485 --> 00:33:51,254
Kit got married again.
559
00:33:51,322 --> 00:33:53,289
He met a great girl named
Allison down at the co-op.
560
00:33:53,357 --> 00:33:56,426
I don't know who loved her
more... Kit or those kids.
561
00:34:21,713 --> 00:34:25,815
Kit always believed the kids
were destined for great things.
562
00:34:25,883 --> 00:34:29,986
They grew up with that message,
and they lived up to it.
563
00:34:30,054 --> 00:34:32,589
Thomas is a law professor
at Harvard.
564
00:34:32,656 --> 00:34:36,925
Julie is a leading neurosurgeon
at Johns Hopkins.
565
00:34:36,993 --> 00:34:39,627
Kit would be so proud of them.
566
00:34:39,695 --> 00:34:42,729
Is he no longer with us?
567
00:34:42,797 --> 00:34:46,199
When he was around 40, he
developed pancreatic cancer.
568
00:34:46,267 --> 00:34:49,202
By the time they found it,
569
00:34:49,269 --> 00:34:52,571
the tumor had metastasized
to the liver.
570
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:55,874
They gave him chemo, but...
571
00:34:55,942 --> 00:34:58,810
it was just a waiting game.
572
00:34:58,877 --> 00:35:02,146
The kids both offered
to look after him,
573
00:35:02,213 --> 00:35:05,549
but he wouldn't hear of it.
574
00:35:07,851 --> 00:35:10,686
In those last months,
he seemed more peaceful
575
00:35:10,754 --> 00:35:13,055
than I'd ever seen him.
576
00:35:13,123 --> 00:35:14,890
And then the strangest
thing happened.
577
00:35:14,957 --> 00:35:18,459
He disappeared.
578
00:35:18,527 --> 00:35:19,927
I don't understand.
579
00:35:19,995 --> 00:35:21,895
No one did.
580
00:35:21,963 --> 00:35:25,299
And no one could explain
exactly what happened.
581
00:35:45,819 --> 00:35:49,989
No note, no tracks, no clues.
582
00:35:50,057 --> 00:35:52,257
And no funeral.
583
00:35:52,325 --> 00:35:56,061
Kit's children insisted
there was no reason to mourn.
584
00:35:56,128 --> 00:35:59,297
Ms. Winters, I can't
tell you what an honor
585
00:35:59,364 --> 00:36:00,364
this has been for me.
586
00:36:00,432 --> 00:36:01,732
Oh, try not to, darling.
587
00:36:01,799 --> 00:36:03,132
I just hope you got
what you need.
588
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,467
Are you kidding?
I thought we'd just
589
00:36:04,534 --> 00:36:05,968
be doing your greatest hits,
590
00:36:06,035 --> 00:36:07,869
but all the personal stuff...
591
00:36:07,937 --> 00:36:10,937
fantastic, unexpected
and very moving.
592
00:36:11,005 --> 00:36:13,439
See you at the Kennedy Center.
Mm-hmm.
593
00:36:43,466 --> 00:36:47,402
Can I pour you a drink?
594
00:36:47,470 --> 00:36:51,072
Why don't you come out now?
595
00:36:51,140 --> 00:36:53,936
You don't need to hide.
596
00:36:54,004 --> 00:36:57,706
Not anymore.
597
00:37:09,330 --> 00:37:11,363
Let's get this
over with, shall we?
598
00:37:22,024 --> 00:37:25,359
So I guess you've had
a pretty great life, huh?
599
00:37:25,427 --> 00:37:27,929
It's been eventful.
600
00:37:27,996 --> 00:37:29,664
It's about to end.
601
00:37:32,201 --> 00:37:33,401
You get that, right?
602
00:37:33,469 --> 00:37:35,970
I knew it the moment I saw you.
603
00:37:37,339 --> 00:37:39,741
Mind if I ask you something?
604
00:37:39,809 --> 00:37:40,875
No.
605
00:37:40,943 --> 00:37:43,311
I don't mind.
606
00:37:43,379 --> 00:37:47,482
How did you manage
to get yourself on the crew?
607
00:37:49,485 --> 00:37:51,152
That shit was easy.
608
00:37:51,220 --> 00:37:53,754
I've been waiting
outside the building,
609
00:37:53,822 --> 00:37:56,757
got friendly with the doorman,
he told me about the interview.
610
00:37:56,825 --> 00:37:59,593
When the first guy showed up
611
00:37:59,661 --> 00:38:02,462
at dawn... the guy
with the doughnuts...
612
00:38:02,529 --> 00:38:04,631
I cut his throat.
613
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,134
He's in the trash bin.
614
00:38:11,939 --> 00:38:14,007
This isn't how I pictured it.
Really?
615
00:38:14,075 --> 00:38:17,744
Because this is exactly
how I pictured it.
616
00:38:21,015 --> 00:38:23,249
I always knew
this day would come.
617
00:38:26,611 --> 00:38:28,346
I didn't think
you'd recognize me.
618
00:38:29,191 --> 00:38:30,725
How did you?
619
00:38:30,793 --> 00:38:33,061
Oh, Johnny.
620
00:38:33,129 --> 00:38:36,164
How could I not recognize
my own baby boy?
621
00:38:36,232 --> 00:38:38,600
I've never seen him before
622
00:38:38,668 --> 00:38:40,335
in my life.
623
00:38:40,403 --> 00:38:42,871
His name's Johnny Morgan.
624
00:38:42,939 --> 00:38:45,073
48 years old, unmarried.
625
00:38:45,141 --> 00:38:46,942
In and out of jail
since his teens.
626
00:38:47,009 --> 00:38:48,577
Nothing major till now.
627
00:38:48,644 --> 00:38:50,345
We think he's responsible
for the deaths
628
00:38:50,412 --> 00:38:51,979
of at least five people.
629
00:38:52,047 --> 00:38:53,882
Including the elderly
couple who lived
630
00:38:53,949 --> 00:38:56,918
in the house formerly owned
by Oliver Thredson.
631
00:38:56,986 --> 00:38:58,620
The place you were
held at and tortured
632
00:38:58,688 --> 00:39:00,855
in '64, Ms. Winters.
633
00:39:00,923 --> 00:39:02,624
Are you sure
you don't recognize him?
634
00:39:02,692 --> 00:39:04,059
No.
635
00:39:14,671 --> 00:39:17,440
You look like him, you know?
636
00:39:17,508 --> 00:39:19,008
Your father.
637
00:39:19,076 --> 00:39:20,309
It's easy for me to forget
638
00:39:20,377 --> 00:39:22,178
just how handsome he was.
639
00:39:22,246 --> 00:39:25,948
Until you shot him in the head.
640
00:39:26,016 --> 00:39:27,817
Yes, I shot him in the head.
641
00:39:27,885 --> 00:39:30,353
How did you find out?
642
00:39:30,420 --> 00:39:32,355
That you murdered my father?
643
00:39:32,423 --> 00:39:33,623
About who you were.
644
00:39:35,259 --> 00:39:36,960
Who told you?
645
00:39:38,729 --> 00:39:39,996
You did.
646
00:39:40,063 --> 00:39:42,265
That day
647
00:39:42,333 --> 00:39:43,500
on the playground.
648
00:39:43,567 --> 00:39:47,370
I felt something.
649
00:39:47,438 --> 00:39:50,273
And I saw you on the TV.
650
00:39:50,341 --> 00:39:53,476
"That's my mother,"
I'd tell people.
651
00:39:53,544 --> 00:39:56,246
And they'd just laugh
at me, but I knew.
652
00:39:59,551 --> 00:40:02,820
And I dreamed one day
that you'd come back.
653
00:40:02,888 --> 00:40:04,822
Then I heard the tape,
654
00:40:04,890 --> 00:40:08,493
and, uh...
I knew you never would.
655
00:40:10,263 --> 00:40:11,897
What tape?
656
00:40:11,965 --> 00:40:14,833
I found it on eBay.
657
00:40:14,901 --> 00:40:17,370
This monster you
planted inside me,
658
00:40:17,437 --> 00:40:19,638
I'm getting rid of it,
and since I'm stuck here,
659
00:40:19,706 --> 00:40:21,874
I'm gonna have to get creative
with this coat hanger.
660
00:40:21,941 --> 00:40:24,410
Lana, no. Lana, no, please!
661
00:40:24,477 --> 00:40:26,311
No baby should have to grow up
662
00:40:26,379 --> 00:40:27,746
knowing Daddy is Bloody Face.
663
00:40:27,813 --> 00:40:30,949
My father loved me.
664
00:40:31,017 --> 00:40:34,019
I could hear it in his voice.
665
00:40:34,087 --> 00:40:35,520
That's when
I started loving him.
666
00:40:35,588 --> 00:40:36,822
And hating you.
667
00:40:39,693 --> 00:40:41,293
He never loved you, Johnny.
668
00:40:41,361 --> 00:40:42,294
And you did?
669
00:40:42,362 --> 00:40:44,463
No, I didn't love you.
670
00:40:44,531 --> 00:40:46,665
I couldn't.
671
00:40:46,733 --> 00:40:48,834
That's why I gave you up...
672
00:40:48,902 --> 00:40:51,336
so you'd have
some shot at a life.
673
00:40:51,404 --> 00:40:52,738
You'd have a chance
at a life, you mean!
674
00:40:52,806 --> 00:40:53,806
Right?
675
00:40:53,873 --> 00:40:55,140
This fancy life!
676
00:40:55,208 --> 00:40:56,809
Without me!
677
00:41:13,061 --> 00:41:15,863
So what's it
going to be, Johnny?
678
00:41:15,930 --> 00:41:17,631
I don't imagine, at my age,
679
00:41:17,698 --> 00:41:19,366
you'd be much interested
in the skin.
680
00:41:24,438 --> 00:41:27,073
I've thought about this.
681
00:41:29,010 --> 00:41:30,577
I've thought about this a lot.
682
00:41:34,248 --> 00:41:37,317
My own gun...
I wasn't expecting that.
683
00:41:37,385 --> 00:41:40,586
Your father once told me
he didn't believe in guns.
684
00:41:40,654 --> 00:41:43,957
Of course, he was
lying about that, too.
685
00:41:44,024 --> 00:41:46,869
You don't get to talk about him.
686
00:41:46,994 --> 00:41:48,128
What are you
so afraid of, Johnny?
687
00:41:48,196 --> 00:41:50,030
The truth about him
688
00:41:50,098 --> 00:41:51,932
or the truth about you?
689
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:57,104
I just want him
to be proud of me.
690
00:42:00,442 --> 00:42:01,876
I...
691
00:42:01,944 --> 00:42:05,647
I can't measure up.
692
00:42:05,715 --> 00:42:06,648
No...
693
00:42:06,716 --> 00:42:07,882
Johnny.
694
00:42:07,950 --> 00:42:10,585
He was a monster.
695
00:42:10,653 --> 00:42:11,986
No. Yes, he was.
696
00:42:12,054 --> 00:42:13,054
No, he wasn't.
697
00:42:13,122 --> 00:42:14,055
Yes he was, baby.
698
00:42:17,059 --> 00:42:18,392
But that's not you.
699
00:42:19,928 --> 00:42:21,395
You could never be like him.
700
00:42:24,599 --> 00:42:27,835
Not that...
701
00:42:27,902 --> 00:42:30,004
sweet little boy
702
00:42:30,071 --> 00:42:32,339
I met on the playground.
703
00:42:35,943 --> 00:42:38,878
Even then, I knew
704
00:42:38,946 --> 00:42:40,946
you were a better man
than he was.
705
00:42:49,790 --> 00:42:51,958
Don't.
706
00:42:59,367 --> 00:43:02,035
It's not just him
that's in you.
707
00:43:04,806 --> 00:43:06,874
I'm a part of you, too.
708
00:43:16,184 --> 00:43:18,452
I've hurt people.
709
00:43:22,558 --> 00:43:25,326
It's not your fault, baby.
710
00:43:29,399 --> 00:43:30,399
It's mine.
711
00:43:45,642 --> 00:43:49,011
She's talking about
the maniac, Bloody Face.
712
00:43:49,079 --> 00:43:50,245
That he's going to be
admitted here today.
713
00:43:50,313 --> 00:43:51,313
Is there any way
I could meet him?
714
00:43:51,381 --> 00:43:53,282
You're out of your depth,
715
00:43:53,349 --> 00:43:55,150
Miss Lana Banana.
716
00:43:55,217 --> 00:43:57,351
You want a story?
Write this down.
717
00:43:59,187 --> 00:44:01,822
A girl like you,
you like to dream large.
718
00:44:01,890 --> 00:44:04,458
I'd venture you
already have Briarcliff
719
00:44:04,525 --> 00:44:06,460
in your rearview mirror.
720
00:44:06,527 --> 00:44:08,728
You make ambition
sound like a sin.
721
00:44:08,796 --> 00:44:11,831
No, I'm saying it's dangerous.
722
00:44:11,899 --> 00:44:13,600
What about you?
723
00:44:13,667 --> 00:44:16,102
Saving the souls of
madmen and killers
724
00:44:16,169 --> 00:44:18,304
is a pretty lofty ambition,
wouldn't you say?
725
00:44:18,372 --> 00:44:21,174
And you cannot imagine
what it took to get here.
726
00:44:21,241 --> 00:44:23,176
I'd love to hear
your story someday.
727
00:44:23,243 --> 00:44:25,011
No.
728
00:44:25,079 --> 00:44:28,247
I don't think you and I are
destined to meet again.
729
00:44:28,315 --> 00:44:31,117
But I do hope you know
what you're in for.
730
00:44:31,185 --> 00:44:33,253
The loneliness,
731
00:44:33,321 --> 00:44:35,155
the heartbreak,
732
00:44:35,223 --> 00:44:36,857
the sacrifice you'll face
as a woman
733
00:44:36,924 --> 00:44:38,525
with a dream on her own.
734
00:44:40,627 --> 00:44:42,829
You don't have any idea
what I'm capable of.
735
00:44:42,896 --> 00:44:46,166
Well, then.
736
00:44:46,233 --> 00:44:48,735
Look at you, Miss Lana Banana.
737
00:44:50,037 --> 00:44:51,715
Just remember...
738
00:44:53,407 --> 00:44:56,676
if you look in
the face of evil.
739
00:44:56,743 --> 00:44:59,078
Evil's going to look
right back at you.
740
00:45:04,450 --> 00:45:07,719
Please, after you.
741
00:45:39,650 --> 00:45:44,666
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